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Best Way To Manage Growing Console Clutter?
An anonymous reader writes "Being the owner of several actively-used consoles, I have found myself in a perpetual state of tangled cords and controller 'land mines' when it comes to my living room. With each console supporting four controllers, and a couple of games having their own unique peripherals, this is becoming more and more of a problem. It's not so much that there isn't a place for all of this. as it is that there isn't a place that's visually pleasing, big enough to survive the growing collection, easy to use, and most importantly, cheap. I find myself having to untangle cords or digging through a box/drawer. no matter what solution I try. What have Slashdot readers resorted to when it comes to keeping all of this in check?"
You could go out and buy yourself wireless controllers. Other than those wires, the power and A/V plugs should be able to be routed through the back of any reasonable entertainment center furniture.
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Give me your consoles. You can't have console clutter without consoles.
wireless controllers. Has helped quite a bit. No longer does my dog get tangled in the cords that run from tv to coffee table, or controller cables that run from table to couch. Now the consoles can sit safely on a bookshelf on the other side of the room, with the cables all nicely hidden. My new problem is keeping up with the controllers now, its like keeping up with another remote.
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not exactly cheap, I guess, but the only way to get rid of the cord problem is to get rid of the cords
Or to have a standardized controller port (USB?) that you could plug in any controller of your choosing for any system? I would love to be able to use a PS2 controller for everything...
I have 3 consoles and a DVD player running on 1 TV. For all the AV cabling, I have a junction box which deals with that quite nicely. They run around $20 at a Best Buy or some other gaming store. For Controllers, I usually have them all stored unless they are actually in use, with the exception of my GCN. I have Wavebirds for that. I'd like to go the wireless route with controllers for the other 2 systems, but Sony and MS have yet to put out a decent wireless controller. Currently they are all IR based, which tends to be exceptionally laggy, short on range, and the controllers themselves lose the feel of the original controller. When they get a Wavebird equivilent, I'll probably grab those to deal with the rest. Oh, and for power cables, Belkin sells a set of velcro ties for cable management for $5 or so. A PC supply shop should carry those.
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If you're only using one TV, I greatly recommend you get a multi-RCA switcher, and plug all the consoles into it, and it into the TV. Then just make sure your cables are neat and the switcher is moderately easy to get to to switch to a different console.
As for controller woes, I might suggest a shelving unit (maybe a smallish bookcase). Each console gets a shelf and then lay down the law about rolling controllers up and putting them on the shelf when done. Otherwise go cordless, as others have suggested. Another thing that would greatly help is color-coding the controllers - get a couple pieces of colored tape (or paint or something) and stick some on both ends of the cord. So the first player controller gets a piece of red on the console side of the cord and the controller side of the cord. This makes finding the right controller oh so much easier than tracing the tangle.
Maybe/Maybe not an issue with the various cordless models, if they have a visible switch (for switching broadcast channels) on the top I wouldn't bother, but if it's on the back or inside (like my Firestorm PC gamepad, in between the batteries) then stick something on the front.
Each console has a single Wireless Controller if only because even having 3 chargers is a big deal in a cabinet. However, if your cabinet has a free drawer you could probably get 6-7 chargers in a 32 inch TV cabinet drawer. I don't have a whole lot of room for even chargers so having friends over to be able to use the extra 3 slots on my consoles is a big deal, so I just pull the cords outa the closet for the time being, and the ensuing spiderweb traps all from passing through the living room.
If chargers were smaller, or perhaps even controllers smaller this wouldn't be such a big deal. But having to put the whole controller into a charging station is a passive waste of space, as opposed to the active waste of space of cords (wrap up controller, store in cabinet/desk/etc etc.)
It really depends on your situation.
This begs the question: Then WTF are you doing in the games section?
I would love to be able to use a PS2 controller for everything...
You might want to try something like this then: http://www.hartsunlimited.com/supxbcon.html There are a couple of adapters available so you can use ps2 controllers on gamecube and xbox, but I haven't seen any that go the other way.
The first part is to get wireless controllers for your gamecube assuming you've got one.
The second thing you can do is get a universal adapter which runs for like $15 at radio shack. It has one output (S-Video and RCA) for the TV but 3 inputs (X-Box, GC, and PS). Simply plug the adapter into all three and you've now replaced the 3 wires going from your TV to your consoles with one.
You can get rid of consoles you don't use. For example, I think the X-box is kinda useless. Since its best two games (KoTR and Halo) are both out on PC (and there's no other good exclusive games), it's a great reason to turn it into a Linux box.
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This would never happen for consoles.
The whole idea of a console is to have a standard, fixed platform. This includes controller layout. The only way this is achieved is having every system come with the same controller.
Think back to playing PC games with gamepads or joysticks. You never know which button is assigned to do what by default. Instead you have to try and correlate the game's controls with the gamepads. It's a clumsy mess. With a standardized controller, you always know that A is accept/fire/shoot/punch/etc, B is go back/kick/drop bomb/etc. The moment you deviate from this, games get difficult to just "pick up and play" because there is no convention that makes sense.
