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10 Ads The US Won't See

prostoalex writes "Some ads made by world's leading advertising agencies for well-known brands will never be seen in the United States. The Gucci G-Spot turned out to be too risque, video for Drug-Free America was deemed too disgusting, Internet's favorite Honda "Cog" commercial won't air due to the high prices for a 2-minute spot, and Japanese commercials with American actors have contracts preventing the companies to run the same ads in the US. AdAge provides a link to the pictures and video (Windows Media .ASF format, alas) of the 10 best unaired commercials." I can get the ASFs working under VLC.

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  1. I 4 1 by Zangief · · Score: 3, Funny

    don't welcome any new ads. The only good ad is the blocked/skipped ad.

  2. To mutilate an old phrase... by OtakuHawk · · Score: 2, Funny

    No ads is good ads.

  3. But... by Click+0+Nett · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was under the impression that the Honda "Cog" commercial wasn't released in the US was because the car which was being advertised was a UK-only model! Anyway, I've seen it, and it's very impressive if you can stand the low-quality file from the Honda site.

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    1. Re:But... by Buran · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, we do get it here in the US (though not the wagon version -- a huge shame, as the wagon is gorgeous) -- as the Acura TSX.

    2. Re:But... by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Redundant

      Just as a post-script for those interested.. the cog commercial is ALL REAL. Nothing was rigged in the whole commercial, it's just a perfectly timed, well-executed setup. The tires were all counterweighted inside at the top to get them to roll uphill. I think there is only one place they cheated..and it took them around 60 takes to get it right.

    3. Re:But... by SiliconJesus101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And Peter Fischli and David Weiss's "the way things work" is a blatant rip off of anything Rube Goldberg did (http://www.rube-goldberg.com/ ). At least credit the originator of these contraptions and not some other imitator.

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    4. Re:But... by NeuroKoan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it took 606 takes

      http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/hondacog.as p

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    5. Re:But... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was under the impression that the Honda "Cog" commercial wasn't released in the US was because the car which was being advertised was a UK-only model!

      Who cares what model they showed? They're advertising their build quality.

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    6. Re:But... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not true, there is ONE join where the exhaust silencer rolls end over end.

      In the UK, Honda gave it out on a free DVD to anyone who 'phoned - I got mine, but the idiots who encoded it did it letterbox rather than anamorphic.

      I blame the agency for not knowing the difference.

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    7. Re:But... by gidds · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, but what you see is only 2 of them. (There's one join in the middle; but there is no other camera trickery or effects; it's all physically happening as you see it. Quite an achievement.)

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    8. Re:But... by rjforster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The cheating part is with the elliptical exhaust component which only just rolls far enough to hit the next thing. That is only cheating in the sense that they stiched two shots together, not in the computer graphics from scratch sense. Obviously it's approx half way through the ad. Also one of the sections only _ever_ worked properly on the one take where it all worked properly, can't remember which that was.
      The ironic part is that channel4 here in the UK had done a 3h show on the 100 best adverts in the history of British TV only about two weeks or so before Cog was first shown. I'm sure Cog would have knocked the Guinness 'Waiting' ad off the top spot.

  4. Another ad America won't see by Gyan · · Score: 5, Funny

    NOT safe for work...

    Hand-rolled cigars (MPG)

  5. What about ads you can only see here? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm more interested in the ads that won't be shown in other countries because they are too "racy", "religiously offensive", etc. It's always fascinating to see how another culture rules out elements that we think are normal. The other way around is not so surprising, since we all watch the TV here all the time, and we know what shows and what doesn't on our own tv's.

    Ultimately, I must agree that the "best" commercial is no commercial at all.

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    1. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can't see anything advertised on American TV offending anyone else. Save for ads for pork products getting shown in Israel or iin Islamic countries, that orgasmic shampoo in those few spots in the world more uptight that the USA, those horrid infomercials with those insultingly sterotypical "Australian" hosts, or the plethora of ads that are just insulting to the intellegence of a demented bee. Other than that, America is hopelessly anal-retentive and whitebread. Hell, we bore ourselves to death!

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    2. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by Zarhan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I made my first trip to States in September. I didn't have too much time to watch TV, but I kept it on when I was in my hotel room, and I noticed a few things about the commercials compared to Finnish ones.

      - Commercials every 5-7 minutes (and they lasted 5-7 minutes, too!)
      - LOTS of car commercials. And the arguments were not about fuel economy, environment, or safety, but how fast and impressive they were.

      The most absurd commercial I saw were clips advocating coal energy. The tagline was like "Electricity from coal: Cleaner, more
      affordable and abudantly better.".

      Also, regarding the article: I remember watching some sort of short documentary by Playboy a few years back, and they also covered commercials in Europe. I was quite fascinated when the narrator and commentaries were like "How can you even remember what they are advertising, this is hot stuff" - In a Rexona ad, two women get sweaty at the gym and afterwards go take a shower and use Rexona's soap. I don't think anyone in here would have considered that erotic or arousing, but apparently to American eyes it was like hard-core porn :)

    3. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by puz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In America, you see many ads saying brand A (ours) is better than brand B (our competitor's), and I think there's nothing wrong with that. FWIW, in Japan, you aren't alowed to mention your competitor by name and trash them, because doing so is considered undignified.

