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Mars Rover Opportunity Lands Safely

JoeRobe writes "All indications are that the Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has safely landed on Mars. After 10 minutes of bouncing and rolling, it has come to a rest and transmitted its signal. There are no fault tones, indicating that there were no errors during landing and rolling. The rover has landed in the Meridiani Planum, where there are large deposits of hematite, indicating the presence of past water. The lander has landed on one of its side petals, so the next step is to make itself upright and deflate its airbags." And loconet writes "Reuters and abc.net.au, among others, are of the first news sources to confirm that Opportunity has successfully landed on Mars. The probe had successfully made contact with controllers on Earth after landing at 0505 GMT on Sunday in an area of the planet known as the Meridiani Planum. The landing procedures achieved a best-case scenario on which all systems performed as expected. At first, engineers thought the lander had been rolling for a long time, but it turns out the antenna used to communicate with Earth was pointing towards the ground, which made the signal bounce off Mars and as the Earth moves, made it seem as if it had been bouncing for over 5 minutes. The lander is currently side petal down, and will take a while before it straightens itself out. California's governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ex Vice-president Al Gore were in attendance at the event in the JPL facilities." Many readers also wrote to point out the coverage at spaceflightnow.

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  1. Sweet. by The+Human+Cow · · Score: 4, Funny

    The next band I form is going to be called Meridiani Planum and the Opportunities.

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    The Human Cow - bringing you scrumtrelescence since 1995
  2. Opportunity and Spirit by Gunfighter · · Score: 4, Funny

    NASA should set Opportunity on a course to make the 6600 mile trek and kick Spirit's ass for acting up. A little sibling rivalry can't be too bad.

    Reminds me of the old botwar games where you program your bots (rotate, move, or shoot) and watch them go at it.

    --
    -- Stu

    /. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
  3. go fix Spirit! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hurry and go press control-alt-delete on Spirit!

  4. How Long? by darkjedi521 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How long before the two rovers drag race each other?

  5. Thanks from NASA by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, as a software engineer on MER, I must say that I and my collegues are all thrilled to see yet another success! NASA's Mars program has needed a success like this, and we are thrilled to get yet another chance to explore Mars.

    I would like to thank all of the other engineers and scientists that have worked on this mission... many of which worked untold hours of unpaid overtime to do the things that the budgets couldn't afford (and that the mission couldn't live without).

    I'd like to thank the leaders of our nation for giving us the resources to accomplish this feat, and their support politically.

    But most importantly I'd like to thank the public for their interest, excitement, and moral/fiscal support. We're doing this for you and your children, that they might understand the universe better. Thanks for all of the fans out there!

    Oh, and if you haven't already, now is a great time to grab Maestro, NASA's public science tool for visualizing mars data (which I helped to develop).

    What a great night!

    Cheers,
    Justin Wick
    Science Activity Planner Developer
    Mars Exploration Rovers

    1. Re:Thanks from NASA by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good on ya', Justin, but isn't it a bit premature to be calling this a success?

      Though there are challenges on mars each new day, every inch of ground we take, every meter of atmosphere we penetrate, every bit of data sent back is indeed a success of modern science, engineering, and planning. There can be no doubt about this. Many critics of the space program (not that I suggest that you are one of them) do not realize the tremendous number of things that must go precisely right for a mission to go well.

      We have landed a working vehicle on mars, and have received communications from it. That alone is, without a doubt, worth celebrating.

      Yes there are many more things that must still be done, and perhaps we will fail at one or more of those. But tonight we have succeeded, and that cannot be taken away from us.

      Cheers,
      Justin Wick
      Science Activity Planner Developer
      Mars Exploration Rovers

    2. Re:Thanks from NASA by marcushnk · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just to let you know what sort of effect you guys have on the world.. I'm watching your guys right now on live web cast.. from Perth in Western Australia, and I gotta say.. I'm damned impressed with your accomplishments..

      Well done guys and congrats..

      --
      "Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
    3. Re:Thanks from NASA by QuantumFTL · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just to let you know what sort of effect you guys have on the world.. I'm watching your guys right now on live web cast.. from Perth in Western Australia, and I gotta say.. I'm damned impressed with your accomplishments..

      Well done guys and congrats..


      Austrailia has been a wonderful friend to the US, and the Canberra installation has been invaluable to many space missions. Thanks for all your help from down under!

