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Novell Announces SUSE Linux 9.1
ravydavygravy writes "Novell today released details of the next incarnation of its linux products, Suse 9.1, based on the 2.6 kernel. It will come in both 32 and 64-bit versions, and includes a LiveCD version, to help people convince their Windows-loving friends to make the switch. It'll ship with Gnome 2.4.2 and KDE 3.2.1, as well as demo versions of the text processing application Textmaker and the spreadsheet application Planmaker (from Softmaker - but do we really need another office suite?). Samba 3 will also feature in the default setup."
"SUSE LINUX 9.1 will be available at http://store.suse.com and from bookstores and software suppliers on May 6. The recommended retail price of SUSE LINUX 9.1 Personal (two CDs, installation guide, 30 days of installation support) is $29.95. SUSE LINUX 9.1 Professional (five CDs, two double-sided DVDs, user guide and administration guide, 90 days of installation support) is $89.95. The update edition of SUSE LINUX 9.1 Professional is $59.95."
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You can follow news leading up to the release, as well as blogs of members of the SuSE community as 9.1 approaches at Planet SuSE
Listening for the sound of the coming rain...
The other day I installed SuSE on my machine I'm building for my four year old. I bought the professional version of it for $80 at Best Buy, and was blown away. It was the easiet install of any OS period.
The two manuals are beautiful. It comes with six cd's and a DVD with everything the six dics have. Talk about going out of your way for the customer.
Josh
Its a Linux distribution worth paying for.
I used to have SuSE 8.0 (back in 2002) and it was the best KDE 3.0 based distribution out there. It even supported my TV card (which took ages for the other distributions to support).
So, if you are new to linux, or you want a good working Linux distribution for office work and business, get SuSE. Its not expensive (about 40 pounds, which is less than an OEM windows xp in the UK), plus you get full printed manuals (RTFM has never been so easy), comes withs stickers (I still have a SuSE sticker on my gentoo box) and more.
Probably not, but you can always do a free FTP install.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
You can get the SUSE Upgrade version for $59.95 It only comes with the Admin Book, but it's a full blown release without the extra books. I've been using it for years.
GeneralKael -- Slacker Extraordinaire
I bought a copy of SuSE 8.1 a while ago, and recently did a free upgrade to 9.0 over the internet. Everything worked really well, but some kind of high-speed network connection is definitely recommended - it took a couple of hours over 512kb/s ADSL.
:-)
I think I'm going to buy a boxed version of 9.1, just to support what they're doing.
Actually, no.
Here is a previous slashdot article on the matter.
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SuSE 9.0 has a really nice NTFS resize utility during install. Works quite well.
It would be presumptuous to conclude that Americans have no right to know what is being done in their name
The press release says that it will be available May 6. amazon is claiming an April 15 availability date.
Have you tried NTFSresize and fdisk? You can find a tutorial online. I used Knoppix to do this on my laptop. Best to defrag your windows drive before you do this. Of course whe i did this, it was a brand new notebook, so i didn't have much to lose since i could just stick the windows disk back in and resinstall the little stock software that I wanted to keep.
With the GPL that most of the software on the SuSE disc(s) are under, SuSE legally has to offer a free downloadable version of there distrobution somewhere on their site. So, check around. It's there somewhere!
--- "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." -- Robert Heller
I don't remember where I found this script, I think it posted on the SuSE mailing list a few years ago. Anyway, it's a bash program that allows you to create your own SuSE DVD iso from an FTP.
I could never get it to work properly, and I'm not the original author, but I'll post it here anyway.
SuSE deserves our money for the work they do, so please only use this for testing purposes, and plan on paying for the box set, as I did.
(I had to encode it base64 to get past the lameness filter. Released under GPL, YMMV, don't yell at me if it breaks your box, etc.)
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SuSE 9.1 Professional contains 5CDs, 2 double-sided DVDs. Both the 64bit as well as 32bit versions are delivered together, not in separate bundles. SuSE 9.1 contains Kernel 2.6.4, KDE 3.2.1 together with a KDEified OpenOffice.org suite. This information comes from the german SUSE-website (in german).
The article states that you can get the updated edition of the Professional version for $59.95.
In the other hand, SuSE have some default selections or aggroupations of packages, where instead of selecting one by one you get in one category a lot of related programs (i.e. you can select KDE or gnome desktop, or development packages or things like that) selected in group but where you can deselect things from there. That helps dealing with such amount of programs.
Another strategy you can use to install distributions with that order of available programs is install a "default" system (at least for the ones that provides you with that option) and install more programs when you need something you don't installed at the first time.
spoken like a true AC.
many large corporations continue to use Novell. Although their market share has not grown in the last few years, their base has been stable. Products like the NDS, NDPS, and ZenWorks have made the life of a sysadmin bearable.
Their move to Linux in the corporate world, means that servers will continue to host Novell, and not be taken over by Windows Based servers.
In this light, Novell is nice to see. As for competition with other Linuces...we'll see what pans out.
We're like rats, in some experiment! -- George Costanza
You can friendly resize NTFS partitions using tools such as QTParted on knoppix or Partition Magic or SuSE/Mandrakes installers. This does not damage the data on the drive, simply resizes it. The only problem, is that it can not MOVE data on the drive, so you need to be sure it is defragmented. Also, I doubt you would have much luck if your dell laptop is like mine, because they made the NTFS file table at the physical END of the drive, and since that is immovable even within windows, you can only reduce the ntfs partitions size by something like 30 megabytes. Partition Magic may have some way of moving the file index, but the free tools can't. Solution? Reformat and reinstall windows and then tell them you had a virus that ate everything and you were forced to revert back to a base installation ;)
It is free. The only ISO they ever release for gtheir distros is a live CD. You can try a live CD for SuSE 9.0 right now if you'd like: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/live-eval-9.0
But Suse isn't Open Source. At least not in the way that matters. The very core and most important part of Suse YAST is closed source and comes with restrictions. If you "need" to push Open Source push Fedora, Mandrake, Knoppix, Debian, Slackware, or Gentoo.
