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Scam Combines Patriot Act FUD With IE Bug

LostCluster writes "CNET, Reuters, and the AP are all reporting this morning about a circulating e-mail scam that claims that people will lose their FDIC bank account insurance because they are suspected of violating the Patriot Act unless they confirm their bank account information with a website. The scammers then use the already documented bug in IE that allows a site in Pakistan to get 'www.fdic.gov' to appear in the URL bar. Where's an MS patch when we really need one?"

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  1. Oh NO Mr Bill! by Dutchmaan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope this isn't what Bill was talking about with The Secure Computing Initiative

    1. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by Skiron · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe M$ said that this wasn't important to fix. Moz and all the others had it patched the same very day it was posted on bugtraq.

      Nick

    2. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by TheOldFart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There may be a point in there. Not that I would exonerate Mr. Bill, heck just the thought of it gives goose bumps... but... if you actually believe in such a bullshit email, wouldn't you be the type that couldn't tell the difference between the URL displayed and the rear end of a African sparrow? If you are the type that would check the URL, you are also the type that would take this email to be what it is and not eat it just like that.

    3. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by austad · · Score: 3, Informative

      A friend of mine got one of the emails, the text of it was very convincing and well written. Normally stuff like this has typos, but this one had a very compelling story to tell and the website for it was quite well done also.

      I can see how many people would have been suckered into providing their info.

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    4. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by berzerke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...I can see how many people would have been suckered into providing their info...

      Well, on the bright side, maybe some good will come of this. While I doubt many will wake up and suddenly realize that IE is a bad browser (like most of the /. crowd already knows), perhaps some who are ripped off might come to conclusion (for the wrong reasons, but hey, any port in storm) that the Patriot Act is a bad idea.

    5. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Moz and all the others had it patched the same very day it was posted on bugtraq."

      Moz doesn't exactly fix it. Granted, it's better than what IE does as you can see where it is really headed. However, it still sends you a misleading URL.

      "http://www.microsoft.com%01@zapthedingbat.com/sec urity/ex01/vun2.htm"

      It works as expected, but it is still not fixed. Opera, however, does actually address this issue. If you attempt to go to a URL that is formed like that, an error window appears. It says that you are trying to go to a site that has a Username in it, and it tells you specfically which domain you are trying to enter. Without this warning, Mozilla is only a little better off than IE.

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    6. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anybody can make mistakes. URLs can be quite complicated. Check out the URL in my window just for posting this reply:

      "http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=94152&op=Repl y&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=172&mode=nested&pi d=8078184"

      Most URLs these days end up looking like that. All it takes is a moment of distraction to not notice a malicious URL. It's the downside of only being human.

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    7. Re:Oh NO Mr Bill! by cwernli · · Score: 3, Funny

      The "Secure Computing Initiative" approach with this bug is documented in the Knowledge Base:

      This article discusses steps you can take to help protect yourself from spoofed Web sites. To summarize, these steps are: [...]

      • Do not click any hyperlinks that you do not trust. Type them in the Address bar yourself.
  2. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...now we're outsourcing scams to India too.

    1. Re:Wow... by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um. India and Pakistan border each other, do they not?

    2. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      So the rest of the world[1] can now interchange "America" and "Mexico", can we?

      [1] Yes, it really does exist.

    3. Re:Wow... by aulendil · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...shows your utter lack of basic geographical knowledge...
      And shows your utter lack of historical knowledge a well ;-) (and probably the parent's post too). Pakistan where a part of the crown colony India until 1948.

    4. Re:Wow... by dicepackage · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank god I played it safe and invested with a Nigerian general.

    5. Re:Wow... by Sexy+Bern · · Score: 2, Funny
      There's also more the "the rest of the world" than the Europe!

      Australia, South America, Asia, the middle East, Africa, the Arctic, the Antarctic, etc. etc.

      Is ignorance worse than arrogance?

      I don't know and I care!

    6. Re:Wow... by Sexy+Bern · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hmm. Typing and beer. Not a good combination.

      The gag, muffed up to the n'th degree, should of course have read "I don't know and I don't care".

      What an arse.

