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MIDI Keyboard/Computer: Neko64

An anonymous reader gushes "Just got back from NAMM, and saw the coolest thing for music geeks - it's a MIDI keyboard with a dual Opterons and a 15 inch touchscreen. While other vendors crow about 5 inch screens (Now With Color!) these guys have a beautiful UI on a live performance instrument that is also awesome studio gear. 4 interchangable control surfaces, and battery backup to boot! If the power cord gets yanked out in the middle of a performance, there's plenty of time to bitch out the roadie and get it plugged in without missing a beat. These guys truly Get It."

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  1. Doom? by DrInequality · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but can I play Doom on it?

    1. Re:Doom? by TechnoWeeniePas · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually you can...its just a standard PC built into the case...it runs XP behind their fancy front end.

    2. Re:Doom? by Valar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not only can you play Doom on it, but you can also play the doom soundtrack on it. So THERE.

  2. The one thing missing on all those pages... by bc90021 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...is the price.

    How much is this thing likely to cost? And since it's essentially a server and a midi-instrument all rolled into one, will anyone outside of major studios and universities be able to afford it?

    1. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by R3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      $8500 for the top of the line (Dual 2GHz Opteron, 2GB RAM)

      http://store.openlabs.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects.exe /E CommStoreFront.woa/6/wa/DSCDirectAction/descriptio n?part=neKo64762T&wosid=eq7K146htvRy2So6qmj1yq5N29 B&pageName=ECSFStoreHome&store=Openlabs&currentBat ch=0&sortBy=1

    2. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by xankar · · Score: 4, Informative
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    3. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by TechnoWeeniePas · · Score: 4, Informative

      It costs between $2245 and $8445 depending on the configuration you want.

      http://store.openlabs.com/

    4. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by aitsu · · Score: 3, Funny

      The other thing is its weight. Built-in UPS?! No longer will that old Hammond B3 have the distinction of being the roadies' single most feared, reviled, hernia-inducing instrument on the tour.

    5. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by cbreaker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering what it is, that's actually not too bad. A lot of the really high end keyboard/audio workstations are upwards of 8-10k and this one has the added advantage of being a PC.

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  3. high by name773 · · Score: 4, Funny

    These guys truly Get It.
    and the reason nobody else got it or will get it is the price.

    1. Re:high by jackb_guppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But it is called open and the talk about the its openness, until you reach the end...

      Windows XP.

      They don't totally get it.

    2. Re:high by Phs2501 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well,

      a) Windows is where the pro audio software is in Intel land. People probably want to install out-of-the-box performance software on this thing, otherwise there's really no point.
      b) It looks like the computer hardware is standard. Nothing is stopping you fom installing another OS on it. The site even says, "NEKO 64(TM) utilizes industry standard micro-ATX motherboards and processors that allow you to run standard operating systems." (Emphesis mine)

      Of course, you may not be able to talk to the sound hardware once you replace the OS. Start reverse enigneering! :)

  4. Hmm looks pretty nice by CrypticSpawn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am getting a casio keyboard on monday, but this keyboard looks really nice, wouldn't mind giving it a shot. What is the price?

  5. Oh yeah, midi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's how we pirated music a decade ago

  6. Did you actually SEE it running? by netsrek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If i remember correctly, this thing has been demoed at at least the last NAMM, and possibly the one before.

    From what I heard, it was pretty much an empty shell last year and was utter vapourware....

    Did you see it on?

    Did it boot?

    Could you do anything with it?

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  7. awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first time I ever played with Reaktor I thought to myself "damn when is somebody just going to put a PC in a synth with a lightweight real-time customizable OS (open source if possible), a big screen, lots of programmable control surfaces, and a something flexible and powerful like Reaktor?"

    And here it is .. except for the OS. Still this is pretty damn cool!

    PS: Anybody else get a chuckle out of this:

    NEKO 64? frees you from all of the frustrating limitations imposed by closed, proprietary systems, while still maintaining the virtues of an all-in-one keyboard instrument. ..later..

    NEKO 64? is so versatile it can virtually run any plugin or application designed for the Windows XP operating system including products from Steinberg, Native Instruments, Synapse Audio, IK Multimedia and many others!

    I guess their definition of "proprietary" is different than mine!

    It's probably not so important for the average musician but I hope all the interfaces are MIDI or otherwise accessible by the programmer.

  8. 128 Voice Polyphony by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thats the biggest microsoft smart phone ive ever seen!

  9. Already dieing by RobPiano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone will need to mirror this soon.

    I know there is this rift right now in the community. Some people hate laptops on stage, some people love it. I'm a big pusher of the "Powerbook"/build your own interface. I don't see particular use in incoporating my computer keyboard into my piano keyboard. I personally prefer just to put my laptop on the top. Mind you I also prefer to have 88 keys.

    This is probably a very cool toy, but I don't think its a "must have" for anyone.

    1. Re:Already dieing by Basehart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tying a keyboard to the computer isn't such a good idea for a number of reasons, the most obvious being the inability to move up to a bigger, or better, keyboard.

      In the days of the Prophet V, Emulator, Juno 106 Etc. the keyboard was a part of the whole instrument, tied in via several cables. So if you really wanted the Prophet V sound, but didn't like the keyboard, you were screwed.

      Today there are few compelling reason to having the all in one thing going on, unless you really must have an all in one unit. Just stick a couple of modules into a rack and control them using a keyboard that has the feature set, and the type of key action, that really suits you.

