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Social Side-Effects Of Internet Use

venicebeach writes "The World Internet Project has released its third annual report on internet usage. It contains few surprises, but lots of interesing stats - for example the most experienced internet users spend an average of 15.8 hours online per week. CNN is running a story on the social findings - "New study shatters Internet 'geek' image." Apparently they are suprised to hear that internet users are more social than non-users: internet users watch less television, read more books and engage in more social activities."

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  1. Less TV == more social by glinden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering that the average American watches four hours of television per day, I'm not sure the average person has much time left for socializing. Anything that reduces the amount of TV watched, including using the Internet, is likely to improve how social that person is.

    1. Re:Less TV == more social by BlewScreen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not sure how that makes your point. If you replace an hour of TV with an hour of the Internet, you haven't exactly gained time for social activities...

      -bs

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    2. Re:Less TV == more social by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny

      And considering the average family has 2.6 children i can't imagine how they have time for any of this nonsense, since I imagine the average medical bills to care for a 0.6 child must be astronomical, typically.

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    3. Re:Less TV == more social by xSquaredAdmin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, that depends on whether you count Internet chat-rooms/IM services as social activities. If you do, then it does increase the time, otherwise, you're right.

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    4. Re:Less TV == more social by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is if posting on slashdot counts as a social activity...

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    5. Re:Less TV == more social by dustmote · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't imagine watching that much television. Now that I've finally gotten used to not watching it (for about three years now, with occasional watching when at other peoples' homes) I can't stand to watch the "evil box" for very long. Every time I sit in front of it for very long at all I become very conscious of the amount of time that I am wasting on it, time that could have been used doing so many much more constructive things. (Or just surfing the net)

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    6. Re:Less TV == more social by Rallion · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For me, the internet is a primarily social entity. I use it to communicate and to talk to people, to speak my ideas and see others. My time online is far more social than an equal amount of time in front of the boob tube.

    7. Re:Less TV == more social by jhines0042 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless you are being social on the internet.

      I organize lots of outings with my friends through e-mail. Isn't that being social?

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    8. Re:Less TV == more social by c_jonescc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except, I can surf when it's convenient to my social schedule. TV viewers are usually locked up from 7 to 11 in the evening. I think that's the most likely reason.

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    9. Re:Less TV == more social by photoblur · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the last few decades, TV became the common ground that brought much of our society together... disparate groups of people didn't have much in common, except TV. As TV began to model more and more content after our culture, we began to model our lives after what we saw on TV. Sooner or later we were bound to reach a point where life and TV were nearly interchangable... why go outside and meet people when you can just "meet" someone new on TV? And it's so much easier to "meet" someone that way.

      Thankfully, the internet came along to provide a dissenting fracture to the TV as life/life as TV spiral. The internet encourages interaction between people. The internet makes diversity within society easier to accomplish, while at the same time providing a common ground that can bring people together. As the next step in our culture's social model, the internet is a positive step forward.

    10. Re:Less TV == more social by DenOfEarth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Considering that the average American watches four hours of television per day

      What's really crazy about those four hours is that 45 minutes of it is probably commercials!! I'm not sure if that's accurate or not, but the commercials are the entire reason why I don't watch television anymore (well, except for hockey games of course).

    11. Re:Less TV == more social by daveo0331 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's worse than you think. A typical 30 minute TV show is actually 21 minutes of program and 9 minutes of commercials. That's 18 minutes per hour, or 72 minutes over 4 hours (in 1 week, that's 504 minutes = 8h24m of ads).

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    12. Re:Less TV == more social by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I would much rather my child take his cues on how to act socially from Clifford or Sesame Street than from the community in which I live. I have seen him interact with many children of different ethnicities and disabilities, and have never been embarassed by some social gaffe. I owe this to the fact that his mother and I never pointed out that being black or asian is any different than being blond or tall, and also to the fact that Barney, Big Bird, and the like always had mixed racial friends. If it was left up to my "village" to raise my "child", I have no doubt he would be an ignorant, bigoted redneck like the rest of them.

