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Why You Should Choose MS Office Over OO.org

sander writes "As noted on linxfr.org, Microsoft has published a competitive guide on OpenOffice.org 1.1 vs Microsoft Office. Some of the weirder things they claim in it is that by choosing MS Office over OpenOffice.org one is protected from the threat of viruses. But the giant seems to be sweating -- and with a good reason."

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  1. my reason by maxbang · · Score: 4, Funny

    I chose MS Office because I like throwing away my money. I am also a moron. That is why I have a chandelier hanging in my car.

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  2. Note the URL path by GPLDAN · · Score: 5, Funny

    The path is:
    /partner/salesmarketing/opensource/discguides

    Disc stands for "disinformation campaign"

  3. Good point! by thebra · · Score: 1, Funny

    "by choosing MS Office over OpenOffice.org one is protected from the threat of viruses."

    That is why any one uses Microsoft products, duh!

  4. PDF by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Microsoft Office vs OpenOffice" document, published by Microsoft in ... PDF format.

    Amusing...

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    1. Re:PDF by igaborf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if they produced the document in OpenOffice 1.1 so they could just click the "Export Directly as PDF" button?

    2. Re:PDF by Avtar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even better, it was created on a Mac...

    3. Re:PDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...which is dying, last I heard...

  5. Re:some stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot should have posted another link to the english version- i don't think the majority of /. readers can read french fluently.

    From what I've seen round here, the English version would be no more useful than a version in Klingon.

  6. Naturally they EYODF by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course Microsoft would create this document using their own products, naturally, they are the big proponent of the "Eat Your Own Dog Food" methodology.

    So why then when I click on Document Properties on this PDF do I see?

    Creator: QuarkXpress 4.11
    Producer: Acrobat Distiller 4.05 for Macintosh

    Bill: while you're transferring this over to Microsoft Publisher perhaps you'd like to fix the typo on page 1: "rteam".

    John.

  7. Clippy! by dswensen · · Score: 5, Funny

    "B-but, Open Office doesn't have Clippy, the helpful paper clip. Or a wizard. Or a little Microsoft logo that tells you when you're writing a letter (because obviously, you don't know). We even have a helpful little puppy! You like puppies, don't you? Everybody likes puppies! Fine, go ahead and use Open Office, puppy killer!"

    1. Re:Clippy! by bryanthompson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Every time you use MS Office god kills a kitten. Think of the kittens.

  8. Re:Viruses!! by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    Oo is vulnerable? lol

    Maybe if they find a way to import Office macros..

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  9. Mod uberparent up! by wzzrd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can someone give a +5 (thousand) to the MS guy who wrote the part about viruses!? Rolling on the floor from hysterical laughter!

  10. Migration cost is the biggest by bratgrrl · · Score: 5, Funny

    M$ is right about one thing- migration is the most painful and expensive part. Unlike using M$ products, though, the pain stops afterwards.

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  11. Re:good logic by Johnny_Law · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some of the weirder things they claim in it is that by choosing MS Office over OpenOffice.org one is protected from the threat of viruses

    Ohh.. That Microsoft is such a kidder. They had a great straight face for that one. They almost had me going there.

    What you mean they were serious? Oh dear...

  12. Spellcheck by Student_Tech · · Score: 3, Funny

    The spell checker must not work on that doc (or they didn't use it or they have some strange settings)

    "support rteam."

    Maybe others, but that one was glaring @ me (it is right beneath the 3. OpenOffice 1.1 is an Open Source alternative)

    Also what is this OpenOffice they refer to? I know of an OpenOffice.Org and they mention that "OpenOffice" is a trademark owned by someone else.

  13. The best part... by Bishop,+Martin · · Score: 3, Funny

    The best part has to be "with an R&D budget of over $4.8 billion, Office is a core Microsoft business."

    $4.8 billion, and it's not up to par, IMO, with OpenOffice

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  14. Thanx MS For Clearing That Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was so confused but now I see the light, thanx Microsoft. I didn't realize that I needed to spend $500 bucks just to do basic word processing at home. But you showed me otherwise.

  15. Re:3 Words by midshipman_geek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Death to Clippy

  16. Somebody has to do it... by AJWM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Step 5 - Profit!

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  17. Re:Step 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think it goes:

    *) First, you quote Benjamin Franklin
    *) Then, you quote Ghandi
    *) ???
    *) Profit!