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    4. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by pipingguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The "Friends of Canadian Broadcasting" has a current TV ad campaign promoting home-grown drama television production. The spots are pretty funny and feed off the cliched ignorant-aboot-Canada American stereotype (in all four, a US director is in the great white north working on set on TV productions about Canada).

      Sir John A. Macdonald (QuickTime 4.4MB):

      Richard the Rocket(QuickTime 4.2MB):

      Snow Gangsta (QuickTime 4.2MB):

      Bobby Orr (QuickTime 2.8MB):

    5. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by Fizzog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually nowdays in the US marketers are more into psychology than direct comparison. They phrase their ads so people read something into their statements which they aren't actually saying.

      They make statements like:

      'No other xxx is more effective'
      'No other xxx is stronger'
      'No other xxx is better at...'
      'Even xxx isn't better than...'

      But if you actually think about what they are saying with those statements, they are not saying that their own product is better than any other product.

      They are actually saying that they are *all* just as effective/strong/whatever as each other.

      People just read into statements phrased that way that they are saying their product is better than the others.

      Listen to how they compare stuff these days in ads and you will see what I mean, and probably be astonished at how many ads do this.

    6. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by jandrese · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Man, where was this? I was in Canada when I was 16 and I scoured the tube looking for any nudity. The only stuff I ever found was some late night (scrambled) movies. From what I could tell, they were even more conservative than the US. Maybe it was the region I was in (Calgary--Canada's version of Houston, TX) or something. The only really notable thing was that some really odd stuff got on TV just because it was made in Canada since the Canadian equivelent of the FCC requires some percentage of the TV air time to be filled with Canadian stuff (to avoid becoming Americans I guess).

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    7. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by tie_guy_matt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      America is the most religous country in the industrialized world based on the number of churches versus population and the number of people that attend them. I am sure that MOST people in the US would probably be ok with racier TV (see cable and movies) but when someone does something that is even a little over the top the religous right comes out and mails a gazillion letters.

      Keep in mind that many of the people that originally came to this country did it to escape religious persecution. So in other words many of the worlds religious nuts came to this country and are now sending letters in to fox because they said the word "ass" one too many times. Well things are changing alittle. I think it is actually ok to say "ass" on tv and in fact fox is thinking of changing their slogan so it has the word "ass" in it. So basically the US is 20-30 years (at least) behind the rest of the world when it comes to putting sex on TV.

      What I don't understand is that I believe that we are 10-20 years ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to putting violence on TV and movies.

      enter rant mode:

      I mean WTF? It is ok to have a movie where millions of people have their cuts spewed out of them in violent death scenes but god forbid if anyone could use the media to figure out where babies come from. Many years ago I saw in the video store that they made a PG version of the movie titanic. What made it PG? Did thousands of people not get sent to their horrifying death? No mostly they just took out the sex scenes. I mean no one should know that Kate Winslet is acutally anatomically correct. And another thing, why the hell do they put brail instruction on drive through ATMs? ... oops went to far better stop now ...

      rant mode off

    8. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by jerde · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention the fact that Americans have decided that the penis is the most horrible awful thing that must be shunned at all costs. NEVER allow one on tv.

      Naked ladies are okay though.

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    9. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Keep in mind that many of the people that originally came to this country did it to escape religious persecution. So in other words many of the worlds religious nuts came to this country and are now sending letters in to fox because they said the word "ass" one too many times.

      It's a little like white Australians trying to keep immigrants out.

      The USA is now a 'stale' country. Lack of immigrants, misguided belief that the state can protect them from terrorism, and a very strong isolationism that is helped by the geographic position. Fear is a big help for people to join up with churches.

    10. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by szmccauley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You want annoying? How about those ridiculous ads for prescription drugs, whose purpose is unknown at the time of the viewing. "Ask your doctor about Xanthanaxamum". And the idiot sitting in his pickup truck (can't see the gun rack) nods his head and thinks, "yeah, I gotta ask ole doc Carson about Xanthanaxamum". What the fuck is Xanthanaxamum!! Idiocy.

    11. Re:What about ads you can only see here? by jacoby · · Score: 2, Informative

      The best commercial is one that comes off as news to you. Not "presents itself as news", but comes off as news.

      I was told this by a journalism prof, thought it was bullshit, then picked up a copy of Maximum Rock'n'Roll, saw that there was a new Fugazi album coming out (because Dischord put in an ad to tell me) and I was enlightened.

  6. kazaa by Pompatus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do a search on kazaa for banned commercials. It's too bad they are banned from tv because most are hilarious.

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  7. Doge Aries K Class by dildatron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Even though it's not a real commercial (used to be on AdCritic back when it was good), I loved the Dodge Aries K-Class car commercial. It was a hilarious spoof of car commercials...

    98 horsepower... standard.

    map light... standard.

    etc.

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    1. Re:Doge Aries K Class by dildatron · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, poop. Here is a link that doesn't require an evil subscription.

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  8. There are some things money can't buy... by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Production costs: $1.2 million
    2 minutes of network airtime: $2 million
    Mention on Slashdot: Priceless.

