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Junkie Loves His Spam

VicPylon writes "Here is the reason we have to spend time and money on spam filters. This character actually responds to and buys from spam. I wonder if he is aware that he is supporting digital pollution?" I guess this proves that there really is something for everyone online.

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  1. Whats his email? by brejc8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interesting they didn't give out his email address.

    1. Re:Whats his email? by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course not. He doesn't want to be spammed with real messages. He's probably even got an E-mail filter that removes everything but spam.

    2. Re:Whats his email? by Psmylie · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember the days when you could give out your email address on the web (like on your own website!) and you would only get meaningful email

      Yeah, that was a good week.

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    3. Re:Whats his email? by bhtooefr · · Score: 5, Informative

      RTFA. He treats spam as a store that comes to you in your inbox, and sells some stuff online (via a semi-legit site, and spam). He's not just a spam-victim, he's a spammer, too. He even said he ran a couple of porn sites and squatted a few domain names.

    4. Re:Whats his email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's probably even got an E-mail filter that removes everything but spam.

      So do I... it's called "Hotmail"

  2. Really... by hookedup · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is only so much male enhancement products a man can buy.

    They seem to be the only spam i've been getting lately. Maybe my wife is feeding them my email addresses...

    1. Re:Really... by brejc8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of a spoof spam male enhancement pyramid scheme.
      You divide your penis into one inch parts and send them off to the people on the list and forward the email on.
      Within a week you will receive 20feet of penis.

    2. Re:Really... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      There is only so much male enhancement products a man can buy.

      He prbably doesn't need a belt.

      I can't help but wonder how many worms and virii are on his computer, not to mention spyware.

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    3. Re:Really... by phutureboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've thought it would be funny to buy and use each and every penis enlargement product pitched to me via spam for one year, and document the results on a weblog. At the end of that year, I bet my schlong would be enormous.

    4. Re:Really... by Cruciform · · Score: 5, Funny

      It will be great when spammers finally start seeing jail time.

      They'll be receiving unlimited penis!

    5. Re:Really... by thelasttemptation · · Score: 5, Funny

      Eleven rings, thank you very much... :P

  3. Not against SPAM by bsharitt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is why I'm not completly against Spam, but I wish they would clearly mark it so those who don't want it won't get it and this guy will.

    1. Re:Not against SPAM by interiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As long as the economics of spam mean that there's nearly nothing stopping more people from sending it, virtually guaranteeing that the signal/noise ratio of my mailbox will go down for the rest of time, I'm against it. Until that can be fixed (legislatively, technically, whatever), I think most spammers will be hated, independant of whatever they might be selling or whoever might be buying it.

  4. Maybe it's true by Gzip+Christ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, I get it now. Those "enlarge your penis" spams really do work - if you respond to them, you're nothing but a big dick.

  5. Sheeeeesh! by trp642 · · Score: 5, Funny
    How much can one actually love spam? Its not like there is a huge selection of products. Mr. Soto can now claim the following:
    • He has the world's largest penis, that is never flacid.
    • He makes $10k working at home in his spare time.
    • He's seen Paris Hilton nekkid more than anyone.
    • His wife's breasts are larger.
    • He has the lowest mortgage rate in the world.

    Did I miss anything? I mean damn, how many different ways can you spell V!@G.RA???!
    1. Re:Sheeeeesh! by gosand · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think you mean...

      He has the woOrld's la.rG_est Pae.n.is, that is nev@r fflAccid.

      He makes $10k woarKING @t homme in his sp.a.re ti_me.

      He's seen P.a r is Hi+ltoon nek&kid more than anyone.

      His wife's br*ea=sts are la%rg"er.

      He has the lowest M.0rt6a6e Re.ate in the w0r1D.

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    2. Re:Sheeeeesh! by lordholm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny thing about spam-filters. I know a doctor and she complained about how all the e-mail about Viagra (sent from colleagues) got lost, she did however get lot's of spam containing the spelling V!@G.RA (or there about).

      She and her colleagues now use codewords to describe the drug in e-mail.

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  6. Spam and legitimate business do not mix by PingKing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem I would have with buying *anything* from a spam email is the fact that the company has resorted to spam to pitch their wares. To me, it always smells of desperation and contempt for the customer.

    In the current anti-spam climate, a company cannot use spam to market themselves and be seen as a professionally-run organisation.

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  7. Hypocrisy? by PincheGab · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So in the name of freedom, we should suppress freedom?

    If the guy wants to buy from spammers, let him. We have to fight spam from another angle, not by supressing people's rights to do stupid things.

  8. Sounds fishy by dhclab49 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How does a guy earning $40k per year have a 2 bedroom apartment in Midtown Manhattan?

  9. We should encourage spam buying by pyser · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to the article it takes one buyer out of 15,000 e-mails sent in order to break even. If more people would buy from spam, they'd have to send out fewer e-mails to break even, right?

  10. Real vs "Scam" Spam? by FreemanPatrickHenry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be interested to see how often he pays for something he never receives...

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  11. Orlando Soto is a spammer by dazed-n-confused · · Score: 5, Informative

    See this post on news.admin.net-abuse.email: Orlando Soto sells spamming tools to desperate webmasters. Funny he didn't mention that to the journalist...

    1. Re:Orlando Soto is a spammer by mrex · · Score: 5, Informative

      See this post on news.admin.net-abuse.email: Orlando Soto sells spamming tools to desperate webmasters. Funny he didn't mention that to the journalist...

      And double funny that the journalist didn't, you know, do some research and figure this out for himself.

      Basically, the WSJ has through incompetence (at best) given a spamming scammer some free PR, which said spammer naturally used to tell a ceaseless stream of lies in the hopes of spawning more gullible people to relieve of their money. When was the last time you got spammed to buy a pinball machine, anyway?