I solved my console burden with crazy wires by buying wireless controllers. The wireless controllers make a huge difference for convenience sake, and I still am using the same batteries 4 months later on one of my controllers. It does cost money, but if you make video games your serious hobby, consider this option. I recommend Mad Catz brand for the PS2, and I would seek reviews for other console wireless controllers. Also, ask people at your local video game store, as they will likely have experience or reactions from gamers who use them.
Put. Everything. Away. Every. Time. Finished an epochal 4-way multiplayer session of Halo? Unplug all the controllers, wrap the cords up, and put them away in drawers or cabinets. Yes it takes 2 minutes, but this to me is preferable than having a tangled mess of controllers, AV cords, etc. The consoles themselves sit in a nice AV cabinet with the cables going to a switch box, with enough slack in the cables to pull the consoles out of the rack and onto the floor during use. After use the console goes back into the AV cabinet, with controllers safely stowed in drawers of the AV cabinet.
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I can currently play Atari 2600, Atari 5200, NES, Commodore 64, Genesis, GameBoy/GameBoy Color/GameBoy Advance, DreamCast, PSX, PS2, and GameCube games all using just three consoles: my Dreamcast, PS2, and GameCube. I could include the Sega Master System and NeoGeo Pocket in there, if I had games for those systems. (I don't do the piracy thing.) If I were willing to live with some slowdown, I could add the SNES to that list. There are MAME packs too, but I've not tried them and can't speak to their quality.
That's a lot of gaming from just three consoles, so I'm fairly happy. It takes some effort, though. You can read about it in my last Slashdot post which has links to all the important stuff, like modding a PS2 and how each of the emulators works.
Of course, the real solution is apparently to use an Xbox. Unfortunately, I've got qualms about doing that (see discussion here, esp. the comments below the story). Others don't.
Then again, you can also go with a tiny PC next to the TV. I'm seriously considering that, although it wouldn't get rid of the DreamCast, PS2, and GC, since they're not emulated (sufficiently well) by any system yet.
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Since you were playing video games just last night, your original post is quite hypocritical because it basically showcased the idea that no one should be playing video games, ever. You may try to shift this position slightly now but that was your original point.
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You want this. It's great for handling multiple video cables and audio cables. I've had others, but this one does component, ethernet and optical audio too! It's really great (unless your tv has 7 video inputs already that is!)
Also, get yourself a wireless controller for all your consoles, and get a nice cabinent that holds them all, so all the cables would go behind the wall unit. My set up is surprisingly clean, even though I have 3 consoles, a dvd player, a audio reciever and a computer... even the girlfriend approves! (as long as she gets to play monkey ball)
Lik sang apparently has a box that will allow you to use any kind of controller on the xbox. Magic Box It's not for everything, but it is interesting.
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I must first admit that I haven't paid much attention to any wireless controllers for the PS2 that have come out since.
But check out Logitech's Wireless PS2 Controller. Its uses the 2.4ghz spectrum, not infra-red. My receiver for the unit is always behind the 1/2" oak doors of my entertainment center. The reach is more than sufficient.
In fact, here's a quick little review:
It comes with all the features of your standard ps2 controller -- same button config, vibrations, and analog/digital controls. The controller itself is slightly larger than the normal ps2 controllers, and once in your hands feels horribly large and heavy (due to the 4 AA batteries in it). But you get accustomed to it pretty quick. In fact, because its wireless, its more or less all I use now. Its shape is slightly more open than the ps2, as well.. it kinda feels more comfortable to me now.
The fact that it uses 2.4ghz instead of 900 mhz makes a HELL of a difference in lag (push button, a second later something happens). I refused to buy a wireless controller (such as the Mad Catz controller) until something came out running at least at 2.4g. That said, there is still some lag. Nothing as bad as the 900mhz controllers I've tried, but laying fighters like DoA, Guilty Gear, etc will bring notice to the slight lapse immediately. Rythym games, some racers, and anythign else requiring spot-on reflexes are also subject to the occasional problems. It really depends on the game. I can play Robotech: Battlecry with no noticeable lag, but I have issues in REZ. Fresh batteries can sometimes help.
For all other games, it works great. Your typical platformer's are fine. I've used mine all the way through half of the Legacy of Kain games, Jak and Daxter, Devil May Cry, etc without a hitch. RPG's, of course, are fine as well.
Don't let the advertised battery life (50 hours, for the lazy) fool you. That's with EVERYTHING turned off. Analog, and vibration, and assumes you are playing a lengthy-dialogued RPG. I've change my batteries at least 5 times this past year, with RPG's accounting for about half of the game time. Playing something that involves a lot of button mashing will obviously suck the life from the controller.
In fact, that's my biggest gripe. Why oh why Logitech couldn't put Lithiom Ion batteries in this thing, and give it a cradle to recharge in every day is beyond me. Wouldn't that be perfect? Just like your modern day cordless phones. Again, playing with a fresh set of batteries makes all the difference. I know switching them out 5 or so times a year doesn't seem like much, but that's only because I am cheap and sacrifice some lag on the controller response for extra battery life. I also NEVER have the vibration turned on (I don't miss it much, but if it were fully charged every day via a cradle, it would definitely be on). Its really just a nuisance.
