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ZDNet Examines SCO Indemnity Options

Ursus Maximus writes "David Berlind of ZD NET has posted a major opinion/research piece. What do you all think? I don't like the story at all, but he does seem to have made more of an effort to try to find reasons to back up SCO's claims than any of their other supporters have."

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  1. SCO Sues an End User by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 5, Funny
    Alright. This doesn't really seem to be going the way we wanted. I mean, you said no to $690 a seat. You aren't willing to assign future Linux refinements to me and my posse. You wouldn't even read the brochure I worked so hard on, or cry uncle when I surprised you with a titty twister. And now you say you've called the police, and that's kind of harshing my mellow. I mean, that's a fine how-do-you-do for your good friend Darl!

    Listen, I mean - maybe we can still settle this. I want what we're due... you want what's fair... look: I'm taking one... two... see? Two big handfuls of mints from the nice bowl on the reception desk... all good? Okay so far? Excellent. And I'm keeping my visitor's name tag, and I want on your Christmas mailing list. No? Okay... just the mints and the tag? Just the mints? Excellent.

    Hey, look -- Jesus at the copier!!

    CHRIS! Grab another handful of mints! Let's bolt!@!!1

    ~Darl

    1. Re:SCO Sues an End User by c1ay · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hey Darl, maybe you should try negotiating indemnity from /. before someone posts your phone number here again...

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    2. Re:SCO Sues an End User by NaugaHunter · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean this one?

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  2. SCO Code in Linux by ksuMacGyver · · Score: 5, Funny

    So is SCO claiming that their code is in the least safe operating system?

    I can see why no one wants to pay $699 for it! ;)

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  3. It is an uninteresting - non-article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The article starts by saying that the author actually had a dinner with the VP of a biiig company. Wow! Is that relevant? No I don't think so. Then what happens: a confusing article about the various indemnification schemes.

    "Wow"

    as if that is relevant. Nobody on this planet except Darl and maybe his pet-hamster believe that SCO has any chance of winning. Simply because they are wrong and everybody knows it.

    Now tell me BIG AUTHOR, why do you think that readers are interested in such a confusing article. Do you want to look 'smart' or something? Or did you just want the world to know how big a tech-journalist you are, dining with a suit?

    *impressed* (please allow me a yawn, ok)

  4. American FUD by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some time ago, I posted this to Groklaw, I've since updated it some, so here it is again. It can be sung to the tune of Don McLean's "American Pie" (sort of). You'll have to excuse the scarcity of carriage returns in the below text. Slashdot would not allow me to post with them, saying the lines were too short. Anyway, enjoy!

    A long long time ago, I can still remember how Unix used to be so great, tape drives were as big as cars for saving files, known as tars and perhaps, we could save it from its fate

    But Richard Stallman surely shivered when Windows NT was delivered, with icons on the desktop and a flying toaster backdrop

    But I can't remember if I cried such great relief I felt inside, we had IBM on our side the day Caldera died

    *Bye Bye Mr. Darl McBride, claimed there's Unix in our Linux but we know that you lied, and them Redmond boys are cursing Samba and WINE, thinking this'll be the way that they die, this'll be the way that they die.

    Did you use the kernel source? Well the GPL you can't enforce. Just because I said it is so, we'll sue you if you don't desist, its not a slap across the wrist and that's the FUD that's coming out of SCO

    Well, he belongs in a prison cell, or in the fiery pits of hell, his name is Darl McBride, and he'll take you for a ride, his SCOsource license costs a grand, but no one's got one in his hand. We all told him to go pound sand, the day Caldera died, we were singin'
    repeat *
    Didio came to spread the FUD, and SCO was after Linus's blood, but that's not how its going to be, cuz PJ came and did her blog, and Darl I'm sure, that dirty dog, reads it all, quite religiously

    In Las Vegas back in August, SCO tried hard, tried with earnest to prove Linux wasn't free, but they showed us BSD. We all laughed and we all reeled, when we observed what they'd revealed. So now they keep their claims all sealed, the day Caldera died, we were singin'
    repeat *
    Then they released some header files, and that left them on the tiles, cause the files contained not a line of code. You can't lay claim to 123, its just a number you can see, that simply tells the program how to load

    It's public knowledge, for all to know, that's what was told by us to SCO, but did those fools believe it? They just could not conceive it. We own Unix and all the works, all its traits and all its quirks, and then they called us stupid jerks, the day Caldera died, we were singing
    repeat *
    And now they're suing Novell too. They'll sue me and they'll sue you. They're saying this in every place. They are fighting against our IBM, and fighting the owners of RPM, but they don't have a solid case

    It's gonna bust its gonna break, investor's money they plan to take. Stock won't be worth a dime, and it will be a crime. Insider trading we'll all cry, Linux was just their alibi, Darl and Kevin the feds will try the day Caldera died, we're a singin'
    repeat *
    When times were dark and things were glum, Darl had Linux by the thumb. Someone had to save the day. But like an episode of Scooby Doo, PJ and friends all came through, and Linux is here to stay

    But back in Utah, so it seemed, SCO did cry, and then they screamed. They couldn't match a token, no copyrights were broken, and the OS I admire most, is free to all, from coast to coast, and SCO is but a distant ghost, the day Caldera died, and we were singin'
    repeat *

    IANAL or a poet or a musician. So there.

