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Testing Relativity

MGDruss writes "NASA are proposing an empirical measurement on the ISS which would test general relativity to a precision within the bounds of superstring (and other) theories to predict deviation." We mentioned the Cassini experiment last year.

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  1. Great. by Omni+Magnus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now all of the Trekkies will realize that Warp 10 isn't possible.

    1. Re:Great. by PollGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure it is, if you don't mind turning into a chunk of latex and procreating with your boss.

      Sayyyyyy.....

    2. Re:Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You have proven your geek godliness. well done.

    3. Re:Great. by pipingguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Warp 10 is impossible

      Of course it is. Go fast enough and eventually it would be possible to go back in time and re-write bad plotlines. Or be able to see Slashdot articles before they are posted.

      Wait...

    4. Re:Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What you're talking about are exceptions which use different warp scales, entirely different methods of traveling through space, supernatural beings, or in some cases alternate realities created by supernatural beings. All of which is perfectly explained and believable.

      Priceless.

    5. Re:Great. by STrinity · · Score: 4, Funny

      What you're talking about are exceptions which use different warp scales, entirely different methods of traveling through space, supernatural beings, or in some cases alternate realities created by supernatural beings. All of which is perfectly explained and believable.

      So wait, the Enterprise being able to reach a velocity defined as an asymptote is okay and believable when an alien entity does it? That is the dumbest fanboy excuse I've ever heard.

      The only one that isn't is Voy: Threshold. It's the biggest stain on Trek since TOS: Miri.

      No, dude, Threshold isn't a universally reviled episode because the science doesn't make sense (if that were the case, there'd be very few good episodes of Star Trek) or because it broke continuity (something Star Trek has never been big on). It's a bad episode because traveling at infinite speed made Paris and Janeway devolve into salamanders.

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    6. Re:Great. by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Warp 10 is impossible.

      Make it so, number 0.999999999...!

    7. Re:Great. by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2, Funny
      Any number of things could explain the >10 warp factor

      Maybe they reversed the phase. That always seemed to work in a pinch.

    8. Re:Great. by Epistax · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's what repeats are. You've traveled at Warp 10 and seen the article before it's actually been posted.
      No wait that's a glitch in the matrix....

    9. Re:Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      "GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!

      "I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves? You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl?

      "I didn't think so! There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch television! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a TV show dammit, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!" -- William Shatner (SNL, 1986)

    10. Re:Great. by Ironica · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no. Dupes are never *identical*, which means they are actually a sign of alternate universes bleeding into each other, where a particular story is posted on one day by one person, and the next day slightly differently by someone else.

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    11. Re:Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Without using a modified deflector dish? Wouldn't that reverse the phase anyway?

  2. Re:but.... by understyled · · Score: 5, Funny

    What ever happened to the concept that the simplest explaination is probably the best?

    that only works in movies starring jodie foster.

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  3. Pff, already done by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Relativity has already been put to the test. I mean, if time wasn't flexible, how else would Arthur Dent be able to witness the end of the universe every evening at Milliways?

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  4. Re:Scientists think Einstein was wrong? by Kenja · · Score: 2, Funny
    "The article implies that Einstein's relativity is incorrect, in the opinions of most scientists. I'm no physicist, but I would say that most scientists are trying to build onto Einstein's relativity and show that it agrees with Quantum Mechanics: Therefore, they think it is correct."

    They think that Einstein's theory is in a quantum state, being both correct and incorrect at the same time until they try and apply it to a given situation. Then it resolves into a definite true or false state.

    Of course, I could be full of crap. Its been known to happen just after lunch.

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  5. Test General Relativity? by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's good to see them impose some standards on the military.

  6. Re:Let's have a little poll. by Forge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot logic.

    Testing mathematical theories by means of slightly twisted democracy. :)

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  7. Re:Let's have a little poll. by FesterDaFelcher · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's turtles all the way down, man.

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  8. Accuracies Needed by hopbine · · Score: 3, Funny

    I cannot easily envisage a picorad - but an accuracy of 1cm in 300 million km !!! I'm more use to working with plus or minus half a brick, it's close enough for government work.

