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What's The Fastest Growing Linux Distro?
darthcamaro writes "What's the fastest growing Linux distro? This really solid article on InternetNews.com contains interviews with the Debian Project leader, the founder of Mandrake, SuSe, Red Hat and TurboLinux to get their take on who's the biggest and who's the baddest on the distro block.
Also includes some interesting insight into the next round of releases."
It seems to be Gentoo to me, it's always suggested when someone asks for a new distro(I won't say where though as I'm afraid of being laughed upon ;)), and everyone seem to be using it. I'm happy with Slackware and FreeBSD. I really should check our Gentoo, it might just work on my crappy 5 year old Wintel machine...
And BSD is not dying!!
Red Hat isn't shrinking. It's not growing at the same rate but it's still growing. It's overall market dominace is shrinking but it's still growing. It's no longer the M$ of linux.
Evolution or ID?
It's Debian *shrug*
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Debian is the fastest growing GNU/Linux distro
distro Posted by: IntnsRed on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 12:14 AM.
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You could get a feel for the number from
http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.php
Knoppix is, of course, Really Debian.
Emphasis mine.
Then run an apt-get dist-upgrade. Perhaps there are some packages that need removal because of changed dependencies, etc. :-)
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The article says it has been shrinking.
Selling 1 license last week and 2 licenses this week would be a 100% increase. Selling 0 licenses last week and 1 license this week is an infinite percentage increase. I hope you pay somebody else to compute your taxes...
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According to DistroWatch.com, ranked by hits per day on their website:
Mandrake 991
Red Hat 696
Knoppix 643
Debian 567
Fedora 518
Gentoo 477
SUSE 460
Slackware 423
and the list goes on and on
Of course this is very limited sample and probably doesn't include any enterprise use.
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White Box Linux. All of the functionality, security and stability of RHE3 without any expense.
It also makes a snappy desktop distro with a 2.6 kernel. There are even apt-repositories if you're an apt-rpm type admin.
It's not a desktop distro, on the other hand, I look forward to not having to crossing my fingers and praying that an upgrade works for another five years or so.
The article says it has had the slowest growth rate, not that it is shrinking.
"RedHat has a far greater number of installations at 1.5 million, but a slower growth rate in the six-month span at 17.8 percent; "
It is still growing, just not as fast as the other distros.
It's growth rate has been shrinking, not it's absolute numbers.
Check out VectorLinux (based on Slackware)... lots of positive reviews.
Don't forget that as soon as it is installed in the hd it becomes debian.
Knoppix is to debian the same thing that mandrake move is to mandrake or suse live to suse.
Knoppix is great (and I really mean it) but you can't use it in a survey like this. Unless it is installed in the hard drive (and in that case it becomes debian) you can't count a new user because as soon as he removes the cd he isn't a knoppix user anymore, is he?
Here's the link: http://www.debian.org/intro/about.html
Well, since KDE 3.2 is in woody already, I don't see how they could not include it in the official release of sarge as "stable".
The article ranks only Web servers. So it's hardly going to provide useful numbers on desktops.
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Hm, well, Ian would be two syllables and pronounced "ee" as in Bee and "n" as in Sudden.
It would probably be "deb-ee-n"
No..?
The article says: "RedHat has a far greater number of sites but a slower growth rate, and actually fell this month"
I sell distros through my website, fastdiscs.com. I sell more copies of Mandrake GPL than all the other distros put together. It's quite phenomenal.
Distro of the week though? MEPIS. Try it, it's fantastic!
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scripsit SoTuA:
Actually it's not:
Note that Woody==Stable -- that's 2.2.2-14.7. Sarge (Testing) currently has 3.1.3-1, and Sid (Unstable) has 3.1.5-2.
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Certainly an important point! Many people in the US Astronomy community used RedHat in the past (those running linux that is... Solaris is still popular). However, people are being turned off by RedHat's policy change. We actually use Linux for productivity in a desktop environment, and need it to work without a lot of system admin. That essentially means:
1) A distribution that installs 'out of the box' (ftp,nfs,etc) without a lot of tinkering and screwing around getting hardware setup.
2) A distribution that provides bug patches and updates in a easy to use interface.
3) Something that can easily be figured out from a user perspective and is not overly complicated. Many faculty are not the most savey of computer users. I know one who got a new laptop with Windows and couldn't figure it out. He had though been (and still is) using VMS since its beginning and understands that fine.
I recently installed SuSE on my laptop and am quite pleased with it. I'll probably switch my other RedHat machines over to Suse in the near future.
