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Online! The Book

honestpuck writes "Titling a volume 'Online! The Book' and putting "The perfect gift for any computer user!" amongst other hyperbole on the back cover must rank as this years greatest act of hubris." Honestpuck has a strong opinion of whether this hubris is justified or insane -- read on below for his review. Online! The Book author John C. Dvorak and Chris Pirillo (with Wendy Taylor) pages 701 publisher Prentice Hall PTR rating 3 reviewer Tony Williams ISBN 0131423630 summary Padding, information and errors all in the one volume. Could be worse, but not by much.

If only John C. Dvorak and Chris Pirillo (with Wendy Taylor) had been able to deliver. If only they had not strewn the book with error, verbiage and irrelavancy. Ah, well.

This volume in its 700 pages (divided into 28 chapters) tries to cover everything from hardware basics to voice over IP, in between touching on e-commerce, security, web programming, networking, content management and business websites, to name just six of the topics perhaps each better suited to a volume of their own.

This book skims, and skims fast, over a number of important and vital topics while dwelling on others that many will find useless. Chris Pirillo seems to be an expert on marketing, so that gets thirty pages, while web programming languages get ten. We get forty pages of 'Hardware Basics,' which cover information vital to getting online such as operating systems, varieties of Intel chips, video cards and gaming audio drivers. I know that if I wanted to find the perfect spot to put breakout boxes about Babbage and von Neumann (essential to any book about getting online) I'd put them in the chapter on viruses. It seems as if the three authors said "we're contracted to seven hundred pages so let's just throw in topics we know a lot about until we get to seven hundred pages -- then stop."

Then there are the errors. We get editing errors like the text that tells us a 'geostationary satellite' orbits at 'about 22,300 miles,' next to a diagram showing the number 20,300 miles. We get errors in logic like the breakout box that has "DNS servers may run Apache, which is an open source Web server program" and goes on to imply that all DNS servers will run a web server. We get errors in grammar. We get paragraphs like "Although there are dynamic Web page URLs (meaning they change, or at least part of it does), most are static (stay the same). These can be dynamic by use of a programming error or dynamic because someone named the URL extension without adding a link elsewhere on the web site." With sentence construction like that I'm still not sure if the claim intended is true or not.

Did I like anything about this book? Sure, the chapter on 'How A Modem (Really) Works' was full of good solid information. Other chapters were similar, particularly the two following on networking and handhelds, phones and PDAs. Others did contain some good information, just surrounded by dross.

You can go to the book's website, which is basically just a single page with yet more hyperbole ("Everything is here. Well-written. Comprehensive.") or visit the Prentice Hall page, which actually gives you a table of contents and a sample chapter. Just don't go straight to the Prentice Hall PTR home page and search for books with "Online" in the title, as that won't find it. Instead search for books with "Book" in the title.

I'd only recommend this book to those who want to spend a lot of time finding the good bits, a few minutes chuckling over some of the errors, and thirty dollars on a paperweight. If you're really looking for a 'perfect gift' for people new new to the net, then find something cheaper covering just the essentials, and for those more expert, find a volume that actually covers a topic of interest well.

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  1. duh by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...and putting "The perfect gift for any computer user!"

    Gee, and it's just out in time for Christmas. What a coincidence. No wonder they didn't have time to get their facts straight, December was coming.

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    1. Re:duh by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

      "The perfect gift for any computer user!" points obviously to "A new computer".

      This should be a "Perfect gift for people who read computer books".

  2. What were you expecting? by belgar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's Dvorak we're talking about here. The guy's too busy writing his Trolltech columns to actually learn anything new. I mean, thanks for explaining how a modem (really) works, guys. The 90's called -- they want their chapter back.

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    1. Re:What were you expecting? by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have a wonderful book by Reader's Digest (go figure)that explains how an automobile works better than any popular book on the subject I have ever seen.

      Should I continue to recommend it or send a note to Reader's Digest that the 1890s called and want their book back?

