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United Linux Dead

DesScorp writes "ZDnet has a story about the impending demise of United Linux, with former general manager Paula Hunter stating that 'the legal entity still exists but I turned the lights out'. While a couple of reasons were given for UL's demise, most of the blame was firmly laid on the shoulders of SCO. As a member of group, their lawsuits killed off any real product development. SCO apparently refused to resign from UL, and Hunter said that 'As long as they remained a member, it remained impossible for us to begin new projects'. Which brings up the question, couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?"

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  1. Dead? by spezz · · Score: 5, Funny
    Man, I hadn't even heard it was dying. Where were the early warning trolls?

    1. Re:Dead? by sik0fewl · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's see.. here it is.

      Seems to be the only one.. and he was "just kidding"

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    2. Re:Dead? by pcraven · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too bad we can't go back and give him mod points for 'insightful' now.

    3. Re:Dead? by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 4, Funny
      How about +1 (Prophetic)?

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  2. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Instead of money going to Finland, IT managers around the world can concentrate on buying American-made Microsoft software, built by American engineers, packaged in the US and sold everywhere in the world.

    1. Re:Good by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, but America has absorbed Linus, just as it absorbed Albert Einstein, Louis Chevrolet, Werner von Braun and Janos von Neumann.

      Linux is American, don'cha know?

      All the "3) profit???" stops here.

      KFG

    2. Re:Good by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Funny

      We are America. Finland is irrelevant. Iraq is irrelevant. We will add their technological distinction to our own. They will be assimilated.

  3. SCO ploy to get "Linux Dead" in news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on, boys, that trick is as old as the hairpiece on Darl's head.

  4. Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    a beowulf cluster of dead distros!

  5. plans for future by Savatte · · Score: 5, Funny

    well, if they are dead, they should open source the code.

    oh wait...

  6. Re:Maybe by vinton · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, the No Darls Club.

  7. Don't worry United Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Howard Dean can offer an inspiring concession speech.

    BWAHAHAHAHA!!

  8. Re:Maybe by migurski · · Score: 5, Funny
    It might have just been easier for everyone else to pull out and just reform a different group at a later time.

    ...Like an open source No Homers Club

  9. Wrong terminology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Which brings up the question, couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?

    This is Slashdot. Don't you mean begs the question? ;)

  10. Alternative Group by Seek_1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why didn't the other members of UnitedLinux simply form a new, 'identical-except-for-litigating-scum' group.

    They could call it "UnitedAgainstSCOLinux"... or maybe just the "NoSCOs Club"?

    1. Re:Alternative Group by markhb · · Score: 5, Funny

      I *hope* you meant that they are violating the GPL. "Violating the GNU" brings up a whole other set of connotations, some entailing a risk of contracting anthrax....

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  11. HOW THE HELL IS THIS INSIGHTFUL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "SCO is bad", now mod me up assholes.

  12. Re: United Linux is Dead by sfjoe · · Score: 3, Funny



    A better adage:

    Put a tablespoon of wine in a barrel of shit and you still have a barrel of shit.
    Put a tablespoon of shit in a barrel of wine and you have a barrel of shit.

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  13. Re:is this SCO's fault? by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Novell pulled SUSE out of it already. Was that due to SCO or did they just not want to be part of it anymore?

    Yes.

    KFG

  14. United Linux Dead? by squidfood · · Score: 4, Funny


    Is this a support group for vampire geekheads?
    Not to be confused with Linux Dead United, the zombie penguin football team.

  15. Re:The replacement is already here by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bruce, you're trolling. How about a "this is sad, but we've created UserLinux as a viable alternative"? That would at least be a little more sensitive to those who might have an emotional attachment to United Linux.

