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US Govt Makes Times New Roman 14 Official Font

pollux03 writes "According to ABC news, 'In an internal memorandum distributed on Wednesday, the department declared "Courier New 12" - the font and size decreed for US diplomatic documents for years - to be obsolete and unacceptable after February 1. "In response to many requests and with a view to making our written work easier to read, we are moving to a new standard font: 'Times New Roman 14'," said the memorandum. ' The report goes on to cite a few exceptions to the rule including official telegraphs."

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  1. Exceptions by Joe+U · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are only three exceptions to the draconian new typographical rules: telegrams, treaty materials prepared by the State Department's legal affairs office and documents drawn up for the president's signature, it said.

    As those will all be done in the MS Comic Font.

    1. Re:Exceptions by Drathus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget about the "Super Secret" communications.

      'Encrypted "Super Secret" communications will be done with Wingdings 16'

    2. Re:Exceptions by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget about the "Super Secret" communications. 'Encrypted "Super Secret" communications will be done with Wingdings 16'

      This message is in violation of the DMCA for circumventing encryption techniques.

    3. Re:Exceptions by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, the private communications are made with wingdings+rot13

      Oh wait

    4. Re:Exceptions by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      And all documents from the Department of Homeland Security should be formatted in 16 point "Spooky" font. Preferrably in red.

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    5. Re:Exceptions by Jim_Maryland · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think the color for DHS will be different depending on the document importance:

      Regular - Green

      Limited Distribution - Blue

      Post-It Notes - Yellow

      Secret - Orange

      Top Secret - Red

    6. Re:Exceptions by GreggBert · · Score: 2, Funny
      No, the private communications are made with wingdings+rot13...

      rot13, twice (for good measure) !

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    7. Re:Exceptions by torpor · · Score: 1, Funny
      You forgot, erm... one more:

      • - White - Bullshit

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  2. Damn. by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had my money on 20 point Dingbat.

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    1. Re:Damn. by buckinm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only if Dean gets elected.

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    2. Re:Damn. by Tassach · · Score: 5, Funny

      The 20 point dingbat, with any luck, will be voted out of office this November.

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  3. in further news, by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Funny

    the government declared- thumbtwiddling is now the offical activity to perform when you cannot think of useless directives.

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  4. Yes by 0x54524F4C4C · · Score: 1, Funny


    It's time for the new rome to fall.

    1. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is a Troll. Overseas, the US is oft referred to as the "New Roman Empire". Please mod down.

  5. some liberial reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    "New Roman Times"
    Long live the empire.

  6. Times New Roman? Yuck. by adamvjackson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would think Verdana or Tahoma would be a much better solution. Times New Roman is SOOO Windows 3.1! :)

  7. Sounds like somebody was slacking on their essays. by Manhigh · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are they using 1.1 inch margins and 1.5x line spacing too?

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  8. How appropriate by jxs2151 · · Score: 5, Funny
    "...are moving to a new standard font: 'Times New Roman..."

    How appropriate since we are apparently the New Rome .

  9. Re:What about by PhotoBoy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Shhh, Wingdings is the new crytographic encoding method for top secret documents, replacing the good old double-ROT13 encoding used during the Cold War.

  10. The real reason by ArcticPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The word "Oil" is often misintepreted as "Weapons of Mass Destruction" when written in Courier New 12.

    1. Re:The real reason by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Funny
      The word "Oil" is often misintepreted as "Weapons of Mass Destruction" when written in Courier New 12.

      Ever wondered why the Bushies did not use the name 'Operation Iraqi Liberation'?

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  11. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by Wateshay · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a jobs program, to help out all of the unemployed fontographers, put out of work by the dot-com bust.

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  12. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by HMA2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Be thankful. It is a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. :)

  13. This is more significant then you think by peripatetic_bum · · Score: 1, Funny

    Think about it, up until now it was courier but now it is times New ROMAN. This fits with the new view of the US as the Roman empire and sends a subtle but unmistakable message to everyone exactly how the US is to be addressed and in what way. Dont think that the word courier was originally french has nothing to do with it.

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  14. Sign of the Beast by burgburgburg · · Score: 2, Funny
    Of course, in it's efforts to create it's counterfeit kingdom here on earth, the Beast has given further evidence of his attempt to reconstitute the Holy Roman Empire, using the Times New Roman font.

    No wonder the 5 evil acolytes selected him.

  15. Re:14 point? by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 4, Funny

    Old guys don't see very well anymore.

  16. Telegrams? by illuminatedwax · · Score: 5, Funny
    There are only three exceptions to the draconian new typographical rules: telegrams

    Telegrams?! They still use telegrams? If so, where can I still send one from? I'm sure a telegram to a Senator might get more attention than a letter and certainly more than an email. Plus sending telegrams sounds cool.

    --Stephen

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  17. This just in. by jghiloni · · Score: 5, Funny

    In related news, the US Government changes the official resolution of all desktops to 640x480, 256 colors.

