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Futurama: Can it be True!?

foolinator writes "Wired News has reported that Futurama could be making a comeback! From the article: "Last year, Futurama and Family Guy reruns did so well that it's likely both shows (which Fox killed in prime time) will produce new episodes." " Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again.

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  1. Hooray! by FannyMinstrel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I truely hope that they both come back, particularly Futurama.

    Ah, Zoidy, what are we doing without you?

  2. All-cartoon prime time? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows, and the jokes can be so much clearer, plus you can fly under the FCC's crazy censorship witch-hunting by being "just a harmless cartoon".

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    1. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by zakezuke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows

      I think I would prefer cartoon primetime over reality TV. Let's see the current Fox lineup on that front

      America's most wanted
      Cops
      My big fat obnoxious fiance
      The simple life
      Totally outrageous behavior caught on tape
      The Swan

      And the ever popular American Idol --www.fox.com

      The Dead Kennedys had a line in thier song MTV Get Off The Air "Allowing it to sink as low in one year As commercial TV has in 25". The shows listed are the likes of which you'd expect to be in scetch comedy. I'm not saying that Futurama or Family Guy is the apex of modern entertainment... but it's at least entertainment rather then vomit.

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    2. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by tb3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm afraid you're too much of an optimist. The sad truth is we're heading towards a prime time populated entirely by 'reality' programming. (I put reality in quotes because anyone who believes reality is really like that needs their head examined.)
      Those kind of shows are so cheap to make and draw such high ratings that they will completely take over the airwaves in a year or two.

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  3. Is it the money? by zora · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems like too much of a coincidence that while the Simpsons actors are holding out for $8 Million / season that Fox suddenly takes an intrest in Futurama? Say it aint so!

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    1. Re:Is it the money? by SuperMo0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Either that, or they are the most clueless idiots on planet earth...

      Well, since we're talking about them cancelling Family Guy and Futurama... and this is the same network that aired The Simple Life... that verdict's up in the air.

  4. Skeptic by Punscho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really am since we all know fox are evil. (Score 1, insightful)
    What about new FG episodes on DVD? I heard some rumour about that...

  5. Re:FP by goatan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Last year, Futurama and Family Guy reruns did so well that it's likely both shows (which Fox killed in prime time) will produce new episodes."

    Do the executives ever watch these programs if they did they would realise what a bad idea killing them off would be. Most programs that have a large audience in there first series usually trail off by the second and third (think of most reality shows). Most quality series build up a fan base slowly by word of mouth, which is what has happened with the re-runs.

    Message to SKY/FOX please stop repeating the same Simpson episodes in the same week it's boring and putting me off the Simpson's.

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  6. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.
    If that's a joke, it's not very funny.
  7. Only to be pre-empted by Fox Football by shoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm a huge fan of Futurama and Family Guy, but I'm convinced that Fox is only doing this as "fodder" for pre-emption by football games.

    During Futurama's last season there was a two-month stretch where no Futurama was shown at all (even though it was in the schedule).

  8. Re:The question is... by SuperMo0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.

    Due in no small part to the fact that they're able to create episodes in a week, if need be.

  9. South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Threed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.

    Anyway, when these shows come back, I'd be concerned about the voice talent, the writers, the desire of the studio to just crank out some crap hoping the title of the show keeps people watching. I mean, have you seen the Simpsons lately? Definately past its prime.

    Maybe, and I hope I'm wrong, these shows were cut down in their prime for a good reason: to avoid jumping the shark.

    Now here's a show I'd love to see brought back, but it'll never happen... Invader ZIM. Too bad, the creative genius of the show has gone on record saying he'd rather die than animate.

  10. OBEY THE FIST! by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, now we've got the second best science-fiction comedy cartoon of all time un-cancelled, a concerted effort must be made to rescue Invader Zim from Nickelodeon. Irkan dominance must not be denied!

    SoupIsGood Food

  11. Hooray for Zoidberg by bangular · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know if anyone else remembers what Futurama was replaced with. Oliver Beane. One of the shittiest shows ever. People joke about Fox executives being a bunch of monkeys that have no clue about programming, but it's really true. Every single truly good show Fox gets it cancels. What is it replaced with? Midgets, people injuring themselves, TV bloopers, weddings, police chases, reality shows, absolute shit. The ratings may be high for those shows, but they are only high because they are extreme. Once people become censatized they must become more extreme. It's an arms race. Just look at the wedding shows of 3 years ago compared to todays. There's nothing about these shows that have lasting value or anything that's fundamentally entertaining about them.

    Zoidberg, now he's entertaining. The rubber band is on the other claw now!!

    1. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Spankophile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmmm. let me just re-read your post again.


      Every single truly good show Fox gets it cancels.

      Okay.

      The ratings may be high for those [replacement] shows, [...]because they are extreme.


      Now, I'm no TV exec, but something tells me that canceling a show, and then replacing it with one that gets high ratings isn't such a dumb thing to do?

    2. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Dejitaru+Neko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you meant to say, "every single truly good show that isn't making money hand over fist for Fox, it cancels."

