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AT&T Wireless Announces Music ID Service

mindless4210 writes "AT&T Wireless announced today the release of their new Music ID Service from Musicphone. AT&T customers can identify songs by dialing '#ID' and holding their phones next to the music source. Daily Wireless did a full review of the new service, testing it in several environments against different genres of music. Now you can finally figure out the name of that song on the radio that you've been dying to know!"

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  1. Is this a cool idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes

  2. Good idea, too much money. by jrj102 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've done extensive development work in the area of audio watermarking and audio fingerprinting, and I'm amazed that AT&T can make this happen, given the reduced fidelity of a wireless phone connection. Music fingerprinting technology is a smaller (and more approachable) problem domain than open-ended speech recognition, but still this is quite an achievement.

    I congratulate them on the technical achievement, but I think that $0.99 (which is the price quoted in the review) is way too high a price for this service-- for that I could actually buy the song on iTunes or Napster. Unless they drop the price, I don't think this service will be terribly successful.

    On an interesting note, it is not clear from their TOS whether or not you still have to pay for a song recognition even if the service is unable to accurately provide you with the song title.

    Cool idea, but not for a buck.

    --- JRJ

    1. Re:Good idea, too much money. by MaineCoon · · Score: 4, Funny

      How could you buy it on iTunes or Napster, unless you know the name?

      Now, will their system overload if you try to get it to recognize Death Metal?

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    2. Re:Good idea, too much money. by jrj102 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not if you don't know the name of it...

      OK, fair enough... but we're talking relative value here: if the song itself is worth a dollar then how much is the NAME of the song worth? It just doesn't seem like a good value for my money.

      What they need to do is offer 100 songs for $10 or something, or add it as a flat-fee monthly addition to your service. (or, dare I say, a free value-add to distinguish their cell phone service from others!) Obviously, nobody at AT&T has read Seth Godin's Free Prize Inside.

    3. Re:Good idea, too much money. by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be better if they bundled the pricing with an option to purchase the song as well. Chances are that if I want to know the name of the song, I would buy it as well. A buck for the name of the song and buying it becomes a value to me.

    4. Re:Good idea, too much money. by phatsharpie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On an interesting note, it is not clear from their TOS whether or not you still have to pay for a song recognition even if the service is unable to accurately provide you with the song title.

      From the article:

      AT&T will let you test the service for free your first call, but everytime after that it costs $.99 cents, plus standard airtime charges. If it can't guess the song, then your next call is free.

      Not fan of the "next call is free" policy. I'd rather have the current call to be free. Who knows when will I try to use it again.

      -B

    5. Re:Good idea, too much money. by MisterFancypants · · Score: 5, Informative
      The question, however, is this: is it good enough to correctly identify the song if I hum a few bars?

      No. These audio fingerprinting services work by comparing audio samples of the songs (as recorded). They won't work if you hum a few bars into the phone. Hell, they wouldn't work if you played the tune almost perfectly on a piano, for that matter.

    6. Re:Good idea, too much money. by adamgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the "next call is free" policy, i would assume, is implemented to discourage people from abusing the system.. with music they KNOW the system can't identify. i.e. they still have to pay for a call to get their freebie.. if every call it misses on is instantly free, i am sure some drunken frat boys would be calling all night farting into the phone just to giggle at the results. or maybe not.

    7. Re:Good idea, too much money. by amembleton · · Score: 4, Informative
      I've done extensive development work in the area of audio watermarking and audio fingerprinting, and I'm amazed that AT&T can make this happen, given the reduced fidelity of a wireless phone connection.

      Then prepare to be amazed!

      I've been using the same tech here in the UK for the past year and it really does work. Most of the stuff I listen to is not chart stuff, I didn't believe it would be all that good but, yes it really is.

      When you'd kill for the name of the song and your mates don't know it, then its great to just dial 2580 and direct your phone's mic towards the nearest speaker. Shazam then sends you a text of the name of the song and you can access a list of all your songs on the Shazam website. It costs 59p here which is ~99c.

      For those suggesting that you should be able to get a song with your purchase; Shazam let you get a ringtone (mono or polyphonic) just after you get the name of the track. I haven't used this yet so can't commment on it.

