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FF7 Advent Children Movie Trailers, Rumors

Wingchild writes "I noticed that the trailers for the new Final Fantasy 7 movie are online at Square-Enix (Squeenix?)'s website, an event as yet unmentioned on Slashdot. Available elsewhere are trailer screenshots and plotline theory. The release will be straight to DVD (Square might still be smarting after the unspectacular performance of The Spirits Within), but it'll still be neat to see what Squeenix is capable of on the ever-moving CG front." S!: The AdventChildren.net fansite also has details of an interview with Tetsuya Nomura, pointing out "the movie [or a new trailer] will be shown in some form at this year's E3", and noting that the past rumor that "the movie will be playable on the PS2 only" has not yet been quashed, although it hasn't been confirmed either.

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  1. PS2 Only? by orion024 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and noting that the past rumor that "the movie will be playable on the PS2 only" has not yet been quashed, although it hasn't been confirmed either. I'm not well versed in Sony and Sqaure's relationship... but it would seem that to limit the movie to PS2 would severely limit audience from which Square could draw on for sales (unless of course Sony was paying out the ying-yang for sole rights). Of course, it's only a rumor, but one I hope for the sake of those who don't have a PS2, as well for Square, is proven false.

    1. Re:PS2 Only? by incubusnb · · Score: 3, Interesting
      every source i've seen about this game says its in DVD Format, DVD Format isn't exclusive to the PS2.

      as a matter of fact if i can't play this on my DVD Player which is hooked up to my 53" Flatscreen (read: My Dads 53" Flatscreen) i will be pissed and will Boycott any future Movie attempt by Square.

      i may have a PS2, but that doesn't mean i want to move it everytime i want to watch this movie on the Bigscreen

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    2. Re:PS2 Only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      as a matter of fact if i can't play this on my DVD Player which is hooked up to my 53" Flatscreen (read: My Dads 53" Flatscreen) i will be pissed and will Boycott any future Movie attempt by Square.
      Wow, way to take a stand. Of course Square only makes a movie every four or five years and 99.999% of their business are video games, but you'll sure show them (somehow)!
    3. Re:PS2 Only? by May+Kasahara · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't know about that... think of all the marketing and such that took place when the original Final Fantasy VII sold out. There were a lot of PlayStations that were sold back then just because of that one game. And that's not to mention all the other Final Fantasy games exclusive to Sony consoles that have come afterwards.

      With the fan base for the game firmly entrenched in Sony hardware, I really don't see why exclusivity would be a major issue. Wouldn't the vast majority of people who are interested in Advent Children have a PS2 anyway?

    4. Re:PS2 Only? by tekunokurato · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was very different, in my opinion. That was a point at which the undisputably best game company around released a completely ground-breaking game on THE next-generation system and simultaneously announced that they would no longer be deving for nintendo. This? Sure, they've got an installed base of 40 million households in the US alone, but that doesn't mean everyone only wants to watch the dvd on those systems (which everyone who owns one knows have shitty quality!).

      I'm not saying it's impossible -- square has made some pretty dumb moves in the past. Only that this is not a market-moving release, and that consumers would hate it, not move with it.

  2. Ah, FF7 by XellDx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you hear that? Its the sound of Squaresoft cashing in on one of their most profitable games ever.

    Not that I don't blame them. I'm titilated at the prospect of entirely new content for that particular game's story, I wish instead that they'd gone ahead with the rumored PS2 remakes that where cancelled. At least I wish that had remade 7. With a better story.

    Or something.

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    1. Re:Ah, FF7 by Pluvius · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You forgot to mention that FF7 is the one Final Fantasy that should never, ever get a sequel. It completely ruins the already weak ending of the game.

      Rob

    2. Re:Ah, FF7 by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

      Actually, the reason the ending is "weak", is that the ending is too cute for it's own good.

      Meaning that it leaves with just as many mysteries than it comes in with.

    3. Re:Ah, FF7 by May+Kasahara · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But at the same time, so many fans have been clamoring for years for a sequel to be made (I'm not one of them; I wanted the remake ^_~). Square has been avoiding doing so for just as long... so you can't blame all of this on the company, really.