      Well, of course. As much as we geeks would like to see quality in the shows aired by a network, it is ultimately the viewership of the public in general which decides the shows we will see. Greater viewership leads to greater revenues for the network, and unfortunately enough, the trend is that money will win over quality.

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    3. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by B3ryllium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The point is that the reality shows have a big bang of ratings at the start, but they are not sustainable. They can't be rerun, they get progressively more "extreme" to conceptualize and produce, and they are basically eventually going to work themselves out of a market. Obviously there are a few exceptions to that statement (The Apprentice, Survivor, American Idol), but for the majority of reality shows ... you can only see people getting hurt in unique new ways so many times, before you start craving something with more substance (ER, The Simpsons, The Practice, Law and Order).

      So, replacing a show with one that gets higher ratings might be a good move in the short term, but if you put quality television on that draws viewers in with subtle and/or intelligent and/or entertaining plotlines, you will eventually get a locked-in core audience that can support your network's other endeavors. The Simpsons has such a locked in audience. That's why the current execs are so loathe to cancel it; while it sort of straddles the border between "good" tv and "fox" tv, it was given a chance to capture a core audience - it is now an unstoppable juggernaut.

      Fox needs to hold on to its potential juggernauts, and stop cancelling them! I mean, fer chrissakes ... stop changing timeslots, even! That would solve half the problems.

  12. Don't hold your breath... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    FOX executives know as much about entertainment, as FOX News execs do about news. You'd almost think they ran Sci-fi, I know! Let's replace Farscape with Tripping the Rift (aka Proof that Quebec is the humorless wasteland everyone thinks it is).

    What I would wish, is that we all get neilson boxes. And those boxes control one candy dispenser for, and one cattle prod rectally inserted inm each network executive. But the small amount of voltage contributed to either the candy machine or cattle prod is multiplied by the average IQ of the household where it resides.

  13. Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by ScottGant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the new Fox lineup starting at 8pm, 7 central:

    8:00 = The Simpsons

    8:30 = Futurama (Oliver Bean was funnier when it was called "The Wonder Years")

    9:00 = The Family Guy (Malcome in the Middle should be Malcom in the Unemployment line)

    9:30 = Arrested Development (this is a GREAT show, please keep it idiots)

    Please note, there are no laugh tracks in any of the above shows...as you don't need to tell us when something is funny. (Animated before a live audience?)

    Also, Fox WILL stop from the idiotic news teases such as "Alarming news about a certain new food you could be eating right at this very moment that could instantly kill you...we'll tell you about it at 10pm".

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    1. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by TrentL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think any day from Monday to Thursday, from 8:00pm onward, would be a great time. The Sunday pre-8:00pm timeslot SUCKS. It sends a message that a show isn't important, and it's inconvenient. I'm usually watching 60 Minutes at that point.

    2. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm usually watching football at that point ... on FOX.

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    3. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Chewie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll agree with you on The Tick. It had a lot of potential that just didn't click. I think if they hadn't burned through cash like nothing, it could have worked.

      GTB, on the other hand, made me laugh every single episode. Some didn't like it, others thought it was great. I am clearly in the latter camp.

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    4. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by kaltkalt · · Score: 1, Insightful

      a lot of the humor in AD is so subtle that most people are too stupid to get it (especially w/out a laugh track to tell them when something funny happens). this is probably AD's downfall. what a shame.

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    5. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like Malcolm a lot as well. They took a few episodes before they really began to get funny, but now they are very consistently funny, IMO. Also, if i'm not mistaken, they are another show without a laugh-track.

    6. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Dog135 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On an animation forum I'm on, we talked about this. If you get enough artists together, and do the animatics ahead of time, you can actually do it.

      But you'd need 3600 animators, each given 5 minutes to finish a frame, or 720 animators with 1 minute per frame.

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    7. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by mini+me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention that Futurama was always preempted due to Football. How does FOX expect a show to get good ratings when it's never on? Is there not something wrong when the general public understands FOX's marketing better than they do themselves?

  14. Let's fighting love by bangular · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're telling me you didn't laugh at let's fighting love? and butters getting a throwing star in his eye? or "you got served"?

  15. Family Guy - why it's good by GoneGaryT · · Score: 1, Insightful
    It's extremely well observed. Being paraplegic myself, I can vouch for much of the characterisation of Joe ("Let's do it!", over-reaction to failure, attitudes of other people, access problems, babe of a wife... no, wait...). I'm told that the Seth man says (in the boxed set DVD edition with all the extras and trimmings which came out a week after I bought all 3 seasons seperately damn you Fox Home Entertainment may your death be painful) these characters are based on real people in RI.

    I'm very glad they're making more. "It's a jackal!"

  16. Re:FP by EricWright · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hello... "Do the executives ever watch these programs...?"

    Well, yes... they probably do. But, since they're executives, there's a slim chance that they're also geeky enough to "get" Futurama. Futurama was packed with side jokes related to programming, physics, linguistics, etc. No executive worth his washroom key would understand any of that...

  17. Futurama probably won't come back by David_Bloom · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I love Futurama, it really was the best show on television, but I think the reference to its "revival" in this article is just some stupid reporter misinterpreting some stuff somebody told them. We'd have gotten a more official, specific news article about this if the show was really being revived.


