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Speculating About Gmail

rjelks writes "The Register is running an article about Google's new email service that was mentioned earlier, here. The story details the new privacy concerns about Gmail's privacy policy and Google's tracking habits. The policy states that Google will not guarantee the deletion of emails that are archived even if you cancel your account. 'The contents of your Gmail account also are stored and maintained on Google servers in order to provide the service. Indeed, residual copies of email may remain on our systems, even after you have deleted them from your mailbox or after the termination of your account.'" Reader cpfeifer writes "Rich Skrenta (founder of ODP, and Topix) speculates in his blog that the real product Google is creating isn't web search or email, but a massively scalable, distributed computing platform. 'It's a distributed computing platform that can manage web-scale datasets on 100,000 node server clusters. It includes a petabyte, distributed, fault tolerant filesystem, distributed RPC code, probably network shared memory and process migration. And a datacenter management system which lets a handful of ops engineers effectively run 100,000 servers.' If he's right, the question isn't what product will Google announce next, but what product will they not be able to announce?"

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  1. Skynet by kris · · Score: 4, Funny

    My god! They are building Skynet! When will it achieve sentience?

    1. Re:Skynet by Bobdoer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.

    2. Re:Skynet by Zadeus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe Sergey Brin will run for President in 2020..

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    3. Re:Skynet by TiMac · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, Microsoft will be the ones to build Sky.NET, their crappy coders rushing to market without the checks needed to ensure Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics

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    4. Re:Skynet by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry Dave, I cannot let you read this mail ...

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    5. Re:Skynet by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

      If anyone is to build Skynet, we should hope and pray that it is Microsoft. At least then it has a higher possibility of not working right.

  2. What? Are we treating this seriously now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If so, I think I'll put in a resume for a job on, what was it - the Copernicus base?

    Gmail was an April Fools Day joke, yes?

  3. bunch of pack rats... by ForestGrump · · Score: 4, Funny

    "the contents of your Gmail account also are stored and maintained on Google servers in order to provide the service. Indeed, residual copies of email may remain on our systems, even after you have deleted them from your mailbox or after the termination of your account."

    Go ahead and horde my spam. I don't want it anyway.
    -Grump

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  4. Deus what? by NeedleSurfer · · Score: 2, Funny

    In related news, excentric millionaire and communication guru Bob Page aquired Google today. "With Bob Page vision's, Google will reach new heights in consummer services" said a Google representative. In answer to the question of where would the facility be found, Bob Page said it would be "near Groom Lake in Nevada".

  5. Re:disk space is cheap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    So from reading our e-mail they'll find out that 99% of its users are interested in penis enlargement?

  6. Re:Only one? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Amazing. At some point, Google could have copies of every new document or content produced, all for the cost of hosting. They would, by default, become the next Library of Congress.

    You spelled Eschelon and Carnivore incorrectly.

  7. Re:Only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > You spelled Eschelon and Carnivore incorrectly.

    So did you (well, the former)...

  8. Re:disk space is cheap. by Surreal_Streaker · · Score: 2, Funny
    All that adds up to at least half of a million dollars. And for what - Something that amounts to a community service project? Hey, I'll give Google full credit for their current image in the geek community, but this seems a tad ridiculous.

    Its a hell of a lot better advertizing than a 30 second superbowl ad.

  9. Re:Only one? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Funny
    There's no 's' in Echelon.

    More info here.

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  10. Re:Only one? by paul_pick1 · · Score: 1, Funny
    how many people are seriously going to back up their hard drives in 10MB chunks?

    I still backup my hard disk in 1.44MB chunks, you insensitive clod.

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  11. Re:Hang on by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1, Funny

    I found out that you can't really trust newsreports until up to ten days after April 1st, so

    Anything confirming that it's not an April Fools' joke which was published at least ten days after the 1st of April?

    .. aiming for "+1, Funny" here, not for "-1, lacking basic math skills".

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  12. Re:disk space is cheap. by smallfries · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whilst you do make some insightful observations, you can't count to four can you ;^)

    Nit-picking aside, your second reason is a community service, Google are really good at publishing the results of their research. That experiment in distributed computing is not just going to advance the state of the art in scalable systems, its going to drive it.

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  13. Re:disk space is cheap. by joshuaobrien · · Score: 5, Funny

    For example, when mail (example: spam) is sent to 100 people, keep 1 copy of the message

    Better still, when spam is sent to 100 people, keep 0 copies of the message...

  14. Re:Only one? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

    gMail disk device driver...

    I sense a sourceforge project coming lol

    format g:
    WARNING, ALL DATA ON EXTREMELY-REMOVABLE DISK
    DRIVE g: WILL BE LOST!
    Proceed with Format (Y/N)?_

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  15. I'll take their.... by zogger · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... failed systems. It might not be cost effective for google to deal with them, but I bet you could piece together a lot of functioning boxes from the scrappage.

  16. Re:Google don't use RAID... by AbbyNormal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or, have the machines, escaped from the Matrix? huh? Huh?

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  17. Re:disk space is cheap. by espo812 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hotmail was started for the same reason every other web-based free email system was started, and in fact why every other Internet-based business (with the exception of Amazon) was started way back when...because people still thought the advertisement-driven model of Internet-based businesses was tenable.
    Porn. It isn't advertising based and has been hugely profitable for a long time on the Internet. In fact, I remember it being the only profitable Internet industry (save ISPs) a few years back.
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  18. My thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I like the concept of your troll account, but the execution is lacking.

    First, you shouldn't have your subject line be capitalized. This gives it away as an obvious troll; you want people to actually read your comment as if they are expecting a non-troll. Just punctuate it as you would in a normal communication.

    Second, the spelling of your account is bad. The "S" in Stupid American should not be capitalized, and it should be "a stupid American" instead of "Stupid American". That way, it won't sound like a non-English-speaking person is saying it. Unless you are portraying a non-English-speaking person making fun of Americans, in which case I guess it's ok, but I still think the "S" should not be capitalized.

    Third, I think you should have leading periods in your comment to indicate continuation with a slight pause. This will get the effect across better.

    Exampe:

    Subject: I have the right to spy on anyone I like...
    Comment: ...because I am [a] stupid American.

    If you follow my advice, I think you will go down as one of the most loved and hated trolls in Slashdot history. Until we meet again.

  19. Re:Grab your name, quick by _Qiang_ · · Score: 1, Funny

    I will register Andy.R@gmail.com and Andy_R@gmail.com.

  20. Re:Encryption by Bombcar · · Score: 2, Funny
    Duh, All Google'll see is:

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