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Mono Poises to Take Over the Linux Desktop
Edd Dumbill writes "Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team recently hosted a two day open meeting in Boston. O'Reilly have just published
my report of the meeting. Highlights include
Miguel's view that 'C is dead!' and the Mono approach
to dealing with Microsoft patents on .NET."
C is dead? Has Netcraft confirmed this?
"I once thought I had Mono for an entire year, just turned out I was really bored..."
Karma: Terrible
long live c!
"C is dead!" + slashdot == pain
Will Mono Become the Preferred Platform for Linux Development?
by Edd Dumbill
Why the hell would I believe someone with the name of Edd Dumbill?
That must be the "Alan Smithee" of the so-called "tech writers." It's probably just dumbshit Alan Seeburgh in disguise, playing hooke from CNN.
Are we supposed to clap?
"Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
Great, now users will be stuck fixing Windows and Linux exploits while using Mono
There is a solid microsoft underground. Just last week I downloaded Windows 2003 and Office 2003!
(not really)
C is dead. Wow. Heyyy, isn't *BSD written in C? Hmmm...
LONG LIVE PASCAL!
This has been a public service announcement from the Preservationists for the Society of Pascal Users (PSPU).
Thanks
Johnny Pascal
It seems we get 5 articles a week explaining how Linux isn't ready for the desktop. How can Mono take over something that experts assure us doesn't exist?
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Languages written in C:
....
perl
python
ruby
I don't know about anything else, but the Whigs were a political party for christ sakes.
- C.
Pascal? Not a chance. Cobol and Fortran will rise from the ashes and take over the world!
Mono = Mono poly = .NET
Mono + .NET = ?
It is official; Netcraft confirms: C is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered C community when IDC confirmed that C market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that C has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. C is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Programming Language Usage Audit.
You don't need to be Scott McNealy to predict C's future. The hand writing is on the wall: C faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for C because C is dying. Things are looking very bad for C. As many of us are already aware, C continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
C++ is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time C developers Mark Markup and Sally Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: C is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
C++ leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of C++. How many users of C# are there? Let's see. The number of C++ versus C# posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 C# users. C++ posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of C# posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of C++. A recent article put C# at about 80 percent of the C market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 C++ users. This is consistent with the number of C++ Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Redmond, abysmal sales and so on, C++ went out of business and was taken over by Microsoft who sell another troubled programming language. Now C# is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that C has steadily declined in market share. C is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If C is to survive at all it will be among language dilettante dabblers. C continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, C is dead.
Fact: C is dying
After a long time searching I found these alternative names they considered.
Foot gout
Genital Herpes
Oily discharge
1) When people think of ..., or "mono," they often think of extreme tiredness as one of the major symptoms associated with this illness.
Ditto
2) Loss of appetite and generalized weakness also may be present, especially in adolescents. Nausea, hepatitis, jaundice, severe headache, stiffness, chest pain, and difficulty breathing can occur in some cases. A pink rash can occur all over the body in children who have been treated with ampicillin or amoxicillin.
ditto again!
3) Some may experience extreme fatigue, staying in bed for more than a week because they feel too weak even to walk around the house.
We're three for three (esp. after a failed Windows update session...)
4) 'Mono' is generally a self-limiting disease, which means it goes away on its own in most cases. Occasionally mono can cause complications
Need I say more...
5) Epidemic outbreaks in hospitals and workplaces have occurred.
` My biggest fear! Remember kids - practice safe computing!
"I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
.NET has trippled my productivity (on the Windows platform)
Anything other than MFC would triple your productivity.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
.NET is designed to be and sold as a "cross platform" solution
Don't bogart that joint, my friend. It sounds like good shit!
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
FORTRAN is mad sweet, yo
The "Insert Quote Here" line is almost as predictable as inserting an actual quote.
Great! Now there's only 25 letters I have to teach my kids.
So far, there's a surprising enthusiasm for Mono and C#
Latebreaking news flash! A reporter attends a Mono lovefest and discovers that the attendees are having a lovefest!
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Actually what he should have typed
.NET runtime is a promising platform. Microsoft didn't just dream this up overnight... Sun had a lot of smart people working a long time creating this beast."
"I realize that this is an unpopular opinion here on Slashdot, but C# is actually a pretty cool language and the
What does Mono stand for? I heard it stands for 'Microsoft, Oh No'
Cheers,
RoadkillBunny
Building Gnome on top of Mono is fine, really I see no problem with it, but why would I want a desktop with a smelly foot on it?
No, .NET is full featured across all one supported OS.
taken! (by Davidleeroth) Thanks Bingo Foo!
actually, .net is fully featured across all of its supported OS's as well. It's just that its supported operating systems are Win98, WinME, Win2k, WinXP, and Win2k3. And Longhorn.
iRooster, the Mac OS X a
Of course C is dead, it has been for years.
Anyone who wants can even go and look at the scrolls.
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
The whole idea of chasing after a proprietary standard like .Net...
My old man used to tell me, before he left this sh*tty world, never chase standards or women. You'll get left behind every time.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
Once you sit down and use VS.net, you'll know why it's the best development set.
.NET (maybe VB), it always gets in the way, and all those side bars make the working area way too small (and if set to autohide, it's even more shit to get in the way).
/bin/vi, because of the f**king intellisense popups always popping up over something I'm trying to read, and trying to be clever, such that if I type Xml.Something, it will write XmlDataDocument.Something, because I used XmlDataDocument the last time. So, I use backspace until it says "Xml", and put a dot there, and staight back to "XmlDataDocument." - ok, so backspace again, until it says Xml, and then press ESC a few times to close all the f**king intellisense popups, so that I can add a dot without getting my code changed to something completely different.
Funny, VS is the thing I hate most about
I press ESC more in VS than I do in
Of course, I could just turn intellisense off, and if the libraries made any kind of sense, I definitely would. But with this confusing POS, I would be using 80% of my time searching the help, instead of the current 40%.
I can write a web server in bash in one line! AND it installs itself.
apt-get install apache
verily... bash has gazillionized my productivity... it used to take me over six months to write a decent web server.
-pyrrho
Nope.
"Miguel de Icaza is dead" -- C
MOD THE CHILD UP!
OneOfTheBigReasonsThatI DislikeJavaAndC PlusPlusOrAtLeastThe WayTheyAreCommonlyProgrammed IsTheStandardizationOf LotsOfNamesThatAre HardToReadBecause OfBeingAllJammedTogether. YesItCanBeReadButI FindItSlowsThingsDown AndIsMoreStressfulToDoSoI JustDoNotLikeItVeryMuchAtAll.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars