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ZVUE's $99 Video and MP3 Player

blackmonday writes "Hand Held Entertainment's ZVUE is an MP3 player, video and photo viewer with a color screen. At the price of $99, I think it might be worth the investment for the hacking potential alone. Uses Secure Digital/MMC cards rather than Compact Flash, but looks very cool. The funniest part - you can buy cartridges (apparently in some propietary format) of low budget wrestling movies and wannabe rapper videos."

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  1. Awsome gadget! by GMontag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cool! I am still fiddling with the I-Opener from several years ago. Now something else to splice into the Jeep :)

    Maybe I could use it for the OBD-II display?

    1. Re:Awsome gadget! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately, this gadget does not play any video other than the ZVUE proprietary cards. Each proprietary card costs $14.95 plus shipping and handling. If you want a video solution for your car, this is not it.

  2. My Own Low Budget Rap... by blackmonday · · Score: 5, Funny

    After 2 years of tryin,
    I' think I must be dyin,
    Today sure hits the spot
    cuz I got my first article posted on slashdot!

    Can I get a hell yeah?

    1. Re:My Own Low Budget Rap... by liquidsin · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was gonna visit your band site, as linked in your sig. Then I read your post...



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    2. Re:My Own Low Budget Rap... by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm glad to hear you did so fine,
      but for now you better get in line.
      I've had a few in my day,
      but the hall of fame is still far away.

      Congrats! Be sure to show off the addition to the bottom of your user page to all your buddies.

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      "Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."

    3. Re:My Own Low Budget Rap... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      My ISP is cryin'
      My web server is die'n
      The CPU's too hot
      cuz my site got posted on slashdot!

    4. Re:My Own Low Budget Rap... by BMonger · · Score: 2, Funny

      You kids and your "rap".
      Where did the haiku's go to?
      Oh the good old days.

  3. Too much hype... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Lessee, three links on the same page to "Order Your ZVUE Now!" ... Link to the Player, more "Order Your ZVUE Now!" links, (I see it arrives for the 2003 holiday shopping season, looks like old news.) The FAQ covers some stuff. This thing probably sucks power when watching video, so "runs for hours on 4 AA batteries" probably means audio, not video. It's probably pretty heavy, too, but I couldn't find weight or whether it has a belt clip.

    Uses Secure Digital/MMC cards rather than Compact Flash, but looks very cool.

    Yet another memory card format to contend with, ugh.

    Pretty hyped site. Little on useful information. :-/

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    1. Re:Too much hype... by ardiri · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Uses Secure Digital/MMC cards rather than Compact Flash, but looks very cool
      Yet another memory card format to contend with, ugh.


      va? SD/MMC have been out for a LONG time - its not news that they are being used within handhelds or portable equipment. they have been in use in both palm and pocket pc devices for well over two years now - not to mention that there are many cameras, mp3 players that use this format as well. if your going to bitch about a new format, try bitching about XD :)

    2. Re:Too much hype... by switcha · · Score: 2, Funny
      but I couldn't find weight or whether it has a belt clip.

      Because even beyond the flavor of embedded OS or Ogg support, the portable device deal breaker for the true geek is whether or not it can be added to the "belt arsenal".

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    3. Re:Too much hype... by No_Weak_Heart · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yet another memory card format to contend with, ugh.

      And yet another video codec. ugh indeed.

    4. Re:Too much hype... by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      CF and SD cards serve two different (but overlapping) markets.

      SD is great when the card has to be as small as possible. Some devices that use SD would have to be quite a bit larger in order to use CF instead.

      CF is "memory for the masses." If space is not the issue, then CF fits the bill. Because it is larger, you can fit a microdrive in the case. And if you want solid state, the case will hold a larger die and/or multiple dies in one package for storage galore.

      If both SD and CF were almost the same size, I could see the reason for your gripe. But one is smaller/expensive and the other is larger/versatile/cheaper.

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    5. Re:Too much hype... by ichthus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      CompactFlash should have won this battle by now, dammit!

      It's not a battle, really. It's a question of the device. Sure, it would be nice to have a single [cross-platform] standard that everyone can play with. But, a CF card would almost double the size of my MP3 player (MPIO FL100). In the case of small devices (no innuendos, pls.) the US postage stamp-sized SD is the way to go.

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  4. Hmmmm..... by HullBreach · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It'd be sweet to wire one of these into the front of a casing & set it up as a secondary monitor for performance data.

