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Lindows Changes Name to 'Linspire'

Robert Nicholson writes "As previously covered, Lindows has decided to change its name thanks to Microsoft legal threats. Well it has just announced the new name - Linspire - clever, huh? There's a site at Linspire.com. The full story and the history behind it all are covered on Techworld."

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  1. Little guys can't fight a giant... by mindless4210 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That left the way open for Microsoft to chase the company all over the world's courts and effectively knock it out of business with huge legal costs.

    This sheds some light on the real reason that they changed their name. I doubt there's a single company that could handle being dragged through the world's courts by Microsoft, let alone a small one like them.

    This led to the daft situation where Lindows renamed itself Lin---s, complete with new website. Microsoft, unbowed, then incredibly claimed that Lin---s was its trademark as well.

    This one just makes me say wow... Microsoft actually thingks they can claim the rights to "Lin---s"? Talk about power hungry.

    Also, if they have changed their name and everything, then why does www.linspire.com have "LindowsOS" plastered all over the place? I guess it will take them a while to implement the actual name change.

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    1. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by Almond+Tree · · Score: 3, Funny

      I get it. It's like perspire ... only with Linux, right?

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    2. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by gid13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Microsoft actually thingks they can claim the rights to "Lin---s"? Talk about power hungry."

      Well, they probably don't think they can claim the rights to it so much as they think their lawyers can beat up Lindows' lawyers. And Lindows seems to agree. Yay capitalism, where even the law is privatized.

    3. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by Liselle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, the name "Lin---s" was kind of obviously flipping off Microsoft, especially since they had a poorly-drawn hangman on the website for it with every letter crossed out except "D", "O" and "W". I mean, come on. Michael Robertson is good at criticizing Microsoft and pissing in their Cheerios, but he's not good at coming up with with clever names, I guess (I'm not going to go for the obvious parallel). I think he just should have taken absurdity to its ultimate edge and called the damn thing Linfox.

      I was one of the people who said that you couldn't possibly come up with a more asinine name than "Lindows". Here we all are, eating our words. ;)

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    4. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > I doubt there's a single company that could handle being dragged through the world's courts by Microsoft,

      It was a PR Stunt from the very beginning. If they were really scared of MS' Legal Dept, they would have never picked "Lindows" in the beginning.

      And since they made the slashdot frontpage again, their plan is working great.

    5. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by somethinghollow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think Microsoft's reasoning was "---" stood for "dow", which was still, somehow, theirs.

      I guess in that case, bleeping out cusswords or saying f--k is the same as just saying / writing them. The FCC should take note of the case to further censor the public.

      As far as Lindows Inc., they apparently are going to keep the company name. With M$'s reasoning, I'm surprised they aren't trying to convince people that Lindows really means Microsoft and they should change their name to nothing, since all names really mean Microsoft. I'm getting images of that scene in Being John Malkovich...

    6. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by rfrenzob · · Score: 5, Funny

      >This led to the daft situation where Lindows renamed itself Lin---s, complete with new website. Microsoft, unbowed, then incredibly claimed that Lin---s was its trademark as well.

      >This one just makes me say wow... Microsoft actually thingks they can claim the rights to "Lin---s"? Talk about power hungry.

      The name still infringes on Microsofts rights. Notice that there are common characters in the names:

      wINdowS
      lINSpIre

      I suspect this conflict will lead to product confusion and continued loss of sales by Microsoft until this evil Linspire changes its name to resolve the conflict.

    7. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by Otter · · Score: 3, Funny
      I mean, come on. Michael Robertson is good at criticizing Microsoft and pissing in their Cheerios, but he's not good at coming up with with clever names...

      Well, he's good at getting his competitors' legal departments to give him free publicity, but less good at turning that free publicity into an ongoing business. He'll be selling Hoca-Cola or Burger Monarch by next year.

    8. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by stubear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're forgetting that on the world stage Lindows was infringing upon the Widos trademark. In the initial suits filed, none of the countries had the word "Windows" in their language so it was a competely unique trademark. This was really brilliant lawering really because even though Lindows had a chance to keep using the name here, they would fracture the brand and Michael Robertson is in this to form a company around Linux right? I'm guessing Robertson had a little help from his board figuring this one out because I think he still wants to fight this fight that he knows he's eventually going to lose.

    9. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by boudie · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm sure they were linspired by the linvoices from their legal department.