    7. Re:Wow... by xigxag · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, your browbeating an Anonymous Coward shows your utter lack of basic Slashdot knowledge. ;)

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    8. Re:Wow... by zeekiorage · · Score: 4, Informative
      From the CNET article...
      The link to the Web site provided in the e-mail message leads to a server in Karachi, Pakistan, CNET News.com has discovered. Moreover, the link is formatted to take advantage of an Internet Explorer flaw that allows an attacker to hide the true destination of the link; in this case, the address bar in Internet Explorer displays "www.fdic.gov," while the actual Web site is at a different address in Pakistan.

      India and Pakistan are two different countries, India is not even mentioned in the article. Who modded this funny?
    9. Re:Wow... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Given the current demographic trends, yes.

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    10. Re:Wow... by kgarcia · · Score: 2, Funny

      Americans... Canadians
      Pakistanis... Indians...

      What's the difference?

    11. Re:Wow... by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Given today's news stories, both of our nations need to take a long, hard look at how the rest of the world (no pun intended) must look at us.

      When I think about how people in other nations look at Americans now, I get depressed. 5 or 6 years ago, I had a lot of fun traveling around meeting people in a lot of different countries (for work). In general, they were friendly & generally had good feelings toward Americans (a few of them explained that "Americans" had an "honest" and "naive" (gullible?) attitude about life which they found appealing - apparently I fit this stereotype pretty well :-).

      The last few contacts I've had though - brrr...I felt like a low-on-the-totem-pole wannabe gang member being shunned by the "civilized" members of the school. It's difficult to tell how this new attitude toward Americans might be affecting our sales; I'm pretty sure it doesn't help. It's _really_ terrifying to hear our so-called "leaders" (and the sheeple who bleat their praises) being _proud_ of being able to cause that kind of reaction in the rest of the world.

  3. I Know Where by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's an MS patch when we really need one?

    Being prevented by the DMCA?

  4. Solution by BWJones · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where's an MS patch when we really need one?

    These solutions will solve your problem. :-)

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    1. Re:Solution by Liselle · · Score: 4, Informative

      For those of us that don't feel like switching to another OS, Opera will do.

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    2. Re:Solution by UnassumingLocalGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      And for those of us too cheap to buy a new browser, Mozilla or Firebird will have to do.

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    3. Re:Solution by jfengel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does it solve the problem? (I'm genuinely asking; I don't have a Mac around to test it.)

      The problem is that IE (and Firebird, and Mozilla) all display the URL as typed, including user name and password information. So if you type http://www.slashdot.org:foo@www.whitehouse.gov/ you get directed to a nasty site, even though the URL appears to say www.slashdot.org.

      (I don't seem to be able to reproduce the link exactly here; I think Slashdot may be removing the user name and password info.)

      The solution seems fairly simple; remove user name and password information from the displayed URL. But that's not necessarily the Right Thing, displaying a different URL than you clicked. I don't consider the problem a "bug" in the same sense that buffer overflows are a bug.

      Clearly it's a problem; I am a professional programmer and wasn't aware of this until it was pointed out to me.

      If Safari has a solution, I'd like to know it. Mac developers are pretty good about doing The Right Thing.

    4. Re:Solution by LousyPhreak · · Score: 5, Informative

      But the problem is your solutions also requires one of these upgrades.

      I would rather recomend this upgrade.

      Or if you have a dislike for linux even just this upgrade helps much.

      ;)

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    5. Re:Solution by Liselle · · Score: 5, Informative
      I hate to plug Opera twice in the same thread, heh. But if I click on a link like one you mentioned, Opera will throw up a dialog box that says this:
      Security warning:

      You are about to go to an address containing a username.

      Username: www.slashdot.org
      Server: www.whitehouse.gov

      Are you sure you want to go to this address?
      Piece of cake.
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    6. Re:Solution by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem was that if you introduced a certain character just before the @ sign, the false url (eg the one that is actually the auth detail) will be the only one displayed. The real url would be left off, and thus people would be tricked. Its interesting to note that a similiar issue has been around a fair while, as there have been scams based on it (eg "banks" emailing you, asking you to click on a link and verify your login details. Page displayed looks real as its just a copy of your banks real site, but the url has @www.scammersurl.com at the end, after what looks like valid HTTP/GET data.