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  5. Why can't you just USE the damned thing?? by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 5, Funny
    "At the price of $99, I think it might be worth the investment for the hacking potential alone."

    I bet it could be used as a pretty neat MP3 and video player too!

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  6. Low Budget Porn Cards by DaRat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just wait till you get buy low budget porn cards. Then things will really take off.

    1. Re:Low Budget Porn Cards by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think that they'll need to start selling a stand or tripod or something, a "handheld" player would be useless for porn without one.

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    2. Re:Low Budget Porn Cards by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's the matter? You've got two hands, don't you?

      Yeah, and I need 'em both.

      LK

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  7. I just don get it... by DeionXxX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, I just don't get why you'd want to watch video's at a resolution so small.

    Hot new music videos, extreme radical sports, wild, action videos that wreak havoc and lay waste

    Who the hell uses the word "radical" anymore? WTF are "wild, action video that wreak havoc and lay waste" ... It sounds like the videos are going to shit on you..

    Ugh.. just lame...

    --D3X
    NeoX3.com: The One Site for Free Adult Entertainment...

  8. I hope their video players... by Rikardon · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...are more durable than their servers!

    Five comments, and already slashdotted. Sigh.

    =)

  9. zvue announced DivX and MP4 compatibility by i4u · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:zvue announced DivX and MP4 compatibility by Kenja · · Score: 4, Informative

      If by "standard" you mean "pay us another 70$ and we'll let you view DiVX files" then yes, its standard.

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      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    2. Re:zvue announced DivX and MP4 compatibility by jbezdek · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's a "informative" post? Hmm. Let me give a try at some real information.

      In reality, we subjected the ZVue player to our full battery of DivX Certified tests. There are several dozen test cases that use a large sample of representative DivX video content downloaded from the Internet. We make sure that every DivX Certified device meets minimum standards of quality (e.g., no freezes on high motion scenes, good ff and rew performance, and of course high-visual-quality DivX video playback) before we allow the product to be marketed using the DivX name. A typical product goes through several rounds of testing (with major and minor tweaks to hardware, firmware, etc. along the way) before it passes all the tests. :bez

  10. great... by thrillbert · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I'm really going to have to wait for a bathroom stall to open up.. portable pr0n.. just what we all needed...

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  11. Loading ... by No_Weak_Heart · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are they using this gadget to power their site?

  12. A CD-based device? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds interesting, but appears slashdotted already. In the mean time, does anyone know of a similar device which is Cd-based?

    Imagine one of those little round MP3-CD players, except it has a small color screen instead of 2 line LCD-readout, and it property display video files, .jpg/etc and text files from the CD (and of course play audio and MP3).

    Does such exist? Am I the only one who would be interested in it?

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    1. Re:A CD-based device? by Cyberllama · · Score: 3, Informative

      Iriver has announced exactly what you're describing -- theres pictures of it on various gadget sites. It's supposed to come out in April. . .

    2. Re:A CD-based device? by Cyberllama · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a picture/description of it:

      http://www.akibalive.com/archives/000524.html#mo re

  13. For $99 it's definitely by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    a hacking potential, and as for memory formats, who really cares? I have an xD card camera, and the card I have in it is going to stay in it (512MB) and the one that came with it, a 32MB card, is really too small to do anything with. My camera is also not going anywhere, and if it breaks, I'll get another one or one from the same line, as the features are what I want (shameless plug for Olympus Z-50). Granted, I'd prefer a less expensive format such as CF, but if it turns out to be something I like, the memory used for this one would probably also be restricted to just this one device.

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  14. where's the beef^H^H^H^Hspecs by tamarik · · Score: 2, Funny

    No specs at all that I can find but at the bottom of their FAQ is this:

    Why does the low battery indicator come on after I put in fresh batteries and use them for only a short time?

    Depending on the type and brand of battery, the low battery indicator may come on while there are still hours of battery life left. You can continue to use the ZVUE until the batteries actually run down. You should also be aware, that when the batteries are low, the ZVUE may not operate properly.

    huh?

  15. Wannabe - not quite by WhiteLudaFan · · Score: 5, Informative

    For what it is worth, Lil' Jon is a platinum selling rap artist. He currently is involved with 2 songs in the top 20 of the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles chart and 3 songs in the top 50 of the Hot 100.

    1. Re:Wannabe - not quite by boarder · · Score: 2, Funny

      He is also a major component of Chappelle Show comedy.