      As for its accuracy I've only once had a problem with it and that was because I was in a club with very bad audio and decided to basically 'test' Shazam out. There was a part of Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Sprirt that didn't sound anything like it should - just a lot of high pitch noise. Shazam couldn't work it out, so I got my next song name or 'tag' for just 9p.

      You will be suprised by this service.

    8. Re:Good idea, too much money. by sydb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please tell us more about the 1% of songs you want names for, but you don't know the songs. I am interested in surrealism.

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    9. Re:Good idea, too much money. by cheezit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Let's see...ultra-mechanical rhythms, very repetitive, cookie-monster vocals, no dynamics....I bet death metal would be easy. Plus, if it misidentified a song, who would know?

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  3. Hello, ClearChannel? by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know, it used to be the responsibility of the DJ to make sure listeners knew the name and artist of the tracks they played. They didn't have to say it every song, but they should do so before or after any new song that might not be familiar to the listeners yet.

    Of course, that was before Clear Channel laid all the local DJs off in most markets. Now, the same network DJ banter can be heard before different songs in some cases...

  4. My radio tells me the song name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Now you can finally figure out the name of that song on the radio that you've been dying to know!
    The radio in my car (a 2000 model) has a little button labeled "Info." If I press it, on many stations the name of the song will scroll across the display. This is just the factory standard Chevy radio that came with the car. I don't need my cellphone for this, you insensitive clod!
  5. Google is my savior by talaper · · Score: 5, Informative

    whenever I want to find out the name of a song that I heard on the radio, I just go to google and type in a lyric or 2 that I remember, and the word 'lyrics'.

    it hasn't failed me yet!

    1. Re:Google is my savior by utahjazz · · Score: 3, Informative

      What's that song that goes, like, A# G# F F F and then an A7 chord?

      Behold Classical Music Search

      I'm afraid there is no classical song that goes A# G# F F F, followed by anything from A7.

  6. Re:Shazam by Mose250 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, yes it does... As the article clearly states: "The service is provided by Musicphone in cooperation with UK-based Shazam Entertainment. Shazam claims that their pattern recognition technology can identify recorded audio even under noisy conditions. Their music information database is Europe's largest, holding over 1,600,000 music tracks."

  7. The Last DJ. by DAldredge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see

    How much you'll pay for what you used to get for free

    And there goes the last DJ

    Who plays what he wants to play

    And says what he wants to say

    Hey, hey, hey

    And there goes your freedom of choice

    There goes the last human voice

    And there goes the last DJ

    Tom Petty

    1. Re:The Last DJ. by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 4, Funny

      And there goes the last DJ

      And there goes the last DJ


      Damn, if only I knew the title of that song...

      Cheers,
      IT

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  8. this can't possibly work for the stuff i listen to by aberant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously this has to cater to the top 40 kinda crap that's be marketed as actual music to everyone today. what would really impress is being able to hold it up to some obscure jazz/electronic album and having the phone identify it. if you listen to any top 40 station for an hour, you can just as easily identify one of these songs as this phone can

  9. Missing feature: by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny

    [Digital Operator type voice]
    I'm sorry, the song you are trying to ID is by... Brittany ... Spears. Please hang up, and listen to something good.
    [/Digital Operator type voice]

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  10. but... by ambienceman · · Score: 5, Funny

    AT&T still sucks...

    I'd like to see when they introduce the new feature that allows me to actually make a call...and maybe a new feature that allows me to promptly speak with a customer rep.
    1. Re:but... by fo0bar · · Score: 3, Funny
      I'd like to see when they introduce the new feature that allows me to actually make a call...

      I'm not sure what you mean... My "outdated" AT&T TDMA phone is great. All of the other providers and technologies have phased out making calls, while introducing "features" such as surround sound ringtones, stamp-sized streaming pornography, camera, and The Mobile ARPAnet(TM).

      Call me old fashioned, but I like the antiquated style of punching in a phone number, taking into a microphone, and listening for a response.

  11. Re:this can't possibly work for the stuff i listen by electrichamster · · Score: 4, Informative

    No seriously, I've tried this on some really random music and it generally gets it right.
    For example, I tried it on a bit of music in the film "The Shawshank Redemption", and it correctly named it as being composed *for* the film - and named it too (it was something like "Shawshank prison music").

    It made me go "ooooh", big time.