      Watching television does not reduce the sociability of a person. It can teach them how to be a reponsible citizen. I'd rather my child be in front of a TV watching Caillou than being social with the other kids while chucking rocks at the Mexican kids.

      No, it is not coincidence that the television shows I listed are on PBS

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    13. Re:Less TV == more social by dustmote · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Tell me about it. Is it just me or has television advertising gotten more poorly done and more desperate in the past five years? "Hi! Please for the love of god pay attention to me! Buy this product! Do something! Anything! Look! I'm acting crazy! I'm not making sense! Please don't turn off the TV and use the internet! PLEEEEEEEAAAASE" *click* And that's half of why I don't watch it anymore. It's all noise, no signal.

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    14. Re:Less TV == more social by lukior · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually i used to view television primarily for the news. Now what would have taken me four hours channel surfing for relevant news i can easily get in an hour on the net freeing up 3 hours for social activities.

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    15. Re:Less TV == more social by benzapp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is very true, not merely funny.

      I can't count how many times I have tried to call a friend and been told to call after show X is finished.

      Or people who don't want to go to the bar because they need to see Show Y.

      People really do plan their lives around TV, it is very sad.

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    16. Re:Less TV == more social by nelsonal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And you can cram 4 hours of TV into 2.5 hours of TiVo.

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    17. Re:Less TV == more social by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I owe this to the fact that his mother and I never pointed out that being black or asian is any different than being blond or tall

      Don't worry, someone else will teach him to be racist. I learned all about racism in my Baltimore middle school. Our black female Librarian taught all of us that there are only 2 races, black and non-black. (That is right, I learned rasicm from a black woman.) If you are non-black you are a narrow minded racist pig and you have victimized blacks for generations. Regardless of where you or your ancestors were born you enslaved black people and you owe them.

      I learned the lessons of the 70s left very well. And, my parents didn't have to teach me. Certainly not the lessons they would have taught me. The personal is political. Even today, I look at a TV commercial and identify the racial/sexual makeup of the ad and determine which group is being made fun of (usually the white male, BTW).

      Don't worry even if you don't teach your kids this, someone will come along a teach your kids how to view people as just a demographic to hate or feel sorry for.

    18. Re:Less TV == more social by shubert1966 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I killed my TV in 1998. It was because of something I noticed while watching the NFL's "Sunday Ticket". You know, you just sit around all day Sunday and watch 3 three-hour games and 2 hours of pre/post game. 11 hours of beer and football - I was sick.

      The final straw came when I noticed something. I could switch to another secondary game when mine went to commercial, and then switch back to the primary game when the commercial was over. What was important was that I just 'knew' when the commercials were over - without checking. I realized that my subconcious was counting the 2 or 3 minutes that a "TV Timeout" takes, and was telling me to return just as the fade-in occured. I tested the hypothesis for weeks, and even proved it to my friends.

      Then I remembered Pizza Delivery. As a driver, I would oftentimes knock on the door of someone watching TV. If the TV was visible from the door, I would feel the tug of my eyes to glance over at it. While I could control it rather easily - the fact that it was 'calling' to me freaked me out. It has little to do with content though.

      Programs go to commercial at given times. While commercials are often even better to view than the shows, there's a stigma attached to commercials as 'garbage'. It seems like a classic example of reward and punishment - regardless, it does condition us. Good or Bad are irrelevant at that point - just the effect was enough for me to kill it.

      Parent however, do use TV to occupy their kids. Arguably better than video games. TV is a remarkable medium, and I used to watch PBS religiously. Anymore I think their kinda bland.

      Anyway, that's my testimonial: I got rid of TV and
      1) went to 65 hours a week at work,
      2) took classes,
      3) joined a community group
      - all at the same time, and still had time to program and surf.

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    19. Re:Less TV == more social by ninel · · Score: 3, Informative
      You're pretty close. According to a PhaseOne Communications study release last month:
      the four major networks air an average of 52 minutes of promotional clutter along with their programming from 8-11 PM, up 8% from 2000 and up 36% from 1991.