    1. Re:There are some things money can't buy... by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mention on Slashdot: Priceless.
      Stop deluding yourself and others ;)

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  9. The solution to TV advertising by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sick of seeing the same old ads on TV? Seems like every hockey game I see involves 5 minutes of ads, 3 minutes of which are repeats! Well I've got the solution!

    All advertising must be done live. No pre-taped commercials, ever. Even if it's the same script read by the same person there will be some difference. Now if a company spends a mil or two on a commercial it'll really mean something.

    Of course it'll never happen, but if it did I'd be alot happier with advertising.

    Jonah Hex

  10. Call it a hunch... by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something tells me the second ad, "Gucci's G Spot," will be the one primarily responsible for the site's eventual Slashdotting.

    1. Re:Call it a hunch... by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      If only because people will be curious as to what a G Spot is.

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    2. Re:Call it a hunch... by hdparm · · Score: 2, Funny

      New Apple's processor?

    3. Re:Call it a hunch... by bakes · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I looked, but I couldn't find it.

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  11. I bet we'll never see an ad for this... by Sevn · · Score: 3, Funny

    *useful product.

    *credit goes to some person on fark a while ago.

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  12. What about TiVo? by phillymjs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not break up a block of late-night "paid programming," and broadcast some of the more enticing ads within that time so TiVo can pick them up separately.

    Stick a line on the Now Showing screen labelled "Check out the ads THEY don't want you to see!" or something like that.

    If the ads are compelling enough to straddle the advertisement/entertainment line, people will watch. I watched those BMW commercials that ran in the same slot a while back-- didn't make me run out and buy one, but they were entertaining.

    ~Philly

  13. This is wrong by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Some ads made by world's leading advertising agencies for well-known brands will never be seen in the United States.

    So basically, the good ads aren't broadcast, and I have to Tivo-triple-fast-forward all the ones I *do* get on TV because they're such a tripe.

    Here's a suggestion for TV networks : instead of trying to sue DVR manufacturers because it lets customers skip your crap, why don't you replace the crap with good ads (and no, I'm not talking about Budweiser or Taco Bell ads)? Of course, you may have to leave good taste behind once in a while, but I bet good ads would being better brand recognition with less airtime, meaning less ads for viewers overall and less DVR zapping.

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    1. Re:This is wrong by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Screw "good ads" which loosely translates to an amusing joke, pretty people/landscapes, and appeals to emotion.

      Show me some facts. Tell me why your product is better than your competitors. Show me a good price.

      I'm not holding my breath, a fact-based advertising model would kill so many popular brands and empower consumers it wouldn't even be funny.

    2. Re:This is wrong by edo-01 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Here's a suggestion for TV networks : instead of trying to sue DVR manufacturers because it lets customers skip your crap, why don't you replace the crap with good ads (and no, I'm not talking about Budweiser or Taco Bell ads)? Of course, you may have to leave good taste behind once in a while, but I bet good ads would being better brand recognition with less airtime, meaning less ads for viewers overall and less DVR zapping.

      This and other posts I see all the time on Slashdot hit that most hit of nails sqaure on the head. The market (that'd be us) wants to be able to watch our shows when it suits us and skip the crappy commercials so we buy PVRs. The Industry responds by suing PVR manufacturers, putting the commercials IN the shows themselves and generally jamming it's fingers in it's ears and humming really loud. And yet these same people, so terrified of losing advertising viewers, when confronted with the evidence that there are many commercials that not only do consumers want to see, they actually want to download them and pass them around to each other - (ie, the same people who skip over crappy ads like the good ads so much they will happily spend their own time and resources to distibute them) - the industry responds by trying to shut down the websites that make this possible (remember what they did to the first incarnation of adcritic) and if they ever do decide to make them available online they do so in some crappy streaming format. It must be just me, but if I'd spent a million dollars to produce a spot so funny/compelling/whatever that ordinary people are going out of their way to see, I'd make damnned sure it was available on the net in every format possible, via webistes, bittorrent, kazaa and carrier pigeon.

      Faced with their markets avalanching away from their beloved business models to third party on-demand digital alternatives the various industries (RIAA, networks, advertisers et al) have made the decision that it's the consumer who is wrong and therefore the only solution is to re-apply their failed methodology with even more vigour only now with DRM, region encoding, lawsuits and "re-education" campaigns.

      Networks and advertisers should be partnering with PVR makers, not fighting them - every PVR should not only report back (anonymously) exactly how many people are watching what show, but what commercials they are skipping and which ones they are stopping to actually see. Let the advertiser's message live or die by the quality of that message; no-one watches your ad? Tough. Make a better one. (I'm talking to whoever made the current crappy "Intern" Dell commercials here)

      The networks also like to bleat on about trying to fund their shows from dropping advertising revenues. I worked on a show for years, and I can tell you that not only was money pissed against the wall, it was more often than not fed into high pressure hoses and blasted directly into the furnace. There's no way these shows actually cost these huge amounts to make. It's just from inefficiancies on set, all the way up to the top-heavy upper echelon parasites, vast amounts of production money is either wasted or siphoned off as "fees". If networks really are worried about the cost of producing these shows versus the amount of money they can recoup from selling advertising they could probably start by firing a few VPs, (for christ's sake, these people are simply content aggregators - how many "development execs" do they need to just buy shows from production companies and put em on the air?) and actually putting some damnned oversight into how their production budgets get spent.

