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Twenty-five Years at the Heart of Gaming

Andrew Leonard writes "Salon has a loooong interview with Eugene Jarvis, the creator of legendary arcade video games Defender and Robotron, up today. Jarvis talks about why he is pro-emulators, anti-Grand Theft Auto, still focused on arcade games, and deeply worried about terrorism. It's a good read, even if you have to watch a ten second ad to get access."

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  1. Bring on the old games by poptix_work · · Score: 5, Funny

    Despite all the new games, I still have more fun playing Duke Nukem 3D and Commander Keen.. without having to quit because of motion sickness =)

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    1. Re:Bring on the old games by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
      I still have more fun playing Duke Nukem 3D and Commander Keen.

      Ah, such modern games.

      Give me Hadron, Odyssey, Space Eggs, Turmoil, Impossible Mission, M.U.L.E., ...

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    2. Re:Bring on the old games by bludstone · · Score: 2, Funny

      LUXURY!

      In my day, we only had Space War and Zork.

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  2. 25 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's 25 years of fixing leaky pipes. I sure as hell don't want to be around when Mario delivers the plumbing bill.

  3. Terrorism by Mikmorg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its about time someone interviewed an important source about terrorism. Maybe now we can figure out what effect old-skool games had on the al-Qaida.

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    1. Re:Terrorism by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 1, Funny
      On a 14.4, yes.

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    2. Re:Terrorism by notque · · Score: 2, Funny

      Its about time someone interviewed an important source about terrorism. Maybe now we can figure out what effect old-skool games had on the al-Qaida.

      Al-Qaida probably went nuts after tirelessly fighting through each level only to realize the princess was in another castle.

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  4. MAME... by Psyqlone · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as it ever was.

    1. Re:MAME... by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      You may ask yourself, "Why is this game cabinet so big?"

      KFG

    2. Re:MAME... by bheerssen · · Score: 4, Funny

      And you may ask yourself "Where is my beautiful arcade?"

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    3. Re:MAME... by Hagakure · · Score: 3, Funny

      fortunately you can still plonk in quarters for hours at a time!

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  5. ad time is good enough for post by ZakMcCracken · · Score: 4, Funny

    When the ad plays, just background the ad window and post your first opinion on Slashdot!

    Who RTFAs before posting anyway.

    1. Re:ad time is good enough for post by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Funny

      What is this "A" that you are referring to?

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  6. Re:Defender was by gregarican · · Score: 5, Funny

    Speaking of "withh all the buttons...in the rigth place" are you using a Dvorak keyboard today?

  7. Well put... by prescot6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:
    DOS was boring and you had to kind of type and shit.

    I can't wait until I have kids and they ask me, "Daddy, what was DOS like?"

    1. Re:Well put... by DangerSteel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hell I have co-workers who ask me that now... every once in a while I can pull an old DOS trick out of my hat and impress them.

    2. Re:Well put... by prescot6 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... every once in a while I can pull an old DOS trick out of my hat and impress them.

      And now for my next trick, I will display the file tree using only a command prompt...

  8. but of course by ryanw · · Score: 4, Funny
    It's a good read, even if you have to watch a ten second ad to get access
    It ususally takes me more than 10 seconds to remember what bogus username and password I used for those stupid registration sites anyway...
  9. A game about terrorism? by karmaflux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody's ever done that before! How original! It's creativity like this that fuels the gaming industry.

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  10. Add problems... by Pollux · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a good read, even if you have to watch a ten second ad to get access.

    You watch the ad. I'll post a comment about how I let it run in the background while I posted this comment.

    Oh wait...darnit. It's a click-through. Oh well, still didn't read it though. Don't I feel like the consumers' hero.

  11. Re:Not the only person against Grand Theft Auto by lacrymology.com · · Score: 2, Funny

    "where vile acts are rendered in detail to a young audience."

    Yeah, I hate Dance Dance Revolution also!
    -m

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  12. Old Skool violence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was never allowed to play Defender. My parents saw that I could just swoop my ship down and murder all the little people I was supposed to save.

  13. Re:Not the only person against Grand Theft Auto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    When you're done ranting on Slashdot, Grandma, will you bake me some cookies?

  14. Try another instrument by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 2, Funny
    We were jazz musicians in those days, just riffing on whatever cool new beat came along, and now it's carefully crafted, orchestrated; you play your cymbal -- your full-time job is to play your cymbal on the 3,084th beat of this measure and you better be damn happy doing it. If not, there's four guys waiting to take your place

    Perhaps he should look into a featured instrument. Like, say, the cowbell.

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  15. Re:Who cares what they like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It doesn't matter if they like or dislike GTA and games of the present generation.

    Great point!

    I can program a game like pacman using 1 joystick and no buttons. Those aren't even games, they are like light show demos.

    Great contradiction!

  16. Defender and Robotron are great by Qrlx · · Score: 5, Funny
    I love both of those games to death and I'm surprised I never heard the name Eugene Jarvis before this article.