If Red Hat can give away the source for its most expensive products why can't Suse Open Source Yast?
In the end Suse is free to do what they want with their code and I don't think they are "evil" but they are not an open source distro any more than somthing like Lindows. Once Novell starts integrating their proprietary technologies into Suse it will become even more closed source. And Yes that is their plan. It may end up being a really good distro but it will always be far from Open Source.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Well RedHat's out of the retail box business, that's old news -but- I think it's pretty cool that CompUSA has a boxed FreeBSD set! I'll admit I didn't believe you at first but then I looked it up online just to be certain and they have the PowerPak 5.1 set. Anyhow, to get back on subject, CompUSA does sell SuSE as well.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws-Plato
Your paying for the manuals, media and support (for installation for the first 30 days with SuSE IIRC) but not for the GPL'ed software. Also you don't have to buy, you can do a network based install if you have the bandwidth!
You can take it one step further by using a control file to partition, install and configure numerous machines without user intervention.
Textmaker is known for telling lies about other Linux office suites, particulary proudly proclaiming defects with old versions off the office suite.
searching for "abiword" on a search engine brings up this ad.
No-Bloat Word Processor
OpenOffice too slow? Abiword
missing all the nice features?
www.goat.cx (url changed for obvious reasons)
OpenOffice.org was slow in version 1.0, which was forced to be version 1.0 by sun mangement. 1.1 is the latest OpenOffice.org, which has all the speed problems eliminated!
Same goes for Abiword, which is mentioning the old 1.x version of abiword. I have tried textmaker and it is obvious that it has relied on the faults of the old versions of them and that Abiword 2.0 and OpenOffice 1.1 hands textmakers ass to it on a platter!
Uhm, Red Hat has that. When you next do a RH (or Fedora) install, look for the file /root/anaconda-ks.cfg -- it contains installation settings and package selections, making it easy to deploy identical OS setups on zillions of boxes.
It's properly pronounced Zoo-zuh.
Sigh. Have you EVER bothered to read the licensing for YaST? It is open, you can take it, reuse it. modify and redistribute it. You just have to credit SuSE and print "modified Version" on the menu screen and in the code. Read the YaST license for once instead of harping on Internet misconceptions. http://www.suse.com/us/private/support/licenses/ya st.html
Verified it, and it doesn't look like a trojan. In order to decode it, you have to remove the spaces:
sed -i -e 's/ //g' test.decode
Then decode it with uudeview or uudecode.
Ok, I think you're legit so ...
- Yep, you need to get your hands on DeCSS (not easy for the uninitiated) but playback shouldn't be choppy. You video output was probably set to software renderer. I use directfb or sdl (depends on the driver caps) and it works fine.
- Which scanner? There are a few cheap Lexmark ones that don't work but most high end scanners work with Sane.
- Did you check the MTU size? I'd try disabling it since I've seen that be a source of problems.
- Ok, the only explaination here is that you don't have an nVIDIA or ATI based vid card. I run UT, Quake, NWN, RTCW, ET, etc under Lin with no problems.
- Granted. There's the web based TurboTax that works but for a real native solution (at least in the US) there's nothing like this at the individual level.
Ok, all that aside, if you're a hard core gamer, don't bother trying to switch to Linux (yet at least). Yeah, there are solutions like WineX but it's far from perfect. The rest of the items on your list should all be workable. I use Win4Lin for Windows only ware that I am forced to contend with (anybody from WebEx reading this!) and I'm sure you can run window Tax software under it.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws-Plato
Actually, there is no central YAST config file in recent SuSE editions. YAST reads from the
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While money can't buy happiness, it certainly lets you choose your own form of misery.
Fedora and Mandrake community are not commercial.
That's not entirely true. You are right about YOU, but you can add additional install sources (Change Source of Installation) which can be used by the Install and Remove Software module in YaST.
Try to add ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse /i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.0/ to the sources (replace with your closest mirror and correct distribution), and YaST will update your KDE install.
The source directory must contain extra information sources for YaST (like a yast-source directory), so it does not work for all software updates provided by SUSE. AFAIK, it works for KDE; but not for GNOME or projects like Mozilla, unfortunately. You might try to use apt4rpm instead.
The answer to the orginal question: No, if they have not changed something for the new 9.1 Live CD's, it should not be possible to do a Knoppix-like upgrade from a Live CD.
Umm, how about directory services? You may have heard of NDS - y'know, the architecture MS ripped off when they came up with ADS? I'm not a novell fanboy, but this is a matter of giving credit where it's due.
Yes, my only tool is a hammer. And you're starting to look like a nail.
Novell is doing what FOSS has wanted proprietary OS vendors to do for some time, and all you want to do is flame them for it.
Yes, my only tool is a hammer. And you're starting to look like a nail.
However, AFAIK, it cannot move data. So you should first try your windows defragmentation program to see how much space it leaves at the end of the partition. In case there is enough space left for your Linux partitions, you can go ahead and just run SuSE's installation pograms.
In my case, there wasn't. But it's still possible by downloading a statically linked beta version of ntfsresize (google for it), which has relocation support since about 2 months ago. Burn it on a CD, start the SuSE Rescue system, and follow the instructions on the ntfsresize FAQ carefully. Worked flawlessly for me.
Yes, it's beta, but the developers seem very careful, and they didn't get a data-loss bug report yet.
Samba 3 is already available for SuSE 9. If you follow the download links from SuSE's website you are redirected a few times and wind up here. These are the RPMs specifically for SuSE 9.0.