  14. Yeah, that's what I was thinking by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    After watching the Simpsons and the 10 minutes of commercial I get from that and coming to slashdot to waste some time geeking out and seeing an ad for "OSDN personals" (WTF, by the way...) I just got the feeling that I wasn't watching nearly enough commercials.

  15. Yet Another ad America won't see by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft Windows...stability guarenteed or your money back!

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  16. Ads by mrpuffypants · · Score: 2, Funny

    Speaking of ads, my roommatte pointed out something funny about my TiVo:

    I got the tivo partly to skip ads, now I never have to watch them during the shows I record (thank GOD for the 30-sec backdoor)

    However, every week a new add will show up on the tivo main screen and I always watch those. He asked me why, if I hate ads so much, I watch the longer-form ads just because tivo wants me to see them.

    thats some Zen shit i tell ya....

  17. Ads will HAVE to become better very soon by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    don't welcome any new ads. The only good ad is the blocked/skipped ad.

    Yeah, but I hate to break it to you: you're not the majority. How many non-football fans watch the SuperBowl each year because of the commericials? A lot. That's because it's the one time of the year that you can be guaranteed that advertisers are honestly trying to catch your attention. So much of the other advertisements are bland and uninteresting. They're just not trying.

    I think as technologies like TiVo start to take off there is going to be more and more pressure placed on adverising companies to come up with innovative ads that people won't mind sitting through. The real pickle for these companies is constantly coming up with new ads that are entertaining and push the limits and still not offensive to the majority of the American public. When I was younger I often wondered why ads suck so much. Surely there are tons of witty people who could write clever ads! Why aren't they being given the chance? Well, as I grew older I started to realize that a lot of humor is actually borderline offensive to a lot of people. Or they're simply too slow to 'get' the joke. Humor is, of course, the cheapest way to construct an interesting commerical. Other ways include novel imagery but this takes more talent and, arguably, more money.

    Anyhow, I'm thinking that in the next 5 years we're going to see an improvement in the quality of advertisements to the point that they start to become entertainment in their own right. If companies do not do this, their ads are simply going to get blocked/skipped by an increasingly dissatisfied viewing public.

    GMD

    1. Re:Ads will HAVE to become better very soon by M.+Silver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So much of the other advertisements are bland and uninteresting. They're just not trying.

      It's not just that, either. It's that the same commercial gets shown every break, and occasionally twice in the same break. We have a commercial-skipping VCR, so on those rare occasions when we actually watch something non-timeshifted, we're boggled that anyone would voluntarily watch TV that way. Even when it's a decent commercial, by the fourth time in fifteen minutes it's just unwatchable.

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    2. Re:Ads will HAVE to become better very soon by pla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hate to break it to you: you're not the majority. How many non-football fans watch the SuperBowl each year because of the commericials?

      Along similar lines, I hate to break it to you but Superbowl ads do not reflect peoples' opinions of ads in general. I would tend to agree with Zangief, that most people consider most ads (excluding those rare ones such as Superbowl ads or Honda's "Cog") at best ignorable, and if possible would completely eliminate them altogether.


      I think as technologies like TiVo start to take off there is going to be more and more pressure placed on adverising companies to come up with innovative ads that people won't mind sitting through.

      I agree, and would welcome that. We even have a precedent for that, where daytime soaps (which, although I personally consider them not much more entertaining than ads, they do seem popular) started out as serial soap commercials.

    3. Re:Ads will HAVE to become better very soon by fermion · · Score: 2, Troll
      I think the ad people are already doing the best they can. It is like all content. The vast majority of it is crap. Some of it is very good. A tiny slice is excellent and becomes part of the culture. They might be able to do better if they let the creative end own the process, but then perhaps you don't end up with the hybrid needed to push products.

      As far as whether a commercial is offensive, the criteria is really whether your target market is going to react negatively, and then whether any religious of political fanatics will react negatively. For example, beer commercials can show nearly naked women all they want because it is not offensive to the target market and others that are offended really can only complain. On the other hand, a beer commercial is not going to show much male skin because it will offend the homophobic males that make up a significant portion, though not necessarily the majority, of the demographic.

      The future probably holds an increase in embedded ads, or a return to days when a single company sponsors a show. Either one will get a company exposure while maintaining a reasonable ad budget.

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  18. Re:Shit nuggets taste better than testicles?! by Basehart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw a woman get kicked out of shopping mall once for breast-feeding her baby. I was sat close by with my wife and we didn't even notice. She was just sat quietly next to her stroller feeding her kid.

    With that kind of brute insensitivity to the naked body you really expect the U.S. to show ads that just might disgust an audience that thinks breast feeding in public is perverted?

  19. The inspiration for Honda's "Cog" ad by elflet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Honda's "Cog" ad is a direct homage to The Way Things Go, a 30 minute film of an amazing kinetic art installation (here's a video clip.)

    You have to see this at least once in your life -- it's the most amazing "Rube Goldberg" contraption you'll ever see.

