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Intel To Produce Cheap LCoS Chips
SeattleGameboy writes "NY Times has an article about Intel's plan to produce low-cost liquid crystal on silicon (LCoS) chips. This could result in high-resolution 7"-thick rear-projection TV costing around $1000 by next Christmas (not to mention cheap projectors). I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ..."
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Such a powerful marketing and technology combination could blend easily with Microsoft's media center software, which is aimed at using personal computing technology as the heart of home entertainment centers.
That concerns me. Microsoft makes no bones about their "Trusted-this" and "DRM-that" direction. Considering their relationship with Intel I don't doubt that we'll see some sort of DRM crud built right into the TV to "protect consumers from themselves".
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December 17, 2003
New Intel Chip for Digital TV Could Remake the Market
By JOHN MARKOFF
SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 16 - The Intel Corporation is planning to do to digital television what it has already done to computing.
At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, which opens on Jan. 8, Intel is expected to disclose the development of a class of advanced semiconductors that technologists and analysts say will improve the quality of large-screen digital televisions and substantially lower their price, according to industry executives close to the company.
Intel's ability to integrate display, television receiver and computer electronics on a single piece of silicon is likely to open new markets for a class of products - including plasma, projection and L.C.D. TV's - that now sell for $3,000 to $10,000.
Intel, as well as other large chip manufacturers, should be able to expand the benefits of Moore's Law, named for Gordon Moore, a founder of Intel, which accurately predicted decades ago that computer chips would continue to double in capacity roughly every 18 months, while their price would continue to fall.
"I think this brings Moore's Law to digital television," said Richard Doherty, a consumer electronics industry analyst who is president of Envisioneering, a consulting firm based on Long Island. He predicted that the low-cost display technology, which can be incorporated into the traditional rear-projection television sets, could lead to lightweight 50-inch screens only 7 inches thick for about $1,000, perhaps as early as the 2004 holiday season.
Intel's expected decision to enter the television market is another powerful indicator of the computer industry's assault on the consumer electronics industry.
Both Gateway and Dell are already selling large-screen digital TV's made for them in Asia, and Hewlett-Packard has indicated it will also enter the market. Such a powerful marketing and technology combination could blend easily with Microsoft's media center software, which is aimed at using personal computing technology as the heart of home entertainment centers.
The Intel announcement, which is expected to be made at the show by Paul S. Otellini, the company's president and chief operating officer, would come just as high-definition digital television is beginning to take off in the United States.
A spokesman for Intel said the company would not comment on Mr. Otellini's presentation to the consumer electronics show.
This year, the Consumer Electronics Association, the trade group for the industry, said it expected revenue from digital television sets to surpass revenue from conventional analog sets for the first time. In June, sales of digital sets were running 110 percent ahead of sales in the month a year earlier.
The technology Intel has been exploring is known as liquid crystal on silicon. It is one of a number of competing technologies, including a novel approach pioneered by Texas Instruments called digital light processors, or D.L.P.
The Texas Instruments approach involves a silicon chip that has hundreds of thousands of microscopic mirrors that can tilt to reflect light. So far, it has been limited to relatively expensive digital TV's.
By contrast, the technology used by Intel employs vast arrays of tiny electronic shutters that can alter the amount of reflected light, an approach that may allow companies to make big-screen TV sets using rear-projection technology that matches or exceeds the quality of flat-panel TV's at a much lower cost than plasma and conventional L.C.D.
Although Intel is not expected to enter the market for digital televisions for at least a year, Philips Electronics, the Dutch manufacturer, and several American start-up companies have already begun offering liquid crystal on silicon, or LCoS, components and televisions.
"LCoS had a Phase 1 in the mid-1990's," said Sandeep Gupta, chief executive of the MicroDisplay Corporation, a chip maker in San Pablo, Calif., that ha
As long as they can do everything the HP MP3130 can do, I'll be happy.
brightness: 1800 peak ANSI lumens
display resolution: 1024 x 768 True XGA
colors: 16.7 million
light source: 180-watt compact P-VIP projector bulb
optics
lens: Non-telecentric
zoom capability: Digital and optical
projection distance: Approximately 3.3 to 29.4 ft
mobility
weight: 3.8 lb
dimensions: (w x d x h) 9 x 7.8 x 2.9 in
connectivity
video: Built-in full-screen NTSC/PAL/SECAM/HDTV video capability with S-video inputs (from DVD, Camcorder or VCR), HDTV (480p, 480i, 720p, 1080i, composite and component video
computer connectivity: XGA, SVGA, VGA, SXGA, SXGA+, Mac Lc13", Mac II 13", Mac 16", Mac 19", Mac, Mac G4, iMac DV
I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ...
You can always put it off for another year. Eventually you just have to take the plunge and buy it, realizing that you will kick yourself in 6 months when the same product is available for 25 - 50% less. But if you keep putting it off, you'll never buy anything.
I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ...
Yeah, that's what I said when I read that HDTV was "right around the corner." In _Commodore Magazine_. In 1988.
Long fucking corner, that's for sure.