  12. AT&T sell it, not make it by Albanach · · Score: 3, Informative

    As some others have said, this technology has been around for a while now. Shazam were (iirc) the first to offer it in the UK. They charge 59p or about the same 99 cents. The Shazam service was covered in Scientific American in June 2003 and has been mentioned on /. a few times in the last year.

  13. Re:Does anyone know this song? by Atomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think it's S.O.S.

  14. Good for contests by good-n-nappy · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only real use for this is to win those contests on the radio where they play a 2 second snippet from a song and you have to guess what song it is.

    I have to say though, that I pity anyway who actually participates in these contests.

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  15. Indie and other non-mainstream? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting service, but how well will it work with independent, non-mainstream artists?

    Susan Gibson wrote and originally recorded the song "Wide Open Spaces" It became a hit for the Dixie Chicks. What happens if I put the phone to the radio while a station that knows the difference is playing the original version?

    Would an artist like Slaid Cleaves or Mark David Manders, which you won't hear on your local corporate country channel, even be identified?

    I suspect the music library won't be broad enough to support the people who actually care about the music enough to use the service.

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  16. Does this tell you anything? by David+Hume · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does the following tell you anything? (I'll leave it to the reader to decide "about what"... if anything.)

    Trial 1
    Artist:Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    Song Title: By the Way
    Quality: CD
    Environment: Office
    Record Time: 22 seconds
    Response Time: 14 seconds
    Verdict: Correct

    Trial 2
    Artist: Ludacris
    Song Title: What's Your Fantasy
    Quality: CD
    Environment: Office
    Record Time: 18 seconds
    Response Time: 16 seconds
    Verdict: Correct

    Trial 3
    Artist: AC/DC
    Song Title: You Shook Me All Night Long
    Quality: Radio
    Environment: Car
    Record Time: 25 seconds
    Response Time: 15 seconds
    Verdict: Correct

    Trial 4
    Artist: Mary Wells
    Song Title: My Guy
    Quality: Radio
    Environment: Car
    Record Time: 17 seconds
    Response Time: 18 seconds
    Verdict: Correct

    Trial 5
    Artist: Beethoven
    Song Title: Moonlight Sonata
    Quality: CD
    Environment: Office
    Record Time: 24 Seconds
    Response Time: About 3 Minutes
    Verdict: STUMPED


    Let's see. Red Hot Chilli Peppers, yep. Ludacris, of course. AC/DC (even on the radio), check. Mary Wells (also on the radio), good to go.

    Beethoven? Who the hell? "Moonlight Sonata???" Sure it was CD quality, but... Beethoven?

    1. Re:Does this tell you anything? by Soporific · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd bet it had trouble differentiating it from the 8 zillion different recordings of Moonlight Sonata. It is still interesting though.

      ~S

  17. Missing something by Paladin144 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think many of you are missing something, but it's also possible that you don't listen to a lot of obscure music. Sure, I listen to all the latest rock music, but I also like to listen to our local classical music channel here in MN, 99.5 FM.

    I love classical, but it's a real bitch figuring out the song names. Hell, most of the time it's something like: "Concerto No. 432, Op. 5341: Andante con margarine" or something equally lame. If this service could help me out with that, it would be worth a buck to me.

    I've listened to brilliant classical works, and then the announcer comes on and says (in his heavily-tranquilized drawl) a bunch of words I've never freaking heard before. No doubt it's the name of some obscure foreign composer and the foreign conductor and the foreign symphony that played the tune, which has a name derived from latin. Great. That fucking helps me a bunch.

    Oh, and that's another thing; the songs can go on forever. If he plays 3 or 4 movements it can easily be a half hour. Don't get me wrong; I love the station (no commercials!), and I love classical music, but can this service really tell the difference between Handel and Mozart? And for that matter, can it tell me which movement, and who is conducting? Please excuse my skepticism, but I seriously fucking doubt it. The idea is great, and it's useful to me since my tastes range from pop to ultra-obscure, but does it work?

  18. The Neuros MP3 player.. by bishiraver · · Score: 4, Informative

    has had this functionality since it comes out. You can press a button on it, and it will record a 30 second clip from the radio, line in, or mic. The next time you sync with your organization utility on your PC, it copies the 30 second clip over and uses a technology like this to identify the clip. It works pretty well, too.