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Buying Music from Other than iTunes?
flyingember asks: "I own an iPod and use iTunes music store. It's easy and it works. My mom likes her tiny Philips Rush player, as she prefers small for her devices. Now, she wants more music, and is willing to pay for it. She runs Windows 98SE, because she likes it and work hasn't upgraded to XP, yet. Does this sound like anyone you know? Is there a service that supports Windows98, a ton of players, and has good variety? I'm willing to put up with WMA's, if compatability is there. Napster is 2000/XP only; Musicmatch does not support her player for downloads; Buymusic seems to be the same; and Emusic doesn't have the right music. Is there a legal download service for people that don't have an iPod that just works?"
http://www.allofmp3.com/ - Run out of Russia, great service (online encoding for example) and great prices ($0.01/mb) but a question about legality when used from the US.
They're fully licenced with the local RIAA equivalent, but there doesn't seem to be any info available on American legislation.
A more in-depth discussion on the site can be found at http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3info.htm
"Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner."
She runs Windows 98SE, because she likes it...Does this sound like anyone you know?
Likes Windows 98? Prefers it over more modern operating systems like Windows 2000, Windows XP, OS X, and various variants of Linux? Sounds like you have other, more pressing problems than online music...
Apple is widely rumored to be releasing a "mini-ipod" that (a) is smaller and (b) costs less than the current ones, with prices of $99 to $149 being floated around for a 2GB model and $149 to $199 for a 4GB model.
... focus of upcoming Expo keynote
Just wait and get one of those. You don't want to use a crappy service with WMA audio when in a week you can get the real thing.
Mini iPod On Apple's Plate
Mini iPods
Mini iPod Buzz...
MWSF: More Mini iPod Confirmation and Detail?
Mini-iPod Rumors
- Vincit qui patitur.
Firstly iTunes runs on Windows, however it only runs on the non-toy versions. (2k + XP). Yes I know it's designed for an iPod but you can burn to CD then re-rip them to a portable format.
Secondly Walmart now sell music downloads for 88c
Buy from Kazaa. The price is right ($0), and there are other advantages, such as standard sound files (instead of useless AAC that won't play in most players), and a much wider selection.
for god's sake, forcibly upgrade her to winXP. it's just like 98, but doesn't crash so often and it only takes about 2 hours of your time.
"she wants more music, and is willing to pay for it."
Then go to the store and buy some CDs. DUH!!!!
it seems the answer to the original question "Is there a legal download service for people that don't have an iPod that just works?" is no .
Tell your mom to go to amazon -or the like- and order cd's. Then teach her to rip the cd's. You'll always have the original in superior quality, not just crappy mp3, aac, wma or even ogg. You also get a nice case for your cd and arty little booklets. Also consider that most of the music people want is available on low cost compilations.
Even better, why don't you take your mom shopping in a local record store? Chat to some nice people with real stores instead of staying inside.
And when you come home with your cd, why don't you try that wonderful stereo system your mom surely has instead of listening to lossy recordings through tiny computer speakers or the earbuds of an mp3 player.
And if you want real luxury, buy your mom a decent record player and listen to the unsurpassed warm analog sound of all those vintage records you can buy second hand at one tenth of the price of a cd .
And if you want real luxury, buy your mom a decent record player and listen to the unsurpassed warm analog sound of all those vintage records you can buy second hand at one tenth of the price of a cd .
"In a Godda SNAP Davida SIZZLE baby POP POP. Don't ya POP SNAP SIZZLE you. In a TSSS CRACK David POP baby SNAP SNAP be POP"
Warm sound, yeah. Makes you think of bacon on a hot griddle.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
with prices of $99 to $149 being floated around for a 2GB model and $149 to $199 for a 4GB model.
Wow. This makes the replacement cost of the iPod battery higher than just getting a new iPod.
Gonna be a lot of these puppies in the landfill, you betcha.
I maybe a cloth-eared nincompoop, but CD's have always sounded MUCH better than records to me.
:)
My copy of Iron Butterfly does happen to be a very scratchy one, too
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Slighty Off Topic, but here are some more links to iPod Jr. stories. It's interesting to note that about 1/3 of the stories here don't even mention that this is speculation, and that none of this has been confirmed.
Michael C. Hollinger
Dude, I think your mom just needs a nice, Fat Dick in her mouth, and a Fat Albert in her ass. Hey, hey, hey!!!