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  9. but it has already been proven by laugau · · Score: 2, Funny

    1000 years from now, they prove that the theory of relativity is true and then travel back in time and tell Einstein who explains the principals to us and through the act of putting it in textbooks makes us 'take their word for it' since noone can understand it.

    To me, this is a very simple explanation and since the simplest explanation must be true, I think we have a winner.

    I call it the 'Spears theory of enlightened time-travelers'.

  10. Re:Let's have a little poll. by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite string theory is the String Bikini Theory.

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  11. Blasphemy! by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny
    Einstein wrote it. I beleive it. You should too. No need to test it.

    Oh wait, I've confused Science with religion, again.

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  12. I misread that... by deathazre · · Score: 2, Funny

    as IIS and wondered why, if they're doing something as advanced as this, they don't have the intelligence to use apache?

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  13. Re:Let's have a little poll. by mph · · Score: 3, Funny
    Finding out what people's gut tells them based on what they know, we are.
    My gut tells me that the answer is Newtonian mechanics.
  14. Re:Still not a justification for ISS by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, the article says they are using the existing structure of ISS as a frame on which to mount their interferometer[s apart]. Of course this could be done without ISS, but it would require design, construction,

    You usually don't need strong stuctures once in space. Have like long tape-measure tape(s) that holds the two probes steady relative to each other. Hmmmm. Off-the-shelf tape-measure? Call the probes "McGiver 1" and "McGiver 2".

  15. In other news... by mcpkaaos · · Score: 1, Funny

    Huh?

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  16. Re:Let's have a little poll. by Throtex · · Score: 3, Funny

    I try not to think with my gut. It wasn't designed for that purpose. ;)

  17. Speaking of suggested NASA experiments... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    ...The folks at Something Awful had this to say:
    Astronauts sent to Mars to look at rocks UNACCEPTABLE
    Astronauts sent to Mars to get kids off crack ACCEPTABLE

    Astronauts build Moonbase to study lunar environment UNACCEPTABLE
    Astronauts build Moonbase to develop cure for cancer ACCEPTABLE

    Rover sent to Mars to dig for fossilized microorganisms UNACCEPTABLE
    Rover sent to Mars to subdue and rape sentient aliens ACCEPTABLE

    Satellite launched to study the Sun's radiation UNACCEPTABLE
    Satellite launched that can shoot commies with lasers ACCEPTABLE

    Probe sent to explore Jupiter's moons UNACCEPTABLE
    Probe sent to allow baseball players to continue using steroids ACCEPTABLE

    Rover explores Venus searching for unusual rocks UNACCEPTABLE
    Rover explores Venus searching for Abraham Lincoln's Ghost ACCEPTABLE

    International Space Station for fuck knows what UNACCEPTABLE
    International Space Station for production of Hi-C Ecto Coolers ACCEPTABLE

  18. Re:Let's have a little poll. by IronChef · · Score: 2, Funny

    Relativity is bullcrap.

    I heard so on Coast to Coast AM.

    I think it was right after the chupacabra guy the other night. Or was it the bigfoot guy? I can't remember.

    Anyway, that settles it. Anyone who says otherwise is a tool of the Establishment!

    Now if you will excuse me, I am getting into my orgone box.

  19. Poll The Astronauts? by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny
    "... theories to predict deviation."

    So, how do the astronauts on ISS feel about attempts to measure their deviation? And what type of scientists have come up with deviation theories?

  20. Re:but.... by forgotmypassword · · Score: 3, Funny

    Newton's gravity was tested and proven. So why test for anything else? So what if mercury's orbit is a little odd. Gravity works.

    What? Mercury's orbit is odd? Why there must be another planet down there perturbing it's orbit.

    Let's call that new planet "Vulcan".

    I am off to point my telescope at the Sun now.

  21. Re:Let's have a little poll. by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that the theory where no woman wearing a string bikini would be caught within 3 miles of you? ;)

  22. "You ST nerds sicken me." by paragon_au · · Score: 3, Funny

    Coming from the guy who off the top of his head knew that "In the last episode of STTNG there is reference to Warp 13 (in the future Enterprise). This future time was only about 25-30 years from the TNG "present" which means it was in the same time period as the Voyager episodes"