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Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released
boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore."
As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"
But I don't ever terminated the beta version download! Damn 2GB download, now I need to restart it again :/
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And did slashdot go offline in the past half hour? Doubtless someone has mentioned it already...
Will they offer delayed ISOs for the masses? Preinstalled Nvidia drivers, Flash etc. is a nice thing, and I can wait.
Installation was a breeze. So far USB2 support is not bad, my USB2 HD is working as it should. Thats all I have to report, but I like this version much better than 9 so far.
Wait a couple of weeks and they'll be available to non-club folks.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
Mandrake is just trying to trick people into thinking that it's OS X. It'll never work! Mandrake doesn't come with white spots!
The slashdot crew was installing the new Mandrake on all their servers at once.
The MandrakeClub forums have been burning up with flames regarding the Mandrake mirrors being totally fucked, and the download "mirrors" actually being links to bittorrents. I'm wondering if that will hurt thier business so soon after getting out of bankruptcy.
Congratulations, you're the 500th person to say that. YOU WIN A FREE PONY.
Repeal the DMCA!
Maybe it linked to itself? Major Ouroboros moment there!
I had to turn on CNN to make sure the North Koreans hadn't nuked Des Moines!
But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'? I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software. I use Gentoo, primarily because I think portage (I also use FreeBSD ;)) is the best thing since sliced bread. I also have the 2.6.5 kernel thanks to portage, and USB 2 support is better then ever.
I really think Mandrake, LLC (or what is it?) should concider using a different package/software manager in future releases. This gentoo forums post even describes how to install the superb portage on other distros.
Anyway, someone feel free to correct me or mod me down.
..heh heh, no lie, slashdot goes down, then my gnomedesktop froze, then I lost my landline connection, within like a minute or so! Man, I whipped on the shortwave to see if I should duck and cover or what!
Slashdot was down so some geek finally had time to do the work necessary for this release. Thank you Slashdot for helping us out!
> I have to wait for community written software in
> the form of an ISO because I am poor? Isn't that
> creating false scarcity? Information wants to be
> "free". Charge for support, not our software.
The "support" in this case is that mandrake took the time to put all the bits and pieces together.
And not to be rude, but please dont make it sound like having to wait a few weeks for a cutting edge distribution is a great injustice. You still get it for FREE, even though mandrake put millions into it.
Information doesn't wanna be anthropomorphized... that fucking quote was lame when it was invented, and it's lame now.
And they are largely defraying distribution costs by doing it this way.
And they are doing more than just shipping community software. Mandrake adds a decent amount of customization to linux. Don't like it? then go do a Linux From Scratch install or something.
And they are not depriving you of anything, just saying wait a bit, or pay a price to cut in line.
Yes, Virginia, there are costs associated with the world, and No, "But I don't like that" isn't a valid reason to ignore those costs.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
I downloaded the 3 ISOs for Mandrake 10 Community when it came out, and kept up with the updates throughout the next few weeks. I had it installed on an Asus L3C laptop that dual booted between XP and Linux. Here's my experiences:
1. Install: rocks. Take note Linux Distros, this is how things should happen, enough configuration available, but simple enough to let it go and go watch Family Guy instead.
2. Boot: One major issue, every time I booted it would alternate between thinking my Orinoco gold pcmcia wireless card would be not present, or thing a new one had been put in and try to reinstall it, this was a real pain the in ass, and was the major reason Mandrake 10 got booted for a second time (9.2 is no longer on my good list either) from this laptop. Maybe this distro is just better for desktops.
3. Usage: KDE 3.2 is nice, I like it, but quite frankly, I think I'm still a Gnome person. Also, if all the drak tools worked correctly all the time, I wouldn't have a problem with Mandrake having their config files all over the place, but tweaking config files by hand just isn't a good thing to do with this distro, and therefore some things just don't work properly (drakconnect!).