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With current DLP projection (front and rear) systems, there is a relatively expensive light bulb to be replaced every 3-5 years at around $200 a pop. If this is the case with the LCOS technology as well, I don't think it will fare as well as predicted. Time will tell.
Are we going to have to upgrade our TVs as often as we upgrade computers?
Will there be $1000 panels or $3000 panels with a much higher profit margin?
Then again, there might be a new, huge mass market for large panels...
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Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover,
so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard."
This could result in high-resolution 7"-thick rear-projection TV costing around $1000 by next Christmas (not to mention cheap projectors). I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ..."
Yeah, it could result in that. But how long have we been waiting for stuff that could happen in a year. Broadband over power lines rings a bell. If you'd been waiting for that, you'd still be on dialup.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
Can we please, please, PLEASE stop mentioning Moore's Law in every single freaking article about Intel?
What are they going to do: make televisions cost half as much and go twice as fast after 18 months?
If I stand in front of it and say "Engage" will the whole house move?
Isn't the HP MP3130 more than twice as expensive
as the ~$1000 units based on this technology predicted by Doherty?
"several American start-up companies have already begun offering liquid crystal on silicon, or LCoS, components and televisions."
Toshiba has had an LCoS TV out for quite awhile now. I believe Mitsubishi also has one out. They are super expensive though. Native 1080p resolution and really thin though.
<obscene gesture>I got your 7 inch thick rear projection right here</obscene gesture>
DLP is nice, but a main issue with DLP is that you have to replace the bulbs every 3-4 years. Currently, bulbs for DLP units range anywhere from $300-600, which is no small investment. Of course, DLP is also a projection format, so the viewing angle is not as wide, and from what ones I've seen at the store, the blacks aren't quite as dark as the plasmas or traditional CRTs.
Does the LCoS technology address these issues of screen burn in, viewing angle, accurate colors & brightness, and bulb replacement?
AMD has announced it will be producing even lower cost chips that while rated for lower resolution, achieve higher resolution, but only when used with much larger cooling solutions.
The Intel Corporation is planning to do to digital television what it has already done to computing
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Get 3.999998456 digital television sets for the price of 2.00000000 + 2.000000000?
Either that or you'll wind up getting married to the thing.
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I hope Intel does the right thing and make this chip availible to experimenters as TI refuses to make their reflective mirror chip availible to experimenters. That way you could make your own displays/multiple screen displays. It's too bad companies like TI refuse to sell their (refflective chips) to the exprimenter/small product developers, we have reached an age where nobody works on their own cars anymore or people don't build as much things anymore (we just buy stuff)...I know that it's more expensive to build stuff, but the whole computer revolution was started by people working in their basement/garages developing cool stuff. The high-tech culture we live in is determined to a great extent by the ability of the people around you to be able to develop new products, not just big companies (look at linux). I hope that someday cheap fpga's come around and eventually real cheap nanotech allows everybody the ability to make something new.
I am putting of purchasing a new HDTV because I don't understand what the impact of the broadcast flag will be TVs and related products. I will be very upset if my expensive digital TV stops working 2005.
Have you seen a DLP Rear Projection TV recently? They are *nothing* like the old clunky CRT types from yesteryear. Color is very good, resolution is excellent and the viewing angle is actually quite good.
As far as your $1,000 42" flat panel display goes, the LCOS technology we're talking about here is not direct view. It uses reflected light just as a DLP does. The current techlogy for direct view screens like what you're speaking about are LCD and Plasma and both have their own problems.
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Yeah, and those damn cars will never take off either if you have to replace the tires every 3-5 years at $300 a pop
The light bulb (at $200) is a much more significant fraction of the cost of the TV than tires are compared to the cost of a car. Like 5-10% vs 1.5%.
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"In other news, Intel has announced a new 64-bit computing platform costing around $1000 by next Christmas..."
I guess I can put off buying a new computer for another year..."
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The problem with waiting to buy a TV is, all HDTVs made starting in 2005 will have that pesky chip in them that prevents you from recording shows that the broadcaster (or producer) doesn't want you to...
Unless you wait ANOTHER year so you can then find out which models the hackers have figured out a way to circumvent that chip in...
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Moore's Second Law: The number of mentions of Moore's first law on slashdot will double every 18 months.
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Now, can someone please make a television that shows something worth watching?
It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
With DLP this has to do with the spinning color wheel that illuminates the DLP chip with the proper light color. I've read that if they could speed up the spinning by about 5x it wouldn't be noticeable. I guess the reason you see the rainbows is because the colors reach your eye at different times. Someone else can explain it better I'm sure.
I was very excited about LCOS because there's no color wheel and the rainbow problems weren't supposed to be there. I was very disappointed when I went to look at Philips Cineos LCOS units however because I saw rainbows as well. Not as pronounced as DLP, but they were there. Not good.
Luckily soon after that I came across Sony's Grand Wega LCD projection sets. These are beautiful and worth checking out if you want a TV now. I got the 50" one and am extremely happy with it.
LCDs use a passive, reflective backing behind the polarized crystals to produce an opaque display. How about a double layer, with a color LCD over a black LCD? Then we could have LCD windows with video displays, and controllable opacity. Like Tyrell's room in _Blade Runner_, but with movies playing on the inside.
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