Apple Fills Your Tuesday With Updates

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Apple Fills Your Tuesday With Updates

Posted by pudge on Tuesday March 2, 2004 @03:37PM from the no-more-airport-induced-kernel-panics-for-me dept.

slapple writes "Apple has recently updated its AirPort and iDVD software. These new updates should appear in your Software Update." AirPort 3.3.1 fixeds some wake-from-sleep problems. GarageBand Jam Pack was also updated, to 1.0.1. And munboy writes that Apple also posted an Nvidia driver update: "This firmware update is for customers using Mac OS X version 10.2 or later with an Apple Cinema HD Display and a Power Mac G4 with one of the following NVIDIA graphics cards: GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX TwinView, GeForce3, or GeForce4 MX."

55 comments

First post! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 15:39 · Score: -1, Troll

Frist poost!
DAMN YOU! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 15:40 · Score: -1, Troll

I was going to post a big mug of FROSTY PISS that your ma served up, but you beat me too it.
oh sweet nothing by madbeaner · 2004-03-02 15:43 · Score: 0, Redundant

sweet, new drivers for my video [h]ardware. maybe i'll finally be able to play UT on my GF2!!111
Only for 10.3 by TheRedHorse · 2004-03-02 15:53 · Score: 5, Informative

Just a note, these updates appear to only be for OS 10.3
1. Re:Only for 10.3 by toekneeshops · 2004-03-02 16:00 · Score: 1
  
  Please get 10.3 - it is so much better than Jaguar, it's like Jaguar was a beta version. And I loved Jaguar...
2. Re: Only for 10.3 by gidds · 2004-03-02 18:02 · Score: 1, Interesting
  
  Please get 10.3
  So are you going to give me the 100 needed*? And find a version of Cubase SX that works with it?
  (* Equivalent to US$186.)
  
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  Ceterum censeo subscriptionem esse delendam.
3. Re: Only for 10.3 by toekneeshops · 2004-03-02 18:07 · Score: 1
  
  not likely
4. Re:Only for 10.3 by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 18:29 · Score: 1, Interesting
  
  Yeah I really don't agree with this statement. I bought 10.3 at educational price and really wish I hadn't. I use maybe 20% of the new features and the other 80% I don't really care about. If Apple sets up a system to upgrade the kernel then I would pay for another update but this is by far the last time I will upgrade for many years even with Apples forced upgrade program.
5. Re: Only for 10.3 by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 21:19 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  So you're saying I have a chance!
6. Re:Only for 10.3 by MinutiaeMan · 2004-03-03 02:34 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Except that when you're paying for the upgrade to Panther, you're also paying for the next year's worth of security updates, feature enhancements, and minor upgrades. Remember how everyone was complaining that Safari upgrades were only going to Panther users? That's most likely because Safari is funded by the current OS sales. And right now, that's Panther.
7. Re:Only for 10.3 by geoffspear · 2004-03-03 02:42 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Or it could be because Panther is a lot easier to develop software for, if you don't care about it being compatible with easier versions of the OS. Cocoa bindings/NSControllers are really nice, and I'd expect that most developers would rather write a whole lot less code than support users who don't want to upgrade.
  
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  Don't blame me; I'm never given mod points.
8. Re:Only for 10.3 by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-03 22:57 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  > [...] paying for the next year's worth of security updates, feature enhancements, and minor upgrades.
  
  The point is, if you're happy with your current feature set, there's no need to update. Security updates are released for older versions as well (as they should be) .
Hurray! by Wesson · 2004-03-02 15:56 · Score: 2, Insightful

"...improved reliability when authoring and burning DVDs."

Maybe this means it will finally burn dvds when I tell it to!
QUEER EYE FOR TEH MAC GUY by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 15:59 · Score: -1, Offtopic
AirPort update by LochNess · 2004-03-02 16:04 · Score: 4, Informative

If this update is supposed to fix wake-up problems with AirPort, I have yet to see it.

The last security update broke re-joining my network after waking up from sleep, and this update hasn't changed that.
1. Re:AirPort update by pudge · 2004-03-02 17:36 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  I have the same problem, and yes, it is not fixed. I know other people have the same problem; hopefully, Apple can track it down and fix it. :/
  
  My workaround is to set the name/password of my network in the Network preferences, instead of "choose automatically" use "choose specific network" or whatever. But it did fix my kernel panics, so yay!
2. Re:AirPort update by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-03 00:54 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  I get kernel panics when I go from home, where I use Airport, to my work, where I have a fixed ethernet connection.
  My workaround is to wake up my powerbook first en then connect it to the network. If I plugin the network first and then wake up my book I get a kernel panic. Perhaps this is a useful solution for you too!
  