      [...]

      Although networks are using fewer commercial breaks during primetime than in previous years, the average length of each break continues to rise, to an all-time high of 3.05 minutes, up 41% from just five years ago.

      [...]

      Among the four major networks, ABC ranked highest in both number of spots (152) and promotion time (54.6 minutes). FOX aired the fewest spots (130), but CBS had the least amount of promotion time (50.8 minutes). NBC had the fewest commercial breaks, but also the longest break times at an average of 3.6 minutes.

    20. Re:Less TV == more social by xankar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It may not be social activity, but trying to say something informative/insightful/funny in the eyes of others every time you post is definitely an exercise in understanding people, and thus an exercise in social skills.

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  2. 15.8hrs/week! by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's more like my daily Internet use :-)

    I wonder what percentile the average /.er is in?

    John.

    1. Re:15.8hrs/week! by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Only people who are able to be online more then
      > /.ers are probally pr0n addicts.

      Damn, my secret is out.

      John.

    2. Re:15.8hrs/week! by tedtimmons · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Also, what quantifies "internet use"? For this study, I'm assuming that means time spent in front of a web browser. Does ssh'ing into a linux box halfway across the world count? What if it's across the same city? What if it's under my desk?

      Does checking email count? What if I download my email and read it offline? What if I print out my email and then read it? (no, I don't do this, but I know execs that do)

      What if I'm at my computer, playing nethack, but I'm signed into Trillian?

  3. 15.8 hours online per *week* ?? by tuxette · · Score: 4, Funny

    Amateurs! I know people who are on for longer than 15.8 hours per day!

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  4. interesting results... by Schwartzboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    internet users watch less television, read more books and engage in more social activities.

    Next week, we'll hear that it's recently been discovered that internet users simply lie for the purposes of polls and statistics more than non-users do, and those that don't lie outright simply know how to crack the World Internet Project's records and alter their annual reports to be more favorable to the 'net-bound...

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    1. Re:interesting results... by snarkh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right. According to a new survey of internet users, more than 50% of the surveyed lie on their survey questions.

    2. Re:interesting results... by fishbonez · · Score: 4, Funny
      Mark Twain said, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." I think we need a corollary that covers surveys:

      "Surveys are lies compounded by statistics."

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  5. We've learned nothing. by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

    The credibility of information published on the Internet also received a surprising boost.

    Despite the existence of countless spoof Web sites and message boards that carry oddball political rants, more than half of Internet users surveyed said "most or all" of the information they find online is reliable and credible.


    New medium, same gullibility.

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  6. How's this for a side-effect by sugapablo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got a wife and kid now. :) Met my wife on IRC 6 years ago. We now have our first kid and have been married 3.5 years. And I probably spend 10 hours a day online. :P

    1. Re:How's this for a side-effect by Slack3r78 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahhh IRC - where men are men, women are men, and women under 18 are FBI agents. =P

  7. Re:I PLAY STAR WARS GALAXIE IN TEH NUDE!!~1` by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How is this a troll? I'd say it certainly qualifies as a "Social Side-Effect Of Internet Use".

  8. hmm by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Funny

    do D&D sessions count as social gatherings, cuz if so then sure, this works.

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  9. TV by jhines0042 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I watch less than 1 hour of TV per week. Unless I or my wife are not feeling well. Then it goes up to an hour or two per day.

    Most of the rest of the time we are working, sleeping, cleaning the house (laundry etc), hanging out with friends, reading books, watching movies, pusuing a hobby or playing games.

    The Internet gives us the content we want, when we want it, where we want it. TV just can't do that.

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  10. Not surprised. by LowTolerance · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to be an anti-social geek until I discovered the internet. Upon discovering how easy it is to communicate with people when not face to face, I learned to like people and interact with them. I was able to hide any apprehension, and by subverting this I gained real confidence in myself. This of course translated over well to the real world, and now I consider myself a people person. And no one thinks I am a geek. So this article comes as no surprise to me, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person in this boat.