      Better still, just run all those synths and samplers in soft mode within a G4 PowerBook.

  10. Mediastation open source alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some linux developers have developed a similar keyboard that is based on opensource software. I haven't compared specs in detail but I'm guessing the hardware is similar based on voice count.

    http://www.lionstracs.com/

    I'm totally linux-centric (unlike most slashdotters) so I wanted to make reference to those musicians who'd like to support *true* opensource development.

    -ry

    1. Re:Mediastation open source alternative by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm totally linux-centric (unlike most slashdotters)

      I'm rich and white, unlike most Congressmen...

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  11. OpenSynth NEKO 64(tm) as in 64-bit? *hum* by danalien · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I read the '64' *green'ish* as they mean it uses 64-bit computing (if you check their other products, one would see 'a simple brand' and a 'simple + 64 added to it barnd)...and they go on to say "64 bit Processing"

    *anyway* what I wanted to say

    is how could it be 64-bit computing, if they run 'Microsoft Windows XP Professional' ?

    Am I missing something? do they run something specially licensed from M$? *something in those lines?, like 'they're running a beta of their upcomming 64-bit XP..'?*

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  12. One minor problem.... by haggar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I make music for hobby, and am married to a musician - plus, I know lots of other people that make music for a living or for fun. I know that these people are put off by the slightest alien noise, when they "work".

    And this device consumes a lot of power. Have a look at the specs: "Whisper Quiet Cooling Fans (Internal Chassis, Processor & Power Supply)"
    Well, they may be whisper-quiet, but they'll annoy all the musicians I know. Some of them have chosen iMacs for the only reason that they were quieter than anything x86. I may not be that picky with regards to PSU fan noise, but all others certainly are.

    Of course, I expect that such an expensive and complex piece of gear must have had some serious marketing and product management work done before they nailed the product specs, right? Therefore, these particular PSU fans are actually unhearable. I hope. Hmmm......

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  13. Ummm, no by Gogl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe if by "music geek" you mean "guy who knows more about computers than music". Any *actual* music geek would prefer a good, straight up keyboard: 88 keys, hammer action, weighted (at least partially, preferably fully), and minimal other crap. Maybe a pitch bend wheel or a few programmable hotkeys, but not a gigantor LCD screen and a full qwerty keyboard: that's just going to get in the god damn way.

  14. Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional by Zapdos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is listed as a feature. It will give the musician the ability to blame a virus for a missed beat.
    Did you update your keyboards anti-virus?
    Does it require MS activation?
    I do want a keyboard with DRM, just in case I need to pay some royalties for playing "Happy Birthday to You"

  15. Just got back from where? by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 4, Funny
    Just got back from NAMM
    Dude, the war ended nearly 30 years ago.
    What were you doing over there all this time?
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  16. Omg! LCD! Omg! Opteron! ... b.f.d. by cpu_fusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    - "An anonymous reader gushes"
    - "These guys truly Get It"
    - Runs on Windows XP
    - (No sound samples on the web site)
    - (May just be a "shovel us money" prototype)
    Um like ... this is news? I could like, hobble something like this together with a laptop and an old keyboard, ... could I be on Slashdot then? Please?

    and last but not least...
    It's all about the music for godsakes. If you need this piece of gear to sound good and can't do it on a freakin' roland juno-106 from the 1980s... or a piano ... please, break your hands now and spare my ears.

    (Not flamebait, and/or troll... just a musician that is sick of crap like this. It is the opposite of inspiring.)

  17. Nah...since its still under copyright... by Phil+John · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...MS(tm) DRM(tm) Clippy(tm): It looks like you're trying to play happy birthday, a tune that is still (?!?!?) under copyright. Shall I:

    a) Shut down the keyboard you filthy copyright stealing musician/terrorist (delete as appropriate, with extreme prejudice).

    or b) send $350 from your online bank account to ASCAP.

    Reminds me of that simpsons christmas special where the family are carol singing outside the lawyers house, who promptly comes out and tells to "cease and decist" as the songs they are singing are owned by his clients. ;o)

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  18. Re:Tough price point by LinuxGeek · · Score: 4, Funny
    Here's my goal for next year:
    1) Buy this thing
    2) Become a rockstar
    3) Get tons of ass
    4) ???
    5) Profit!
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    Uhhhhh, guess you weren't kidding about step #3.
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  19. For $8500 by phorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could buy a good musical keyboard, and a good PC. Actually I could do so for less than this. Other than the "wow" factor is there any real advantage to this (other than perhaps musicians who really find it inconvenient to lug both keyboard and computer around).

    Anyone here know why the high cost? Any particularly extra-special redeeming features that would make you buy it?

  20. Re:"Open" Labs? by bugbread · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're thinking "open" as in computers. They're talking "open" as in music equipment platforms. Most music equipment uses huge amounts of completely proprietary systems. Their reference to "open" means that you can buy off-the-shelf products that have no ties to the company that makes the keyboard. If you want to install Fruity Loops, Reaktor, Acid, Reason, Traktor, Logic, etc. you can. This is very VERY open when it comes to music equipment.

    And, yes, "open" has a lot of meanings. Open source, open store, open marriage, open secret. To speak of which, do they even mention "open source", or is it just a slashdot thing where readers see "open source" whenever they see the word "open"?