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Next Generation Mail Clients Reviewed

kreide writes "E-mail is the 'killer app' of the Internet; an enormous number of messages are exchanged every day, and while web-based mail has become very popular in recent years, many people still prefer the added speed and flexibility of a mail client application. In this review I compare the next generation of the most popular e-mail clients, including Evolution, KMail, Opera and Mozilla, and their usability in dealing with large number of messages."

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  1. Next killer app? by teklob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hardly think email is the next 'killer app.' I get about 100 spams a day, and about 1 legitimate message every few weeks. Nowadays, virtually all of my communication is done over IM.

    1. Re:Next killer app? by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some folks might think that receiving 100 spams a day is the "killer" part of the app.

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    2. Re:Next killer app? by skinny.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Email is not the next killer app; it is the killer app. I just emailed by boss and a client about a bad account number. Those people may not be in the office now. I've never met the client and I'm not about to ask for his Yahoo! ID.

      I sent new documentation to a dozen of my coworkers yesterday; same story there.

      I'm glad IM works exclusively for you. While IM use is growing rapidly, email use is as well.

      I get no spam at work after 8 years. I get plenty at home, of course. If my company had it's own internal IM that didn't require public servers out of our control, it may be feasible, but our information will NOT be stored on MSN or Yahoo servers, PERIOD. There is simply no substitute for email. Yet. It will be the client and not the core concept that gets updated.

    3. Re:Next killer app? by Frymaster · · Score: 5, Insightful
      wait.... you send passwords over email? ack!

      seriously. this brings up the biggest hole in email as a communications medium: it's inherently broadcast.

      for email to really become the predominant communications medium, privacy and authentication must be dealt with. whether that's through some open encryption/signing standard like gpg/openpgp or through some proprietary technique doesn't really matter (although obviously, i'm rooting for gpg). what matters is that people a) realize the shortcomings of email in this area and b) do something about it.

    4. Re:Next killer app? by IpalindromeI · · Score: 5, Informative

      If my company had it's own internal IM that didn't require public servers out of our control, it may be feasible

      Your company could run its own internal Jabber server. There are lots of clients for the employees, one of which would probably be suitable for or adaptable to the company's environment.

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    5. Re:Next killer app? by afidel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      God if you think there is no use for active email then you are VERY naive. There are companies with entire vertical apps built around Outlook/Exchange or Lotus Notes/Domino. One good example was an insurance company, they had the forms available to the field agents who would fill them out at the scene of an accident or while doing the apraisal. Once they got back to the office they sync their email client and the forms get sent to the server. There some scripts checked things for requirements and spit them back to the agent if they were lacking. Then business logic could decide if they went to accounting for a check to be written or sent to other departments for review, by say fraud investigators, or actuaries, or a VP if the dollar amount was very large, etc. Do I think MS did a terrible job in implementing Outlook, hell yes I do. Do I think their general goal was bad, not at all.

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  2. Outlook XP/2002? Where's Outlook 2003? by DangerTenor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is not a "next-generation" email client review if it does not include Microsoft Outlook 2003. Outlook 2003 boasts a great number of features and usability enhancements over Outlook 2002/XP. By including an older version of Outlook the author is skewing the comparison significantly!

    Feel free to mod me down as a troll, but the author isn't being honest with the community. Open-source folks will be better off knowing what's in the current version of commercial products, not the older versions.

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  3. Where's Mail.app by CmdrChillupa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Panther's Mail.app is by far the most usable, configurable mail application I've ever used. It's got all the usability and more of Outlook 2k3 without the high probability of having your computer trashed by virii.

  4. Re:And what's wrong with Outlook? by Anonymouse+Cownerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with Outlook is that it is not an email client, but rather an Exhange client. For example, there are plenty of simple IMAP functions Outlook does not support (at least in Office XP version that I mucked around with) such as saving sent mail to an IMAP folder instead of an Exchange folder (This can be hacked to work using a rule, but Outlook in itself cannot do this out of the box).

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  5. Microsoft Office XP correction by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Informative
    Virtual folders: Microsoft Outlook does not support this feature.

    Well, yes, it doesn't support virtual folders in the way that others implement it.

    However there is an option called "Current View" (in "View") which allows you to see your inbox in a number of different ways. For example: by sender, by followup flag, by conversation, past seven days.

    In addition, you can create and define your own custom views. So if I want to see all messages with the word "fish" in them, with one or more attachements, where I've been cc'ed and posted in the last week, then I can do so.

    Which sounds very similar to virtual folders to me.

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  6. Gnus/Emacs by yoghurt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gnus in emacs is perhaps the most configurable email client ever. For dealing with massive amounts of email it is especially suitable. It treats email like it was news. It basically arranges your email into newsgroups and does things like sorting messages based on headers/content into the right buckets and expire old mails. I do not know how I could receive, e.g., the linux-kernel mailing list without gnus.

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  7. Killer app? by phorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    E-mail is the 'killer app' of the Internet

    Actually, the internet has had several killer apps that kept the boom going:

    a) Communication: This includes IM's and email. In the early days it was mostly email.

    b) PR0N: Actually, it's been around since the early days of the internet. Heck, I remember it was a big part of BBS's before I got on the 'net

    c) Games: This really hit when TCP/IP games became popular over the internet. Less need to lug your PC over to a friends' for a LAN party, and you mom can play solitaire with your aunt in another country

    d) Music: I know a lot of people that subscribed to high speed just to get supposed "free" music.