    1. Re:Not surprised. by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree.

      Although I consider my self to be fairly competent when it comes to conducting myself socially IRL, when it comes to meaningful discussions the net is the way to go - even when I am talking to people I know IRL.

      From my observation, the biggest reason your confidence gets boosted when on the net is because you don't have to worry about the person's initial reaction - i.e. you don't see facial expressions, hand movements, etc. Thus, you are not continuously evaluating your "speech" to see if they care. That leaves a lot more room for confidence and attention to what you do mean to say.

    2. Re:Not surprised. by justMichael · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...I learned to like people...

      Do you have the URL for that HOWTO?

      I've been trying for years to like people and it just seems tougher than finding a decent ATI driver for X11 ;-)

    3. Re:Not surprised. by Monoliath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with you as well. I wont go as far as saying that I was once an anti social person and the internet changed that, because that isn't my case, but I can say that interacting with people across the internet is much easier than in the real world, like someone said in a post above, you don't have to deal with all of the external social scrutiny that takes place in a first time physical meeting. On the web, the interaction is purely mental, it?s almost as if it's more of a direct connection between two minds, because only language is the medium of communication, words to be more specific (body language, voice tones, facial expressions can't be mis-interpreted, because they're not there in the first place)

      On the other hand, this also creates a much larger problem, the issue of authenticity of the interaction from the ground up. In reality, we all use those conversational elements such as vocal tone, facial expressions and body language to judge the credibility of the communication, and how true it is, because this is the only character information you can gather from them at the time (apart from the actual conversation), coming from the individual. Of course, both of these scenarios would apply best to someone you're meeting for the first time, if it's someone you know, the process for calculating the credibility of what you're hearing becomes much more complicated; variables such as how long you've known the person, if they lie a lot etc, come into play.

      While the internet has made it much easier to interact and meet new people by shedding the stigmas of the social world, it also provides a much better mental rock to hide behind when wanting to swindle or mislead individuals in any case.

    4. Re:Not surprised. by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Plus, you get much more time to think about what you're going to say. Ever been in a real-life conversation where the other party tolerated a 20-second delay in your response?

  11. Aware of Current Events by TekZen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would be really interested to see a study seeking to find a link between internet usage and awareness/involvement in current events.

    Many of my friends who aren't on the internet very much are always asking me what's going on in the world. Though I am not sure if it is internet users or memigo users.

    -Jackson

  12. Uh Oh... by Wheaty18 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the 'most experienced' internet users spend an average of 15.8 hours a week online, what the hell does that make me? (Most Experienced)?

  13. is this so surprising? by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mostly this article just reinforces what I already knew about myself and my online associates. Honestly, the whole geek image has been one of stereotype since the beginning. Not everyone who uses computers and goes online frequently has thick glasses and no girlfriend, sitting around playing EverQuest all day. (This isn't an attack on EQ players, I am one.)

    Most of my friends who can be found sitting behind their computer all day watch little to no television, and spend a great deal of their time reading (I personally find e-books easier to read than real books, and do so often.) I would say the internet is a far better medium to immerse yourself in than television or radio.

  14. Liars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who is really going to answer 'I sit unwashed in a darkened room masturbating and hitting refresh entirely too often.'

    P.S. Reading books is not a social activity. What exactly are these unspecified 'social activities?' Is posting to message boards considered 'social.'

    1. Re:Liars by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      >Who is really going to answer 'I sit unwashed in a darkened room masturbating and hitting refresh entirely too often.'

      I bet if this was on a slashdot poll this option would the overwheming winner.

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  15. Social... by MP3Chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    "internet users watch less television,"
    Download the episodes...

    "read more books"
    And/or lots of Linux docs...

    "and engage in more social activities"
    Do LAN Parties count?