      Look on the bright side-- with all the renewed focus on FF7, lots of shiny new collectables have been coming out. And DigiCube finally got off their ass and released a FF7 Piano Collections :D

    4. Re:Ah, FF7 by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      Square has been avoiding doing so for just as long... so you can't blame all of this on the company, really.

      I can blame Square for listening to its hardcore fans, yes. Remember what happened last time they did that? FF9.

      Rob

    5. Re:Ah, FF7 by YaRness · · Score: 1

      Remember what happened last time they did that? FF9.

      as opposed to FF8, where they try to recapture the profitabilitymagic of FF7 with twice as much angst and 4 times the side quests?

      FF9 was a breath of fresh back-to-basics-air after FF8

    6. Re:Ah, FF7 by XellDx · · Score: 1

      If you think 8 was based on profitablity and side quests then you never played Kingdom Hearts. Or anything released by Enix in the last 4 years. Or any survival horror game.

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    7. Re:Ah, FF7 by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      as opposed to FF8

      FF8, being just behind FF7 as the best Final Fantasy. So yes, I would say "as opposed to FF8."

      Rob

  3. This should be easy. by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    So basically, what they are doing is just re-releasing FF7, without all the annoying bits where you have to fiddle with the controller.
    Ok, its a cheap shot, but was FF7 much more than an interactive movie to begin with? Seems that this is just a logical progression. Take the most successful itteration of the series, improve the graphics and take the last drops of "game" out of it.

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    1. Re:This should be easy. by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      So basically, what they are doing is just re-releasing FF7, without all the annoying bits where you have to fiddle with the controller.

      They already did that. Didn't you get the memo?

      Rob

    2. Re:This should be easy. by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Yup, saw it, actually liked it, best Final Fantasy in a long time. But it sounds like they are being even more direct this time, but just taking one of thier interactive movies for a game console and takeing the interactive part out of it.

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    3. Re:This should be easy. by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      But it sounds like they are being even more direct this time, but just taking one of thier interactive movies for a game console and takeing the interactive part out of it.

      They already did that. Didn't you get the memo?

      Rob (See, what I'm trying to say here is that TSW was already a remake of FF7)

    4. Re:This should be easy. by Brother+Grifter · · Score: 1

      Why? Because it has to do with the gaea, i.e. lifestream. The guy who wrote the story to FF VII also wrote the story to TSW. You have the same mind behind both.

      Most creative people find a niche, like Spielberg. He does WW2 movies mostly, because thats his thing, thats what he's into. No one ever says, "Great, one more WW2 movie from Spielberg." Instead it usually gets an applause. So whats the difference between the cat using his gaea ideas in several different creative pieces and Spielberg?

    5. Re:This should be easy. by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      Why? Because it has to do with the gaea, i.e. lifestream.

      That's probably the main rehash, but there are others.

      Most creative people find a niche, like Spielberg. He does WW2 movies mostly, because thats his thing, thats what he's into. No one ever says, "Great, one more WW2 movie from Spielberg." Instead it usually gets an applause. So whats the difference between the cat using his gaea ideas in several different creative pieces and Spielberg?

      I'm not sure where you got the idea that there was anything wrong with this from my post. I was just pointing it out. I thought TSW was an OK movie, even if it wasn't very original.

      Rob

  4. Link to AVI trailer by Newtonian_p · · Score: 3, Informative

    That flash-video thing sucks, a link to an AVI of the trailer.

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  5. You guys are so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see this as an apology for "The Spirits Within." This is pretty much what everyone wanted when they first heard Square was making a feature movie. Instead, we got this weird sci-fi trip that only relates to Final Fantasy if you look at the philosophical roots.

    So, finally they are making the 'REAL' final fantasy movie. Fancy swordfights, magic, etc.

    I've watched one trailer so far, and it's really dark, and pretty much 'black and white.' I hope that's not what the movie ends up as.

    They need to run the whole gamut. Bright colors, happiness, flying machines, forests, chocobos, maybe even a small section with that crazy gambling joint. They need to have a bunch of the characters from the game, (although hopefully only a came from that cat riding the pink marshmallow thing.)