    There's a few things that send both of those games over the top. First of all they have some of the best sounds of any game. You can hear the "lander picks up a colonist" sound in like 100+ hip-hop songs these days.

    Then there was the, literally, non-stop action of these games. When you are playing Robotron, the longest break in the action is approximately one second, and that's between levels. It's not even long enough to take a sip of your drink! Defender is pretty much the same but you might be able to sneak a quick chug in at the end of a wave if you don't mind spilling beer down the front of your shirt.

    Where I play there's that "Big Buck Hunter" game right next to Robotron. That game not only costs twice as much, it's mostly waiting around and pretty scenery. I prefer the immersive experience of Robotron over the eye candy of those games any day. And Robotron has some pretty good eye candy, it's just the eye candy of 23 years ago.

    For those of you that think Robotron is too hard, it's not. Sure, when it came out, I couldn't handle the two joysticks. But I went back to it and I've gotten pretty good. Defender had the same "controls are too hard" problem for lots of people.

    You know what's really hot? Chicks who play Robotron. I've met one or two. But I've never seen a woman on Defender. Hmmm maybe it's time for an OSDN peronals ad:
    Defender of Human Race seeking like-minded female for trips through wherever the Hyperspace button takes us. Turn-ons: Smart bombs, rescuing humans, extra lives. Turn-offs: Mutants, Baiters, and when the whole planet blows up.
  17. Need more flare by Fubar411 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I agree, games today need more flair. Approximately 30 pieces to be exact. But why limit yourself there, Edwin has 35 pieces.

  18. Re:Don't let your kids play GTA then stupid by Havokmon · · Score: 2, Funny
    I grew up playing video games, hey, news flash, there were some pretty gorey games out there even back in the day if you knew where to look. I remember one I used to play called Speed Racer? Or somesuch, you ran over little old ladies. *splock*

    Gory? I'm not worried about my kids seeing gore, I'm worried about them emulating me ;)

    My best friend and I beat Lesiure Suit Larry 1 in one night, and we were only in 7th grade. To win the game, you had to get laid.

    I now have 4 kids, and I just turned 30.

    Bring on the gore! :P

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  19. Re:Troll troll troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Cars that drive like the steering wheel actually was a joystick.

    Actually, the steering wheel is a joystick. Unless you buy a steering wheel for your console. Then the cars drive as if the steering wheel is a steering wheel.

  20. thats ok by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny
    That's 25 years of fixing leaky pipes. I sure as hell don't want to be around when Mario delivers the plumbing bill.

    You can pay him with mushrooms and fake gold coins

  21. Re:Not the only person against Grand Theft Auto by notque · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exactly, the problem isn't video games. Its parents who dont belive they should have to have any form of interaction with their kids. I grew up with D&D, quake, duke nukem, and tons of war games. I am fine. My parents made a point of explaining the difference between fantasy and reality. Fantasy was me ninja kicking down the small tree outside. Reality was me doing hard labor in the yard for 6 straight weekends to pay for that tree.

    That's great for you. I grew up with D&D, quake, duke nukem, and tons of war games.

    My parents never had to tell me not to go around shooting rocket launchers. I knew this was wrong.

    I think G.I. Joe may have informed me. Although I distinctly remember that them telling me was only half of what I needed to accomplish.

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  22. new video game ideas by mabu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, this guy wants to exploit 911 for a game? Let's all jump on the bandwagon. Abstract strategy-oriented games seem so passe now, let's just create more reactive flinchers... Here are some ideas:

    * SUV Gauntlet - Negotiate your Honda/Toyota through city streets crowded with sun-blocking SUVs to get to the gas station before all the fuel is gone. (Think Spy Hunter with the Zepplin music that Cadillac has now stolen)

    * Airport Confiscation - Monitor a moving X-Ray belt scoring points for removing any useful object that could be used as a weapon. (Think Tapper)

    * Neo-Conservative Invasion - Hoards of self-righteous republicans try to stop you from getting to the voting booth. (Think Robotron with patriotic music, the "brain wave" would be little Ashcrofts using Patriot missles)

    * Legend of Ronco - Navigate through an old Chinese warehouse assembling the missing pieces to put together the next big infomercial product.

    * Hurrydating Man - Avoid rejection as you move through a maze inhabited by bitter 30-something women. Watch out for the pet cats! (Think Bezerk with music by Kenny G)

    * Grand Theft Cable - Avoid police as you wire the neighborhood with free cable TV.

    * Store Wars - Score big points for invading rural towns and driving small shopowners out of business.

    * Pedestrian - An update to the classic Frogger game where you try to cross an American street without getting run over.

    * THC Scavenger Hunt - Frantically search an apartment for your pot after you forgot where you stashed it the previous night.

  23. Re:Don't let your kids play GTA then stupid by wheresdrew · · Score: 2, Funny
    My best friend and I beat Lesiure Suit Larry 1 in one night, and we were only in 7th grade. To win the game, you had to get laid.

    I now have 4 kids, and I just turned 30.

    So you missed the part in the game where Larry had to get a condom before he could score?