      Cheers,
      Justin Wick
      Science Activity Planner Developer
      Mars Exploration Rovers

    4. Re:Thanks from NASA by Docrates · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, tell you what. The impact that this acomplishment is having ripples well beyond the US. I'm a Panamanian (from Panama in Central America, not the FL one) and I've been looking at the webcast all night (when NASA TV decides to broadcast since they cut off shortly after the thing landed instead of just letting the feed on)

      I've been following the whole thing very closely to a point where I've neglected some other duties. I'm just fascinated by it and would expect a hell of a lot of people all around the world feeling the same way.

      Congratulations and thanks on behalf of humanity.

      --

      There are two kinds of people in the world: Those with good memory.
    5. Re:Thanks from NASA by Frymaster · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Congrats on conquering the death planet :). Two for two. Nice job NASA/JPL!

      mars isn't the "death planet" - that moniker is reserved for venus:

      • surface temperature of 480c
      • surface pressure of 96x earth's
      • clouds of sulfuric acid

      now that's a death planet... and yet the soviets managed to drop a lander on it successfully way back in 1982 and even sent back some pictures

  6. They didn't even lose the signal! by Robotbeat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apparently, they didn't lose the signal from the rover all the way down like they did on Spirit. The Deep Space Network was able to see the signal from all the way from chute opening to contact. Also, the "bouncing" (which really wasn't) look of the signal is because of interference between the two signals coming to earth from the rover. Since both signals are heard, they had a "beating" effect, like the sound of two notes that are almost, but not quite, the same, which caused the signal to appear to change amplitude in a regular, periodic pattern (which looks like it's rolling).

    1. Re:They didn't even lose the signal! by Robotbeat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hope you aren't trying to imply that this is somehow faked, like how people foolishly think the moon landing was faked, in which case I would give you a lecture of how "rediculously ignorant that is" and how "we would be better if people didn't act as if everthing is a conspiracty."
      So, assuming that is NOT what you meant, I will give you a good answer:

      The Deep Space Network is a world-wide network of radio dishes that NASA uses for sending and receiving communications from (you guessed it) craft in deep space. Some of these dishes are 70 meters in diameter! NASA said that "all eyes are on Mars," refering to this network, so all the resources of this network were focused on Opportunity. Also, the Opportunity rover had been transmitting just a simple signal, not a complex TV signal. Therefore, using some pretty well-written signal processing software, the Opportunity rover's signal was recognized, yes, all the way from Mars. It's not an easy thing, as you seem to understand, but JPL and NASA and the folks from the DSN are quite capable and have years of experience with such things.

  7. I Love this by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the first time in my life I'm feeling completely amazed at the things we are finding out today. The space program is so exciting, finally we're pressing on to something we really don't know about. The re-envigorated space program, along with exciting news in robotics, make me feel like we're finally moving into the future.

    There's no point here, I just felt the need to gush

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    Look it's a joke about my sig IN MY SIG! LOL!
  8. Bouncing by loconet · · Score: 5, Informative

    More information on BBC and Space.com.

    NASA TV is also broadcasting the Opportunity briefing with NASA officers as well as EDL Developers. A must see for interesting facts on what happened during entry.

    To the people responsible for this great achievment once again, great work guys and thank you.

    --
    [alk]
  9. Ahem... by Locky · · Score: 4, Funny

    While overseeing the landing of Oppurtunity, Al Gore quipped to the NASA engineers that he actually invented the propulsion engine.

    1. Re:Ahem... by bullitB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait a minute. Before anyone else corrects you, I think I should.

      Al Gore only said he took the initiative in creating the propulsion engine. And a very high up guy who once worked at JPL but now works as a stock option holder at a large defense contractor can back that up.

  10. Re:Hematite by Robotbeat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I believe that there are about 4 to 6 different ways of forming hematite. All but one happen only in the presence of water. The other way is through vulcanic means. With the vast assortment of tools on these rovers, it should be definitely possible to find out whether it was formed vulcanically or not. So, there you go!

  11. Gov Schwarzenegger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its nice to have someone who has actually been to Mars congratulate the team at JPL. I'm sure he has lots of stories to share.

    1. Re:Gov Schwarzenegger by Rallion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, man. This is making me laugh so hard, now that I've gotten to thinking about it. I can just imagine him standing there, looking at screens...beginning to get angry..."Yowa rova is wrong! That is not Maarz!"