People who stick with older computers don't do so because they're afraid of new technology. They do so because they have a tool that does the job, and replacing it means betting a lot of time and money on a new tools that might actually be less functional. That's a perfectly sane and rational attitude. Which is more than I can say about Lshmael's newness bigotry.
agreed
Fuck paying for it. I pay enough for an ISP.
Message to RIAA: Fuck you.
"as she prefers small for her devices"
What does that say about your father?
i just check cds out of the library. if you have a library system that allows libraries to share resources you can find almost anything you want, and its free. from there you can rip anything you want.
heh. trollin' is fun.
woop.woop.end.
http://www.allofmp3.com/ ... question about legality when used from the US
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What about Australia? Anyone? Oh well, I guess I'll download and see if I get arrested...
On topic, I can't believe no-one's mentioned Magnatune yet, a site I found from a mention right here on
You can download or stream all their artists in low or high quality mp3, then buy the music and download it in a variety of formats. And their motto is "We are not evil". What more do you want?
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http://active.wplus.net/copyright-monitoring/en/pr oblems.html
According to this link, Russia has signed the berne and geneva conventions on copyright. This means that they are a 'treaty partner' with almost every other country in the world, such as the USA, the EU member states.
As this is the case, and the site *is* registered with the russian copyright agency (they include the message below on their site)
All the materials in the MediaServices projects are available for distribution through Internet according to license # LS-3-03-79 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. Under the license terms, MediaServices pays license fees for all the materials subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All the materials are available solely for personal use and must not be used for further distribution, resale or broadcasting.
Just buy the CD's you want
What about buying for teenagers who choose to listen to overplayed radio bands that produce good singles but bad albums, where the bands have not been around long enough to have published a "best of" album? Buying CDs destroys the big advantage of music download stores: $13.99 for two good songs and ten nearly worthless filler is not a good price.
many of the other players don't "just work" (the second intepretation) in the same sense that an iPod does
I beg to differ. Owning an iPod player comes with a $50 per year maintenance cost of replacing the lithium polymer battery, while the other players take a slight form-factor hit in exchange for the convenience of replacing rechargeable AA-size or AAA-size NiMH cells. In addition, the threat of planned obsolescence should Apple discontinue the iTunes Music Store's compatibility with older iPod hardware.
Analog recordings are simply more faithful, warmer and brighter than digital ones.
What can "more faithful" mean other than a reduced noise floor and increased dynamic range, both attributes which CDs preserve better than vinyl over repeated plays? And what are "warm" and "bright" other than terms for the subjective effect of a bass boost and a treble boost?
anyone who has tried to listen to an mp3 through a decent hi-fi system, soon notices the deficiencies in the lossy encoding process
Do you mean "MP3" or "128 kbps MP3 you found on KaZaA"? Can you hear artifacts in MP3 even if the recording was compressed at a variable data rate with a 256 kbps target?
Mp3 and other lossy encodings are just based on assumptions about the human perceptual system.
These assumptions seem to have the support of subjective experience; they approximate correctness rather well in the newer encoders.
IIRC 98SE is the most polular operating system on the planet. I have 2 boxes and a laptop at home, all networked, the older box and the laptop (PIs) both run 98SE fine, and i have my P4/XP box when i need to do more than surf and IM.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Yes you can tell.
If it's legal for them, it's not illegal for you.
Copyright law makes the actions of copying and redistributing copyrighted works without authorization illegal.
NOT the purchase of said copies, no matter what the RIAA/MPAA would like to have you think.
This doesn't depend on which country you live in, it's how copyright works.
It's up to them (as the distributors) to have their stuff in order.
But even if they don't, there is no way you are liable.
By analogy, if the NY Times were to publish a plagiarized article (as they have, on occasion), they can be held liable for copyright infringment and damages. But by no extension of the law are the NYT subscribers liable.
They all work - however you have to be running Win2k or WinXP to run the "Corona" version of the windows media player - which is the only one that supports the latest rights management stuff. you'll have no luck with anything other than .Mp3s or Wmas ripped from a cd on the Win98SE. So you can buy the songs for her on iTunes - burn to CD and re-rip....or just let her buy real cds and rip those. Since she's doing this at work (it sounds) they prolly are in no hurry to update to XP - if they haven't yet.