      YEEEEEAAHHHHHHH
      OKAAAY
      What?!
      What?!
      What?!
      What?!
      YEAAAAAAHHHHHHH

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      IANAL, but I play one on /.
    2. Re:Wannabe - not quite by Monkelectric · · Score: 3, Funny

      Being a "platinum selling rap artist" is alot like wining the special Olympics, yea you won, but you're still a retard.

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      Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    3. Re:Wannabe - not quite by jwriney · · Score: 4, Funny

      (scholarly voice)
      Lil' Jon : Pardon me, sir, but will this post reflect negatively upon my karma rating?
      Mod : It depends on if the other moderators find it funny.

      (brief pause)

      Lil' Jon : What?
      Mod : It depends on if the other moderators find it funny.
      Lil' Jon : What?
      Mod : It depends on if the other moderators find it funny.
      Lil' Jon : What?
      Mod: (-1, Troll)
      Lil' Jon : OKAYYYYYY!

      --riney
      (a-skeet skeet skeet skeet)

  16. Not so good by pcmanjon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've reviewed one of these directly from Hand Held Entertainment and it's not all it's cracked up to be, the design doesn't fit in your pocket (tested in bluejeans) very well and it only supports mp3 (not ogg)

    Additionally, they sent some of the proprietary cartridges to try out, 2 out of the 3 freebie proprietary cartridges we tested did not work.

    I wouldn't pay cash for it.

    Regards

  17. Look here by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Informative

    Look here. It is not the same site as the slashdotted one, but at least you can see what it looks like.

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    Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
  18. Re:a bit small? by Golias · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Add a TV tuner via USB or whatever, and it would be pretty nice for ice fishing. Especially if it had the capacity to "mini-Tivo" a few favorite shows which you could watch whenever you wanted. Ice fishing is fun, but two days of staring at nothing but your radar and your trap flags would be a nice thing to break up with an episode of Alias or something.

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    Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  19. Sharing photos without a computer by neves · · Score: 2, Funny

    $99 for a a nice gadget. Seeing videos in this small screen is awlful, but it looks great to show the digital photos of your last trip for your friends while drinking a beer without computers around. It should be cheaper to have just a photo display device. This is usually a good use of color PDAs, but they are expensive. Does anyone here know about a cheap, good, and linux compatible device just to display photos? An internal HD would be better than a compact flash one.

  20. ..low budget wrestling movies ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 3, Funny

    As opposed to the high budget wrestling movies like "No Holds Barred" and ...,ummm, "All The Marbles" and ...umm, ...films like that.

  21. You can play DiVX stuff too... by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative
  22. I apologize in advance... by liquidsin · · Score: 2, Funny

    In soviet Canada, Zed-View pronounces YOU!

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  23. ZVUE Development Community by ElliotLee · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Cybiko Forums has had posts about the ZVUE since October 2003. This is where the Stormplayer (latest version) Cybiko Video Player and other major Cybiko developments were revealed and discussed.


    Cybiko is a low-cost, hackable handheld computer released at the end of 2000. Forum leaders may soon expand the boards to officially cover the ZVUE - it's a logical step from the Cybiko computer.


    Feel free to discuss the ZVUE in the Development boards.

  24. Page text, for those that couldn't read it : by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Funny

    The page cannot be found
    The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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    Please try the following:

    If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

    Open the www.zvue.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
    Click the Back button to try another link.
    Click Search to look for information on the Internet.

    HTTP 400 - Bad Request
    Internet Explorer

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  25. Re:Why not? by p4ul13 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    hacking potential alone

    He didn't say it was hackable, just that the chances were good.

    Potential adj.
    1. Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem.
    2. Having possibility, capability, or power.
    3. Grammar. Of, relating to, or being a verbal construction with auxiliaries such as may or can; for example, it may be hackable.

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  26. Re:Full Color! High-Res! on a 2" x 2" screen :( by Yi+Ding · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd rather have a bigger screen at the cost of some color and video quality.

    Hmm.... Looks like I've found a buyer for my 5 year old 10" black and white TV. In fact, I'll sell it to you for the same price as this gadget, just 100 bucks.

  27. http://www.zvue.com/ Slashdotted by pcmanjon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since the main website is slashdotted, heres what it says on the home-page (not much for those of you expecting specs)

    ``You can be first to get a new ZVUE!