    Don't be afraid to make a movie out of the game...(instead of just a movie with the same name as the game.)

    1. Re:You guys are so negative by Pluvius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is pretty much what everyone wanted when they first heard Square was making a feature movie. Instead, we got this weird sci-fi trip that only relates to Final Fantasy if you look at the philosophical roots.

      The funny thing is that every entry in the Final Fantasy franchise only relates to Final Fantasy if you look at the philosophical roots.

      Rob (Anyone who thinks that TSW wasn't a proper FF movie doesn't know what he's talking about)

    2. Re:You guys are so negative by adler187 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "although hopefully only a came from that cat riding the pink marshmallow thing"

      First of all, have you played the FFVII?

      "I've watched one trailer so far, and it's really dark, and pretty much 'black and white.' I hope that's not what the movie ends up as."

      You must have had watched a flawed video or you are colorblind, because from what I have seen it is not just black and white.

      Since, at the end of VII, the world that was left was pretty grim and all, somehow I doubt there will be much happiness, flying machines, forests, or chocobos or even the crazy gambling joint (otherwise known as the Gold Saucer, if you played the game).

      From what I have seen in the trailers, everything looks great and has the same feel as FFVII, I think FFVII:AC will be great.

    3. Re:You guys are so negative by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      *Ahem*

      I don't get the venom aimed at The Spirits Within..a lot of people say it doesn't fit in to the Final Fantasy canon (it does).

      The movie, on its face is one of the best sci-fi movies to hit the screen in a long time. The amount of detail given to the world they created is insane.

      As well, people complain that it's "not Final Fantasy"..well..it is..it just happens to be kind of our "Final Fantasy". It takes place in the US, of course. And it happens in the future, which fits for doing that.

      Anyway, enough ranting on that :p

    4. Re:You guys are so negative by llefler · · Score: 1

      I see this as an apology for "The Spirits Within." This is pretty much what everyone wanted when they first heard Square was making a feature movie. Instead, we got this weird sci-fi trip that only relates to Final Fantasy if you look at the philosophical roots.

      Maybe that's why I liked The Spirits Within, I've never even seen an FF game. But I was interested in the CGI and the production quality as much as the story line. I think if I was an actor, I'd be concerned about the advances in CGI and the power of PC clusters. Voice-over work won't pay near as well, and once the CGI is completely realistic, they'll probably start working on computer generated voices too.

      After I watched the movie on the Sci-Fi channel, I went out and bought the DVD.

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    5. Re:You guys are so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I liked FF:TSW I thought the 'technical' quality was great. (Although I would have prefered someone other than Affleck.) I've watched it a million times, pre-ordered the DVD at the first possible time, I've even watched it in story-board mode a couple times.

      The BIGGEST problem I had with it is that I couldn't show it to any of my friends. (I need to get new friends.) There wasn't ONE of my 'normal' friends who could stand to watch more than 20 minutes of it.

      They couldn't stand that they weren't real people. (These are the same friends who can't watch "The Hulk". They say he looks fake. I have to tell them that actually he looks GREEN!!)

      They also can't imagine animation, or sci-fi being serious and 'deep.'

      FF:TSW is created completely for an audience who loves the concept of it before they even see the movie. Newly introduced viewers can't stomach it.

    6. Re:You guys are so negative by crazyhussar · · Score: 1

      you must not have enough time on your hands :) last time i beat FFVII, if you watch through the credits, you see a shot of Red XIII with 2 little fluffy-lion things (although supposedly he was supposed to be the last of his kind...but...*shrug*

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  6. Casting? by spood · · Score: 1

    Is Ben Affleck starring in this one, too?

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    1. Re:Casting? by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      you mean alec baldwin?

    2. Re:Casting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends. Will you not be smoking crack during this one?

  7. Well thank god. by JonBovi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm definitely not a FF7 fanboy, but at least basing a film on the most popular FF episode makes *sense*, compared to wasting the brand name on a truly horrid piece of sci-fi drek that made Space Mutiny look like Star Wars.