Just my 2-cents from a community that uses linux daily.
Maybe for personal use, but fedora basically is redhat without th support is it not? My cousin just went and bought a magazine about linux cause he wanted to try it out (he doesnt get cable where he lives only 56k) but i think that stuff thats easy for people to obtain will help it grow, my cousin probably doesn even know how to burn a iso.. if peopel want to experince/ try out linux cause the realized MS sucks paying 80 dollars for suse or redhat at bestbuy may become a trend..
There always has to be at least one person having a dig at Hurd ;)
Funny... except that by definition, GNU/HURD is not a Linux distro.
http://alternatives.rzero.com/
Where do you get off saying that? Personally I don't know a whole lot of former Slackware users who aren't of the "must try the new version of this or that distro as soon as it comes out" group. Yes, there are a lot of former Slackware users who now use Gentoo or Debian.
Here's the shocker. I'll bet you they still use Slackware on some things.
Here's another shocker. I know a lot of Slackware users who are former Debian or Gentoo users.
Slackware, what else when it must be secure, stable, and easy?
However the parent was talking about how Red Hat cut off half there customer because they stop producing a free downloadable and boxed set version of their operating system.(Which really was just draining money doing so, because the number buying it didn't outweigh the money involved in making it). Once they cut the dead weight, Red Hat is now actually turning a profit, and their stock has risen over 100% since. (Though that could just be do to them filing a lawsuit against SCO).
You might want to have a look at Libranet. I do use Suse at work (have to), and one of my boxen at home is also still running it. The moment you do something to system settings without using Yast, their admin tool, you are in trouble, wether you immediately notice or not.
I played around a little with Debian, which I liked, and then discovered Libranet. It`s Debian, but more userfriendly and with a nice admin interface. The good people there have their own update-archive and a pretty good forum community.
www.libranet.com
Go here and grab the "mini.iso". It's only 3.2 MB and should get you everything you want.
Don't forget they sold a license to Microsoft. It isn't an increase from zero. True it happened more than a week ago.
My tinfoil hat theory is SCO doesn't intend to sell licenses. They were hired by Microsoft to price Free Software much higher than Windows as a move to kill the competition. Follow the money. How many copies do you think Microsoft is really running for 10 million dollars? At $699 per processor they have license for 14,306 processors. Who really believes they bought that many copies to run it in-house?
Follow the money
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/35588.html But the real security problem in Xandros is precisely the Windows affliction: too many networking services are enabled by default.
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HURD is the GNU kernel. Debian is Linux distro, hence not HURD.
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The Debian people are rewriting their installer right now for the upcoming release. One of the big goals is improved auto-detection of hardware. I'm not sure if they are pulling things from Knoppix, but hopefully so for the x86 platform.
Take the above data from distrowatch, which is the average of the previous month and combine it with the averages from the previous 3, 6 and 12 months. Work out the change in average percentage share of the hits for each distro (well for those with clearly over 100 hits per month for the last 12 months) between 2-3 months ago and the previous month. Here's what you discover (sorted by biggest increase in share from 2-3 months ago to last month):
God that table is ugly, sorry! It reads, distro, click share % for last month, increase in click share from 2-3 months ago to last month and increase in click share from 7-12 months ago to last month.Anything missing is either too new for distrowatches information to be useful (for example Fedora it claims has an average of 518/month whether you are talking over the past 12 months or 1) or else it fell foul of having under 100 hits somewhere (Yoper would have had far and away the biggest negative growth but it has dropped to only 63 hits).
So fastest growing distro? You choose, if you just want the last months growth you have the list above, you want to compare it to 7 to 12 months ago, then its Xandros, Debian, Knoppix, Lindows, Mandrake (spot the trend).
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it is available now
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http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
to those interesting in beta testing. I've heard good things about it already. I was going to try it out but that happened about the same time as the security breach so I wasn't able to download it before I got busy again.
Download an image and try it out. I'm sure you'll find it amiable as some reviewers have already
http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=mod
I can remember buying distros back when downloads were slow (1996 or so), and the University of Toronto book store had Red Hat boxes stacked all over the place. They were all gone in a couple of weeks, too. Of course there were only so many stores that got boxes in any volume, but still, thousands of units (they were seriously piled up when they came in) in a couple of weeks.
Of course they probably don't sell any retail boxes now. The few students who don't have broadband (networked dorms) probably get copies from those who do. Good revenue stream while it lasted.
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