    1. Re:The inspiration for Honda's "Cog" ad by elflet · · Score: 2, Informative
      The best thing about the Honda "Cogs" advert, is the fact that absolutely none of it is CG

      I doubted this was true (the quality of the light is almost "too perfect") so I did a bit of looking around and found a little more about the production. Wow. (And it only took 606 takes.)

      As someone else noted, there's one bit of CG work. Quoting the Daily Record Just one second of computer generation is used to link the two halves - when an exhaust pipe rolls across the floor.

      OTOH, "The Way Things Go" is a single 30 minute take.

  20. funny == good && good > bad by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear advertising execs:

    If you're going to put ads on the air, make them good and funny. And I don't mean ha-ha-shut-up funny, I mean really funny, maybe even piss-my-pants funny (but only the first ten times). I still won't buy your product, but you could at least entertain me.

    With much contempt,
    bersl2

  21. That anti-drug ad... by vorpal22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...is just about the most intelligence-insulting thing I've ever seen. I mean, really... the truth of the matter is that the majority of widely used drugs don't cause considerable brain damage, or at least brain damage on the level that is wreaked by say, alcohol abuse.

    I think it should be banned for sheer stupidity rather than for any sort of inappropriateness.

    1. Re:That anti-drug ad... by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Brain damage is one thing, but life damage on the other hand is a whole other issue. I won't get into that, because I wouldn't want to insult your intelligence... New Zealand has never let reality get in the way of a good government sponsored propaganda advertising campaign.

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  22. one of the funniest... by quacking+duck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Won't see this in the U.S., been trying to find a download of it since coming back from Australia but no luck. Goes something like this...

    Beautiful woman is sitting at a restaurant table. The waiter delivers her drink and says "take your top off for a chance to win $10000!"

    Woman: "You're joking!"

    Waiter: "No, really!"

    Woman: "Take my top off, that's all I need for a shot at $10000?"

    Waiter: "That's right."

    Woman has her already-skimpy top off in a flash. Cut back to the Waiter with a stunned expression.

    "I meant the top off your Diet Coke..."

  23. whoa by Digypro · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about this---
    John Smith's wildly popular U.K. beer spots by TBWA star well-known comedian Peter Kay as an overweight, useless parent who uses a sausage and a beer glass to illustrate the facts of life. Only a U.K. marketer would endorse such a loser as a brand spokesman
    Umm, hello?
    Dell Dude anyone?

  24. American advertising is *really* conservative... by Goonie · · Score: 2, Informative
    Television advertising in Australia and the UK is considerably racier than in the US, and I believe the same is true in continental Europe. In fact, when I go to the states I'm constantly amazed by how much money American companies blow on such lame ads.

    I'm from Australia, and the one thing that's extremely noticeable about US advertising is the huge numbers of drug commercials. Here in Australia, advertising perscription drugs is banned (though drug companies try to subvert the ban by funding ads that say something like "consult your doctor about treating disease X" without mentioning the drug they're pushing).

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  25. Don't Forget The Puma Ads by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although they are fake, we cannot discount the highly suggestive Puma ads. Hubba Hubba!

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  26. Re:Clean coal burning by SkArcher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The main problem with coal (and Oil, for that matter) is that they both involve releasing large quantities of Carbon from geo-lock. Because Fossil fuels have been sealed away from the environment for so long the chemical balance of the atmosphere and the ecosystems in general have evolved to deal with less carbon abundance. The rate of release of the fosil fuel carbon is astounding in terms of evolutionary and environmental studies, and could have a number of long term bad effects (lower atmospheric oxygen levels on a global scale) too soon in the near future for a solution to have been devised. It is better (cleaner, cheaper, more affordable) to burn trees: modern oxidation methods can reduce carbon particulate polution to almost nil, and trees get their carbon from the air - making growing a tree and burning it again a zero delta for carbon levels.

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  27. Becks Beer Ad by mge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    one for the poms...
    Any truth to the story I've heard about a new Becks beer ad ? tagline (supposedly) goes
    you don't need to be Posh to swallow Becks

  28. Re:Shit nuggets taste better than testicles?! by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My grandmother got married a month before she graduated from highschool and had to keep it a secret or they would hav expelled her because she might corrupt the other girls. Whatever. To this day we segregate girls who get pregnant in highschool like they had some sort of communicable disease. And we still get our panties in a twist because the someone might want to marry someone who has the same genetals as them.

    The USA is incredably sexually screwed up.

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  29. No! No! Too Radical! Throw him out!!! by dejinshathe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hear and read so many people bagging on television advertisements: too many, too long, poor quality, what's the deal with tampon ads during sport, etc.

    I have a radical solution to television advertising. It has worked for me for almost 18 months now - and I think you know what's coming next...

    Throw out your television.

    Yeah, yeah - I get flamed by people irl about this too. The lady at the cigarette counter at my local supermarket told me just last night that for someone to lack a television in this modern day was "just tragic!"

    I see less shit ads though...

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    1. Re:No! No! Too Radical! Throw him out!!! by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not sure why it was the clerk's business whether you had a TV or not. You say you get flamed by people for not having a TV? Why does the subject come up if you do not volunteer the information? I hope you're not like the guy in the Onion article.