      Im going on what official reports of the bug say, because I have never actually been able to replicate the effect myself, on IE5.5, IE5.5sp1, IE6, IE6sp1 and IE6sp2, so it does seem that not all installs are vulnerable, as they all displayed the fake url and the real url as you would expect in the address bar. For the record, I tried this on WinXP (just the IE6 versions) and Win2k.

    7. Re:Solution by Smidge204 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That was either some biting political commentary or a bad typo. (The real "nasty" site is .com not .gov :P)

      The REAL problem is that inserting a %01 and unescaping the URL causes IE to NOT display the URL to display as typed. Thus, it redirects you to a different site without you knowing. Only IE does this, so clearly there's a "right way" and a "wrong way" to do it and IE is doing it wrong. That's a BUG and a big security problem.
      =Smidge=

    8. Re:Solution by slamb · · Score: 4, Informative
      The problem is that IE (and Firebird, and Mozilla) all display the URL as typed, including user name and password information. So if you type http://www.slashdot.org:foo@www.whitehouse.gov/ you get directed to a nasty site, even though the URL appears to say www.slashdot.org. [...] I don't consider the problem a "bug" in the same sense that buffer overflows are a bug.

      What you described has been known for a long time and arguably isn't a bug, yes. But what they're using is a newer variation that's more dangerous and clearly a bug. If you include a %00 just before the @, only "http://www.slashdot.org" is displayed. (Apparently the display code evalutes the hex escape and treats the %00 as end-of-string, but the engine itself does not.) Your only real indication that something is wrong is the lack of the trailing "/", which you're not likely to notice even if you know what it means.

    9. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And for those of us too cheap to upgrade our Timex Sinclairs to something more powerful like a Commodore 64, Lynx will have to do.

    10. Re:Solution by zcat_NZ · · Score: 2, Insightful



      I suggest using the official Microsoft patch?


      (OK, not really the official MSFT patch since there isn't one yet; my link demonstrates the bug by providing a Mozilla download on a msft-parody download page, complete with microsoft.com url..)



      (Yeah, I know.. I'm an attention-whore..)

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    11. Re:Solution by utlemming · · Score: 4, Funny

      In other news: The Whitehouse is reported that its website, www.whitehouse.gov is under some sort of DDoS. Apparently, thousands of computers around the world are supplying "http://www.slashdot.org" as atempt to login into the server.

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    12. Re:Solution by Stalus · · Score: 4, Informative

      And sometimes on that occasion you can put "about:config" in the address bar, change general.useragent.vendor to "MSIE" and have it work anyway. MBNA recently changed their online payment system, and they're telling people to do this if they want to use Firebird. Just change it back when you're done so that the rest of the world is aware of the fact that other browsers are used!

    13. Re:Solution by _xeno_ · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You're doing it wrong. I'm assuming you're just inserting the %01 character into a URL. You actually have to sneak a "^A" character into the URL, either using JavaScript or an HTML entity. It does, in fact, work under IE6. Note that Mozilla (or at least Firebird) reescapes the bad character so it shows you the bad URL.

      Anyway, check out my sample page that demonstrates the bug.

      The basic and easiest way to reproduce this is something like "<a href="http://slashdot.org&#1;@www.msn.com/">...</a &gt".

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    14. Re:Solution by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Last time I checked you had to pay for it or it would use a large chunk of precious pixel estate for blinky banners."

      So, in other words, yes you don't have to pay a dime for it. There's a banner that sits up there. The thing is, if you pay for it, that space isn't reclaimed for anything particularly useful. I suppose you could add a bunch more buttons up at the top, but you'd be hard press to fill it.

      I paid for Opera, and had the banner removed, and went back to using it with ads because there wasn't any other real use for it. Now Opera uses 'Google Text ads', and once in a while something interesting comes along. It's not the most frequent thing in the world, but I did find out about a couple of Lightwave books that I never knew existed.

      Ads != evil.

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  5. FDIC Scam by Syntroxis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ha! Can't get my money - don't have any.

