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Stop Christmas-Gift PCs From Feeding Worms

An Anonymous Reader writes "If you recently set up a new PC with Windows XP, or if you had the pleasure to do a 'reinstall from scratch,' you probably found that many XP systems as they are shipped today are not patched against common issues like Blaster. Given that these worms are still going strong, it doesn't take long for a new system to be infected. In particular, if you have to connect it to the Internet to download all the patches. Well, help is in sight. The SANS Institute released a paper entitled Windows XP: Surviving the First Day." (Read on below.) Update: 12/24 17:59 GMT by T : Thanks for reader Bill Curnow for the updated link. Update: 12/24 19:15 GMT by T : Besides the workaround suggested below, Roblimo has a good suggestion on avoiding the first-day-of-Windows altogether.

"With many screen shots, it will walk you through the procedure to enable the XP firewall and downloading the patches without getting infected while doing so. This could be the (free) stocking stuffer that may save Christmas for your folks ;-). Given that its probably to late now to start downloading your favorite Linux distro."

But if you do have the time and bandwidth, and you're stuck on Windows, a nice live-CD distro like Knoppix or Mepis means you can download patches without racing the worms, and install your patches while offline. (And if you have time to download 50MB, you have time to grab Damn Small Linux.)

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  1. Bad link. by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    xp.homepc.org not found.

    Check those links, people.

    1. Re:Bad link. by rf0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://www.homepc.org/ looks like a dynamic DNS service. I bet all the requests caused the user to get dumped.

      Rus

    2. Re:Bad link. by Frymaster · · Score: 4, Funny
      xp.homepc.org not found.

      it's been clobbered by blaster.

  2. Easy by skinfitz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Click Start > Network and Dial up connections

    Right click on your internet connection, choose "Properties"

    Click "Advanced"

    Click the box to turn on the firewall

    Voila. You are safe from Blaster.

    As an added precaution, deselect "Client for Microsoft Networks" from all interfaces except any you really need it on.

  3. The title should have been.. by Poilobo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our Server: Surviving the Slashdotting

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  4. something wrong? by Stanza · · Score: 5, Informative
    Bad link? It doesn't seem to work.


    Try this instead.


    http://www.sans.org/rr/papers/index.php?id=1298

  5. And they say Slashdot hates Windows by Ridgelift · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's been a lot of "Slashdot posts ever anti-Windows article that exists", but this article debunks that.

    I usually recommend a hardware firewall, in particular the little blue Linksys firewalls. Home users can hook up their ADSL connection, plug in the firewall, and then their PC. Then as long as they don't download email until their system is patched and anti-virus is updated, they're relatively safe from most malware.

    This year I've also begun recommending anti-spyware as well. It's amazing how ubiquitous that stuff's become over the past year.

  6. Site slow, here's some quick n' dirty instructions by rebelcool · · Score: 5, Informative

    I figure if you're reading this on slashdot you don't need screenshots to find your way around a monitor...

    Obviously, this should be done before you plug the machine into any kind of internet connection.

    -Go to Start and then Control Panel.
    -Once in Control Panel, choose Network Connections
    -Right click on your connection of choice (if there's more than one, do it for all of them) and choose Properties.
    -Go to the advanced tab and check the Firewall check box.

    If you want to know more about how to configure it and modify the settings, click the link below that checkbox for directions.

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  7. Re:Easy Alternative by qualico · · Score: 4, Funny

    Click Start > Network and Dial up connections Right click on your internet connection, choose "DISABLE" Voila! The proper config for any Windows Box!

  8. Let's not forget... by GarfBond · · Score: 4, Informative
    those great OSS packages that you can install on Windows, if your recipient insists on keeping that as the main OS :)

  9. Chicken and the egg by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a classic catch-22 when you need to download the patches, but the act of downloading them makes you vulnerable ... I have just bought my parents a new PC (with XP, they're not up to Linux just yet ...) and I never thought twice about doing the windows-update thing... OTOH, they are behind a decent firewall (that does run Linux :-) so the risk is pretty minimal.

    Perhaps all these DSL/WiFi combo boxes will be a blessing in disguise because they all come with a firewall (on by default, with Cisco's Linksys ones :-)

    Simon

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  10. Need for Microsoft patch CD by jaredmauch · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Microsoft needs to ship everyone who does "Product Activation/Registration" with them a CD that includes the patches necessary to secure ones systems. Yes, it will always be out of date, but at least you won't get infected with some 1-2 year old vulnerability.

    People should return non-patched systems that are shipped from the manufacturer, and return systems where the install CDs don't put them to the same patch level they are shipped with.

    while this isn't a cure-all solution to the patch mania that is necessary, but will go a long way to help bring up the baseline security of all these end-user hosts on the internet.

  11. I feel for the home user... by aml666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My systems are behind a Hardware Proxy and a software firewall. I feel safe and have not been compromised... yet.

    Those poor home users who are not technically savvy are pretty screwed. They won't be able to figure out *nix and don't want to pay the bucks for Apple.

    Microsoft should offer (no not MSN) a method for new Windows machines to dial direct for patches before connecting to the Internet.

    This method should be over ridable for the safer crowd.