    10. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So who wants "clever" names for products? The plethora of "clever" naming in the computer world is nothing but a source of confusion for the actual users. Give users names like "Adobe photoshop" and they'll be much happier than "Adobe super-fire bird".

      This lesson needs to be taken to heart, keep the clever code names internal, use sensible naming for actual products.

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    11. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by goldspider · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Back to this old pissing contest again, eh?

      Joe Sixpack goes to Wal-mart to buy an OS upgrade for his computer. He sees "Windows" for $300, and next to it is "Lindows" for (say) $50.

      Now Joe Sixpack isn't a stupid man, but he's not familiar with the various OSes available to him. Joe assumes that "Lindows" must just be a lower-cost version of "Windows" (because he simply doesn't have the knowledge to make the right distinction) and is essentially tricked into buying "Lindows" when what he needs is "Windows".

      It's easy to dismiss less experienced computer users as "stupid" or "illiterate", but that just tells me you're not willing to confront/admit the real, valid issue at hand here.

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    12. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by dedalus2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Joe Sixpack uses the os that comes with his PC.

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    13. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by KlomDark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich, Malkovich Malkovich; Malkovich Microsoft, Microsoft Microsoft MicrosoftMicrosoft...

    14. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by Paul+Neubauer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder, is --- Chemical still in busines?

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    15. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I think Microsoft's reasoning was "---" stood for "dow", which was still, somehow, theirs... I guess in that case, bleeping out cusswords or saying f--k is the same as just saying / writing them. "

      You hit the nail on the head, except it works against the point you were aiming for. Seeing as how Lindows was already established as "Lindows" and the damage was already done (in the legal sense), then --- change really isn't doing anything to alleviate the problem, now is it?

      To put it in simpler terms: They probably could have gotten away with Lin---s if they hadn't already gotten into a legal battle over the name "Lindows".

      It's fun to bash Microsoft over this matter, afterall it is the 'cool' thing to do here at Slashdot, but the reality is that the CEO of Lindows has intentionally and maliciously made trouble for Microsoft. If the companies' roles in this matter were reversed, the general judgement about who's really guilty wouldn't suddenly change. Microsoft would still be the bad guy.

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    16. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by ratamacue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Government defines the rules. The rules are unjust and hence exploitable. Government has laid the framework which allows big corporations to crush the little guy.

      "Unchecked capitalism" (I think you mean unfair business practices?) is an unwanted side effect, not the cause of the problem. The root of the problem is government.

    17. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It's fun to bash Microsoft over this matter, afterall it is the 'cool' thing to do here at Slashdot, but the reality is that the CEO of Lindows has intentionally and maliciously made trouble for Microsoft."

      What? You can't possibly be serious. What kind of trouble did linodws cause MS? Please list how MS was ACTUALLY harmed by the lindows name. Did their profits go down? Did they lose customers? Did they get calls from customers who were confused?

      BTW: Maybe it's fun to bash ms here but defending poor helpless corporations like MS seems to get the mod points.

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    18. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by einnor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Give users names like "Adobe photoshop" and they'll be much happier than "Adobe super-fire bird".

      But "Adobe" itself is a "clever" name. Who would've thought that a company could be very successful when their name means "mud brick". It should really be called "Mud Brick Photshop" (or, taking your example, "Mud Brick Super-Fire Bird").

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    19. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by rjelks · · Score: 2, Informative

      I hate to play devil's advocate here...and "devil's advocate" is extra appropriate in this case. :) From what I've read about trademark disputes, it seems like Microsoft's hand was a little forced. If a company fails to protect its trademark, it sets a precedence that makes it harder and harder to protect in it the future. It's hard to guess the mindset in the company, but protecting the trademark from future conflicts doesn't have to be due to heavy-handed mindsets.

    20. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 2

      I'd say Lin--s sounds A LOT like Linus rather than ANYTHING having to do with Microsoft. I think Torvalds should take a stand and give Bill Gates a proverbial bitch slap.

      I'm sure Mike Rowe is sitting in his computer chair and home reading this and thinking "Hm. Damn. Been there done that." Heh.

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    21. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by daveashcroft · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have to say...my preferred choice of new name was "porthole" ....damn microsoft and their nonsense.

    22. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by huchida · · Score: 2

      Marcomedia's done pretty well with artsy names... "Flash", "Fireworks" don't really tell you much. And when I hear "Dreamweaver", I don't think of weaving my HTML dreams into a website... I think of a ceesy 70's ballad.