Mind you, keeping an eye on your battery life is no where near as annoying as cables everywhere.
I just wish I could find something as good for my beloved Dreamcast, whose controllers cables are the shortest in the world.
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Slashdot: Which portable gaming system is the best?
Asshole: Get a life, fatass, and stop playing games. Oh yeah, and I have a girlfriend!
Slashdot: New Dreamcast games available!
Asshole: Well, you shouldn't be playing videobasketball anyway! Play the real one instead, fatass! Did I mention that I have a girlfriend?
Slashdot: I have a simple question, one which, surprisingly does NOT require innane social commentary... how can I make the growing amount of wires cluttering up my console slightly neater?
Asshole: You're so fat and dumb. You've probably never even SEEN a real football before. And I'm so smart and intelligent, I'm gonna mention that I have a girlfriend, and then I'll say how I don't do lame videogame sports but I'd rather play them for REAL! Oh, and instead of playing hockey, I'm going to mention in a reply to one of my own posts that instead of following my own advice/criticisms and going out and playing a sport instead of doing a passive activity, I'm going to take my girlfriend to SEE a hockey game! The calories are just burning away! Yay!
You'll probably end up like this.
Actually, the PA guys have a section called The Hookup, which may be of some help...
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I currently have 17 console systems...all hooked up to the same tv.
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I have a wall dedticated to the tv...with the tv in the center. I put a short shelving unit on each side of the tv and my speakers on the outside. I have a cloth tacked to the back of the shelving units so that you can't see any wires from the front. My wife hates wires so I have managed to not have a single wire visible...with the exception of in-use controllers of course.
To hook them all up to the tv I have one "Parent" switch box with several "Child" switch boxes off of that. I have all my systems and switch boxes labeled very clearly so visitors know what to push to get the system they want.
For storage of controllers etc...I picked up several small plastic baskets for about $1.50 each at Target. Each basket is big enough to hold all the accessories for at least one system. I stack all the baskets on a shelf in my closet.
For power...this is the hard one...I am currently using 6 power strips...but this is something I'm fixing right now. I just picked up the supplies to make my own 60 outlet power strip. Along with the 17 systems I also have 2 computers, the tv, couple dvd players, stero, etc...
This all makes for a very clean and easy to use setup...just don't look behind the tv
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Gamestop sells something similar. I've seen it in their brick and mortar stores as well.
This shelf from Ikea (Heri) squeezes nicely into a corner and perfectly accomodates all four consoles (from top to bottom: GameCube, Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox). Pair it with wireless controllers and you're good to go.
My solution was eBay. All the kids have their Christmas dollars right now to spend, so I listed both of our Playstations on eBay. I shopped one of them out today, am still awaiting payment for the other. If you have a good portfolio of games, it helps to 'bundle' a few good ones with each console you list.
Problem solved.
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I got some hair rubber bands, pulled the entertainment center out so I could get behind it and wrapped the cables up and tied them to the exact length they needed to be to reach from the console to the TV, or console to outlet. It's not exactly a techy way to do it, but it sure looks a lot nicer than before. As for controller cables, GameCube is easy. Wavebirds are awesome, get them. As for PS2 and Xbox, I know logitech makes a decent wireless pad for the PS2, but they are very expensive at $60 a pop. I don't have an Xbox so I'm not sure if anyone is making decent wireless controllers for it.
I have approximately 12 different working consoles that I'd like to have hooked up. Switching boxes and a couple of nice deep TV cabinets will mostly do it for you, but I had to settle on four hooked up to the TV plus the Dreamcast and PC hooked up to a VGA monitor after Matrix Reloaded looked awfully green and dull due to about 8m of cable and two swtiching boxes between my PS2 and my TV.
As for controllers, I have one for each console usually sitting on top of the console itself while not being used. I disagree with the "pack everything away" approach, as you spend more time going in an out of drawers. Also, if you don't play one particular console for a while, you lose the controllers.
Anyway, my current setup isn't ideal, but given my limited space I don't mind it so much.
My solution would be to get one of those four drawer wheeled contraptions at Target or wherever. Put one console and controllers / accessories in each drawer. Put a hole in the back of the drawer for any cables that need to reach the TV / net / power. Open the drawer when playing a game, close it when your done. Outside of the drawers use cable ties to keep things tidy.
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...when is someone going to come up with a tidier solution around behind the console stack? What I want is a kind of wireless solution - you get a matched pair of modules, each at most one inch cubed; one plugs into the back of your console, the other into the back of your televison/switchbox/whatever. You get a set of these instead of a cable with every new console you buy, and can choose whatever of the many styles of output connector you want... and maybe you'd be able to tune them using a set of tiny digital switches (not an analogue dial of course)... and that way, there are NO WIRES AT ALL (except for power). Would it be so hard? You could even bring out the equivalent of ordinary SCART cables (or whatever) along those lines, and use them for your bog-standard television signal, or TV-to-VCR connections. It'd be amazing!
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