  16. shouldn't be TOO surprising by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unlike TV, you have to at least be able to READ to get much out of the Internet. :)

    1. Re:shouldn't be TOO surprising by miyako · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know the parent poster was intending to be funny, but I think there is a lot of truth to the statment.
      At least in the social ciricles of which I am a part , or an observer of, there seems to be a sort or line by which you can divide people into two groups. The first group pride themselves on intelligence, or at least in learning about new things, keeping up with world events, and in general being well rounded people. The other is the group which prides themselves on ignorance, these are the people who are proud that they cannot set the clock on their VCR. It is the former group which I think tends to spend more time online, seeing it as a valuable resource for information and for the communication of ideas in an open forum (be it IRC, newsgroups, /. or whatever), this is the same group which tends to read more often, and whatch less TV. The latter of the groups, while not illiterate (at least not the majority), seem to think that there is a finite amount of thinking they are born with, and are being very careful not to use it all up. This group is unconserned with expanding their own horizons, and as such have little use for the majority of the content available on the internet. It is this group which tends to spend more time watching TV, which provides a form of entertainment(if you can call most tv entertaining) that requires very little thought.
      It seems to me that everyone has some amount of time is spent non-socially. It is this time which those intent on learning and the like spend on the net, and those content to live in a happy stupor spend watching TV. Of course the average net user spends less time on the net than the average TV viewer spends watching TV because the net user has more options available to him or her. For those wishing to use their brain as little as possible, the majority of that non-social time can be spent watching tv, movies, and thats about it. For the group who likes to learn and expand their mind however, the choices for that non-social time include being on the internet, reading, drawing, playing music, and a number of other artistic or challenging activities.

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  17. Whew!! by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    the most experienced internet users spend an average of 15.8 hours online per week

    I read "offline" the first time. I thought it was an okay average...

    And actualy, I think the it's the time we spend offline that socialy affects us. I mean, how can your friends contact you if you're not on MSN??

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  18. meh...I don't like the outside world... by greymond · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I watch very little tv (no pre-set shows i watch/like)

    I read books often (1 every month or so)

    I only "go out" on weekends

    I spend the majority of my time at work chatting online and surfing the net, then I come home and play FFXI.

    Why should I go outside? I get hay fever or cold or could get in an accident. It's not warm enough to use the pool yet, and the jacuzzi is nice, but I get cold when I get out.

    I think i'll just stay in and continue my life.

  19. I am not suprised by KD7JZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the same effect that has been discussed here often. Heavy internet users are likely to be people who are interested in life. They want to learn, do new things, try new things, know how things work..

  20. Is is adjusted for SES ? by rcastro0 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Apparently they are suprised to hear that internet users are more social than non-users: internet users watch less television, read more books and engage in more social activities.
    This leads you to think that if you surf the internet you become more prone to social interactions and you read more books. However all of these things are probably related to something else.

    The article is not clear about it, but I would guess they did not adjust for Socio-Economic Segments (SES). SES would reflect mainly an individual's income and education level.

    Internet usage of course begun in the higher SES levels (having started mainly in the academic world) -- and has ever since penetrated more the top levels than the bottom ones (this has in turn given risen to the term digital divide). On the other hand, guess which SES reads more books and has a richer social experience ?
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  21. 16hrs per day (I win! =) by B5_geek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, I am in the same ball-park.
    16hrs per day (sitting in front of a PC)
    = 112hrs/week

    I wonder if that includes all the remote boxes I have going at once.

    4 SSH sessions to other servers running 24x7
    2-3 ftp sessions d'loading shareware ~ 12 hrs/day
    NewsBin D'loading newsgroups = 24x7
    BitTorrent = 24x7 (x 3 computers)
    email client is running 24x7
    various coding and design stuff = 4hrs/day

    All total I am responsible for 232Hrs/day of computer use. Man, I need a nap. =)

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  22. This fits me well... by antdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... because I have a speech impediment so I can't communicate verbally very well. Internet and BBS were a big welcome to my life. I rarely even use telephones and don't need TDD devices anymore.