  16. Troll Mod This! by s4m7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: UnitedLinux is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered UnitedLinux community when
    recently IDC confirmed that UnitedLinux accounts for less than a fraction of 1
    percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft
    survey which plainly states that UnitedLinux has lost more market share, this
    news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. UnitedLinux is collapsing
    in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in
    the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict UnitedLinux's
    future. The hand writing is on the wall: UnitedLinux faces a bleak future. In
    fact there won't be any future at all for UnitedLinux because UnitedLinux is dying.
    Things are looking very bad for UnitedLinux. As many of us are already aware,
    UnitedLinux continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of
    blood.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    SuSe leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of SuSe. How
    many users of Caldera are there? Let's see. The number of SuSe versus
    Caldera posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there
    are about 7000/5 = 1400 Caldera users. Connectiva posts on Usenet are about
    half of the volume of Caldera posts. Therefore there are about 700 users
    of Connectiva. A recent article put TurboLinux at about 80 percent of the UnitedLinux
    market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 TurboLinux users.
    This is consistent with the number of TurboLinux Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of SCO, abysmal sales and so on, TurboLinux
    went out of business and was taken over by SCO who sell another
    troubled OS. Now SCO is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet
    another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that UnitedLinux has steadily declined in market share.
    UnitedLinux is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If
    UnitedLinux is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. UnitedLinux
    continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this
    point in time. For all practical purposes, UnitedLinux is dead.

    Fact: UnitedLinux is dead

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  17. Lawsuits by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Which brings up the question, couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?"

    Probably fear of being sued. You know, SCO and their new lawsuit business model. Probably would have also spun it into something about the others knowing their claims are right or something.

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  18. Re:Maybe by jomegat · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah, now they'll have to form the Uniform Linux consortium, or perhaps the Union of Linux distributions, or ...

    ...or Reunited Linux

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  19. Re:SCO - "I'll just get me coat" by stuffedmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was a typo - Darl meant to say "SCO 0wnz0rs your buisness" - but spell check changed it :)

  20. Re:Maybe by Cipster · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can definitely see SCO come back with a lawsuit. "The members of the United Linux group learned our trade secrets then pulled out. We are suing for $10 billion!"

    I should not give them any ideas....

  21. The Real World? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Which brings up the question, couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?"

    Sounds like an MTV Real World episode. SCO is the bad roommate that doesn't get along with anyone and is always causing trouble.

  22. If Alfalfa was in UnitedLinux.... by flea69 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Alfalfa: Sorry Darl-a you can't become a member of the "He-man SCO haters club".

  23. United Linux is Dying by irix · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: United Linux is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered United Linux community when IDC confirmed that United Linux market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that United Linux has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. United Linux is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be Kreskin to predict United Linux's future. The hand writing is on the wall: United Linux faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for United Linux because United Linux is dying. Things are looking very bad for United Linux. As many of us are already aware, United Linux continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    SCO is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time SCO developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: SCO is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    SCO leader Darl states that there are 7000 users of SCO. How many users of TurboLinux are there? Let's see. The number of SCO versus TuboLinux posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 TuboLinux users. Connectiva posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of TuboLinux posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Connectiva. A recent article put SuSE at about 80 percent of the United Linux market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 SuSE users. This is consistent with the number of SuSE Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of SuSE, abysmal sales and so on, SuSE went out of business and was taken over by Novell who sell another troubled OS. Now TurboLinux is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that United Linux has steadily declined in market share. United Linux is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If United Linux is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. United Linux continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, United Linux is dead.

    Fact: United Linux is dying

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  24. Re:Maybe by disposable60 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Untied Linux?

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  25. whoa! by jonnystiph · · Score: 3, Funny

    Way tooooo much D&D, I saw that as the United Linux Undead. Although slightly interested, I don't think I would qualify, not yet at least....

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  26. Untied Linux? by Buskaatt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe that would be a better name for the new group.

    (tip of the hat to Gary Larson)

  27. Quick! by Tokerat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Figure that whatever SCO touches will be dead without further notice.
    Push Microsoft at them, quick!
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