    Email is perhaps, however, one of the "killer apps" that has suffered the most during its time online. Games have their botters/hackers, pr0n has its misleading popups, and music has its Britneys, but by far SPAM has become one of the larger unfixed problems so far (patched, perhaps, but not fixed)

    1. Re:Killer app? by LordK2002 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Less need to lug your PC over to a friends' for a LAN party, and you mom can play solitaire with your aunt in another country

      Isn't the central idea of solitaire that it is played by oneself?


      K

  8. Um... Outlook XP? by MSFanBoi · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone else mentioned, Microsoft's current mail client is not Outlook XP, it's currently Outlook 2003.

    There are also several innaccuracies in his review of the product.

    1.) Outlook does indeed support emoticons. Use Word as your default text editor in Outlook.

    2.)You CAN forward attachments, both in line and otherwise...

    3.) Outlook can do key binding... it's under Options, Customize.

    4.) I've been creating and managing mail lists in Outlook since Outlook 98...

  9. The biggest missing feauture is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ability to filter incoming mail based on the existence (or lack of) of the sender's e-mail address in my Contact database. This applies to both Outlook and Evo.

    All belly aching aside, I'm planning on employing a white list of valid e-mailers some time this year. For me at least, the promise of 'anybody' communicating via e-mail is dead.

  10. Re:outlook 2k3 by cbreaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, you're right about that. Outlook 2003 is a very nice, well organized, fast e-mail client. Great features and less cluttered then previous versions.

    I hope that the other mail clients can achieve a similar level of functionality and interface attributes.

    Gone are the days where a simple pop client will get the job done for me. I need a more robust package. Outlook certainly fills this position, but it's not cheap and it only runs on Windows.

    I'd buy Outlook 2003 if it was available for Linux.

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  11. Re:outlook 2k3 by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is pretty nice, why did it not get reviewed? Is this site biased or something?

    You must be new around here... ;-)

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  12. Re:Outlook XP/2002? Where's Outlook 2003? by orangenormal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Poppycock. The only reason the author didn't include Outlook 2003 was because he didn't have access to it. While this is perfectly acceptable, the little blurb in the FAQ (before the author admits not having access) is pure BS. When writing an article about the "next generation of email clients" there is no justification for comparing the latest version of everything to an old version of Microsoft's product. This is, indeed, unfair and misleading.

  13. They have some facts wrong about Opera. by Organized+Konfusion · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Opera M2 client is what I use every day for newsgroups, mailing lists, pop3 mail, imap mail.

    I know it inside out... the review makes two mistakes in the matrix of features.

    Firstly Opera does have both audio and visual mail notification.

    Secondly Opera Mail does have the ability to assign keyboard shortcuts of your choice.

    Thirdly it does support emoicons.

    If the reviewer gets so much wrong about Opera then there is no telling how many other mistakes he has made.

  14. Re:outlook 2k3 by Zayin · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the FAQ in the article:

    Q: Why didn't you use the newest version of Microsoft Outlook? This doesn't seem like a fair comparison.

    A: The only reason Outlook was even included was to serve as a reference with what is commonly available for the majority of users (which still run Windows unfortunately) today.

    Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time. After reading the review they can, however, immediately decide it is time to try out one of the alternatives, several of which are multi platform.

    Also, I only had Office XP at hand when writing the review, which only helps to better illustrates my point I think.

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  15. Re:And what's wrong with Outlook? by bogie · · Score: 5, Funny

    "This just smacks of zealotry."

    Zealotry : Mindlessly supporting a group, company, individual, product, or concept without regard for facts or opposing views.

    "With MS's recent drive for security, it's probably significantly more secure and robust too."

    Pot meet kettle.

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  16. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They do compare Outlook but only Outlook 2002 not Outlook 2003 which is a completely different product. I've been using it for a couple of weeks and I actually like it a lot. Spam filtering, lets you prevent HTML (by default doesn't download images, etc from internet), new look that is much more user friendly, easier to create rules, better searching, etc. To say you are doing a fair review and not compare the latest offering is just biased.

    And I am not a Microsoft employee or shill. I prefer Linux on the server and Windows and Office on the desktop. It has nothing to do with politics, cost, freedom or anything else. It has to do with what I am comfortable using.

  17. Re:Why do we need local clients by daveewart · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm a roaming contractor, so the alternative was trying to manage email clients at several locations, and constantly finding that something (address books, mail archives, etc..) was out of sync.


    That's what IMAP is for.

    No, IMAP is just for message storage. You still have to manage the configuration of the clients which access the IMAP server. IMAP simply lets you store your messages in a portable format. If you want to share other things, such as address books, you need to use something else - perhaps LDAP.

    If you want a single 'client' at all locations, you probably want to use webmail.
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  18. Re:Outlook 2003 - Issues for Admins by Bleeblah · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find Outlook 2003's spam filtering spotty. Sometimes it captures a message, sometimes it doesn't.

    Of importance to admins will be the fact that Outlook 2003 does not play well with some LDAP servers, and it can sometimes throw funny "errors" (warnings in reality) on IMAP mailboxes that can worry lusers.

    The menu organization for configuration/customization/settings for Outlook 2003 is horrible and after using it for months I still have to click through different button paths to find the right panel.

    Outlook is also a huge resource hog, but that goes without saying, given that it is a modern kitchen-sink app.

  19. Re:hmmm by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

    This, along with the PENIS ENLARGEMENT SPAM they used in the screenshots, makes for a very unprofessional review.

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