    Paul

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  6. Patriot Act by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any law which is so powerful and ambiguous as to put fear into people by its mere mention must be a bad law. A reasonable person, if accused of violating the Patriot Act, might actually doubt his own innocence because of the sheer labyrinthian might of the Act.

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  7. Still more fun with the PATRIOT act and MS bugs by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You can make your messages look like this to MS users: (PNG picture) and elicit fun responses like this, while your messages look normal to non-MS users.

    This is a combination of using simple X- header lines for the top error part, as well as the "'begin'-then-two-spaces" bug, which lets you create a bogus MIME section that only MS mail readers fall for -- useful for suppressing the message part. The begin-with-two-spaces trigger makes an excellent quoted text header. :)

    1. Re:Still more fun with the PATRIOT act and MS bugs by 1010011010 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hysterical. from the MS KnowledgeBase article:

      To workaround this problem:
      • Do not start messages with the word "begin" followed by two spaces.
      • Use only one space between the word "begin" and the following data.
      • Capitalize the word "begin" so that it is reads "Begin."
        and my favorite...
      • Use a different word such as "start" or "commence."
      Remember that, kids! Use "start" or "commence!"
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  8. Patch? by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The scammers then use the already documented bug in IE that allows a site in Pakistan to get 'www.fdic.gov' to appear in the URL bar. Where's an MS patch when we really need one?"

    Right here.

  9. 3-m@1L $c@mmz0r$ by mac+os+ken · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I will probably never understand fully why anyone would fall for an e-mail scam that is clearly not legitimate. When I get a spam telling me:

    "W3 n33d jO0r b@nk @cc0un7 # bc@u$3 FDIC $@ys $0."

    I hit delete. Unfortunately some people fall for this. Does anyone have any numbers on just how succesful these e-mails are? Is the American public that ignorant?

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    1. Re:3-m@1L $c@mmz0r$ by hchaos · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Unfortunately some people fall for this. Does anyone have any numbers on just how succesful these e-mails are? Is the American public that ignorant?
      No, the American public is not that ignorant. Very few scams are clever enough to hook the American public. Fortunately for the scammers, the American public isn't the target. Just like the Nigerian scam, it only takes about 0.001% of the population to fall for it in order to make a lot of cash.
  10. The actual article text by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a repost of the email on news.admin.net-abuse.sightings.

    The link text:

    <a href="http://www.fdic.gov@202.63.206.88/index.htm" >http://www.fdic.gov/idverify/cgi-bin/index.htm</a >

    There's no point in a slashdotting/DDoS since the U.S. connectivity provider has already choked off the flow of packets to this server in Pakistan. Pinging 202.63.206.88 times out.

  11. Perhaps it's still in "testing" by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Where's an MS patch when we really need one?"

    Apparently they are "still working on it", just like they have been for the last two scheduled patch releases they've had. Unfortunately, the scammers and phishers are "still working on it" as well. And yet despite this, Microsoft still spouts such choice quotes about its software security as "The tool had to to be tested before we could put it on Windows Update... it would be unfair to accuse Microsoft of tardiness." (about a five month wait for an official Blaster clean-up tool) and "Windows is far more commonly afflicted with worm infections than Linux... but Microsoft offers greater accountability and support than open source alternatives".

    Well, I'll agreee with one of those points. Can you guess which? ;)

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  12. IE patch by Dreadlord · · Score: 2, Informative

    A patch was released by an open source development site for this bug, unfortunately, it turned out that the patch contained a buffer overflow and malicious code, click here for the story.

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  13. FDIC issues scam alert press release by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real www.fdic.gov is running a rather standard press release to warn that it's a scam.

    Consumers never have any reason at all to send information to the FDIC. They already can get all they need to know out of banks.

  14. "Where's an MS patch when we really need one?" by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's in the same place they put their concern for their end-users. Once you find that, let the rest of us know.

    - A.P.

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    1. Re:"Where's an MS patch when we really need one?" by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can show you where they shoved it up - but trust me, you don't want to go there.

      Kjella

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    2. Re:"Where's an MS patch when we really need one?" by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I understand that these things take time. You have to fix the bug, go through developer testing, regression testing, and then build some full product for beta testing. The patch then has to be built for distribution. Except for the fix and the beta test, all of this should be automated.