      Let's take a look at just what Mr. Soto's real connection to spam is:

      In my 20+ years involved with programming and software development, I have never seen a quality collection of software like this made available for sale for such a low price!

      And lemme guess, before you became "involved with programming and software development" you were what, a used car salesman?

      * Instant Unzip - This small, easy to use program walks you step-by-step through the process of Unzipping a ZIP file you have received. A must have utility!

      Wow. Unzip. Truly a must have utility, which is I'm sure why MS built one into their OS.

      * HTML Compressor - Compress the size of your HTML files (web pages) so they take up less space, bandwidth and also so they can't be viewed as easily by others.

      Hard to tell from the description what this is, but could it be the matching ZIP routine to that fancy-schmancy "unzip" thing they're selling you?

      * IP Blocker - Protect yourself against a new type of annoying pop up spam message called IP Ads that can be sent directly to your computer anytime while you are online.

      Darn those "IP Ads"!!! Darn them all to heck!!!

      * HTML Encryptor - Encrypts your web page so it is unreadable by human eyes trying to view the source code. Has various features to protect page elements from theft.

      Awesome. I really must find out how he's managed to develop an encryption algorythm which is already understood by every browser including Netscape 1.1N but which is completely uncrackable by human beings!

      [snip pages of equivalent crap that can be yours for the low low price of $24.95]

      I'd be amused if I weren't so sure at least one person had bought this crap.

  12. Don't be so hard on this man by Eponymous+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I don't believe this man is an idiot. Instead, it sounds like he is suffering from OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). Specifically, it sounds like a form of hoarding (I hope that link can handle the traffic--Google cache of the main page here), where one simply cannot refuse to buy things that are presented to him or her.

    The Internet, and spam, is just providing an unfortunately convenient way for him to acquire these purchases.

    The article explains that he used to hunt rummage sales, thift stores, and flea markets, then turned to the Internet after hurting his back. He buys on eBay, and via spam. Spam is just one part of his disease, and it made an interesting story. From the tour his wife gave of their apartment, it sounds like he doesn't need most of the stuff he buys--a typical symptom of hoarding.

    Another symptom will be that he is unable to throw away things that he has purchased (like those boxes of vitamins), even if he doesn't need them or they are no longer of value.

    OCD medication is usually ineffective for hoarding, but counseling can help.

    At any rate, he does not respresent a typical email user, but at the same time, he is not alone. It is unfortunate, but there are people with these kinds of disorders out there, and they play right into the hands of spammers and telemarketers. The sad thing is when people take advantage of them.

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  13. Re:Doesn't this seem like a put-on? by kiolbasa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The whole article seems a bit phony. Especially the use of the word "anti" by Mr. Soto. There is one group of people who are fond of using the word "anti" to describe those who dislike spam. I get a strong feeling that this is not just some innocent guy that likes to buy from spam, and his admission of spamming once before leaves me even more suspicious.

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  14. Why are highly rated comments always sarcastic? by pileated · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was on the front page of WSJ yesterday so I assume they did some fact checking on it. It wasn't buried in the back of the paper.

    That said, my first reaction, is one I always have: why when an interesting topic comes up: why do I find only sarcastic/hopefully humorous comments get through my level 4 filter? Still waiting for an answer on that.

    I read the article in paper and my reaction was that they did everyone a service by writing about such people. I have no idea why anyone would buy this stuff but the fact of the matter is that spammers wouldn't spam if they didn't make money from it. MS will only change the type of software they make when they don't make money from it. It's a simple, though perhaps unlikeable fact. For every piece of junk that clutters your tv screen, your mailbox or whatever there is a reason for it other than just to bother you (and me!). It's there because someone is making money from it and because someone, like the guy in article, actually buys it.

    I don't think educating such buyers is a reasonable option. Sort of like educating the user of one OS to choose to go to another one. This afternoon I'm going to educate my .NET co-workers to move to Java. I don't think so.

    But the only way to solve a problem is to understand it. The more we understand people like this guy the more likely it is that someone can find a way to direct spam/bad commercials to them and not the rest of us. Maybe a Do Call Me list.

  15. Re:Just Goes To Show... by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    no the guy is not an idiot...

    he's a spammer. read the article... He buys items and re-sells them on his "websites"...

    This ladies and gentlemen, is a spammer, he is trying to do PR for his "industry" and if he was to be researched a bit further we would see what spam companies he is behind...

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  16. What I don't understand... by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If so much spam actually finds buyers, why don't any of these people honor opt-outs?

    And if there's really people like Mr. Soto, what's the problem with actually having opt-in?

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  17. The problem with that theory is by RLiegh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article shows him refusing a number of emails that are presented to him. So, while I tend to agree with you on the hoarding part, I think either it is not to a pathological degree -or it's a different pathology entirely.

  18. Re:Just Goes To Show... by r2vf · · Score: 5, Funny

    no the guy is not an idiot...

    he's a spammer.

    *throat clearing noise*

  19. Stipples. by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Journal started using stippled portraits, or hedcuts in 1979. Apparently, they remind readers of currency or engraved stock certificates. Although the style can be approximated with image filters, the WSJ's hedcuts are hand drawn.

  20. The voice of reason. by neurojab · · Score: 5, Informative

    DON'T harass this guy. If you do, you're certainly worse than any spammer.

    Yes, he's contributing to the spam problem (probably without realizing it), but it's not like he's going around clubbing baby seals. He just has an unhealthy shopping addiction. Calling and harassing people is not going to solve anything. Instead, write an article on "why responding to SPAM is BAD" and get it printed. Do something constructive.

    Editors: Please remove the post containing his phone number. This kind of crap is giving Slashdot a bad name.