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History of a Famous Star Wars Scream
An anonymous reader writes "There is a very famous scream in Star Wars (Episode IV) that occurs when one of the stormtroopers falls into the Death Star chasm. No doubt all geeks are familiar with this scream, but may not know that it has been used in dozens of other movies and even has a name - "The Wilhelm". There is a fascinating interview (transcript and audio) from NPRs "On The Media" that discusses the now cult-like following and history of this scream."
I don't completely get it... So a sound file was used again and again...isn't this common place?
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In the Netherlands, the Wilhelm is actually even the national hymne.
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They had to use a fake scream for a guy falling in a chasm? What's next, fake applause during a sitcom?
There is a very famous scream in Star Wars (Episode IV) that occurs when one of the stormtroopers falls into the Death Star chasm.
No way, I heard that scream coming from the audience during Episode I.
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The first one I am nearly sure about is the swordfighting sound from civilization is the same as the black night scene from monty python and the holy grail.
I keep hearing the same whoosh sound that is in Doom when you use the rocket launcher in movies and on TV. Is it a standard sound that people keep reusing or do they just sound simmilar.
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Last year when I was writing dialogue for the Star Wars Galaxies online roleplaying game, I named one character "Wilhalm Skrim" in honest tribute to this scream.
How many sound effects have names and followings? =)
How about the sound at the end of Doom II, when the spawn-cubes shoot out??
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I dunno that scream doesn't sound too familiar to me, maybe I need to watch Stars Wars again? What I've always been amazed by is how many movies/commercials have used sounds from the game DOOM. I've heard its rocket and dying imp sounds in tons of things.
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it is just like stock art, this is a "stock sound' that can be used...
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Was Luke's scream that was added to the Empire Strikes Back Special Edition, when he falls down the shaft on Bespin after fighting Vader and losing his arm. First of all, it sounds nothing like Luke. Second of all, it changed the entire meaning of the scene where the scream meant Luke's fall was accidental rather than intentional. A guess Lucas never heard of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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I have heard of the "Wilhelm" before, but it was still interesting seeing the complete story (and the complete-?- list, well almost, it is still unknown who the voice talent was, but I think it adds to the mystery.The grass is only greener, if you don't take care of your own lawn.
The Goofy scream would have made the first Star Wars movies infinitely more hilarious, and may have even made the prequels bearable. Maybe.
This isn't so very special. There are many screams and other sounds that get reused. Lots of action movies use the same screams you can hear in the N64 game "Goldeneye." There is a creaky door sound that I've heard used in video games ("Riven" is the one I remember best), TV shows, movies, and even commercials.
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Not being a huge Star Wars fan, I have no idea what this story is about. But I'm going to have to guess that whoever did the screaming can hardly compare to the best screamer of our time, the godfather of soul, the legendary James Brown. This is a man who has filled our hearts with joy through his screaming over the years, and I suggest that we honor him over this holiday season. Who can forget the screams he gave us; the subtle "WHOOOO", the energetic "GOOD GOD", and the classic "WHOOO ALRIGHT, YEAH ALRIGHT". In a history of screams, it is hard to underestimate the enourmous influence this one man has had on the genre.
why? cos shes prolly never seen a skinny naked guy with +4 bifocal horn-rimmed glasses? :P
Leprechaun 4 (Leprechaun in Space) (which is a very bad movie, BTW, and I recommend against wasting any of the precious seconds of your life, watching it) uses Doom's door opening and closing sound effect.
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If you read the article, you can see that some guy was tracking down the source of the sound. He "found" it in an old western where a character named Wilhelm gets shot in the leg with an arrow.
Later, he found it in an earlier movie/sound, but I figure the name was already stuck.
Doesn't it more likely that the name comes from when some guy named Wilhelm screams in a movie?
Let's start with analyzing the sound effects in Star Wars...
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When I read the title of this article, only one scream came to mind, and I'm sure many of you will remember it. I have heard it used in many places, but the two most notable are these video games:
Dark Forces: Whenever you knock a Storm Trooper off a ledge to his death.
Starcraft: Whenever you select the Academy structure.