    23. Re:Little guys can't fight a giant... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "1) Windows is a legitemate trademark (questionable)."

      It already is a legitimate trademark if they earned themselves the little (R) next to their name. That (R) is not something you get just by saying you have it. You have to go through a lengthy application process to get it. When you haven't earned it yet, they use TM instead. If Lindows wanted to fight that trademark, they should have taken MS to court before choosing that name. "Uh well despite them having that (R), we thought it was invalid so we took it anyway full well knowing they were going to drag us to court over it!"

      "2) That a reasonable person would confuse lindows with windows."

      That has been debated ad-nauseum here. The rules are simple. The name is too similar, the functions of the product are too similar. This is not a high hurdle, it's well established law with many precedents behind it.

      "They did no such thing. They went sue happy in europe while the slow and ponderous US legal system was crawling along. That case has not been settled yet."

      So they did catch Lindows before any damage was done, but they didn't? Eh? Guess I don't understand what you meant by that. They *have* to be aggressive with trademarks. Everybody does. That's one of the reasons so many less than life-or-death court cases clog up America's court system. If you don't defend your trademark, you risk losing it.

      "You were modded up because you defended MS. It's very common on slashdot for the MS trolls to mod each other up."

      Sorry, I don't think that's true in this case.

      "Lindows did nothing stupid. They chose a name combining linux and windows."

      Wrong. They picked that name on purpose. They wouldn't need a whole hell of a lot of common sense to realize they were going to draw Microsoft's fire. Given the CEO's other MS taunts (like putting up a $250,000 reward to hack the XBOX), well frankly that doesn't help their case.

      "MS got all uppidy and started suing them all over the world because they have the money and they knew lindows did not."

      Lindows ran up to Microsoft and said "Sue me!!!"

      "It's the great tragedy of our time."

      It's a tragedy that Lindows is even in business.

      "The rich sue everybody else into oblivion."

      In a general sense, I do agree with this particular statement. Megacorps in general do have too much legal power just by money alone. Though I don't think Microsoft is guilty of being abusive in this particular case, I do happily concede they have done it before.

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  2. In other news... by Rapid+Home+Offer · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, the lawyers for Winspire Success Seminars get their pens ready...

    1. Re:In other news... by LMCBoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Suffice to say, I misread the word "pens" in "get their pens ready...". You owe me a keyboard, as mine is now coffee-soaked. ;)

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  3. Discussion summary by timothv · · Score: 2, Funny
    • Since when is Windows not a common name?
      • It's a trademark in European countries.
    • Since when is Windows not a common name?
      • It's a trademark in European countries.
    • Since when is Windows not a common name?
      • It's a trademark in European countries.
    1. Re:Discussion summary by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 5, Funny

      What are these see-through things in most of the outside walls of my house called?

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    2. Re:Discussion summary by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ventanas.

      Finestre.

      Fenêtres.

      Fenster.

    3. Re:Discussion summary by beebware · · Score: 5, Funny

      Holes

    4. Re:Discussion summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is a great example of both sides in an argument being wrong.

      First, the grandparent post--wrong because the discussion is NOT about whether or not Windows was registered as a trademark, it's about whether the trademark is valid. So the argument is: "Your trademark is invalid" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No it isn't" Nobody is arguing with the fact that Microsoft has the trademarks, as this post suggested.

      Secondly, the parent post--wrong because generic words in themselves ARE patentable as long as they are used in a unique way. For example, the word "Apple" existed long before Apple computers, but nobody ever applied the word "Apple" to a computer before Apple computers, so Apple's trademark IS VALID. On the other hand, "Windows", as a term for glass openings in walls, would be trademarkable for other purposes. The problem with Microsoft's trademark is that the term "windows" WAS in fact used throughout the computing industry to refer to graphical interfaces long before Microsoft's product called "Windows" ever existed. Thus, argues Lindows, it is no more trademarkable than the word "car" would be for a new kind of automobile.

      This is also an example of a clueful Anonymous Coward correcting glaring inaccuracies in the posts of registered users. Only on Slashdot!

    5. Re:Discussion summary by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...the term "windows" WAS in fact used throughout the computing industry to refer to graphical interfaces...