  12. flip side by tsunamifirestorm · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The landing procedures achieved a best-case scenario" and the worst case.... landing directly onto Spirit

  13. Clever tactics by wrmrxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    NASA have employed a very cunning plan - send Spirit as a decoy, wait until they're sure the Martian army are screwing around with it, then land Opportunity on the opposite side of the planet.

    1. Re:Clever tactics by zome · · Score: 4, Funny

      If those martians fall for this, then it's obviously they've never played Warcraft II.

  14. Errr... by calmdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now what does a hermaphrodite have to do with finding water? Oh ... wait, never mind.

  15. Fresh crater by photonic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Congrats to JPL, i can't wait till the pictures arrive in a few hours. I am now watching the briefing on NasaTV and it seems they landed some 24 miles downrange from bullseye, probably not because of navigation error, but a due to strong winds. This is still ok for the science, which is aimed mainly at a region of some odd minerals that have something to do with water.

    Slightly OT from the Opportunity landing, but has anybody seen the amazing picture made by Mars Global Surveyor? They not only can see Spirit itself from orbit, they also located several bounce marks, the parachute, the backshell and the heatshield! I have to look up the resolution again, but judging from this picture they achieve better than 1 meter after some image processing.

    These pictures gave me the following idea (assuming Spirit will get healthy soon): Since the plan was to drive to big crater in the top right of the first image anyhow, why not drive to the impact location of the heatshield. Since this came down without a parachute, it should have dug a pretty deep hole. It is thus possible to study a fresh crater that is only 1 month old!

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    karma police: arrest this man, he talks in maths; he buzzes like a fridge, he's like a detuned radio. [radiohead]
  16. Re:Hematite by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google told me about this Powerpoint, from the horse's mouth. Apparently, the conceivable mechanisms for hematite formation are:

    I) Chemical precipitation - extensive near-surface water

    1) Precipitation from ambient, Fe-rich water (oxide iron formations)

    2) Precipitation from hydrothermal fluids

    3) Low-temperature dissolution and precipitation through mobile groundwater leaching

    4) Surface weathering and coatings

    II) Thermal oxidation of magnetite-rich lava

    I guess it's just that many of the possible mechanisms for hematite formation involve the presence of water. Though I guess thermal oxidation of magnetite in lava doesn't necessarily. Presumably they want to either rule that possibility out or identify whether the hematite in fact indicates recent or distant past presence of liquid water in the area.

  17. Re:Hematite by Nichen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hematite is formed by sediments. Since a primary way of sediment creation is by water, it stands to reason that the presence of hematite is a possibility that water is/was there. I don't really know the mechanics of how it's formed (not a geologist), but from it's molecular formula of Fe2O3, I'd imagine that the water combines with iron to form it.

    Some links about hematite's composition and how NASA thinks it'll lead to indications of water existence:
    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y200 1/ast28mar_1 .htm
    http://www.mindat.org/min-1856.html
    http:// www.minerals.net/mineral/oxides/hematite/he matite.htm

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    Demona's Law - "User data expands to exceed available bandwidth." ("User data" being pr0n, mp3's, vob's,
  18. Re:Hematite by core+plexus · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm an exploration geologist, so I may be qualified.

    When acid-rich water comes in contact with sulfidic rock Fe bearing bodies, such as pyrites, it takes up some of the iron (leaching), which water then, being iron laden, comes into contact with a favorable deposition environment, then then iron drops out. Geochemistry is very complicated here on Earth, and I'd love to get a chance at some off-world geology.

    On Earth, there is a suggested analog: THE TINTO RIVER BASIN: AN ANALOG FOR MERIDIANI HEMATITE FORMATION ON MARS? (*.PDF)

    Alaska Bugs Sweat Gold Nuggets

  19. Schwarzenegger: "GET YOUR ASS TO MARS" by TheMonkeyDepartment · · Score: 4, Funny

    As Gov. Schwarzenegger watched the landing from JPL, he commanded the scientists: "GET YOUR ASS TO MARS!"

    A reporter reminded Gov. Schwarzenegger that "You blabbed Quaid! You blabbed about Mars!" Schwarzenegger ignored the remark, responding "I've never even been to Mars! What the fuck did I do wrong?"

    Later that evening, Schwarzenegger pleaded with Cohaagen to increase the oxygen ration on Mars, by saying: "Giff des people eair!!"