    The new ZVUE is here now! And it really plays full motion, color video right in the palm of your hand! Order the new ZVUE! and you'll be watching the coolest new music videos, extreme sports and outrageous action entertainment--while you're on the go, anytime, anyplace!

    > Order your ZVUE now!

    For just $99.00 you can be the first to own a ZVUE--the hottest new video product in years! With your cool new ZVUE you can view full-color, high-quality video right in the palm of your hand.

    Watch our exciting, new ZCARD! videos: Hot new music videos, extreme radical sports, wild, action videos that wreak havoc and lay waste--playing now on the ZVUE Player!"

  28. Hackable? by e.m.rainey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If it uses Secure Media for storage of said "mp3s and pictures", it's unlikely you'll be able to hack it unless you can crack the content keys, or provide your own "secured" media.

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  29. Re:But I've already got CF by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And I allready have SD/SDIO cards for my PDA. Whats your point? SD/SDIO is smaller and faster then CF. This is why its getting used more and more over CF. Should we be bitching that this thing isn't supporting six inch floppy disks as well?

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    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  30. PCMag Review link - also, it plays DivX by blorg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can be found here with picture of the thing here. Apparently it plays DivX too.

    1. Re:PCMag Review link - also, it plays DivX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hi. That is a press release from the company in question. They are trying to generate buzz for their product. Unfortunately, this thing does not play DiVX at this time. It may in the future, but don't spend your money until it does.

      Anyone know what the screen resolution on this thing is & what video output options it has?

  31. Well, there is the VideoNow by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hasbro has a device called the VideoNow

    . It's only $50, but the screen is black and white. It uses mini CD's, but from what I understand from a friend who tried to hack it, the CD-Now's have the boot data written on the inside of the CD further in from where normal burners write.

  32. 6-8 hours video by hyperventilate · · Score: 2, Informative
    When I show it to people they notice that it looks a lot better than video on a PDA. Mine runs 6-8 hours on the AA batteries.

    Doesnt suck power. It is hard to run a flashlight for 6-8 hours and the backlight is just as bright as one- so it uses an expensive LED backlight.

    Specs are 200 MHZ ARM9 with 160x234 screen at 24 bit color. The screen uses fast fluid for video unlike most PDA screens.

    It probably runs linux already.

    Pretty easy to re-encode videos to the DIVX Handheld or portable profile if they aren't already using VirtualDub and the free version of DIVX.

  33. Here are specs by AS400+Hacker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is a PDF with more detail.

    ZVue Specs

    It looks a little cheap to me, but for $99 I guess you can't get burned too bad.

  34. The IMPORTANT question is: by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...how long will it take for someone to reverse-engineer the format so that we can make our own SD/MMC cards with our own video (space-shifted from our legally-purchased DVD's [yes, I'm serious...] or 'home video'.)?

    That is the specific feature that'd make it useful to me. I have no need of a special proprietary-format-only player where the low-quality proprietary video cards cost as much as full DVD's, especially when portable DVD players seem to be obtainable these days for only $50-$100 more than this player is selling for.

    (Hmmm...what's the capacity of the SD cards with the proprietary movies on them? Can they be erased and used as normal SD cards for other applications?)

  35. Re:Six inch floppies? by Chasuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Either a masterstroke in obscure references or you made it up. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    Don't be so kind. There have never been "six inch floppy disks" - though there have been three inch floppy disks.

    However, consider that we still have people referring to 3.5" floppy disks as hard disks, to their monitor as their computer, and the actual tower case just as "that thing that you plug the printer into" and I'm not surprised.

  36. Compgeeks has them for $144.50. CF == minidrive by Linuxathome · · Score: 4, Informative

    Compgeeks has them for $144.50; you can check the site for the specs. It has MP4 capability, which is nice for you Xvid fans. For those of you who don't understand why we're griping that it has no CF slot, perhaps you'll understand better after I tell you that people have been getting cheap 4GB minidrive CF cards by cracking open devices such as the Creative Lab's Muvo2 MP3 player -- i.e. the higher capacity drives/memory cards so far, tend to be CF cards. It's still up in the air whether or not the 4GB minidrive from the Apple iPod can be used in devices that support CF Type II cards.

  37. Re:Six inch floppies? by martinX · · Score: 4, Funny

    When 3.5" floppies were introduced to South Africa, in order to distinguish them from the flexible and floppy 5.25" disks, they were called "stiffies" ... so the campaign was 'would you rather have a 5.25" floppy or a 3.5" stiffy".

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