      Maybe the term "window" for a specific part of a graphical interface was in use, but I am unaware of anyone using the word "Windows" to refer generically to an operating system. That particular argument seems to be sketchy at best.

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    6. Re:Discussion summary by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "What are these see-through things in most of the outside walls of my house called?"

      What's that fruit you're eating? Apple! What's that light coming from outside? The Sun! Who's that chick from the Matrix? The Oracle! Who's your date from last weekend? Palm!

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  4. In other news ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The fine folks at Mozilla have decided to join forces with the Linspire team.

    Please await *drumroll* LinFire 0.9 any day now..

    1. Re:In other news ... by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think "FireSpire" has a nice ring to it...

      A pinky ring, perhaps...

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  5. First post! by konkani · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It came to me in a moment of Linspiration"

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    1. Re:First post! by xortw · · Score: 4, Funny

      googles commant on the new name:
      Did you mean: inspire ?

    2. Re:First post! by artemis67 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it lucks.

  6. Oh no by re-Verse · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a Linsipid name. In my opnion it sounds like the name of a cheesy fly by night telemarketing company.. or a group that sell motivational self-help tapes to desperate and simple-minded middle management types.

    Not that I could do any better, I'm sure... but Linspire really sounds boring.

    1. Re:Oh no by jared_hanson · · Score: 3, Funny

      What were you expecting? Their first choice was Lindows. That name caused me to instantly and irreversibly lose any respect for the company.

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  7. Is it an OS or a car? by jamehec · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, do I install it on my computer, park it in my driveway, or drink it from a fancy bottle?

    Linspire. Whoever thought that up needs to get more linspired. Jeeeebus O'Reilly McChrist in a dead DeLorean. :rolleyes:

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  8. Terrible, terrible name by Schlemphfer · · Score: 4, Funny

    It sounds like a Korean car. I'm going to spend the next hour cringing. Really surprised they didn't go with LinDOS (a previous candidate) or something with a modicum of coolness. I guess the company isn't shelling out big bucks for its marketing department.

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    1. Re:Terrible, terrible name by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They're marketing all right... but Slashdot isn't their audience. They know true geeks won't touch their product with a 10 foot pole, but they're chasing after the people who wouldn't touch Linux with a 10 foot otherwise.

  9. Linspire? by bfg9000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    L'inspire? What is that, French? Aren't they the enemies or something now?

    They might as well have saved us a step and just named it "Freedom Linux" before we do it for them.

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  10. If they were really clever... by SparafucileMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    they'd call their software the Linspire Linsuit.

  11. Hmm... by MrNonchalant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The logo and domain name seem to be the only changes at Linspire.com, everything else still says Lindows. Can you say plausible deniability?

  12. Mon Dieu! by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

    L'inspire est le trademarke pour le Parlement du Francias! C'est et desitenement immedinantre! Alors!

  13. PR and Cybersquatting by LaNMaN2000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Lindows" was just a PR move and the trademark equivalent of cybersquatting. Let's not forget that the founder of the company got his start by registering mp3.com as well as slight variations of the URLs of other major sites and convincing a VC to fund him as a company. Yet again, though, his strategy worked pretty well.

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    1. Re:PR and Cybersquatting by Nephilium · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really... so Robertson registered mp3.com... everything I've seen says that he purchased it... Robertson and MP3 Nephilium

    2. Re:PR and Cybersquatting by LaNMaN2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For more info, see these links:

      http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2 00 0/d2000-0009.html (Talk-City.com)

      http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2000/Mar/0014 .h tml

      http://www.fool.com/specials/2000/sp000523b.htm (Tu-cows.com)

      Another poster may be right that mp3.com was purchased from a third party. But, Robertson has a history of typosquatting, etc.

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  14. Linspire? by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's a bit weak.

    Actually, it really sucks. Sorry, Michael Robertson, but you could have done better.

    "LindOS" cuts it better.

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  15. I Never Thought I'd Say This, by dupper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But Lindash was better. I think we need a Slashdot poll.

  16. Hasn't this been done before? by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shoddily made computers sold with a crippled version of an OS? Acer did it in the 90's they called it "Aspire". LAWSUIT AGAIN!

  17. I'd have much preferred by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Informative

    Linspire is non-consentual and "Microsoft-safe", and I can understand they want to avoid going through that again with the Redmond monster. But I'd have much preferred if they have renamed themselves "Lindoze" or "liNT" or "eXPect-more" or something like that, to piss them off...