    Finally, he shot his wife, Sharon Stone, through the head, closing the press conference by saying "Consider dat a divorce!!!"

  20. Spare Parts by core+plexus · · Score: 4, Funny
    On a more serious note, could future unmanned and manned missions take advantage of the stuff we have dropped on Mars? Send up a collection bot, hopefully it won't crash, and then it collects all the parts while mapping/surveying, and then another bot lands and builds something out of the parts. I ask this because any little nut and bolt is extremely valuable in proportion to the distance from a replacement. After paying $400 for some bolts to be brought to a remote location, I can't guess what a good screw would be worth on Mars.

    Alaska Bugs Sweat Gold Nuggets

    1. Re:Spare Parts by spare.dave · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I can't guess what a good screw would be worth on Mars" After a few months in space, all alone on another planet with no way off... Tell me, in those conditions what WOULDN'T a good fsck be worth?

    2. Re:Spare Parts by stwrtpj · · Score: 4, Insightful
      On a more serious note, could future unmanned and manned missions take advantage of the stuff we have dropped on Mars? Send up a collection bot, hopefully it won't crash, and then it collects all the parts while mapping/surveying, and then another bot lands and builds something out of the parts.

      I think a better idea is to leave all those old probes exactly where they lay. Being the optimist that I am about space exploration, I really believe we'll eventually colonize the planet. If this is the case, I'd like the old landing sites to be preserved just as they are. Perhaps build space history museums around them, or some of them can become part of the town square or something of a community.

      Naturally this assumes that Mars is not too harsh on these old probes and there will be something left to look at, since it will likely take a long while before colonization of the planet becomes technologically and economically feasible.

      --
      Karma: Frotzed (mostly due to the Frobozz Magic Karma Company)
  21. Re:No thanks from Mars by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny
    Are you going to just leave this thing here? This is private property!


    As soon as we finish drilling in your rock garden we'll roam off. Keep the heat shield and air bag with our compliments.

    --
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one the bus load of girls just went down.
  22. Wanna know what I think? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    I find all this Mars coverage to be a pleasant distraction from the redundant SCO nonsense. I hope NASA starts testing their warp drive soon.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  23. Salvage Rights by core+plexus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That brings up a question: Who has salvage rights to that stuff? I remember an old law of the sea where if you find an abandoned vessel you could salvage it, and mining claims are also that way in many countries. I know of the various Treaties that seem to prohibit ownership of extraterrestrial property, but does that include parts of landers and failed devices? When the Shuttle disintegrated and the parts fell on Texas, the U.S. Government prosecuted anyone who collected a part and did not turn it in. Of course, Texas is on Earth, in the U.S. The Moon, Mars, etc. is a whole nother country. Speaking of stuff crashing into planets, this is the anniversary of The COSMOS 954 Accident

    Alaska Bugs Sweat Gold Nuggets

    1. Re:Salvage Rights by rijrunner · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The US government.

      Salvage rights do not apply to government owned vessels and equipment.

      A good case in point would be the CSA Hunley. Even though it's government no longer exists, all of the CSA's naval assets were transferred to the USA as part of it's surrender. So, when they went to salvage it, they had to get permission from the US government. Same applied to the CSA Alabama.

      In space, it is even more restriction as the Space Treaty automatically make the national government the owner of record for anything constracted by it's citizens or corporations. It has not been run through and courts yet, but it might get a little wierd as things start picking up.

  24. Re:How to deal with time lag by WhiteBandit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well the 7 second delay you are speaking of in terms of radio is artificially induced to catch callers and other people on the air from using swear words or anything else deemed inappropriate by the FCC.

    A comparison I heard fairly recently while studying radio waves and the speed of light:

    If there was a symphony being performed at Carnegie Hall (New York City) and it was being broadcast live over the radio, someone listening to the performance on the radio in Los Angeles would actually hear the sound before someone sitting in the back of Carnegie Hall! Interesting take on speed of light versus speed of sound.

    Anyway, this was slightly off topic. Forgive me ;)

  25. Re:Reality Check by BTWR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your resoning is flawed:

    1. Let's say, for argument's sake, there was no 9/11 and no subsequent wars. We'd have (at least) $87 billion more in the budget. So in that parallel universe you believe that homeless people are all living in co-ops?