Overall, Mandrake is a nice distro, and is great for people new to Linux, but for more intermediate and advanced users, there's better things out there. Quite frankly, my laptop runs really really well using Slackware 9.1, Kernel 2.6.5, Dropline Gnome 2.6, and Swaret (using slackware-current) to automate the upgrade process. Yes, you have to get your hands dirty with Slackware sometimes, but at least things work like they're susposed to, and things that aren't there can be easily installed, and personalized shell/perl scripts are finally reality for those who want full control of their machine.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Mandrake has a ton of potential and I really want to see them succeed, it just still needs more polish. But compared to Fedora and SUSE, I think Mandrake is the best jumping in point for users who have never touched Linux before.
ce n'est pas un Sig.
uhm, are you just stupid or what?
try mandrake update. its easy. painless. simple. a monkey could do it.
if yer a little more clueful, try urpmi.
mandrake has all the package managers that redhat has, and all the package managers that gentoo has, and all the package managers that debian has too.
and some more.
get a clue. try it. its easy.
and to those people who say its not stable, wtf are you smoking? can i get some?
mandrake 10 "just works"...
According to the Mandrake Linux Users Club Page, among other things members of the club are entitled to:
(emphasis in original). Thus it appears that at least one of the differences between Communty and Official is that the latter contains proprietary software and drivers that need not and cannot be distributed pursuant to the GPL or other Open Source license.
Only Women Bleed (Sex, Sharia remix)
I am a silver member. I have been for some time. I am currently running 10.0 community on several of my systems so that I could at least help debug. Now, it appears that a silver member will only get you a desktop, not the real core. No APache. No hylafax. No kolab. No DB (postgres or mysql). Nothing.
Is there anybody here from mandrake who can help explain why it appears that those of us who helped bring you out of bankruptcy are suddenly being screwed?
I will be downloading it, but if the web page was correct about this, then I will be canceling the membership and turning 10 families on over to a different distro. Hopefully, it it just a screw up in how things are presented.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
In small backlash, office girls around the world report increase in bad flirting by guys with dorky hair cuts.
Meanwhile, Microsoft Super-Secret Tracking Server Explodes. "It appears that everyone opened Minesweeper at once", claims Steve Ballmer, "and all those Windows machines 'phoning home' about the application launch was just too much for our server to take."
"We were damn lucky that Solitaire launches are sent to a different tracking server", he added.
I've found that my posts don't format quite right w/o a sig.
Newsflash: Information is not sentient and doesn't want anything. Repeating something ad nauseum doesn't make it true. Not even if RMS thinks so.
Despite the great efforts Mandrake takes to only ship GPL'ed software and providing the results of their hard labor for free, some people will always complain.
Let me ask you this: What did YOU contribute to the open source world (or free software, since you are parrotting RMS). And if you did contribute anything significant, where can I download it (using bandwidth that YOU paid for). And where can I go and bitch and complain if it doesn't live up to my ethical standards?
"Mandrake official released" ? They should just thrown away the key.
Your comparison between Mandrake 10 Community and Debian Sarge is completly stupid.
The fact that you got some probleme with mdk and everything worked fine on your Debian Sarge does mean it's the case for everybody. I can find people who had no problem installing Mandrake 10 and could not install Sarge.
And KDE running only as root is not the normal behavior, you probably found a bug (or did something wrong), that's what the Community release is for : to help find this kind or bugs.
wtf.n0x.org
For everyone that is running 10.0 CE and wants to upgrade: urpmi.removemedia -a (clears urpmi setup) then urpmi.addmedia main ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/ RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586/ with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.pcds.ch/pub/plf/mandrake/10.0 with hdlist.cz
and finally...
urpmi --auto-select
done ;)
hmmm... did you just try to install the packages first ? There is no such thing as a "desktop" distro or a "server" distro for Mandrake...
Ok, you need to check the group of packages saying "Databases" to have the databases (like postgres) installed, it may not install MySQL by default, but if you go in your Mandrake Control Center, you can actually install that software (it even tells you which cd to install).
By the way, software works better if installed... ;-)
And I'm using a Mdk 10.0 Community to tell you this (yes, I have mysql, apache, .... all installed).
Join the club. I hope you realize the irony in that statement.