    Really, folks, famous quotations are no substitute for an original opinion.

  18. Re:Hmm, very little is said about features... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Funny

    "MS-Office was feature-complete as of Office 95"

    They did add that wonderful feature that refuses to believe that you actually do want bullet points numbered 1,2,3,7, and 9.

    -B

  19. Microsoft Office has no threat of viral infection by Skapare · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft Office has no threat of viral infection. That's because viral infection is very real. Hell, they ought to remove all doubt and just ship Microsoft Office pre-infected.

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  20. Re:some stuff by NeoThermic · · Score: 2, Funny

    tlhIngan mu' DichDaq SIq Dung SoH!!

    [Note, google for online english to klingon translator and use the first link]

    NeoThermic

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  21. Halloween XVCXXIXXCVIX by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Funny
    From an email that went through the marketing offices of Microsoft headquarters:
    Ten reasons you should choose Microsoft Office Deluxe Professional Edition over OpenOffice.org:
    1. It makes us more money.
    Ok, so we're still about nine reasons short... Someone needs to conjure them up. -Bill.
    Make of it what you will...
  22. Re:Hmm, very little is said about features... by cshark · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's amazing.
    The only office features I've ever used that oo doesn't have, are some of the useful security holes... eh, I mean collaboration features.

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  23. Why you shouldn't use Openoffice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    'Cause then you would be a girlie-man.

    we're Hans und Franz and we're here to pump you up!

  24. Re: unresolved bugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    See, now, whereas some may call this a bug, isn't it far more positive to characterize it as a commitment to tradition?
    It's you humorless types that give /. such a negative reputation...

  25. Oh? by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some of the weirder things they claim in it is that by choosing MS Office over OpenOffice.org one is protected from the threat of viruses

    Bill, give Darl his crack pipe back...

  26. Re:Unresolved bugs. by Drathus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...

    But stainless steel is silv... Oh.

  27. too early for april fools day by natefanaro · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're a week off!

  28. strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    an PDF pushing Microsoft Office made on a Mac using Quark

  29. Re:some stuff by blackmonday · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where's the Klingon version? It's the only way i communicate on Thursdays ...oops.

  30. Re:good logic by eofpi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indeed. I can barely believe they touted having Outlook as part of MSOffice as a feature.

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  31. Re:some stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are likely afraid of "meta data" if they posted in .doc format :)

  32. Re:Hmm, very little is said about features... by coupland · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ahh yes, the paperclip. Otherwise known as the productivity police. "Productivity detected! BINK! BINK! Now interrupting with inane and irrelevant suggestion"

  33. Re: unresolved bugs? by CatGrep · · Score: 2, Funny

    But if they fix it then a lot of Word users would have to be retrained and M$ says retraining is expensive.

  34. Re:The number one reason NOT to use MS Office... by rbolkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bah features. MS Office looks prettier every release. That's why I upgrade.

  35. Re:Unresolved bugs. by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm torn...

    I can't decide which is worse:
    groping through Knowledge Base documents and being put on hold for hours calling Microsoft

    OR

    reading outdated man pages then being cussed out by an experience, yet socially inept user, for asking a question on a discussion board

    When it all comes down to it (MS or OO), I just end up entering the error message into Google anyway.

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  36. PDF Created On A Mac by macdaddy · · Score: 2, Funny
    Microsoft believes in their own products so much that they didn't use any of their own products to create this document. They may as well have created it in OO.

    From the Document Properties for OpenOffice.pdf:

    Description
    Title: competitive OpenOffice.qxd
    Author: Gravity
    Subject:
    Keywords:
    Created: 9/11/2003 10:05:53 AM
    Modified: 9/11/2003 5:06:03 PM
    Application: QuarkXPress(tm) 4.11
    PDF Information
    PDF Producer: Acrobat Distiller 4.05 for Macintosh
    PDF Version: 1.2 (Acrobat 3.x)
    Path:
    File Size: 53.96 KB (55,259 Bytes)
    Page Size: 11 x 8.5 in
    Tagged PDF: No
    Number of Pages: 2
    Fast Web View: Yes
  37. Re:My experience with OO.o by jfengel · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you want real layout you have to use something like Pagemaker or Framemaker or Quark XPress, which are designed for it. Word tries, and OOo does pretty much what Word does.