      The TV is not the problem. Keep it for the console games. It's the broadcast that is broken. Are your friends upset because your house isn't entertaining enough to them since you don't have a TV, a DVD collection, etc? That would make sense, and of course it'd be their problem and not yours.

      But I'm still trying to figure out how the subject of your not having a TV became a point of interest for the "lady at the cigarette counter."

      I'm also wondering how you got the strength to quit TV but not quit smoking.

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  30. Also not safe for work by G27+Radio · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw this Dutch ad on the Internet a couple years ago. Apparently it's an ad for English classes. That's not the only reason it would never been shown in the US though.

    Quicktime Video

  31. Japanderers by LuYu · · Score: 2, Informative
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  32. They did use CG/Editing. Honda's claims are false by HEbGb · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think that Honda, and the ad agency, is lying.

    Rob Steiner, agency producer for Wieden & Kennedy, says that not only were practical effects more attuned to the tagline of the commercial, but CG would not have done the job visually, either. "You couldn't create that type of tension with CG," he says.

    However, computers did come into play in the editing phase. Indeed, what looks to be one continuous shot is actually two, seamlessly stitched together by Flame operator Barnsley of The Mill in London.

    "Our reason for shooting it in two 60-second pieces was damage limitation, really," explains Steiner. "We knew everything physically worked." But the contraption simply wouldn't fit down the length of a single wall at the Paris studio, so half was built and filmed on one side and half on the other.

    With the intent of making the spot look like one continuous take, lighting and shadows in the studio had to look smooth over the full two minutes. Still, "due to constant movement, we couldn't even give [Barnsley] a good lighting reference," says Steiner.

  33. I beg to differ by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Ads will HAVE to become better very soon"

    Apparently you missed some of the finer points of this bit here. Why make better commercials when you can redefine the medium to require viewing of commercials? Think "Disney DVD."

    We already have the "broadcast bit" in our flavor of ATSC now, what's to stop some new standard including a "no channel surfing bit?" It would allow broadcasters to charge even more to advertisers, which they would then argue would enable more/better shows. Why wouldn't Congress let this happen?

    1. Re:I beg to differ by lelnet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >what's to stop some new standard including a "no channel surfing bit?"

      The same thing that keeps them from prohibiting TVs with an "Off" button or a removable plug-in power supply...it interferes too much with the average consumer's usage pattern, which means that no standards body or even legislative body is going to make it happen.

      Anything that interferes with how Joe Sixpack watches TV is not going to become part of American TV, no matter who might want it to. Channel-surfing has been part of that since the remote control was invented, and skipping commercials on the VCR (with the fast-forward button, if your VCR doesn't do it automatically) is pretty much there too.

  34. Actually, I found it quite lame by anti-NAT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although the idea itself was a bit novel, and hadn't been done before that I could remember, here is where it falls over

    "take your top off for a chance to win $10000!"

    Most people, obviously including this girl, would take that statement as referring to their "clothing" top. She was silly enough to take it literally - which is the lameness in the ad.

    OTOH, if he had given her the drink and said "take the top off for a chance to win $100000!", it would have worked better because the "top" became ambiguous. Still, it then becomes insulting to either that beautiful woman specifically, implying the dumb "beautiful" woman stereotype (she was brunette, if she was blonde there would have been a huge outcry), or all woman in general, as it implies they all would be silly enough abandon their dignity in a restaurant for money (and only $10 000 - I'd suggest for most people the "abandon dignity" threshold is $1 000 000).

    Now, I don't think I'm a prude, but there are two things in TV ads that I find offensive, as a (male) child of the 70s, brought up in the post feminist era :

    • Ads that imply women are stupid, as mostly they are not, and no more than men.
    • Ads where if the gender roles were reversed, there would be huge outcry that the ad is sexist. Diet Coke ads in Australia have usually suffered from this in recent years. The "a group of men sexually objectifying an attractive woman" roles have been reversed, and Coke have seemed to get away with it. Reverse it "back to normal" and the ad would have been off the screen in no seconds flat.
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  35. Oh, mi dios! El Web site pobre va a ser /.'ed by SirDaShadow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Por supuesto, todavia esta vivo

    1. Re:Oh, mi dios! El Web site pobre va a ser /.'ed by DylanQuixote · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dios mio. `mi dios' no esta correcto.

      "Ay, Dios mio! El pobre web site sera /.'ado"

  36. Re:Password Protected Bra for Office XP by Shippy · · Score: 3, Funny
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  37. They work fine in xine, too. by marnanel · · Score: 3, Informative

    The movies work fine in xine, too. I had to launch it from the command-line rather than the browser because of the weird protocol (what *is* mms, anyway?)

    Here are the commands you want, to save you digging around the page:

    xine mms://windowsmedia.dvlabs.com/adcritic/mrkippling- birth.asf
    xine mms://windowsmedia.dvlabs.com/adcritic/johnsmiths- babies.asf
    xine mms://windowsmedia.dvlabs.com/adcritic/carenz-skul l_gore.asf
    xine mms://windowsmedia.dvlabs.com/adcritic/sylvania-ro aches.asf

    and of course
    xine mms://windowsmedia.dvlabs.com/adcritic/honda-cog.a sf
    Remove the spaces Slashcode's put in the URLs, of course.