      But the question can be asked, why is this such an issue. Why is the %01(SOH) character so special? Is there any reason why they can't just go into the code that filters the URL input and strip out all control codes. Being excellent coders, there should be a single routine that does this, and stripping out control codes(%01-%1F) should not be a problem. These appear to be control codes in Unicode as well.

      Unless they did something really stupid and are using these control codes for some nonstandard internal purpose. Which means that they have to slash and hack the code until it the bugs is fixed.

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  15. Your picture is in the dictionary next to gullable by DrDoombender · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dear gullableguy@aol.com,

    We are with the government. You are violating the patriot act gullableguy@aol.stupiduser.com. We just want you to go to this site and give us all your compromising information because you are violating the patriot act under provision 1234. Please go to this site otherwise you will lose your FDIC insurance coverage. Please disregard the fact that if you really were suspected, the US government wouldn't actually contact you by email, and that the patriot act doesn't have anything to do with the FDIC. Oh and we would have addressed you by name instead of your email account. Oh, and other obivious and logical stuff too.

    Best regards,

    A guy who isn't pakistani

  16. security in windows by plams · · Score: 3, Interesting

    many roads lead to a safer internet expirience. mozilla, firewalls, scriptblockers.. however, the method i've found most effective is what i call "security through some old piece of crap". my mIRC client says "copyright 1995-1998", and when I asked 50+ nerds on a channel to try and DoS me, nobody could find a crack old enough! so the lesson is: don't wait for the new patch. revert to a version before the bug was even introduced.

  17. Thank God for the Economy! by anarchima · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now that I'm unemployed, I feel more secure knowing that I have no money which can be scammed from me because of a "Patriot" Act. Thank God for the state of our Bushist economy!

  18. India and Pakistan aren't 'close?' by orthancstone · · Score: 2, Funny

    The only way they could be any closer was if they touched.

    Oh...wait, they do...

  19. Re:Question for the tin-foil hat wearers by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Informative
    I know you're trolling, but hear me out. :)

    (puts on asbestos underwear)

    The Patriot act invades the privacy and tramples the civil rights of America's citizenry by allowing the DOJ and the CIA to bypass the Bill of Rights whenever they feel like it by declaring someone a suspected terrorist, or, even better, and enemy combatant. The only thing preventing the Executive branch from using this to silence political dissidents is the enormous political fallout should they attempt it. It is, in addition, transparently racist in its implementation because it is being used to focus the eyes of law enforcement on dark-skinned foreigners, while largely ignoring homegrown terrorist groups such as the Ku Klux klan, National Alliance, Posse Comitatus, and the World Church of the Creator.

    But, if none of these issues bother you, ignore me. You probably will anyway.

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  20. I am a victim. by The+Breeze · · Score: 4, Funny

    I lost money to a similar scam, except in my case the mail came in the form of a white envelope from the "Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service." Short verison, there were papers in there wanting to know my social security number, how much I made, what I spent it on, all of the same information from my wife...and then it ordered me to give a percentage of my income to them or else they would come and put me in jail!

    I did a bit of research and found that this money had been taken from me from some group of thugs called the Congress of the United States. Apparently, they took my money and I'm told there's very little chance of getting it back.
    They've even got my employer in on the scam - now they are paying some of my paycheck directly to them.

    1. Re:I am a victim. by petabyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you plan on, at some point in the future, being old and collecting welfare through Medicare/Social Security? No? Oh.

      I have no illusions that Social Security will be there by the time I'm ready to retire (July 2047). I'm planing on being old but I'm certainly not naive enough to believe that there will be a dime left in Social Security at that point.

  21. A patch is gonna fix THIS?!? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's an MS patch when we really need one?

    Honestly, the Patriot Act is so fucked up I doubt a simple patch will fix the problem. We'd have to throw the entire thing away and start from scratch. It's not worth salvaging.

    And further more... What? Oh. You meant a patch for IE. Okay, I got it. My bad.

    GMD

    1. Re:A patch is gonna fix THIS?!? by sjames · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'd trust a patch for the Patriot Act from MS?