      KFG

    2. Re:What were you expecting? by decepty · · Score: 2, Informative
      Actually, the "blank called, they want their blankety-blank" is thoroughly covered in "Rapier Wit: A Guide to Sarcasm & Other Forms of Negative Reenforcement" By Sean Crespo (of National Lampoon). Take this excerpt:

      STRUCTURE #2
      Hey, ----- called, it wants its ----- back.

      Many people seem to be out of touch with what is really going on out there - not you, of course - so it's sometimes helpful to wake them up. For example, if you were to pay witness to another human being, fully sentient, no concern over his possibly being descended from a race of man-ape hybrids, not just wearing but in fact showing off a new set of bell-bottom corduroy trousers, a loud pastel shirt unbuttoned down to the navel, and anything resembling platform shoes, it is your god-given right, nay, duty, to inform that person "Hey, the Smithsonian Museum of American History called, they want their Studio 54 exhibit back."


      You can read the full article here.
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    3. Re:What were you expecting? by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I was using modems before Prodigy, GEnie and their ilk existed. I could still hack AT codes if I had to.

      The fact that one no longer necessarily (although occasion can still crop up)has to understand how a modem works sometimes people just like to know how things work. See the popularity of How Things Work in print and on the web.

      Criticizing a book for explaining how things work is just gratuitous anti-intellectualism. People who couldn't care less can skip it and those that do have it available to them.

      If it comes to that most people don't have any real reason to know how their car works either, and most of them don't.

      KFG

  3. If wishes were fishes ... by Rudisaurus · · Score: 3, Funny
    If only John C. Dvorak and Chris Pirillo (with Wendy Taylor) had been able to deliver. If only they had not strewn the book with error, verbiage and irrelavancy.
    If only I had run a spell-checker before posting ... (it's irrelevancy).
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  4. I think I'll wait.... by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I'll wait for the movie adaptation of the book.

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    1. Re:I think I'll wait.... by schnablebg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Online! The movie.

      "I saw the shit out of it!"

    2. Re:I think I'll wait.... by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think I'll wait for the movie adaptation of the book.
      Personally, I'm looking forward to the promotional website for the movie.
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    3. Re:I think I'll wait.... by hesiod · · Score: 2, Funny

      > > I think I'll wait for the movie adaptation of the book.
      > Personally, I'm looking forward to the promotional website for the movie.

      Personally, I (for one) welcome our online.. promotional.... website? Wait, this is the wrong joke! (Isn't it always, though?)

  5. Say what you want about Dvorak... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    but I really love his keyboards.

    1. Re:Say what you want about Dvorak... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2, Funny
      and his New World Symphony

      Actually someone else wrote it, but he came up with a new arrangement.

  6. Table of Contents by MagicDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    If every chapter has information about the internet and technology, I guess the table of contents sould be titled "Slashdot" :)

  7. God.... by Kirk+Troll · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I first saw it, I thought it was some attempt to be a hard copy of the internet.

    *remembers Dilbert boss joke.*

    Heh heh...

    1. Re:God.... by Chalybeous · · Score: 3, Funny

      Reminds me about a joke about computer-illiterate people that started doing the rounds when British libraries began to introduce cheap (later free) internet access:

      Customer: Excuse me, do you have the Internet here?
      Librarian: Yes, sir - the computer suite is over there, I'll be along to help you in a moment.
      Customer: Oh, I didn't want to use a computer. Do you have it in book form?
      Sounds rather like it could be a PHB or BOFH situation here... lusers, anyone?
      (Then again, for several years you've been able to get a map of the internet...)

      What's next - Online! - The Rock Opera, written by Pete Townshend and Bill Gates?

      Ever since I was a young boy, I've been a techie geek,
      From dial-up BBSs, to broadband fast and sleek,
      Downloading Linux .isos, md5sums and all,
      Though I find books for dummies, a real-pain-in-the-b@lls...