    1. Re:This just in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oddly enough, most government employees that I've seen tend to leave their monitors at the default resolution....640x480, 16 bit, @60 Hz. They then complain that they can't see enough, and are given 21" monitors...that they continue to run at 640x480 @60 Hz...

  18. Obligatory Welcome by pc-0x90 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new roman time overlords

  19. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by b17bmbr · · Score: 2, Funny

    actually, i am typing this on the school's computer in my classroom, so, technically, yes, taxpayers are paying me to argue!!

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  20. Re:Encrypted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, but terrorist too, ZM"Qoo

    try it using Wingdings

  21. Students Rejoice! by phathead296 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, students around the country rejoice. Now, they can use US Governement official font to turn a two page paper into three pages.

  22. Real reason for the change... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The President was tired of receiving official documents that ended with the ASCII art version of goatse.cx.

  23. Re:14 point? by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Re:14 point? why so big? isn't 10 the default standard for most written communication?"

    Most likely aggressive lobbying by the pulp and paper industry.

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  24. Re:Won't somebody please think of the trees!!! by AnonymousComrade · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to mention the vast amount of disk space that would be saved by using a smaller font!

  25. Re:US State Department by mekkab · · Score: 2, Funny

    You expect information from the headline.

    wait no, scratch that;

    You read the headline.

    God bless slashdot.

    Actually, I don't read the headline, NOR the actual article. I just come to post some smarmy tripe.

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  26. Re:Telegrams? by tommck · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seems a little obsolescent.

    Or even obsolete! ;)

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  27. Re:Telegrams? by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Funny
    Telegrams would also have more of an impact because of the use of "STOP" to terminate lines of messages.

    Dear Senator. STOP.
    Please consider the following things that should be changed. STOP.
    -The RIAA. STOP.
    -Microsoft. STOP.
    -The war in Iraq. STOP.
    -The Patriot Act. STOP. No, stop. STOP. I mean seriously, stop it now. STOP.

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  28. And in Related News... by fuzzybunny · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the department of homeland security recently adopted Zapf Dingbats as its official font.

    Should clear up their communiques a bit.

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  29. Not Garamond? by MuParadigm · · Score: 5, Funny


    Times New Roman instead Garamond? What were those aesthetically clueless dingbats thinking?

    That's it. I've completely lost faith in our government, and political processes in general. If they can't ascertain Garamond's clear superiority to TNR, well, they'll just have to impeached, that's all.

    And sent for serious rehabilitation. And re-training, with those methods used for de-programming cult victims.

    I mean, seriously, TNR over Garamond? I ask you...

    1. Re:Not Garamond? by MuParadigm · · Score: 3, Funny


      People have to *read* these documents! Subjecting them to the ugliness, the aesthetic horror, that is Times New Roman, is either depravity or at the very least, an incidence of putting pennies before dollars. What will the medical costs be of subjecting the world to Times New Roman simply to save a few cents in producing government documents?

      This is an outrage, I tell you! Think of the children!

    2. Re:Not Garamond? by MuParadigm · · Score: 2, Funny


      I blame the French. If only Bill had renamed Garamond to something less French sounding, "George" maybe, or "W", then you *know* it would be the standard font.

      It's the simple tactic of putting putting petty international rivalries over self-interest, over simple aesthetic need, that we see time and time again from this government.

      I'm sick it, sick of it I say.

      Oh god, Times New Roman... I just... I can't...

      ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!

      (slurping sounds of a man being sucked inot an evil vortex...)

    3. Re:Not Garamond? by jrockway · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why not computer modern, then? If you've ever read a document written in Computer Modern, you won't be using anything else anytime soon :)

      I don't think people even bother to read LaTeX'd documents, they're so beautiful that you just look at it and drool.

      (For a while I had the window titles and mozilla using CM, but it's HEAVILY optimized for print, so I stopped using it for that)

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  30. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by Wateshay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Interesting!?!?!?

    It's not Interesting. It was a freakin' joke!! Geez...

    Sorry for replying to my own post...

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  31. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by joebok · · Score: 3, Funny

    When my dad was in the Navy there was a cost-cutting initiative to reduce wasted paper. Somebody noticed that there was a lot of blank space around the edges of typed text and decided that the best way to reduce these margins was to use 8 x 10 1/2 inch paper.

    It was abandoned when they figured out the special sized paper was more expensive. My dad still has a ream of the stuff.

  32. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2, Funny

    The big question is, What font did the memo use?

  33. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by BlowChunx · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was probably a bunch of government employees doing the moderation...

  34. You do know what this means? by azaris · · Score: 3, Funny

    No more ASCII art in official US government memos.

  35. Re:Your tax dollars at work. by MCZapf · · Score: 2, Funny
    Would you rather have your State Department send out documents to other nations with the old-fashioned-looking Courier font, or, worse yet, no standard font at all? It's nice to appear to be organized, at least. On the other hand, we'll look like a country of blind people sending out 14pt documents to everyone.