    But I don't think Word tries hard enough. The layout has been pretty much the same for as long as I can remember, which is a pretty damn long time. Meanwhile they're busily adding blinking text (for the blinking toner in my laser printer). For all OOo's faults, at least it hasn't had those faults for years running.

  38. Re:some stuff by criscooil · · Score: 2, Funny
    while () { drink_guinness(); }

    Shouldnt that be:

    while (!unconcious()) { drink_guinness(); }

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  39. Re:Support Team by lewp · · Score: 0, Funny

    Your country is stupid.

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  40. What OpenOffice _does_ have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "OpenOffice does not have a dedicated development or
    support rteam."

    But it _does_ have a working spell checker!

  41. Re:some stuff by motorsabbath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good question, I was wondering if anyone would catch it. I watch people around me brawl with Excel and Word version conflicts all day. I hear people cursing both applications all day. Sounds like crap to me. It's crap to me as a non-user because it's (1) expensive, (2) inescapable by the average joe, (3) the product of a monpolist (it is unethical to support the activities of a monopolist) and (4) the cause of a great deal of woe for anybody that refuses to use it yet must interoperate with the rest of the world.

    I don't care if it actually is the best set of apps since the Big Bang - for all the reasons above, it's crap. Period. Once I am installed as Supreme Intergalactic Emperor it's use will be punishable by death, and those bastards who've created it will be the first ones up against the wall...;-)

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  42. Re:Unresolved bugs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    My wife uses it to exchange letters in Russian with her father.

    You didnt by chance get her from http://www.russianbrides.com.?

  43. Re:some stuff by Wog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I never said that it couldn't get you anywhere, I said it would never get you anywhere *worth going to.*

  44. Re:Trademark issues by cubic6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should rename it Firebird.

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  45. Re:My experience with OO.o by aralin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm, I made my wife compare the two office suites and then asked her which ones is better. And she said flat out that MS Office is better and more convenient to her as well since she used to use it at work.

    Then I told her that she can either pay $500 and I will install MS Office for her or she can have OpenOffice for free. Guess what? She opted for OpenOffice and bunch of shoes and dresses :)

    I'd say, the OpenOffice is definitely ready for market.

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  46. Re:some stuff by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haven't tried it yet, but The Kompany just released their GUI/RAD database tool as open source. Don't recall the name of it, but it's listed on their products page, and slashdot ran a story about it a few months back.

  47. Re:some stuff by netsharc · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's funny, considering Point no. 5:
    Seamless Information Exchange
    There are over 300 million users of Office worldwide who can seamlessly exchange documents without concerns for loss of data or formatting errors. Third-party studies show that competitive office suites retain only 75% accuracy (data and formatting) when receiving documents from Office users. See Summary eTesting Labs: Microsoft Windows XP/Office XP versus Red Hat Linux/StarOffice Migration Study

    Hey MS, If you weren't afraid of formatting losses, why did you choose PDF? And how did you get your nice Office suite to create PDFs? Oh did you have to pay someone else for that feature? *snigger*
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  48. System req. and TCO by dr.+electron · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder why they left out the system req. for Office, since that is actually a BIG factor in the "Total cost of ownership" they talk about.

  49. I'm Convinced by jeddak · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm ready to switch. OpenOffice doesn't have all the wonderful nifty features that MS Office has, and I'm tired of explaining my use of this obscure piece of software to my friends and family...

    So. Tell me - where do I buy MS Office for FreeBSD?

    No?

    Linux?

    Solaris?

    Oh.

  50. Re:Step 3 by Ashe+Tyrael · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, the famous people quote YOU.

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  51. Re:Unresolved bugs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You don't get out much, do you ?

  52. Found a typo. by XChilde · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look carefully in the "OpenOffice 1.1 is an open source alternative" section: "...development or support rteam..." It should be "team", no "r". I've noticed that this document is typesetted in QuarkXPress. But I think they type the text content in their valuable MS Word, and they do have a commercial spell checker. Or may be they don't treat this document seriously (They should publish it later, e.g. April 1st). BTW: Why they typeset this little document in the infamous Microsoft Office Publisher?

  53. Rewriting macro's by nl69959 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Document conversion and rewriting macros (OpenOffice does not support Office macros)"

    My company just did a Windows NT -> Windows XP and Office 97 -> Office XP upgrade and hired an external company to rewrite all the macro's.

    Now that's an advantage.