  Rob
3. Re:AirPort update by benj_e · 2004-03-03 02:08 · Score: 1
  
  hmmm, I go from home (Airport) to work (fixed) all the time without problems with my dual-USB iBook. I wonder why not (not that I'm complaining mind you.)
  
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  The Tao that can be spoken is not the one eternal Tao
4. Re:AirPort update by pudge · 2004-03-03 03:49 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks, no, the solution is to use the 3.3.1 update. :-)
5. Re:AirPort update by fr0dicus · 2004-03-03 09:19 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  This problem seems to occur much more frequently on non-Apple Airport wi-fi base stations. Just my observation, but do you think Apple are going to be in a great hurry to fix that?
  ;-)
6. Re:AirPort update by drunkenbatman · 2004-03-04 06:22 · Score: 1
  
  Same problem- I haven't had airport connectivity since november. NOVEMBER. It's a real drag- luckily it works with hardware that isn't apples... IE, you can plug into a linksys or any other one and be fine, but not with apples snow. Sucks.
7. Re:AirPort update by pudge · 2004-03-04 06:58 · Score: 1
  
  If you have had the same problem as me, then your fix should have been as simple as mine.
8. Re:AirPort update by Phroggy · 2004-03-04 20:18 · Score: 1
  
  i have a similar issue, but not with Ethernet (it's either USB or video, I haven't done that much experimenting). And yeah, waking up first is the workaround.
  
  Of course, the screen doesn't come on, so I can't SEE that it's a kernel panic. ;-)
  
  --
  $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
  $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
how many times? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 16:04 · Score: 3, Interesting

I have been running FreeBSD since the 3.x days. Right around this time Linux became popular but I stuck with FreeBSD for several academic reasons. At that point one was as good as the other, but as time went on this changed. Linux started gathering a huge following and it really hit its stride. The developers made leaps in bounds in hardware support. Meanwhile, FreeBSD crawled from 3.x to 4.x, which was a great improvement to be sure, but not as rapid or large as what Linux had been offering.

Being locked into FreeBSD by familiarity and investment at that point I wistfully watched the GNU community race ahead. I wish something would start a similar firestorm of FreeBSD development. I thought nothing of it when Apple bought NeXT in 1996. The Rhapsody project, which was basically just adding some Apple technology to OpenStep, didn't interest me. When Steve Jobs announced Mac OS X in 1999, however, my ears perked up at the mention of my favorite Unix. Apple was going to update the very cores of OpenStep into something new FreeBSD was going to be a huge part of that.

Since Mac OS X v10.0 was released in 2001, Apple has been filtering BSD code in and out of their kernel, userland, and libraries. This code then makes its way back to FreeBSD. Apple's pattern is to sync every major Mac OS X release with the latest major FreeBSD release. For example, Mac OS X v10.1 corresponded to FreeBSD 4.4 and Mac OS X v10.2 matched up with FreeBSD 4.7. By the time Apple released Panther, their contributions back into FreeBSD had amassed into a new FreeBSD milestone, the 5.x branch. Mac OS X v10.3 contained bits of both FreeBSD 4.9 and FreeBSD 5.1.

Look at it this way, only after Apple started modifying FreeBSD 4.x and submitting their modifications did FreeBSD progress to the 5.x branch. The advanced VM and SMP code that allows Mac OS X to run so efficiently is the very same code that finally put FreeBSD on the level with Linux. I run FreeBSD 5.2 on a four-way Xeon box at work and thank Apple every day. If it weren't for the Mach micokernel from Apple we wouldn't be able to do these nice things with FreeBSD now or probably ever.

It's also kind of ironic how such a big deal was made by Wind River Systems buying out both BSDI and Walnut Creek Software. (Does anyone remember this?) The plan was to merge BSD/OS into FreeBSD and sell a special enterprise edition of the operating system while still maintaining the Open Source project. Sadly this fizzled out. No one ever predicted that Apple, of all companies, would ride in with the cavalry and pick up the pieces. Apple has done much more than Wind River ever managed to.