    2. I do believe there were quite a few impoverished people before the founding of NASA. The creation of NASA did not take a sandwich out of a homeless guy's hand.

    3. Velcro, GPS, Cellular Telephones, discovery of the ozone hole which arguably launched the widespread efforts to fix our planet, Tang :), and rocketry as a whole were all results of NASA innovations (not to mention within-the-next-decade cancer drugs and other crystaline drugs they are experimenting with in zero G on the ISS eventually). And no, we didn't decide to send men to the moon to create pocket-phones, but low and behold it's an offshoot. Who can possibly tell what else we have to find out there?

    4. And... does everything in your mind have to deal with profit? So, if we find unlimited diamonds and platinum on Mars/Asteroids/etc, then it's worth it? If it's "just a few microbes thus PROVING we are not the only inhabited planet in the universe" then it's no big deal?

    5. Lastly (I could be wrong on this one - if this is the one I mess up then fine), I believe GWB wants to lower taxes (not that I agree with lowering them either, but I'm just correcting you on that...)

  26. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

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  27. A few Spirit links about flight software by Deton8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I found a few flight software links about the two Mars craft... it's normal that little of this information is put on the web due to ITAR regulations...

    PDF of a powerpoint about static analysis of the code

    First and second links from GCN magazine.

    And here is a chatty JPL page showing the key team members and their personal reflections

    Some technical briefs on the science payload can be downloaded here or here

    A list of Cornell's scientists and their bios etc is here

    Here is an article about another software guy.

    A cool technical power point about the computers, only available on google cache, is here

    And lastly, a technical comparison of today's rovers against something called Fido.

    I simply don't know what I did before Google!

  28. Re:One question about their mission control tech: by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 4, Informative

    Disclaimer: I work at JPL, but not on the Mars rovers...

    Why don't they automate the mission control tech a bit more...

    General observation about JPL and NASA: they're slow to adopt new technology. This is a good thing. They tend to wait until a particular technology is very mature and clearly useful before adopting it in a mission-critical environment. Individual scientists and engineers are welcome to experiment with all sorts of cutting-edge tools for number crunching, visualization, simulations, etc. - and they do - but mission-critical technology is kept deliberately as simple as possible.

    (a) voice comm may still be useful, but why not use IM for a group of people to "chat." Is the voice feed for the media?

    Honestly I think that voice communication is far more efficient - most people can talk faster than they can type, and when you know the other person you gain more information from their tone of voice, etc.

    (b) why not "follow the procedure" with some online, multi-user app that checks off the steps done on some browser sort of app? The engineering specs have to be changing up to the last minute; why commit to paper something that becomes obsolete once you press Print?

    I can think of many reasons:

    1. KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid): If you relied on software to make sure you were following the procedures, that software now becomes mission-critical. The software has to be totally foolproof. It takes about 10x as much effort to write robust, clean, documented, verified code as it does to toss off a quick web app.

    2. An online form or "procedure wizard" couldn't possibly be smart enough to anticipate any possible deviation from the rules that might be necessary.

    3. With rules printed on paper, you can spread them all out in front of you. You can circle things with a pencil. You can make corrections or notes.

    4. You don't have to waste valuable computer screen real-estate. Even though many of the mission people have 2 or 3 monitors, they want every last pixel displaying interactive real-time information, not opened to a web browser displaying a list of rules.

  29. Images and Excitement by QuantumFTL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow, what can I say? I'm in building 264 here at JPL and it's way past our bed time, but that's not stopping everyone from enjoying the new images! The enthusiasm here is just incredible; I've never been so on the edge of my seat as I was as I waited for my script to automatically bring up the first image processed from Mars.

    Steve Squyres (the principle investigator) is quite excited about the position of the rover... It's insane how many geologically interesting features are nearby the rover, especially considering it was a safe landing site. To quote the press conference, "It's like trying to land in Oklahoma and hope to find the Grand Canyon." It's simply amazing the details we are seeing on even the most compressed of images!

    Geologists are excited, engineers are excited... Even people that don't know anything about geology (like myself) realize how important it is to find outcroppings like this... allowing us to see the stratigraphy of the local site... looking back millions of years into the past, it's incredible! I personally hope that we RAT the outcroppings. We're already seeing some hints of layering there... hmm...