      (Sung to the tune of "Pinball Wizard")
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  8. Mel Brooks, eat your heart out... by shadowcabbit · · Score: 5, Funny

    Merchandising, merchandising! Online! The Book, Online! The Movie, Online! The Breakfast Cereal... Online! The Flamethrower! (The kids love that one.)

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    1. Re:Mel Brooks, eat your heart out... by GoofyBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Web Site, Online!

      Email, Online!

      pr0n, Online!

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  9. Look! The rating is a 3! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    A 3? I think the Slashdot Universe is going to implode! Run for your lives!!!

    1. Re:Look! The rating is a 3! by dmorin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look closer, it's really the 8 that they've just used so much some of the pixels are starting to fall off.

  10. Why only computer books? by Felonius+Thunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Junk, all in one books like this have always been quite common. It seems that computers have been around long enough that even the completely uninitiated know that computing is reasonably complicated. Do they try to sell "the only book you'll ever need" style books for business? Construction? Medicine? Maybe they don't feel there are quite enough fearful dupes to be had in those topics.

  11. Hardly Suprising by JSkills · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It doesn't surprise me at all that this is light on any real technical details. John C. Dvorak, although obviously a pretty astute individual, has been part of PC Magazine or some other end-user (i.e. barely technical) related publication for quite some time. Although I have found some of his positions on technical and business ethics of interest, his technically oriented editorial contributions have typically been geared for the person who is just getting into understanding a PC, certainly not people in the /. community.

  12. Great!! by Cap'nMike · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I don't have to keep paying those damn ISP fees every month. I can just buy the book. What? You mean they haven't just printed out the internet? Crap!

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  13. this book is too long... by Savatte · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll just wait for Online for Dummies.

  14. The sequels are even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Coming soon from PTR:

    Offline! Tales of slashdotting

    Spelling! Secrets of the Slashdot editors

  15. Speaking of hubris; try THIS on for size: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "news for nerds, stuff that matters"

  16. Time warp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    1999 called, they want their book back.

    1. Re:Time warp? by Fjord · · Score: 2, Funny

      while they are on the line, can they take that joke back, too?

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  17. Destined to be... by ii-v-i-head · · Score: 5, Funny

    On sale for $2.99 by mid March 2004

    1. Re:Destined to be... by Patrick · · Score: 3, Funny
      On sale for $2.99 by mid March 2004

      $2.99? I got Bill Gates's "The Road Ahead" in a 50-cents bin. Are you telling me "Online!" is worth nearly six times as much as BillG's 1995-era visions of the future?

      Well, OK, maybe.

  18. This is the same Dvorak... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... who's been predicting the imminent death of Apple for 20+ years.

    And now he claims "...no more junk email"

    OK. That's quite simply not possible, and he must know it.

    "Packed with secrets never before revealed"

    You're telling me there's a lot (wnough to "pack" a book this size) important useful things about the internet that only these three people knew until now?

    Hogwash.

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    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
    1. Re:This is the same Dvorak... by HeghmoH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      John Dvorak is a professional troll. What various slashdotters only dream of, he lives. What is a troll? Someone who writes something deliberately provocative to make people angry and respond. Accuracy doesn't even show up on the list of priorities. Dvorak has figured out how to make a living as a troll. Instead of trolling in forums, he trolls in his columns and books. Even though everybody knows that what he writes is crap and has no connection with reality, it still pisses people off enough that they read it, and point it out to their friends.

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  19. Quote makes it sound authentic. by Performer+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...."If only they had not strewn the book with error, verbiage and irrelavancy."....

    Hmm... sounds exactly like being online.

  20. Metacomment by Azghoul · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, I guess this will shut up the morons who complain that every Slashdot review is positive...

    (since this is a comment about comments, but on-topic because it's about reviews, does this count as a "metacomment"? My guess is I'm just an ass...)