    Oh well, bland name but still a cool company. I'm just glad they escaped their (first) legal stint with Microsoft more or less unscathed..

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  18. The lindows announcement. by asterism · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the blurb on their own site:

    http://info.lindows.com/linspire/Linspirelanding .h tml

  19. Related article on The Register by sczimme · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  20. Acer by TheTomcat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Acer is going to be pissed!

    S

  21. Big Deal by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Firstly theyt purposefully chose the name to rhyme with windows, hoping to cash in with average joe's familiarity with the term windows.

    But seriously how many average joe's just walk to best buy and buy a copy of windows OS and install it on their PC. Let's face it, most people just use the OS their PC came installed with.

    Given this fact, I fail to see how the name Lindows, was any beneficial. I mean, most people don't even know what an OS stands for, so what are the chances they go to buy Windows OS and install it on their own, and Now take a percentage of those extremely small nos. who will be fooled by the Lindows boxes sitting next to Windows boxes.

    And the ones who are comfortable installing their own OS, any ways are not likely to be misled. So the name choice was unfortunate to begin with. All it did was gave them a lot of publicity (which is not a bad thing) but I really wonder how many customers really bought it think it to be windows.

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  22. In other news by broothal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Only 45 hits on Google if you search for "linspire" at the time of writing. I wonder how many hits there will be tomorrow at the same time.
    Anyway, they seemed to have known this for quite some time. From a whois on linspire.com and linspire.org:

    Record created on 15-Jan-2004.

  23. Can't wait... by Tribbin · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... to try the new LDE with Lmail, Lword, Lonqueror and Lxmms. Not to forget Lozilla-Lirelox.

    Lat least lhey lon't lave lo lange lilo's lame!

    Solly, lounge got louse.

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  24. XPire rejected? by airConditionedGypsy · · Score: 5, Funny
    Hmmm, I guess XPire wasn't an attractive name option. It might draw some more ire..

    ok, i'll stop.

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  25. No. Lindows was a STUPID name. by sulli · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And it is blindingly obvious that it was chosen to draw fire from Microsoft. Maybe not to the hard-core unix geeks still wishing people think of X Window System when they hear "windows," but to anyone else.

    So, as expected, Microsoft played its part in this little Kabuki drama, and Lindows aka Linspire got its free publicity. And bully for them, I guess. But to suggest that they picked the name for any other reason is sheer folly.

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    1. Re:No. Lindows was a STUPID name. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      companies are required under law to defend their trademarks

      No they're not. Companies are free to stand back and let others appropriate a brand-name.

      I have no doubt that if Bill Gates had a time machine, he'd go back to that little company spreading Vaporware in 1983 and tell them to pick a less generic name than "Windows". But that's what they are stuck with.

      Absolutely backwords!! Claiming generic words as product names (and filetypes) has been a key part of Microsoft's successful strategy! "Insert a Bitmap file from Microsoft Paint into Microsoft Word and then save the Document file"

      The fact that Microsoft's product has a generic-sounding name makes it harder for customers to envision the existence of competitors. ("Microsoft DOS" was an earlier success at redefining a generic term "DOS" as a specific vendor's product)

    2. Re:No. Lindows was a STUPID name. by killjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who gave rights to the word "windows" to MS in the first place. It's a generic word, MS has no rights to it. If the lindows lawsuit actually gets decided I bet the judge will throw out the trademark altogether.

      It was wrong for MS to claim trademark on a common word.

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  26. How MS was able to trademark it by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Windows" is not a common noun in countries that do not have English as an official language. Among European countries, only the UK and Ireland seem to speak English in the trademark office.

  27. What a Lincredible name! by kelzer · · Score: 5, Funny

    It took tremendous Linsight to come up with the name "Linspire". I find the whole story quite Linteresting. Thanks for the Linformative links.

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  28. The more likely play on words by dedalus2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let MS chew on this it's a linspiracy.

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  29. Subliminal message: IN PERILS by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously it's a subliminal message... they believe our right brain will subconscously recognize LINSPIRE as an anagram of IN PERILS.

  30. What about... by oddpete · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think a good name change would have been Winux...

  31. Shoulda Called It Luck Lou Lill Lates by jcook793 · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah

  32. Just Wondering by Tharian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With all the controversy over changing the name to Lin---s or some such, why didn't they look at following their own comment about the "W" being all the problem and change it to something like LindOS and say that now it was a completely different name and wouldn't impinge on Microsoft's trademark?