    Of course, pointing a camcorder at a pc playing Duke Nukem 3D would have made a better movie than FF: The Spirits Within...

  8. woot? by call_me_leon · · Score: 0

    this could be a really good movie, however, im curious if they are going to ruin it, as most movies tend to do (ie. resident evil). any of the comic book themed movies portrayed the stories about as well as arnold speaks english. i mean, im excited about the movie, just a little worried that it will be so far from the game.

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    1. Re:woot? by Pluvius · · Score: 1, Insightful

      any of the comic book themed movies portrayed the stories about as well as arnold speaks english.

      One word: Spiderman.

      Rob (Only major difference was MJ standing in for Gwen Stacy)

    2. Re:woot? by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

      Agreed..

      And to be fair, the Spiderman movie was based upon the retelling of the Peter Parker story..not the original.

      And the change makes sense within the context of the character.

    3. Re:woot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear they're doing the same thing with the new "Batman" movie.

      You wont even see batman until 1/2 way through.

  9. wtf by IshanCaspian · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Did anyone else have ABSOLUTELY no idea what that guy in the trailer was talking about? Something about a keesanai dayshoe.

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    1. Re:wtf by Dodger73 · · Score: 1

      If I'm not mistaken, Daisho is the Japanese expression for the combination of a traditional long (Daito) and short (Tanto) sword. It's generally regarded as an expression for something being 'well equipped', having the right combination of things required to perform a task, something along those lines (Disclaimer: IANAJAL/T (I Am Not A Japanese Linguist/Translator)).

      Kisan means something like beginning to count, beginning to number something.
      Of course, there can be a number of different meanings to this, depending on the context, or what words were actually used. Where I've heard Daisho used as the above, it can also mean "Scribe", according to a dictionary, and words with a very similar sound exist as well (for example Daishou which can means General (or maybe "military leader" or "warrior leader" as a more generic meaning), and can also mean the "size" of something.
      I don't know much Japanese (not much more than being able to count to ten), but have found that certain intonations and contexts can change the meaning of words. These intonation changes can be so subtle that an untrained 'western ear' may not even be able to make a distinction. Naturally, hilarity often ensues.

      Second disclaimer: This is an absolute layman's interpretation of the parent post. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge of the Japanese can help?

    2. Re:wtf by YomikoReadman · · Score: 1

      go here for a translated version of the trailer. You'll need a bittorrent client.

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  10. Hell Yes by FueledByRamen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Best Final Fantasy game, meet proper 3d rendered graphics. I'll take eight! I hope they don't decide to do something stupid, like drop a character (Cid and Nanaki/Red XIII come to mind), and/or some major chunk of the plot. I see that Vincent is included, which is cool. I guess that all I can do is wait and see what it's like when it's released...

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    1. Re:Hell Yes by Kalak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones, which have a lining of Iridium & Strontium 90)

      Your .sig seems wrong posted in this context. I don't believe we've gotten to see what his jacket is lined with.

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  11. Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What made Final Fantasy 7 good for you? How long have you been playing the series?

    Just curious questions.

    1. Re:Offtopic by wolssiloa · · Score: 1

      His first FF game was probably FF7, that's why he thinks it's the best. Anybody who knows everything about FF knows that FF2 and FF6 are superior to FF7.

  12. Also on Adventchildren.net... by May+Kasahara · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...is the even cooler trailer from FFX-2 International + Last Mission. Just to warn you now: you're going to need an up-to-date DivX codec to be able to play it.

  13. OK, people... by josh+glaser · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...it seems like a lot of you are either a bit mistaken or have no clue what your talking about, but here's the scoop on Advent Children:

    It is NOT a film version of the game. They're not taking the game and removing the gameplay bits (though a movie retelling of FFVII's story would still be worth seeing), they're making a movie sequel to the game. It is an entirely new plotline, taking place two years after the events of FFVII, and it has something to do with a disease called the "Star Mark Syndrome." Not much else about the plot is known.