      "Your law has performed an unconstitutional operation. (A)bort, (R)etry, or (B)ribe?

  22. Re:Question for the tin-foil hat wearers by Limburgher · · Score: 3, Informative
    Protection from unreasonable search and seizure, right to free speech, right to free practice of religion, right to counsel. Just to start.

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  23. Nasty sight by finelinebob · · Score: 5, Funny
    So if you type http://www.slashdot.org:foo@www.whitehouse.gov/ you get directed to a nasty site, even though the URL appears to say www.slashdot.org.

    Man, I thought I was going to see some nasty Goatse-thing but then ... horror of horrors!! GEORGE BUSH!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

    That was rude, man...

  24. Virus Scanners can pick it up by Controlio · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I clicked on a funny link from a prior Slashdot thread that had an intentionally altered URL. The big shocker was, IE parsed it like it was no big deal, but my virus scanner picked up the malicious code. It warned me that the URL was modified by a bug in Internet Explorer, and allowed me to continue or back out.

    I always swore by Norton, but from the things I've seen as of late, I think I'm sticking with Network Associates.

  25. Email is no longer usable as a legitimate means... by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...of contacting your customers. Every day I get so many fake emails trying to get my paypal, ebay, banking info etc, that I no longer even look at it. All correspondence that appears to be from them simply gets binned. Even the legitimate ones, because they're indistinguishable from the fakes.

    Until we all start signing our emails with PGP.

  26. Definition of Critical by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember, it's only defined as critical if it's exploited in the wild.

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  27. Well, the combined result... by Kjella · · Score: 2

    There are scams for the 0,001% with huge payouts (bank scams, 411 scams etc., simply rip-offs)

    Then there's the scams for the 0,1% with some medium payouts (mortgages, loans etc., often poor business deals but "real")

    Then there's scams for the 10%, like cheap herbal viagra and other one-off product sales, which are just a few dollars each but large in numbers.

    Also, it's about finding the blind spot. Even people who would never normally buy SPAM but then get this wonderful offer that they just HAVE to try anyway.

    You know it yourself. You might know a good price and who's a serious actor for buying a Pentium 2.8C or AMD XP 2800+ on sight, but in other areas you're at a blank. That's where spammers come in.

    Kjella

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  28. Re:Stupidity! by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People that actually fall for this bullshit don't deserve to have a bank account in the first place. Do you honestly think the feds are gonna contact you via email to tell you that you're violating the patriot act? Go get an education.

    Lots of elderly women who outlive thiner husbands, have to deal with the finances for the first time. These people make a great targets, they are computer illiterate. They where given a computer to communicate with their family, and dont know about all the email scams. And with the new homeland security daily threat levels, it confuses them.

    Do a little research before you blame the victim.

  29. The actual text from the mail by Minus+Five · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the text that prompted me into give away my personal info :)

    Important News About Your Bank Account

    To whom it may concern;

    In cooperation with the Department Of Homeland Security, Federal, State and Local Governments your account has been denied insurance from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation due to suspected violations of the Patriot Act. While we have only a limited amount of evidence gathered on your account at this time it is enough to suspect that currency violations may have occurred in your account and due to this activity we have withdrawn Federal Deposit Insurance on your account until we verify that your account has not been used in a violation of the Patriot Act.

    As a result Department Of Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge has advised the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to suspend all deposit insurance on your account until such time as we can verify your identity and your account information.

    Please verify through our IDVerify below. This information will be checked against a federal government database for identity verification. This only takes up to a minute and when we have verified your identity you will be notified of said verification and all suspensions of insurance on your account will be lifted.

    http://www.fdic.gov/idverify/cgi-bin/index.htm

    Failure to use IDVerify below will cause all insurance for your account to be terminated and all records of your account history will be sent to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Washington D.C. for analysis and verification. Failure to provide proper identity may also result in a visit from Local, State or Federal Government or Homeland Security Officials.

    Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.