    (And there's only one P in "Mr. Kipling"...)

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  38. Re:Shit nuggets taste better than testicles?! by marnanel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sadly, that sort of thing is all too common. It varies by state, though-- for example, it's explicitly legal in Florida.

    IANAL.

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  39. if you like sexism... by Scudsucker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...look no farther than how American ads portray men and fathers. You mentioned role reversals, but the issue warrants more of a mention than that. Men and fathers are portrayed as helpless idiots, inferior parents and "humorously" subjected to violence.

    There's the add where the woman takes pictures of items so her brainless husband can find the items in the store, the Dodge minivan ad with the caption "gets more work done than most husbands", the candy bar ad where a squirrel chomps on a guys nuts, the (insurance?) ad where the guy doesn't care that he's spilled hot coffee on his crotch, and worst of all, the Progressive Insurance ad where a vindictive woman tortures her ex with a voodoo doll site - including taking a pair of wire cutters to his testicles.

    If women in this country were subjected to as much humiliation, or female genital mutilation was treated as a joke in a commercial, there would be blood in the streets and NOW would be storming these advertizing agencies with tanks.

  40. Re:Japander.com by valkraider · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nah, that was just the name of a website. THIS is a URL...

  41. Some more adds the US won't see by DroversDog · · Score: 2, Funny


    George Bush's Alternative Fuels
    Saddam's Adventure Tours of Iraq
    O J Simpson's Golf Academy
    Bill Clinton's Cigar Emporium
    Osama Bin Laden's Weapons Wholesale
    Microsofts Totally Secure Software Sale
    RIAA Free Downloads
    DVD Jon's Handmade Number Plates

    but the most anticipated for 2004 is.....

    SCO's Closing Down Sale

    Linux: Worth suing everone for!

  42. How Honda got its groove back... by frostman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Two words: Fischli & Weiss.

    'Nuff said. Look it up if you don't know.

    But OK, I can't resist, so:

    I remember when the thing came out and there was the point that they "cheated" once or twice. I believe the "cheating" was less about physics than about photography - maybe the speakers?

    In any case I hope Peter and David were paid well for this, 'cause if not then it's a rip-off of the highest order.

    Not that they'd find that a bad thing necessarily... we artists are usually tickled pink to be plagiarized by Big Capital, and it certainly doesn't hurt our prices.

    Since I live in both the "traditional" (painting) art world and the "new media" (computer/network/etc) world, I always find it amusing how people in the latter tend to be more ignorant of the former than the other way around. Even though there is always a lot of osmotic exchange of ideas between the two.

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  43. $1,000,000?!? by tgd · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd happily abandon my dignity for ten bucks.

  44. Well by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's because you have less free speech. Like when you try and call the Prince gay in a newspaper. To a US point of view those restrictions are abhorrent.

    Tim

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  45. Re:even better than The Way Things Go by babbage · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bah, an actor flubbing a line isn't neceessarily a disaster. If you think about it, people have been putting on plays for thousands of years, and as far as I know, the tradition is not, in any culture, to start over from the beginning if an actor messes up a line. Usually they just try to recover & keep going, and I'm sure that it was the same way with Russian Ark.

    That's not to say that Russian Ark wasn't interesting, but the single-take thing isn't unprecedented: Alfred Hitchcock did the same thing with Rope. That film is shown as a single, uninterrupted narrative, but it was shot in a series of 8 minute takes, because traditional film cameras can't hold any more film than that. Russian Ark got around that constraint by shooting with digital film, which can run longer than a reel of 35mm movie film.

    I think there are a handful of other examples of this, but off the top of my head I can't think of any. There are some movies shot in real time -- Gary Cooper's High Noon probably being the best example, but also recent ones like Time Code and Nick of Time. Interestingly, even though it's presented as one shot, "Rope" doesn't count as a real time story, because events are presented in an accelerated way (short dinner, fast sunset, etc) so that 100 minutes of "actual" time goes by in 80 minutes of "screen" time. But then, apparently "Russian Ark" covers centuries, so it's not even trying for that one :-)

  46. Hitler and Taiwan by That_Dan_Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I was in Taiwan there was a German company selling heaters there and the add company they hired put Hitler on the sides of busses and billboards announcing this Heater from this company would Win the War on the Cold Front!

    It didn't take long for the German company to find out and fire the add company, but that is an add you won't see in America (and sure as heck not in Germany).

  47. Re:Shit nuggets taste better than testicles?! by Prune · · Score: 2, Informative
    us as being sexually attracted to our moms.

    Freudian bullshit. It amazes me that people still say such nonsense, many years after Freud's pseudoscientific crap has been completely disproved.

    Here are a couple of good places to start: 1 2.

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  48. Doesn't matter by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to another article at AdAge.com (the same periodical as the main story comes from):

    CINCINNATI (AdAge.com) -- Recent internal research by Procter & Gamble Co. indicates that consumers who fast-forward through ads with digital personal video recorders such as TiVo still recall those ads at roughly the same rates as people who see them at normal speed in real time.
    Source: March 17, 2003

    Can't link/copy the whole article, because they charge a few $$ for it.

