Behind the Scenes in Kernel Development
An anonymous reader writes "Some interesting changes took place in the way the Linux kernel is developed and tested. In many ways, the methods used to develop the Linux kernel are much the same today as they were 3 years ago. However, several key changes have improved overall stability as well as quality. This article takes a look behind the scenes at the tools, tests, and techniques -- from revision control and regression testing to bugtracking and list keeping -- that helped make 2.6 a better kernel than any that have come before it." We might as well mention here (again) that a couple of new kernels are out: leif.singer writes "2.6.3 and 2.4.25 are out, fixing another vulnerability in do_mremap()."
I wish I could wrap my head around even the smallest part of the kernel. There is so much code in there and aside from main(), it is hard to find a good place to start studying.
Would these tests be a good starting place?
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I can't say how much I appreciate the automatic tests. This is applying computers to a thankless task that they're suited for.
Now if they only had a web dashboard portal showing the latest results in an easily-assimilated color coded HTML table....
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I don't know what they've done in terms of changing things, and I didn't RTFA. What I do know is that I've been using the 2.6 kernel on my new ThinkPad T40, and the machine is FAST, and stable. Hats off to all reponsible.
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However, several key changes have improved overall stability as well as quality.
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I have a suggestion : how about not calling development kernels with an even version number?
- 2.6.0-beta-something kernels were bad (okay fair enough, it was beta, and Linus admitted having called a 2.5.x kernel 2.6 in order to lure early adopters and get them to test it).
- 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.6.2 were unstable for me, with doozies such as oopses while rmmoding and random crashes using ide-scsi (yes I know it's deprecated, but some of us need it).
I now run 2.6.3-rc3 and it's the first time it seems stable enough to be called a 2.6 kernel. There are some problems left, but overall it's getting decent. But then why are the others "2.6" kernel called 2.6 at all? they were really 2.5 kernels imho.
This has happened before, with the beginning of the 2.4 serie. I only felt it was getting good enough at version 2.4.6 and above (I'm not counting the failed 2.4.11 release). When 2.4.0 went out, I thought it meant it was ready for prime time, like 2.2.0 was, or at least was more, but no it was crap. I was slightly annoyed with Linus then, but I thought he had been pressured by commercial Linux shops and that he wouldn't do it again. But no, he did it again with 2.6.
It's really quite annoying, because those who follow Linux know the first "stable" kernels aren't stable at all, therefore avoid it, therefore defeat the point of testing it for Linus, but beginners think "cool, a new stable kernel", try it and are disappointed, giving a bad name to an otherwise great kernel. Too bad
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The announcement for 2.6.3 and 2.4.25 was yesterday, and the vulnerability to which the link in the text above refers was with mremap, not munmap; there's also another vulnerability with mremap mentioned yesterday as an *update* to the kernel announcement.
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Without RTFA (of course), I tried to find any reference to "sco".
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The only match was "a misconfigured system".
Was here in yesterday's thread about 2.4.25 and 2.6.3 releases.
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Now if they only had a web dashboard portal showing the latest results in an easily-assimilated color coded HTML table....
Then you'd become a PHB.
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fixing another vulnerability in do_mremap() ah, good old Mr. Emap.
2.2.0 had a bug where the system would instantly reboot when any user ran "ldd". I wouldn't call that "ready for prime time" :)
.0 release" is pretty sage advice, and of course we know Microsoft's track record. You're not going to be able to catch all of the bugs before something gets truly widespread testing, no matter what you call it or how long you work on it.
(I remember this because we were waiting for 2.2.x to come out, having just gotten a dual P-II 350 server [2.0.x didn't have SMP support]. Fortunately, we managed to hold off for the first few revisions.)
It's not as if this problem is unique to the Linux kernel. "Never use a Red Hat
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I think they forgot to test the framebuffer in 2.6.x kernels. If I can't see Tux, then I ain't booting it! (radeon)
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I grant that sometimes you have to simplify history to avoid digressing in an article, but this is a bit too inaccurate to let stand.Bitkeeper wasn't suggested by anyone; it didn't have to be. It was developed from the ground up to Linus' requirements. Larry McVoy had a discussion about source control with Linus years ago, in which Linus said "none of the products are good enough" and Larry said, "ok, I'm going to write one that is". Apparently he had this on his mind anyway, and so he started Bitmover Co. As bitkeeper became a usable product Larry continued to take Linus feedback and improve it until it was good enough for Linus to use... at which point Linus started using it.
This is still a simplification of course, but it's closer... and as you can see, there were no third party suggestions involved.
It's still amazing to me that a project as large as Linux was able to be so successfull BEFORE the changes that were made to the development process. It lacked a centralized CVS, coherent bug tracking, automated testing... These are all things I use in the smallest of professional projets. Many eyes goes a long way towards compensating for having many hands in a big project, but some structure seems like it's helped.
That's what bothers me. How long will the distros wait until they use the 2.6 kernel? I hear the scheduler is improved amongst many other things. So what's the hold up? Is it just that there's no one willing to be the guinea pig?
http://tinyurl.com/3t236
I don't like to start new threads but I didn't see this: A general "Thank you for your time, effort, and a job well done" to all of the kernel hackers out there. They're fixing kernel level bugs that are almost at the hardware level while M$ is still patching their web browser. I don't think there's any doubt which system is ultimately more secure.
Can anyone take a guess how many low-level memory exploits are in Windows XP, 2k, or others? Perhaps it's irrelevant. Who needs to crack the low mem when there are so many ways into the system at the document level?
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Is that true that Linux is developed using the proprietary BitKeeper? Why not Subversion or CVS or RCS? I just tried to download BitKeeper and there's a strange question in the download form: "Do you anticipate implementing a source management system in the next: [Please Select]" What's the deal? Don't just tell me that if I want to contribute to Linux, than I cannot contribute to Subversion... If that is indeed the case, then what are they nuts? No wonder that Subversion is maturing so slowly, when all of the Linux contributors are legally obligated to not help it. But is that really fair? I'm sure Linus Torvalds would never choose software with such an EULA, so who has made that decision? Was BitKeeper always proprietary and anticompetitive?
I highly suggest picking up a copy of the Linux Core Kernel Commentary. The first part of the book contains the code of the majority of the "core" kernel components, and the second part explains the code. It's slightly out of date, but still a good read.
I've encountered many problems with external hard drives using USB 1 and 2 interfaces. Locking up the entire system on large file copies was the main issue. (Copying small numbers of files was never an issue. Lockups occured on different drives, different external chipsets, different 2.4.x kernels though supposedly fixed in the latest 2.4.x releases.)
I've finally gotten the nerve to run a few days of tests on 2.6.1 to see if this has been really resolved, and I'm happy to report that this now works like a charm.
If you've encountered similar problems with 2.4.x, give 2.6.x a try.
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