After such a long and precarious history FreeBSD is finally going somewhere and we no longer have to worry about the latest hardware support of when the next release will be. We're firing on all cylinders now, and within a couple more years there will be more FreeBSD installs than Linux or Solaris! I'm not so proud that I can't see what is behind this. Apple saved FreeBSD and I have no problem admitting or accepting that. I doubt many others who use FreeBSD do, but I just wanted to point it out.

Thank you, Apple, for saving FreeBSD.
Redundant by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 16:07 · Score: -1, Troll

Not in a -1 Redundant kind of way, but more of a mac guys are queer kind of way.
NETCRAFT CONFIRMS! by MoneyT · 2004-03-02 16:09 · Score: 0, Funny

FreeBSD is dyi-

er... that is... carry on then.

--
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
1. Re:NETCRAFT CONFIRMS! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 17:48 · Score: 0, Interesting
  
  those of you that think this is off topic need to read the post that it's a reply to
MY NAME'S BEN STANFIELD AND I'M A GAY NIGGER by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 16:14 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Author: klerck Subject: URL: http://www.squabble.org/index?id=301006 Here's your justification, you lousy piece of troll shit. My DSL connection at home sucks, and that's where the beta server is running. I gave out the site to 125 people who emailed me asked me for the site, so that it didn't die. Now you've decided to be a fucking flaming asshole and post the site everywhere, causing signifacnt problems with my DSL at home because you're a piece of shit with nothing better to do. I've wasted 5 hours this morning deleting your trolls and in the meantime have gotten NO other work done because of you. I'm trying to do something nice for MacSlash community and upgrade our server so it's better. You insist on wasting my time with this shit, and keeping me from being able to work on the new server. I've worked on this site for over 3 years without every making a penny off of it because I like the interaction with other Mac users. You've just spoiled that. I now dread loading the site every morning because of trolls like you. I spend most of my time now dealing with your petty bullshit instead making this a better place. And I'm about ready to just shut the whole damn thing down instead of dealing with you anymore. So there's you're fucking justification. Now stop posting the address of the new site. -- Ben Stanfield Executive Editor @ MacSlash
iDVD 4.0.1 is good news so far by djupedal · 2004-03-02 16:24 · Score: 4, Informative

G5 owners can now use the 'Best Performance' pref.
Playlists w/slideshows now play correctly (not just the first song and stop)
Burns are more reliable and don't take as long
If you haven't already, you may wish to see this page I put together on iDVD 4... 'iDVD 4 UOFAQ'
Dear Apple by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 16:35 · Score: -1, Flamebait

Dear Apple,
I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.
Dear "Pudge" O'Day by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 16:37 · Score: -1, Troll

Dear Father O'Day:
Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.
I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

Sincerely,
Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.
Still no USB printing fix by moosesocks · 2004-03-02 16:53 · Score: 4, Informative

And yet, we still have no USB printing fix. 10.3 broke support for most users for USB -> IEEE1284 converters, leaving owners of older printers up a creek...

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-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
1. Re:Still no USB printing fix by greentree · 2004-03-02 17:56 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  don't fret too much. that was already announced to be coming in the 10.3.3 update. check out macrumor's post about that nearly a week ago.
  
  Key changes listed include improved file sharing and directory services, PostScript and USB printing, font management, updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications and updated drivers.
Tuesday? by BrokenHalo · 2004-03-02 17:08 · Score: 3, Offtopic

but this was...
Posted by pudge on Wednesday March 03, @12:37PM
Someone's asleep here...
1. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 17:17 · Score: 0
  
  GMT+9 where you're at (Oz?). Its still Tuesday in the states.
2. Re:Tuesday? by y0bhgu0d · 2004-03-02 17:19 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  uhr...
  
  Posted by pudge on 03-02-04 22:37
3. Re:Tuesday? by pudge · 2004-03-02 17:37 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  I just work from the default position that nothing outside the U.S. actually exists. ;-)
4. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 18:24 · Score: -1, Troll
  
  This is just one of many reasons why you're a fucking asshole and people dislike you.
5. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-02 20:27 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  Australia (well, the parts with most of the population) is GMT+10. It's also daylight savings time, so we're +11 at the moment.
6. Re:Tuesday? by dmdimon · 2004-03-02 22:30 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  Actually, nothing outside the Soviet Russia actually exists ;-)
  
  Exept enemies - for both cases.
7. Re:Tuesday? by capmilk · 2004-03-02 22:45 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  You mean outside of the Soviet Union? There's only Reich 3.0 - or whatever version they're up to. Maybe Reich MX 2004 or something...
8. Re:Tuesday? by dmdimon · 2004-03-03 01:06 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  Exactly what I said, but in this place style it have to be Soviet Russia, not USSR, not Soviet Union.
9. Re:Tuesday? by filmsmith · 2004-03-03 07:05 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  Sure. I'll bite.
  