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I remember hearing this scream in RotK somewhere, during one of the battle sequences involving Minas Tirith. However, the 'stealing' of sounds (that scream sound isnt stealing) is more common than people suspect. Though i can only think of 1 movie off hand that did so (Leprakaun 4: in space, haha), MANY scifi movies have ripped sound effects from video games, most notably Doom2, specifically door effects. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard a Doom II door opening sound used in TV or a movie. However, its more than just Doom II; I've heard video game gun shots, explosions, and so on; never do these recieve any credit. I can only imagine the amount of trouble some of these movies or shows would get into if they were discovered to be using non-royalty-free/non-folly sounds.
On a side note, I've been to sound studios before where they do mixing for movies and tv, and these guys often have huuuuuuuuge sound archives, both folly and royalty-free, and very often if you are working on a project for someone and they hand you a CD filled with audio effects made for their show/movie, you copy that effects cd for yourself for later use. So if you look out and have good audio memory, you can hear every once in a while a sound thats been used in other shows/movies. This is doubly true for TV where the schedules are tighter as well as money.
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I heard this exact scream TWICE during Return of the King. Within 2 minutes of each other no less. Once from an Orc and once from a human during the main battle sequence. Kinda jarred me for a second. Only heard it once from the Two Towers.
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I should just read the actualy *BLURB* before posting then, shall I? I hadn't noticed the link in the article was identical to my submission.
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I always thought it was a reference to Wilhem Podunk, the aspiring 1940s star of the never released MGM epic "The Romans". Playing Julius Caesar, Podunk was expected to perform on his horse along two thousand extras, each one holding a pike aimed at the Hun army in front of them. The scene required Caesar to command his men to prepare for an attack, turn left and then charge toward the enemy.
Podunk reportedly strode down the line of pikers majestically, presented his lines heroically and, unfortunately, turned right before spurring his horse on.
The clip of the resulting scream is all that remains of "The Romans", even the recording of Louis B. Mayer's shout, "Your Other Left!", has been lost; leaving a sad legacy for a man that could have been a bigger star than Cooper, if only he had a better sense of direction.
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You're telling me that one scream from one Elf in a 3 hour movie during a protracted battle scene "detracts from the movie"? Can we say "overly critical"?
There is a reason for her voice sounding the way is does.
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Here is a website that tries to list all of "The Wilhelm" occurrences in films.
They claim "A series of short painful screams performed by an actor were recorded in 1951 for the Warner Brother's film "Distant Drums." They were used for a scene where a man is bitten and dragged underwater by an alligator. The recording was archived into the studio's sound effects library -- and it was used in many of their films since.
"Star Wars" Sound Designer Ben Burtt tracked down the scream recording - which he named "Wilhelm" after a character who let out the same scream in the film "Charge at Feather River." Ben has adopted the scream as sort of a personal sound signature, and has included it in many of the films he has worked on. He and a small circle of sound effects people, including myself and Richard Anderson, continue the crusade to keep Wilhelm alive. The Wilhelm Scream continues to be heard in new films every year."
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Listen for it in hospital scenes - I heard it in an episode of Arthur that my daughter was watching the other day when someone was in a hospital, it's in a Queensryche song off of Mindcrime, I've heard it on various soaps that the wife watches...
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That'd make me scream like that.
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I was at a Christmas party for a sound studio here in LA, and they had a 20-30 minute video filled with clips of people using that screeam.
It was hilarious and strange - everything from gladiators to aliens, and they were all screaming exactly the same. I really commend the guy who did the research to put it all together.
Dang, I wish I had a copy of that tape.
offers some good competition here.... during his infamous 'monkey boy' performance.
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If you listen to some of the Peter Jackson interviews on sound effects in TTT, he mentions that people have to to expect that sound (and indeed mentions Monty Python as well) so they more or less have to put it in or people thing it will sound fake...
The point is, these sounds never die. And that's a beautiful thing.
I produce music and I carry around about 18GB of uncompressed audio with me. Nothing ever leaves that library - only new things go into it. Same thing for any sound editor.
In 2024 we'll crack open some crufty old Linux kernel file and find the code equivalent of the Wilhelm scream. Probably with a FIX ME comment.