    But most exciting of all is the chance, as Steve Squyres mentioned, that we could be inside a crater. That would be an incredibly awesome place to start... The chance to study craters up close will be invaluable to our future interpretation of cratered worlds.

    Once again I cannot get accross how cool all of this is. Thanks so much to all of you out there who are interested in this stuff... even if it is just which OS the rover runs :)

    Cheers,
    Justin Wick
    Science Activity Planner Developer
    Mars Exploration Rovers

    1. Re:Images and Excitement by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Informative

      before anyone gets excited because of "Justin Wick"'s signature, realize he is not really a NASA scientist but a little intern guy.

      The above poster is correct. I state clearly in my Slashdot info that I am a university student. I have been working on MER since I was a freshman, and I have spent the last 3 years developing portions of the GDS software used by the scientists. (GDS = Ground Data Systems). I am one semester away from my degree in Applied Physics.

      Yes, I am an intern, however I have been doing this long enough as to actually have some idea of what I am doing. When I post in a semioffical capacity, I try to stay within my realm of expertise, or synthesize information that was stated previously by someone who knows what they are talking about.

      I'm merely trying to provide some "insider" views to slashdot. The big guys on the mission tend to have a few better things to do than post to slashdot, so I do :)

      Cheers,
      Justin

  30. Re:Was this posted from Mars..? by mlyle · · Score: 4, Informative

    For more good stuff, go to my site...

    Featuring COLOR IMAGES from Opportunity, before JPL has made them available. (By aggregating 2/5/6 filters together to simulate what the human eye would see).

    Also, there are stereo anaglyphs up of the lander.

  31. First Color Photo is up! by BTWR · · Score: 4, Informative

    First Color Photo is here!

  32. Re:2 for 2 by judicar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually i think the count is more like

    Mars: 28 Earth: 9

    I think the Soviets set the record for most failed mars missions in row. Their first 12 missions failed taking nearly 14 years to get a successful mission in 1974 with Mars 5.

    They don't call it the death planet for nothing.

  33. I had the privilege by rk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    of watching the images returned by MER-B with a fairly prominent planetary geologist tonight, and what he had to say was "That ain't no [expletive deleted] lava flow."

    The next couple of weeks are going to be very interesting, folks. And who said the Meridiani site was going to be boring?

    Time to go to bed.

  34. Re:Viking missions easier than Spirit & Opport by ultrasound · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Rocket Assisted Decent motors used on the current landers are designed to bring the landers almost to a complete stop (ie ~zero vertical velocity) a few feet or 10s of feet above the surface. However there can be very strong winds on Mars. The landing site and time of the Viking lander was highly restricted to very flat, boring, featureless areas with low wind speeds to minimise the risk of sideways movement on landing leading to it getting smeared across the landscape.

    The addition of air bags means there is a much greater range of safe geography that can be explored because the final phase of the decent can safely occur even with large horizontal and vertical velocities at parachute release.

    Obviously even with this system it is prudent to avoid regions with lots of crevasses and cracks as it would be rather a shame if it bounced along the surface and ended up jammed in a crack and unable to open.

  35. Re:Was this posted from Mars..? by mlyle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Any that incorporate infrared will render it purple-y. The blue chip is very reflective in the infrared spectrum.. and with 2 for most of the red value, infrared is incorporated into it.

    That's why it's called pseudocolor, because the redpoint is off by 30-60nm depending on exposure. It doesn't mess things up much except for things that have a ton of infrared reflectivity. I also have "nearcolor" pics that take L2/3/4/5/6 filtered pictures together and combine them to be really close perceptually what people would see. But there have not been any qualifying sets of images downlinked from Opportunity yet, nor will there be many. (L3/L4 aren't so useful for science, so it's only things that they're really interested in that they take pictures with all filters---and that thus I can do it for).

    See nearcolor pics near the top of my site.

  36. Re:Thats a plaent you are talking about by Mr2cents · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wrong, spirit's landing site is known to within half a metre: check it out yourself if you don't believe me.
    But even with this knowledge, current technologies don't have the landing precision to land near to the rover. Opportunity landed 24 km from the target spot, spirit 13km IIRC. Those are considered very precise landings. And if you would send a rover that could drive 24km say in a few weeks, why bother trying to fix a rover that will only be driving 100m/day (and I'm being optimistic here).
    I think it would be cheaper trying to cover the martian soil with lego bricks (if you get a large volume discount:)).

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