    BTW, as others have pointed out, this is not a government-wide standard, just a State Department one.

  36. One thing that they forgot to mention... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that all US government reports now have to have to be accompanied by "the correct cover sheet". Oh, and all White House press conferences must have at least "fifteen pieces of flair".

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    1. Re:One thing that they forgot to mention... by Werelock · · Score: 2, Funny

      You see, the thing is, you forgot your TPS report. You did get the memo that we're using those now, right? I'll just send it to you again just to make sure you understand.

  37. Other important news: by hoggoth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Today the U.S. Government has issued these equally important directives:

    1) All federal employees must tie their shoelaces using a right-over-left Ian knot.

    2) Handwritten ampersands must be of the official '&' variety and not the 'sloppy plus' variety.

    3) Toilet paper must be folded, not crumpled.

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  38. Dubya by hellfire · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 20 point dingbat is actually running the country, so maybe you should collect on your bet.

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    1. Re:Dubya by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Funny

      It isn't smart to talk about Karl Rove like that!

  39. What about... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about the official font for college freshmen? TNR 14-point is fine when you sort of know something about the topic of the paper you're writing, but TNR 20-point will happily fill the 3-page requirement of the paper.

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  40. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1, Funny

    we work all day, to pay their salaries, we do this on our spare time, they do it on work hours.

    ok,ok, i am at work too :]

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  41. Re:Resistance is futile. by byolinux · · Score: 3, Funny

    In 12pt Courier New, War Was Beginning...

    What happen!!

    Someone set us up the Times!!

    What!!

    We get bigger!!

    New Font Turn on!!

    It's Huge!!

    How are you gentlemen!!
    All your document are belong to us!!
    You have no chance to survive, make your change!!

  42. blind gov't by oohp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always said governments were blind and this futher proves it. I could read Times New Roman 14 from space.

  43. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by FaasNat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dammit! You're right. We should also get paid for this.

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  44. Re:i was ahead of my time, when i worked for DoD!! by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    How did he respond to your suggestion that lowercase letters at the beginning of sentences and for the pronoun "I" should be acceptable?

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  45. You *work*? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...we work all day...

    10 posts on Monday, 4 so far today... You work? I want your job...

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  46. Like it's 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We have always been at work with Eurasia.
    We have always used Times New Roman 14.

  47. It's a CONSPIRACY, Itell you, a CONSPIRACY... by qtp · · Score: 2, Funny

    See, it all makes sense now! "New Times Roman".

    "New Times" == "Changing Times" == "New World Order"

    And what kind of "Order"? Roman law, the law of Empire, the end of the Republic, the... the...

    Well, at least they didn't choose Comic Sans. I'd hate to think what kind of world that font would be ushering in.

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  48. Re:14 point? by jsebrech · · Score: 2, Funny

    why so big? isn't 10 the default standard for most written communication?

    I find it kind of ironic that the only people using times new roman 14 will be government employees and high school students trying to fill at least two pages with text.

  49. Homeland Font Set 1.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    16 point "Spooky" font

    Naa... it's all in 14-point NSA Redacted Font, with random unredacted words just to peak your curiousity.

    We have XXXX XXX alert X XXXX a XXXXXXXX XXX Laden XXXXXXX XX transgendered XXX XXXXX X to XXXXX XXX XXXX giraffes. Advise XXX XXXXX XX XXXXXX the XXXXX XXXX and XXXXXXXX.

  50. Gawd, those meetings had to be fun by Sand_Man · · Score: 2, Funny

    My mind goes numb just thinking of a conference room full of Gov't types arguing the merits of their "pet" fonts.

    Be bringing the BIG coffee cup to that one.

    "..... and next Bob will be doing a PowerPoint presentation on the exciting history of Lucinda 12, go ahead Bob......"

    [head smacks table]

  51. More politics ... by pherris · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Steve Jobs was President is would've been chicago.

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  52. pandersite.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is there a place on the web that panders to my lust for violence?

    You're on it...right now.

  53. The ink lobbyists by Zevets · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think you just realized the real motive. The ink lobby has "donated to the president". Everyone knows how expensive ink cartridges are(or laser). Open Open Office (pun intended) and type something. You will see that the end number of pages is the same, but that Times New Roman 14 uses wider parts of letters (total width same including spacing). You will need to open it up to see what I mean. This will cost the governement millions paying for these extra cartridges. Fear the Ink Lobby!

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  54. When I was in college by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Funny
    I used Courier to add that extra dead space on those 20 page papers that were really about 18 pages long, and I always used the excuse, "Well, its good enough for the government, its good enough for you!".

    Now why did I go and enroll for a Masters program next fall again?

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  55. In other news... by BillyBlaze · · Score: 2, Funny
    In other news, although negotiations will still be conducted around a round table, the ratio of the its circumference to its diameter will be exactly 3.

    And for classified documents, Wingdings.

    Sorry.