    Now, Family Guy, on the other hand, has a shot - I've seen articles about its possible revival thanks to strong DVD sales.


    Everyone, put your CSS and region-control concerns behind you, and buy a fuckload of Futurama DVDs.

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  18. Spoon! by Art_XIV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if only Fox would bring the back The Tick. (The animated version! The animated version!)

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  19. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Christianfreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't like Futurama you probably didn't get the jokes. :)

  20. Never really got into Futurama by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I was a huge Simpsons fan, until I got tired of 50% of all the writing being a parody of something else. But it was a great show, regardless. Futurama...well, I tried to watch it a couple of times, and I didn't get it. I saw how it was trying to be funny, but it was so forced.

    Now King of the Hill...there's a slickly written and funny show. It has lines which are completely brilliant, without just being throwaways or parodies of other shows or movies.

  21. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by mrscorpio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, that's why Jeff Foxworthy isn't popular at all....NOT.

    Chris

  22. Re:I think we know what to say.... by fyonn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    excuse me! I think you'll find it's daffodil! :)

    dave

  23. Interesting by cubicledrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it? How something has to be canceled before anybody notices it was doing well? Someone needs to figure out what it is about middle management that makes them insist on canceling/firing/destroying as a first alternative for everything.

    Profits down? Fire people. Ratings down? Cancel it. Not making seven figures pure pocket-stuffing profit a day? Destroy it. What if these guys worked in agriculture? They'd probably bulldoze the whole fucking farm because they weren't shipping truckloads of wheat bread and salsa by Thursday.

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  24. Re:You're Fired! (tm) by cubicledrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not a chance. Probably got promoted and given a bayside apartment and six-figure bonus because the next quarter's numbers were up 20%. (Then down 40% the following quarter, after the bonus check was cashed).

    Management can't lose. If they cancel it and fire everyone, they take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it doesn't get the ratings, they fire everyone (because it was their fault) and take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it gets good ratings, they take credit for the increased ad revenue and the success of the show (it was their idea, of course), and they wait unti the end of the season to fire everyone, and take credit for the cost reduction. It's the perfect job.

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  25. Re:The question is... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which can hurt them, too. Spike TV's "This Just In" tries the same thing with very little success. Even jokes that SHOULD be funny aren't funny when they do them.

    It takes a special show to become more than the sum of its collaboraters. Adult Swim has it a lot of the time. Family Guy had it. South Park had it, lost it, and last season regained it. And Futurama has it in droves...in fact, as The Simpsons slowly became an exercise in self worship, Futurama started slicing at the bleeding edge of parody, with some of the most hilarious dialog on TV.

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  26. Actually.... by dackroyd · · Score: 2, Insightful


    You are one hundred percent wrong.

    Decent cartoons actually cost far more than the crap reality shows to make. Alledgedly Futurama cost something like $1 million dollars an episode to produce, due to it's high quality animation.

    Thats why Fox canned them in the first place - they did it to bump their short term profits.

    However quality shows like Futurama and Family Guy have much greater long term value - they can be shown on TV for years and DVD sales are also very great - whereas who gives a rats ass about last years reality shows ? And who wants to watch repeats of them for years on end ?

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  27. Re:The question is... by SuperMo0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It also takes a steady time slot. Both Futurama and Family Guy, if I recall correctly, were victims of FOX bumping it around their lineup a whole lot trying to find where it'd work best, but inevitably just screwing with their audience's head by not letting them get settled with when the show was on.

  28. Re:And in related news... by hambonewilkins · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Matt Groening will be guest starring as himself this Sunday on the Simpsons in his first speaking role!

    Proof positive that the jumping of the shark has commenced. Seriously, stick a fork in it, it's no longer funny. What used to be the greatest sitcom of "ALL TIME!" is now pretty weak and is painful for me to watch.

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  29. So many cancellations... by Wateshay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, if Fox were to bring back all the great shows they've cancelled over the years, they could singlehandedly wipe out reality TV (largely because they wouldn't have any time to show it).

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  30. I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing is, Futurama was one of those shows that was driven by one character's unrequited love for another. (Although I suppose there are some who'll argue that it was driven by comedy. Pshaw!) It ended with a story where it looked like Fry and Leela were finally getting together, though the writers left some wiggle room. Now, what would happen in a new season? Either:

    1. The writers take advantage of that wiggle room -- no, Fry and Leela didn't really get together; he's still pining for her, she's still turning him down. That's depressing, after everything that happened in the finale. I don't want to see that.

    2. They DO get together, and live happily ever after. I'm glad for them, but I don't want to watch that. It's boring. That's why "happily ever after" is always at the end of the story. It's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit.

    Alternatively, they could get together, and then have it not work out. That's even more depressing than the first option.

    OK, so I'm a hopeless romantic.

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    1. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by ImpTech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bah! This is Matt Groening. He has dissolved plotlines with no explaination whatsoever before, he can do it again!

  31. Another Gem by MateoZero013 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again."

    FUCK that. Instead Firefly coming back, the Sci-Fi channel shoul bring back FARSCAPE!!!! Damn you insensitive clods!

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