    Donald E. Powell
    Chairman Emeritus FDIC

    John D. Hawke, Jr.
    Comptroller of the Currency

    Michael E. Bartell
    Chief Information Officer

    1. Re:The actual text from the mail by mr_infiniti · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The wording and grammar are very good; very authoritative looking - almost too good for originating in Pakistan. This makes me wonder if this is an actual government form letter that perhaps was received by someone targeted by the Patriot Act, that has now been manipulated to serve their own needs. Does the FDIC actually do this to people? Is suspending account insurance part of an existing govn't process?

      I'm not centering-out Pakistan for any discrimination here, but isn't this where Osama is thought to be holed up? It would seem terribly ironic if a process meant to disable terrorists' finances is being exploited for financial gain by the same terrorists.

  30. Australias response: Commonwealth Bank by |>>? · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yesterday I received a message that appeared similar in nature to that described by the article. After many phone calls I managed to speak to the fraud section at the Commonwealth Bank (biggest bank in Oz), where the message appeared to come from.

    Their solution (after getting some of the bank staff to pull their head from the sand) was to redirect all requests to a specific URL to the Bank's home-page.

    Now I for one, think that the only way that they could do that, was with cooperation from ALL ISP's in this country.

    The scam and the banks initial response pissed me off, but the redirect scares the *shit* out of me.

    Anyone else share my concerns, or should I just crawl back into my box and live with the idea that the Internet has just died...

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    |>>? ..EBCDIC for Onno..
    1. Re:Australias response: Commonwealth Bank by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, it doesn't need very many ISPs to cooperate... just the ones that operates the trans-continental links that are between where you are and where the scammer is. They just have to set up one of their own servers to be the "bad" IP address and feed redirects, and then set their routers to intercept all traffic destined for that IP address.

      I'm pretty sure everyone who provides Internet connectivity to places that are scam havens are used to doing this.

  31. Ways around the problem. by MortisUmbra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Someones comment above made me think about how you could possibly lessen the effects of attacks like these. They mentioned that one of the US providers lines cut access to the IP in question. Indeed its no longer pingable.

    But how long does it take for word to reach them about that?

    What I was thinkingwas, a sort of P2P network client that could actively collect IP's from sites like this and, while not outright blocking them (so the next legit user of that IP isnt screwed) could at least sit in a ZoneAlarm-like position on your system and monitor the IP addresses you try to connect to, if it matches the outgoing IP to one on the list, it throws up an error like "Warning! This IP may contain fraudulent information or be dangerous to your computer, only proceed if you are absolutely certain this site is safe!".

    The P2P aspect would be nice because once new scams are caught in the wild (honeypots might be a very usefull tool to help catch them fast) users/admins could update the list (though some sort of peer review would almost certainly have to be in place to avoid abuse) and could redistribute itself amongst the network.

    Idealy this should not have to be the case, but as in the above example, its not really a "bug" per-se because if you look at it, its quite obvious what they are doing, just the same there should be some way of preventing this kind of thing reaching the uneducated masses. Even 0.001% of the pop. falling for this kind of thing is unacceptable, and will only fuel people like this.

    Anyway, commence poking my idea full of holes :) I'm sure there is plenty, its just an idea. :)

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    "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
  32. Hopefully, anyone would call their bank... by Huogo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Banks get notified of tons of things like this every day (I work in one), and all the tellers should know of the scams. Before you do anything involving your bank account, call your bank!

    We also get memos telling us NOT to let Bin Laden or Saddam open accounts... allong with a list of the US Government's top 100 most wanted. I'm still not quite sure how we're suppossed to memorize all those names...

  33. There's something else doing it too by Fez · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I first heard about this bug I put a body_check in Postfix to block messages containing the offending code. In the past 24 hours it's blocked 40 messages that tried to exploit the bug but none were this FDIC scam.

    The virus is faked as coming from "security-center@microsoft.com" and it tries to send the user to http://www.microsoft.com%01@d2341647.u35.worldispn etwork.com/update/ which loads a microsoft page in one frame and in another frame attempts to download a file of type application/hta.

    I have yet to find information about this on any of the major Virus Scanners' websites. Anybody know more about it?