    My thoughts on the movie? It looks bloody awesome. Cloud looks right, the environment looks right, Barret looks...different (but still right), etc. I'm greatly anticipating it.

    Now, could somebody fill me in? Is this trailer the one that was released a while ago, when SE announced the movie (the one that started with "Two Years Later," had some motorcycle and fighting bits, and ended with the logo) or is it a whole new enchilada? I'd like to know before I download it on my sucky dialup. Thanks.

    1. Re:OK, people... by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      yes its that trailer not the longer version... sept apparently the original trailer started with the lifestream and a voiceover all in japanese, then went two years later

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    2. Re:OK, people... by wickedj · · Score: 1

      Here's what I've garnered from the rumours: Cloud is back and is trying to figure out this new illness afflicting people. Aparrently, it has something to do with the "Holy" materia (that which was used to repel Meteor). Holy was meant to protect the world from anything that threatens it. Meteor was the immediate threat but humans can be regarded as a threat as well, especially after abusing materia like Shin-ra did. During his investigation, he runs across 3 Sephiroth look-alikes (clones maybe), which we see him sword fight with one and then later on, we see two (one with spikey hair and the other with medium length hair) of them shooting at him. Barret is back as well as Vincent. No word on Tifa, Yuffie, Nanaki or a resurrected Aerith.

      Interviews suggest that the story is more about survival than the cure for the illness and the healing of the planet. From the end of FF7 we know things will turn out fine albeit, humans may longer exist. The location of the story is secret but is supposed to be hidden within the logo for the movie. The movie is planned at being only 60 minutes and depending of its success, could lead to a more FF7 productions such as a new game or another movie.

  14. psst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parent was a joke...the trailer's in japanese...get it?

  15. Ben Affleck? No... by Mitleid · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think it's sort of interesting (and humourous) how many people in this topic have mistakenly referred to the character in FF:TSW as "Ben Affleck" (AKA Pancake Head; maybe SP fans can enlighten me: where the hell DID that come from? HAHAHA. Regardless, I only refer to Ben Affleck as Pancake Head since seeing that episode...), when it was actually a CG model that looked A LOT like Ben Affleck but voiced by Alec Baldwin. I was confused too when the movie first had trailer's released; I thought the CG models were based off of the "real-life" actors who were doing their voices. Pretty influencial and powerful stuff, that CG...

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  16. The Spirits Within by krazykong · · Score: 1

    You know, I was just watching Final Fantasy, the spirits within with a friend who hasn't seen it. It was on cable and we turned it on half way through. So, I was explaining the "Gaia" thing and how it related to FF7 and FF8, and all he could respond with was..."These guys have guns that kill ghosts?"... "They have a satellite laser cannon, that kills ghosts?"

  17. Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 by man_ls · · Score: 1

    Microsoft just sent me 10 copies of MS VPC 2004.

    I'm going to run Windows 98 inside of them, for the sole purpose of playing FF7 PC again.

    1. Re:Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can play ff7 (patched) in winblows xp just fine.

      are you trolling or are you serious?

  18. The spirits within. by AzraelKans · · Score: 1

    A lot of people have given a lot of crap about "not understanding" spirits within because it was a philosophical movie and "artsy", weither you like it or not that movie was crap, not because they touched subjects that are difficult to swallow for an american audience. Gaia and the "amalgalm/battle" of technology and spirituality, are subjects which have been treated with mastery in films such as "princess mononoke, spirited away, akira" and even in the final fantasy series themselves with enormous success.
    The movie is a completely arithmic mess, cartoony characters a completely ungullible geeky script "so the monsters are ghosts? gee thats scary!" not only the director failed to make you feel sympathy over any character, whenever there was a hole in the script (everywhere) the characters pulled their guns and you were subdued to another "action" scene. It also relied to the "lets kill a character to add some drama" trick, unfortunately like you didnt cared for any of these bozos it didnt worked. Besides they really, really pulled the amalgalm too hard in the way of silliness, killer "space ghosts" are one thing, but containers that held spirits, and laser surgery in surgery is a bit too much. I just hope theres another director and script writer(s) working on AC otherwise the suckability is quite high.

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