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  12. Re:Easy Alternative by B3ryllium · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, the proper technique is called a "reach around". You reach around behind the box, unplug the network cable or phone line (I caught a worm over dialup once, that was the most hilarious thing ever), and consider yourself lucky.

  13. Re:It's not just XP by SoCalChris · · Score: 4, Informative

    The main problem with standard XP is the stupid requirement to phone home to register before downloading the patches to make it safe to be on the net in the first place.

    That's FUD. XP gives you 60 days to activate your copy of windows. During those 60 days, Windows is fully functional and allows you to connect without any activation related troubles.

  14. The basis for a TV reality show by jhines · · Score: 4, Funny

    Steve B and Bill G install a new Windows PC, without any help, or special privileges, or special help lines.

    Now, that is what I call a reality show.

  15. Here on the Hell Desk... by uncleroot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I do DSL tech support for a large telco with a three letter name starting with "S" and ending with "C" and I have to bite my lip every time these poor, dumb people call in connecting their brand new Dells and Compaqs to the DSL with no firewall and not a clue as to what Windows Update is and why they need it. The reason I bite my lip is that Windows Update and firewalls are outside my scope of support and I was already told by my team lead not to waste time helping people with that stuff. Even worse, offical training tells us to leave the Windows firewall off when configuring a PPPoE connection - I am not making that up!

    It's sad and irresponsible to let these people wander onto the Internet with their unprotected Windows computers like dogs wandering onto the freeway.

  16. Re:wormies worry me by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If your 'Joy' stick fits in a USB port, you have bigger problems then the blaster worm."

    The nice thing about flaming somebody over the internet is that you don't have to have a big dick to tell somebody they have a small one.

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  17. Re:The long-life of the Blaster worm is the ISPs f by pigscanfly.ca · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your ISP shouldnt have to filter out random ports because someone somewhere wrote some crap software which is now easily explotaible over those ports .
    The fault is all the users who didnt patch there systems .
    I dont know about you but when my ISP starts port filtering I get pissed off , that my decision to make not theres (stupid monkies blocked of port 20 through 25 . I had to run ssh on a different port!)

  18. The Best Christmas Present by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You can give someone is a Mac. Mom got one a while ago, and I have made two troubleshooting calls. One was due to my Dyn-dns client I had installed to reach the box ( the mac hadn't been on for a bout a month), and the other was when I got an email saying, "I can't send email". Classic.

    Compare that to a godawful dialup VNC session on a home shopping network XP box where I needed to fix blaster and the person didn't know how to get to system settings.

    I sold a mac that day with "Guess what, buy a mac and you will never have to deal with this again."

    (and I won't either, to myself) That's why it is the best Christmas present you can give yourself, if you are the designated "computer-guy". Not having to deal with other people's XP is worth its weight in Half-Life Gold, Al Franken, and Myth II: Soulblighter.

  19. Linux for Roblimo's Stepdaughters? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I understand wanting to advocate alternatives at all times, but come on now Rob.

    There is no way in HELL that I'd consider giving a linux machine to a friend or relative who is light on technical ability.

    I am already on call to fix the computers of my friends and family, my girlfriend, my girlfriend's best friend, my girlfriend's sister, and my girfriend's sister's girlfriend.

    I'd easily double the amount of free support that I've have to give if I gave someone a linux machine. Even if most of the calls ended up being "No, I can't help you install 'Barbie goes to the beach' because the version that you have is for Windows", that is still crap that I don't want to deal with.

    I'd rather burn a disk with Ad Aware and Spybot Search & Destroy and give it to people than to have to educate people on a system that they know nothing about.

    So many people these days don't know a thing about DOS, so how can you expect them to take the time to learn bash? More times than I would like to remember, I had to use the console to fix a problem on one of my linux machines that just couldn't be done through X. Sometimes the problem was that I couldn't launch X.

    Windows is the devil that most people know. As awful as the security is, as awful as Microsoft's business practices are, Windows is the top dog and most mundanes don't care about anything but being able to check the weather, get email, bring up a few web pages, and play some games. For most people, that is easier to do with Windows.

    LK

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  20. Re:Easy Alternative by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Informative

    you won't get any spyware or data-mining cookies sneaked onto your computer

    What, you're saying that not a single Linux web browser supports cookies? A "data-mining" cookie is just a cookie to track you as you browse the web - one set by an advertising site such as doubleclick. They work just as well whatever OS you're running.

    6. Use your new shiny computer as you're pleased

    Well, y'see, it pleases me to run games like Dungeon Siege, Postal 2, Warcraft 3, and a whole host of others that don't have native Linux versions (don't mention Wine, please). It also pleases me to write code in C# (again, forget mono, it's not nearly there yet). Until Linux provides me the means to do these things, it'll always be my secondary OS, Windows will be my primary, and "advice" to secure my PC by wiping Windows and installing Linux will be treated with the contempt that it deserves.

    However, none of those bugs/holes will expose your PC to worms such as Blaster

    You are of course aware that the first internet-borne worm utilised a buffer overflow in sendmail to infect computers? Don't go getting over-confident - true, I can't think of any Linux-targetting worms at the moment, but it's been done before, and it will be done again.