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    1. Re:American FUD by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Sir,

      I am a founding board member of the nonprofit corporation that acquired the rights to the coffeehouse in which Mr. McLean first performed American Pie. As such, in our opinion, American Pie is a derivative work of our orginization.

      Please remit a check for $699 dollars to me immediately.

      Oh, yeah. Make it out to "cash," 'K?

      KFG

  5. OMG this is funny (link) by holy_smoke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe not related but d@m funny! SCO street photo at Groklaw

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  6. in other new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    David Berlind sells his sco shares 2 days after posting artilce :)

  7. Re:Author seems to be pro-SCO by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny
    Moreover, in this article too, nowhere has he questioned the validity of SCO's claims. He seems content to criticize other companies for their indemnification programs.

    He says:
    If you take some time to study the case, however, I think you'll find that SCO's claims are not as easy to dismiss as some people would lead you to believe. Could those claims eventually be dismissed? Absolutely. I'm just not sure that it's the slam-dunk that SCO's opponents and water cooler discussions make it out to be.


    He explicitly states that SCO's claims could be dismissed. The point of the article is simply to explain how linux users can be protected if this isn't the case.
  8. Re:A question for SCO. by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought SCO avoided that pitfall by not having products anymore.

  9. Re:RH ducks the punch by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, after you reach a certain level of wealth the law teams even out. Both IBM and RH can afford to hire the best, no reason why IBM would be any more intimidating than RH.

  10. Cultish?!?!? by OnBeyondBeing · · Score: 5, Funny


    Mr. Berlind wrote that we open source-ers are 'cultish.'
    That's ridiculous.
    I say we hex him.

  11. Re:RH ducks the punch by c1ay · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's really a moot point since SCO is a Dead End...

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  12. Re:10-Q worries? by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    I usually get a kick out of reading a few of those risks on the way down to the financials and (notes where the really important stuff is). I love the boilerplate ones were the comapny states that all their customers might well just up and stop purchasing their products. Incidentally, there was a pretty funny column on Slate a while ago that grabbed an old filing for Martha Stewart Omnimedia, that detailed the material risk that Martha might do something stupid and tarnish her image and thereby impact the value of the company.

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  13. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He says "If you take some time to study the case"

    let me translate:

    1) I, wise sage, have studied the case
    2) You, stupid dope, have not
    3) I conclude there is much to this lawsuit and it will be difficult to dismiss

    He's so full of shit that he burps brown.

    THe point of the article is to say:
    Wow, this is complicated, you can't understand it. FOrtunately, I do understand it and let me tell you, this looks really difficult for you if you use Linux.

    He ignores that fact that SCO has changed their tune in the lawsuit; they no longer claim they own Linux/Unix/AIX; they're saying "Oh look, shiny!"

    Please stop trying to defend this guy; he's a moron with a word processor.

  14. If not, DoD will discuss licences with them. by leonbrooks · · Score: 4, Funny

    "OK, so you want to come at this the hard way? No problem." (-:

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  15. Re:One Interesting Paragraph... by pavera · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess this writer forgot to find out that you still can't purchase these licenses from SCO, their sales people still can't sell them, or know how to sell them to people

  16. Re:Yup, the appropriate "old saying" is... by dmaxwell · · Score: 4, Funny

    The "scogelt" rolls of the tongue acceptably well.

  17. Re:Microsoft shill ? by yomegaman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Judging by the way your posts wrap at 40 columns, I'm guessing you're still pissed about them dropping Commodore 64 coverage.

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  18. Amazon and anonymity... :-) by BerntB · · Score: 4, Funny
    It would be interesting to see if most Anon comments to a story like this are written by the same person (like the temporary Amazon bug.)

    Wouldn't that be a wonderful (temporary) bug in slashcode, too? I am willing to implement the bug myself, just to see what grubs are found beneath the rocks...

    Pretty please with lots of sugar Cowboy Neal et al?

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  19. Re:A - Its ZDNET; B - Its an opinion piece by crazyphilman · · Score: 1, Funny

    Besides, LOOK at the guy. He's SOOOOO happy about his square "I work for a dot-com" glasses... What is UP with the square glasses, already? Why is it everyone I see online or off who wants to grab a little geek cred buys square glasses? Did I miss a memo?

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  20. Re:I'm in the wrong business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    " In my case, I'm Chief Technical Officer of a small web design firm"

    Translation:

    We're got 4 guys, and unfortunately, I'm the one who doesn't code, and I sound horrible as a receptionist.

  21. Re:Open source is cultish? My response.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    you're article disappoints me...

    your

    prove it's point.

    its

  22. Re:No mention of the claims' validity... by rcs1000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean I should start 10 $3bn law suits against random people, on the basis that I'll win one of them?

    Finally... the solution to

    1. Something.
    2. SUE EVERYONE.
    3. Profit.

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