  49. Re:Saying something is wrong because of a words... by DynamiteNeon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As with most people who try to justify their subjective opinions, your arguments have very little objective substance.

    "Actuarial data shows that male-female married couples cause cause less loss for insurance companies, so guess what...They get better rates. "

    While it's true that married couples get better rates and may even cause less loss, I'm not sure how this applies to your argument against homosexuality. I don't suppose you have evidence to suggest that male-male or female-female unions cause more loss, do you? All you've shown is that married couples cause less loss than single individuals.

    "Marriage (as it currently exists) is a stabilizing force in society"

    "stabalizing force" is a rather subjective phrase, don't you think? Stabalizing by whose standards? I mean, divorce rates have generally hung around the same amount (between 40 and 50 percent). Doesn't seem that stabalizing to me. Besides, a recent article published by the University of Washington suggests that homosexual couples have a similar rate of relationship dissolution compared to heterosexual divorce rates (
    http://web.psych.washington.edu/news/index.php? opt ion=article&news_id=75), so even if you are right about it being stabalizing, you still have not shown any evidence to suggest homosexual couples are different.

    Of course, what you really meant to say was that it was destabalizing for you since you don't like seeing men in love with other men, right?

    "the government has to spend less money in housing and rehabilitating prisoners when society is stable."

    That statement is a no brainer, but again I ask to see your evidence that homosexual couples somehow cause more instability. The most frequent instability I can think of are the crimes commited against them by bigots, but I hardly think it's fair to blame homosexuals for that.

    "Married couples have children,..."

    Homosexuals can adopt children...

  50. Re:Shit nuggets taste better than testicles?! by zerocool^ · · Score: 2, Informative

    Stupidity can spread like a plague. Unwed highschool-age mothers are flagrantly displaying their stupidity. I wouldn't want a teenage crack addict spending time with my kids either.


    SCORE: +3 STUPID +2 IGNORANT.
    If you smoke crack, whether you're in highschool or not, it's a bad thing. I'm not saying getting pregnant in high school is good, but I am saying that I wouldn't mind my (hypothetical) 6 year old daughter hanging around a 28 year old responsible pregnant woman. Your logic is aweful.

    People get pregnant. It happens. Pregnacny is a beautiful thing. My fiancee and I have a kid on the way (she's 4ish months pregnant). We're both 22, and it seems to be the thing to think that 22 is young to be having a kid. But, we love each other, and we love the kid (already, even before birth).

    But, to compare this to crack is... just irresponsible at best, and damaging at worst. Pregnancy is a wonderful thing that has it's place and time. Crack has neither: it destroys lives and relationships. To be facing the pregnancy question a little early, and compare it to crack... are you suggesting that there's a proper time in one's life to smoke crack? That you'd let your kids hang out with crack addicts, as long as they're 30 and married? The longer I type, the less of a point I see in your arguement, and the more pissed off at you I am.

    Telling your kids that pregnant people in high school are bad, and you shouldn't hang around them, is a terrible thing to do. Often, girls in this situation need love, appreciation, and support. To cut them off because they're diseased is just wrong on every human level I know of.

    It's not possible. You can't marry someone of the same gender anymore than you can murder a dead man. The meaning of the word prevents it from happening.

    From the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 4th ed.:
    MARRIAGE - NOUN: 1a. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife. b. The state of being married; wedlock. c. A common-law marriage. d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.

    Look, the arguement is "marriage is blah, special, a sacrement, this, that, the other thing". Fine. Whatever. Call that marriage, and call equal protection for couples under the law "civil union".
    The arguement stands like thus:
    Conservative Preacher: "Gay marriage would ruin the specialness of marriage"
    Gays: "Fine, whatever, don't call it marriage. In the mean time, we have a loving, monomogous relationship, and your laws are costing us a lot of money that we wouldn't have to otherwise pay if we were like you".
    Conservative Preacher: "Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman."
    Gays: "Dude. Don't call it marriage if it makes you feel better. Whatever. But, whatever the civil, protected by US law equivilancy is, we'd like to have that".
    Conservative Preacher: "Same sexed couples cannot have children on their own, therefore they should not have be entitled to the protections of marriage."
    Gays: "How does the ability of two people to have children relate to their home loan interest rate? To their need to pay more taxes? To their need for more expensive health insurance (no children should mean less expensive health insurance)?"

    Whatever. Every arguement I've heard against gay marriage goes back to the definition of marriage, which is defined in an anti-gay religious sense. However, somehow this has been extended to the law, and it's just stupid. There are 2 parts to a union-between-two-people. One is the part that the church, god, and your parents will recognize. The other is the one that the IRS, blue cross/blue shield, and Century21 will recognize. All that most gay people want is the 2nd part, and they're even willing to not call it marriage, opting for calling it what it really is, a "civil" (or having to do with the law) "union" (partnership of two people).

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  51. Say what? by Sviams · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's morning here, and as I started reading "people upset because they won't get commercials" I figured I had gotten it all wrong and so I read it again.
    And again.

    Now, I know I'm gonna get stomped down for being a communist or something, but if I were you, I'd be quite happy not to get flooded by any more mindless brainwash designed to turn us all into happy Consumers than we already are!

    We do not need commercials to tell us what we need.