  Care to name more, oh wise troll?
  
  fs
10. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-03 09:37 · Score: 0
  
  me!
11. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-03 09:39 · Score: 0
  
  and me too!
12. Re:Tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-04 15:57 · Score: 0
  
  I hate pudge more than I hate straight niggers
  
  Harry Rodman
  Vice-president
  Homosexual Liaison Services
  Apple Computer, Inc.
Okay, here goes: by zbrimhall · 2004-03-02 17:46 · Score: 3, Funny

Just installed on X, no probs yet!

Just installed on Y, and my house burned down. Apple is sux0rz!
There is no firmware for nVidia by dmdimon · 2004-03-02 19:15 · Score: 3, Interesting

Nice link, nice download page - and:

Oops! We seem to have run into technical difficulties and cannot complete your download request. It could be that the download link you tried to access has changed and the developer forgot to notify us. Want to let us know so we can get it fixed? Send us an email or make your way back to Mac OS X Downloads for any other downloads you need.

Cheers,
Apple Downloads
Apple update problems by Anonymous Coward · 2004-03-03 04:19 · Score: -1, Troll

I don't want to start a holy war here, but I need to vent guys and here I hope I find sympathy! I HATE MAC'S

Today I spent the good part of five hours helping a friend at his freelance gig with a titanum powerbook while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 5 hours. The amazing thing is at home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this MAC, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. Now, I got the job to fix this as I'm the "Computer Guy" and can generally help friends and family with there computer problems. I have never seen such a tragedy as the titanum powerbook!

In addition, running Apple updates will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even BBEdit Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various Macs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Mac that has run faster than its Wintel counterpart, despite the Macs' faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this TiBook at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the Macintosh is a superior machine.

Mac addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Mac over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.

I don't, I really don't, see how Apple can claim to be tops in design. Even my A600 was a dream to work on compared to this and it was pretty compact too!. Anyway Ive talked my friend into getting rid of his mac addiction, he will definately be buying a Dell next!
1. Re:Apple update problems by Hitchcock_Blonde · 2004-03-03 08:15 · Score: 0
  
  Whoah! I'm glad your not my "Computer Guy"!
  
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  Karma Schmarma
2. Re:Apple update problems by fogpilot · 2004-03-03 09:28 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  this "computer guy" lives a repetitious life. I remember reading this earlier. someone less lazy would provide a link, but why bother.
Proper URL for nVidia patch by dborod · 2004-03-03 05:14 · Score: 5, Informative

Here's a link to the KB article that describes and links to the patch.
1. Re:Proper URL for nVidia patch by llf4nlp · 2004-03-03 12:00 · Score: 1
  
  The Update at this url is *not* new, in and of itself.
  It was posted 11/18/02 and only revised 3/2/04.
  I, for one, have no idea what exactly was revised, nor do I know, yet, whether or not to install it. It doesn't show up in S/ware update. We'll figure it out. ;-)
2. Re:Proper URL for nVidia patch by ashpool7 · 2004-03-03 17:37 · Score: 1
  
  Previously, the nVidia flash ROM updates were only available as OS 9 installers.
  
  I would surmise that these are the same ROM updates as the old OS 9 ones, except they figured out how to port nvflash to OS X (by loading a KEXT hook, apparently).
  
  They haven't increased the intelligence of the installer, as I had problems with my GF2MX working with my Sawtooth, 10.3, and >256MB of RAM. The new OS X installer said I didn't need it, as did the old OS 9 one. But, this time I extracted the appropriate ROM from the archive (thanks to the magic of packages), flashed my card on a PC and fixed the problems.
Update: re-connecting to AirPort by LochNess · 2004-03-05 05:03 · Score: 2, Informative

I managed to get my Powerbook to automatically re-join my AirPort network after waking from sleep.

In the 'Network Port Configurations' of the Network system preferences, I had the following checked:

USB Bluetooth Modem Adaptor, Internal Modem, Built-in Ethernet, AirPort

I un-checked the Bluetooth and Internal Modem, and now the computer re-joins the network after waking from sleep.