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  23. Books are not by default better than TV by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I get so tired of this assumption that just because a person reads a lot, they are automatically more intelligent. I happen to read quite a bit, but I know people who spend way more time than most people watching TV, yet are very intelligent. Specifically, I know of a college professor that could out debate anyone on Crossfire, and does nothing all evening but watch History and PBS.

    Also, what's with the assumption that any reading material is automatically more valuable than any television show? I can learn more watching 30 minutes of TLC, Discovery, A&E, Biography, History Channel, or PBS than I can in spending three hours reading whatever trash Oprah is recommending this week. I do agree that reading increases vocabulary, but I would also argue that television is much more conducive to other areas of learning, as it delivers its message via sight and sound.

    As for the social aspect, many of us are forced into social situations all day long. We do not need to spend our times outside of the office, carpool, school, college, whatever to increase our social skills. However, we do need "alone time" so that we can regroup and prepare for the next day.

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  24. Baloney by tmark · · Score: 4, Informative

    De novo, given the penetration of the Net into most of the countries surveyed, I'd say the results as presented would mean nothing.

    But given that the survey comes from an Internet advocacy group (from their site : "the originators of this project believe that the Internet ... will transform our social, political and economic lives"), I'd say the results mean even LESS than nothing. I doubt such a group would put out a study saying "heavy net users are social outcasts".

    - it's nearly obvious that a person who spends 15 hours on the Net a week would spend less time watching TV - if only because that person has less hours in his day to do so. Let me see TV-watching statistics as a proportion of free time NOT spent on the Net.

    - it's also obvious that Net users are more affluent, which correlates strongly with having better paying jobs and with having higher education levels, just like say, owning a BMW. So it's more likely they're going to spend more time reading, because i) they're more likely to be literate, ii) they're more likely to need to read as a function of their work. Let me see what Net usage looks like for owners of different cars, and then let's argue about what these statistics mean.

    - because of an nearly implied level of affluence, people who can afford a Net connection are also likely to have more leisure time in general than non-Net users. It's hard to be out there socializing when you're a blue-collar joe working two jobs to make ends meet for your family of six. Do you think such a person spends much time on the Net ?

    This study is useless as presented, and I frankly don't believe it. Just look at all the TV-related love-ins (Farscape/Tivo/STTNG/Futurama/etc.) here and ask whether you really believe Net users watch more TV ON AN ADJUSTED BASIS than non-Net users. The problem is that specification of a Net user is confounded with all sorts of variables.

    What I want to see are numbers that show hours of "social" activity related to leisure hours NOT SPENT ON THE INTERNET. I bet they'd tell a different story. I'd bet that heavy Net users spend FAR less time doing socializing/exercising/being outside than people who use the Net moderately or less.

  25. Obligitory Breakfast Club Quote by HMA2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    John Bender: So it's social then. Pathetic and sad... but social.

  26. Did anyone else notice by nelsonal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much more popular radio was with experinced users than non users, in almost every case, radio was much more commonly used, more important to older (been online a long time not age) interent users than noobs. Either the old guard loves Rush, or it's just something that doesn't require eyes, but that is odd. Who'd have thought that an older technology would benefit from the rapid adoption of a newer one leaving the middle tech aced out.

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    Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
  27. Well Duh! by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apparently they are suprised to hear that internet users are more social than non-users: internet users watch less television, read more books and engage in more social activities."

    That's because I can find out anything RIGHT now by clickety clicking....rather that sitting in front of my TV and listening to the sound bite commercials from the news channells all night waiting to "find out at 10..."

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    (+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
  28. What does online mean? by T-Ranger · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I have a DSL connection at home, and I work from home. My router/firewall/server and desktop are always turned on. I always have a copy of mozilla running, and evolution is up most of the time.

    Does that count as being online 168 hours a week?

    If Im working on some programming project for, say a 4 hour streach, and Im flipping back and forth to a browser pointed at some online documentation, does that count as 4 hours online? Or (pulling a number out of my ass) is only 10% of that online?