    1. Re:There's something else doing it too by Fez · · Score: 2

      Hate to reply to myself, but I did find more out through actually downloading and opening the file from that site. It downloads and runs a VBScript file that writes an EXE to the root dir of C: (C:\2.exe) and then runs it.

      I'll leave actually executing the 2.exe file to someone else :)

  34. Mozilla by paj1234 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of people here have suggested Mozilla as a solution. That is a partial answer. But a proper solution has not been implemented yet in Mozilla. See Bugzilla bug 122445, "Spoof prevention: Warn if username/password in link (url) looks like a hostname". The bug has been outstanding for two years now and it's still not been fixed in Mozilla. There is a proposed patch planned to go into 1.7a.

    For the full discussion see: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122445

  35. How to shift the tax burden to trucking companies by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Right now, I feel like my taxes going towards the roads are paying largely for damage done to them by large trucks and buses.

    What's their fuel consumption compared to that of your car? Once the more efficient hybrid car models show up on the used market in a couple years, they'll begin to take off among individual drivers. Less money spent on gasoline by individuals will shift the tax burden to those who buy fuel for large trucks and buses. In addition, large trucks and buses tend to run on diesel, and the government could tax that more than gasoline.

  36. Re:Your picture is in the dictionary next to gulla by Lenolium · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're right, just check right here

  37. Re:The actual email by tsa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They start the letter with To whom it may concern. Then I would think that if they don't even know my name, why should I trust them to know anything about my account? Ergo: it's spam. There should really be a mandatory Internet Safety Course for people who go online the first time. It's easy to be impressed by letters like this but also easy to learn how to distinguish between 'trusted' e-mail and spam like this.

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    -- Cheers!

  38. INSTALL THE DAMN PATCH !!! by Vishal+Kapoor · · Score: 2, Informative

    /. users need to keep their eyes open for patches!! The patch was releasd some time back and /. did a story on it too. OpenWares.org Look for the IE patch. It was released Dec 2003 "This patch addresses a vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer that could allow Hackers and con-artists to to display a fake URL in the address and status bars. The vulnerability is caused due to an input validation error, which can be exploited by including the "%01" and "%00" URL encoded representations after the username and right before the "@" character in an URL. "

  39. That cuts it! Let's hand over control of the Web by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    to the government!

    (I'm joking, of course.)

    False-Flag actions are easy to perform, they are incredibly effective, and the people in power are usually morally bankrupt (or outright psychotic) enough to feel no guilt in performing them.

    "But they wouldn't DO that! Nobody would attack their own people! They just wouldn't DO that!"

    No? They'd very deliberately lie to get us embroiled in an incredibly destructive and expensive war which is designed primarily to suck billions of dollars out of the public purse and feed it directly into the hands of a very few greedy men. The fact that or youth are being savaged both in body and mind means nothing to such people.

    Oh, I assure you, they would do that. It's not a new idea by any stretch, and why would it be? Easy, effective, and nobody believes it could ever happen. Heck, it's what I'd do in their place. Easy. Effective. --And common! Every time somebody rips off an insurance company through arson or what-not, it's the same thing. It happens. People do it. If you think that people in government do not do it, you are a fool. Period.

    Go and do some research. Look at all the 2003 'terrorist' bombings which took place around the world, notice when each of them happened. You'll notice that at each event, a significant step toward reason was undone. A bomb goes off, and a diplomat attending a key peace talk has a reason to storm out of the room. --Or some variation of that almost every single time. Also notice how the countries attacked were nearly always ones which happen to be sympathetic towards the so-called 'terrorist' nations opposed to US aggression. In other words, ridiculous targets which do not benefit the 'terrorists', but DO benefit the US and Israel.

    My point?

    The web is just another battle ground, folks.

    A significant percentage of this web-damaging activity isn't perpetrated by private hackers or quick-money spammers. It's the covert arm of somebody's government and the aim is to increase the level of fear and uncertainty, to make people more willing to give up freedom. To make the public ready to accept a wave of lunatic arrests of so-called, 'hackers'.

    It'll happen unless people are helped to understand the true nature of these kinds of events. If people don't get angry at the wrong parties, then we might just avoid the culling of the intellectuals which always happens during a fascist take-over.

    Knowledge Protects.


    -FL