Sheesh, no dutch moderators today, looks like. The National Athem is called "Wilhelmus".
When the Nazgul attack Faramir and his troops when they're sent back to Osgiliath, one of the soldiers is picked up by a Nazgul and dropped. He screams the Wilhelm on his trip to the ground.
However,
It would probably be more appropriate to say, "...how many movies/commercials have used the same sounds that were also used in the game DOOM." Most of those sounds are pretty common sound effects library stuff.
It is commonly touted that geek originally meant a sideshow performer who bites the heads off chickens or snakes. While this is a sense of the word, it is not the original one.
Geek is actually a very old word. It is a variant of geck, a term of Low German/Dutch origin that dates in English to 1511. It means a fool, simpleton, or dupe. Geck is even used by Shakespeare in Twelfth Night, V.i.:
Why haue you suffer'd me to be imprison'd. And made the most notorious gecke and gull That ere inuention plaid on? The geek spelling is an American variation, even though Shakespeare uses the spelling geeke in Cymbeline V.iv., but this is probably just a misspelling. Geek first appears (outside the single Shakespearean usage) in 1876 America. American usage adds the connotation of offensive or undesirable to the original foolish and stupid sense. The Carnival sideshow sense appears in 1928.
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TheForce.net has an old article about this along with a quicktime montage of the scream in different movies. Now it's stuck in my head and it'll stick out like a sore thumb whenever I hear it...
http://download.theforce.net/video/wilhelm_48mb.mo v
I'm pretty sure that was credited to 'Stormtrooper THX-1138.'
Most of those sounds are in Sound Ideas' "The General" 6000 series, copyright 1992.
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Personally, find it annoying to hear it so much. I watch the Lord of the Rings and think of all the hard work that was put into it, and then I hear the same canned scream that was in virtually all of the Star Wars movies (and a bijillion others). It just makes me think "cheap". Using the same old sound as everyone else. I don't care if it's paying "homage" to some mythical voice actor or not, it simply reminds the audience that your movie isn't that different from all of the others after all.
Another glaring example of this is the police dispatcher sound played when you click on a police station in Sim City. Seriously, you hear that everywhere. Worst example: X2 - when the police show up to the kid's house. Listen...it's there.
Sorry about the rant...for some reason that Wilhelm scream just really gets my goat.
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A little story from a LOTR set here in Wellington (related to me by a friend who worked there): The Nazgul scream sound effect was a bit naff, and the hobbits jumping in shock and surprise weren't really getting into it. So Fran Walsh (scriptwriter, producer, and partner of Peter Jackson) crept up and when the Nazgul scream sound effect was supposed to happen she let loose with the loudest, highest-pitch scream you can imagine. Hobbits jumped in surprise and shock, as they should. Peter Jackson chortled and filmed. So they redid the sound effect, basing it on Fran's scream.
Star Wars broke a lot of ground to making sci-fi movies more realistic on the screen. Sounds are just one of the many unappreciated things that went into that movie.
So true. Alot of people just can't appreciate how tough it is to accurately duplicate that whooshy noise of spaceships in vacuum.
Don't even get me started on the subtle nuances of explosions in space.
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I was watching Terminator 3 on DVD a couple of weeks ago and in two instances I clearly heard the "Wowrraar!" scream of a panther/cougar/wildcat/"Thundercat"(TM):
1) When the crane flips over and hits the conveniently located truck carrying welding gas tanks..boom..wowrarrr!
2) Near the end when the Terminator crash-lands a helicopter into a tunnel and slides along the ground. booom...screech..wowrarrr!
These cat screams jolted me out of the movie. What the heck was a cougar scream doing in there? Is it supposed to make it "cool" or something? The Terminatrix's scream is different, much more mechanical, so I doubt it's supposed to be her.
When the orcs arrive at the river after Frodo has had his encounter with Boromir, and Aragorn is stepping forward to meet them in slow-motion, you can hear a very loud sheep baa-ing. Twice.
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Hey, I read that same scream in the prolog to the original Castle Wolfenstein on the Apple II....
Eh, people say 'realistic' when they mean 'vivid'. In anything by SF/fantasy, they're equivalent.
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so now you can hear your scream and wear it, too.
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