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BBEdit 7.1 Adds Safari-Based Preview
A user writes, "BBEdit has added a 'Preview in BBEdit' command in 7.1, so you can preview HTML inside BBEdit itself, using the Apple's Safari libraries." Also added is support for SFTP (file transfers over SSH), Rendezvous discovery of FTP servers, and more. Just-released version 7.1.1 adds more refresh options for the Preview feature.
BBEdit was, is, and probably will be an awsome program for the Mac. It's emacs without the bloat. :)
But everyone here's heard of it, right? RIGHT?!
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Should a minor release of an expensive, proprietary text editor really count as front page material on Slashdot? Clearly few people are interested, or else there would be more comments.
The thing I really miss in bbedit is the lack of emacs key bindings. So many times I want to just kill a line with a key stroke rather than selecting and cutting it.
bbedit is really showing its roots as a carbon app by not having these things which all other text windows in OS X have.
The other thing I'd like would be a nice context sensitive pretty-indent for computer languages. Emacs binds this to the tab-key but bbedit does not seem to have it. which is odd since it does have context sensitive coloring so you know its language aware.
I dont really care too much about the proliferation of exotic special use features without some of these more basic universal editing features.
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Is this like the Emacs extension that does a web browser?
What's the world coming to? Is there a zippy fortunes extension for BBEdit yet? How about the Sokoban game?
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I can't find a use for BBEdit outside of this niche these days either. I once used it to open stubborn text files and the like (much like I once used GraphicConverter to open stubborn image files), but the only reference I've seen in software recently to BBEdit it in dreamweaver's option to work with this app to edit code and the like. I imagine that this experience is not unique - it seems that as more standards support is added to the mac os, and as file systems become stronger, there is less and less use for this sort of app.
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SubEthaEdit, which was once called Hydra, has had both of these features for a couple months now. It also offers some pretty intriguing collaborative editing functionality, is written purely in Cocoa, and is both free and open. It integrated quite nicely with InputMethod extensions, like TextExtras, as well.
BBEdit was nice, before OS X and the availability of jEdit, jExt, emacs/carbon, vim and many of the other cross-platform editors. Now, it has fallen a bit behind the times, and is not worth the cost.
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I can't understand why anyone would pay $179 for BBEdit. I have always liked its free version, and at one time was thinking of buying it, but I was poor at the time. Now that I *could* afford it, I can't see why I'd want to shell out that much for a text editor that doesn't offer any more than emacs, or vim, or a lot of others.
Can anyone explain how this app is worth $179?
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This is one of the main reasons I use Dreamweaver, so I can preview + tweak code at the same time.
If BBEdit adds the site management that Dreamweaver has, I may switch to BBEdit full time...
It's called WebKit, not "the Safari library".
Well I'm extatic about this. I'm not a huge fan of making web pages, but I have to do it quite often for school. I do all of my sites in raw html to ease the boredom, and I use BBEdit exclusively. Being able to preview right in the program will make it that much easier to get my pages right faster.
Thank you Bare Bones. I have a feeling my productivity just went WAY up with this upgrade!
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Hand-coding HTML might be fine for geeks, but most regular users could use a WYSIWYG editor that is not as confusing as Dreamweaver and not as simplistic as Mozilla's built-in editor.
What I mean is, of course... good old discontinued CLARIS HOME PAGE. Someone has to make an editor that totally replicates CHP's interface and functionality, but that will generate modern HTML/CSS/whatever.
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BBEdit is stuck in yesterday. Anybody who thinks different is a fool. Remember, you have to pay more for this antiquated monstrosity than you do for the entire OS X operating system. So come on - do you really think there's more engineering in this one pathetic program than in all of OS X? Look at the Panther CDs man! Look at what you get! Think of all the people working on OS X all the time - and what they do is not worth the price of one slimy app from Rich Siegel? Come on!
There once was a time - long before many of you remember - when things like this were necessary. BBEdit worked with the operating system, if that can be said. But that is long ago. Today, the NSText system of OS X is bigger than Rich Siegel's loser program ever can be. You can make your own editor in ten minutes. Aaron Hillegass did it. So did Andrew Stone. Ten minutes tops. Gets you what you want - and when you're through, you can throw it away. Oh - and it's free.
BBEdit is NOT a native Cocoa app. It cannot take advantage of all the finesses in Cocoa. Test HTML pages in Safari? So what? I can do that today with my Services menu! Open a URL in Safari? Same thing. Services are the way to go - not this over-bloated emacs-type monster.
OS X is good because it's also Unix, and BBEdit violates ALL of the engineering rules of Unix. ALL of them. It's what Eric Raymond sees as the nadir of software engineering thinking. It's featurism taken to the extreme.
And the only reason this snake can stay in business is that he's been able to hype the likes of you.
When I used macs exclusively, I used BBEdit a ton, and sang its praises from the mountaintops. Now that I use every platform imaginable from a Windows box, I broke down and learned vi to exhaustion. It does everything BBEdit does (in terms of editing text), works on every platform, and is free.