  21. Re:Considering... by Chmarr · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Err... no. The columust is John C. Dvorak. The Dvorak Keyboard inventor is Dr. August Dvorak.

  22. Re:Why post? by Kombat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Slack" is good. I think you meant to say "flack." Slashdot gets flack for posting too many positive reviews.

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  23. sadly.... by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...i dont trust anyone who uses so many bevels, saturated colours and drop shadows on their site, so i wont be buying this book

  24. Re:Considering... by Hayzeus · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're obviously confused. Just to clear up any confusion, the book's author is not the inventor of the Dvorak keyboard, but is instead the famous Czech composer who brought us "The Moravian Duets" and "Slavonic Dances". Common mistake.

  25. Dead tree internet directories by British · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I always thought those "white pages" and "yellow pages" Internet directory books were funny. With the ever-so-changing web, you would end up with a book containing a bunch of URLs to nonexistant pages within a few months. Why bother with such a book when a search engine would do?

    Oh yeah, marketing. Of course, you could just make annual editions of internet "yellow pages" with corrected links, etc.

    It's like going to the mailbox outside the post office to mail a letter.

  26. P Is For Pirillo, P Is For Pathetic. by DoctorScooby · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to his webblog, in the last few months, this poor bugger got his ass fired from TechTV, only to be replaced by the uber-knowledgeable (*snicker*) Leo Laporte; gotten sick; gotten food poisoning; has a conspiracy theory that Doc Searls is actually Colonel Sanders; has a beef with hydrogenated oils in soda crackers; has sunk to the oh-so pathetic level of doodling on his own body in order to get hits to his website, "C:\PIRILLO.EXE -- Getting Screwed While Everybody Else is Getting Laid".

    And to top it all off, he writes a newsletter called "Windows Fanatics". I feel so bad for this guy. World Vision should add this guy to their client list, he's at least as pathetic as the starving AIDS-ridden African child with flies crawling on his face.

    BSD isn't dying, this guy is.

  27. why not 'online for dummies'? by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This book is as perfect for every computer user as the 'Internet Yellow Pages' are. HMM, lets make a BOOK out of PAPER that lists all the websites we can find. Brilliant. These books are for people who always say,

    'One of these days, you are going to have to teach me how to use computers'.

    No, I won't.
    Teach yourself or find something else to do. Writing a book like this is obviously going to make the authors and publishers some money, which is the point. This book was written by 'internet experts', the kind of people who get fired as soon as their companies find out how useless they really are. Then they get hired to write about what they barely know.

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  28. What does it take to get a 1? by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean really, there should be a competition to find a book which sets new lows.

    What's the point of having a scale of 1 to 10 if nobody has a 1?

    If Dvorak put out a book with so little value that it's not worth reading, will mislead anyone who doesn't know any better, would corrupt young minds if given to a library, would shame you to admit to have read it, much less purchased it, invokes sadness to look upon -- knowing that trees died to print it, leads you to question the sanity of the publisher or the motives of the author, then by all means, give it a 1!

  29. Oh the irony of it all by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems sort of ironic that they would have a website online for a book about computer and internet basics. It should have a message like those bumper stickers, "If you can read this you don't need this book".

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  30. Dial-up Ain't Gone... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and it may never be. I still help out at a dial-up ISP that's been open for business since 1989. We're a local mom and pop shop.

    We have a lot of customers. There's seniors who don't do anything but email, so our "PAYING" rate works well, at $5 for 20 hours of connection time, tracked by the second. (Who'd have thought $5 could last you six months?) Then there's joe and jane parent who don't want their kid on Kazaa all the time.

    All in all, dial-up still fills a niche. The low-bandwidth, low-cost niche. That's not going to be satisfied until there's datacount-based wireless service.

  31. Breakout box? by Glass+of+Water · · Score: 3, Informative
    This is a breakout box.

    While this is an example of a page with a sidebar.

    This is only worth commenting on because I had no idea what the hell you meant.

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