    Wouldn't that have given them a name that was remarkably similar to their previous name to have recognition yet distinct enough to avoid ... well... I guess there might not be any avoiding a lawsuit from a company wanting to take out the competition.

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  33. Word marks by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    The script has nothing to do with the trademark.

    Oh really? There are word marks and there are drawings. "Coca-Cola" is a word mark. "Coca-Cola" written in a distinctive script is a drawing, and the distinctive script is part of the mark. "Crack-a-Cola" not written in the script would possibly infringe Coke's rights in the word mark but not at all on the drawing. And given that "cola" has become generic (I see it on Pepsi, RC, and store-bought soft drinks with similar flavors), are you so sure that Coke would have a case on the "Crack-a" part?

    1. Re:Word marks by schemanista · · Score: 2, Informative

      And given that "cola" has become generic

      Cola is a type of nut, high in methylxanthine alkaloids (also found in coffee, some teas, cocoa, etc.). It was native to West Africa but has been transplanted to South and Central America, among other places.

      You use the word "cola" with its commonly understood meaning: "a drink made with cola extract."

      Trademarking "cola" is possible in these End Times[TM], but hasn't been done yet. So, yes, "cola" is a generic in the same way that "soda pop" or "drink" is.

      While "Crack Cola" would probably be safe, "Crack-a-Cola" would get you a Cease and Desist order since it's well over the infringement line. The same standard which slapped down "Lindows" would apply in this situation.

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    2. Re:Word marks by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So let's get back to our roots: Cocaine-Cola...

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  34. new name for Lindows by mbrocato · · Score: 2, Funny

    I vote for calling it "All Your Windows Are Belong to Us"

  35. Whispering-Windows forced.. by Merlinium · · Score: 3, Interesting

    to also change their name to Whispering-Window because Redmond told them to. Whispering-Windows is not even a computer product, it's a speaker system for retail store windows.
    Next thing you know, when you build a house your going to have to purchase large panes of glass to be mounted in the side of a wall. When will this insane madness stop and common sense start to prevail? but then again I guess, common sense is not all that common.

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  36. Common use of the term clearly predates Microsoft by expro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The X Window System may not have been in common use yet, but the term "window" was already in very common use for creating UIs. You can find code all over that shows this. Even Emacs called the concept a "Window" long before that time.

    Microsoft has no right to claim "Windows" (or Office, which was in common use for Office Automation, etc.) and even less right to complain about Lindows or the X Window System. It should be "Microsoft Windows", and nothing shorter should be protectable, just like "X Window System" is protectable, but "Window System" should not be.

  37. Little guys CAN and DO fight giants by mec · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I doubt there's a single company that could handle being dragged through the world's courts by Microsoft, let alone a small one like them.

    Caldera International purchased the rights to DR-DOS, then sued Microsoft for the damage that Microsoft had done to DR-DOS.

    Caldera settled for an estimated $150 million from Microsoft.

    Microsoft settles Caldera Antitrust Case

    To be sure, Caldera later turned to the dark side in a big way. They are now suing another software giant.

  38. A more apt name would've been... by bugnuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lintimidated

  39. My name idea after everything... by mbourgon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lipshits.

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  40. Linnovative by rixstep · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think the new name is linteresting. It's linfective and very lintelligent. This little lincident with the itigation shows that great minds are not lidle for ong. With Microsoft linsisting they have lintellectual property rights on '---' any other countermeasure will ikely prove to be lineffective.

    Just as long as Linus doesn't come along and claim he owns the letter 'L' - which is hardly going to happen. He and Bill Gates weren't born on the same day, or come from the same mold.

    But let's not have any lillusions: Microsoft are a lillegal monopoly. They bode lill for the rest of the Linternet.

  41. Lindows in bed with SCO? by Doug+Neal · · Score: 2, Informative

    Had a look at their website and clicked on "SCO information" to see what their position on the whole SCO thing was. Suprisingly it looks like they've been "in talks" with SCO and even drawn up a contract. Are they paying SCO licenses? Come on Robertson, I know you're trying to do what's best for your business and all that, but SCO? Not cool.

  42. How about "Lintel"? by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Definition: "a horizontal member over windows."

    It would annoy Intel too, therby increasing publicity.

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