AT&T Wireless Announces Music ID Service
mindless4210 writes "AT&T Wireless announced today the release of their new Music ID Service from Musicphone. AT&T customers can identify songs by dialing '#ID' and holding their phones next to the music source. Daily Wireless did a full review of the new service, testing it in several environments against different genres of music. Now you can finally figure out the name of that song on the radio that you've been dying to know!"
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I've done extensive development work in the area of audio watermarking and audio fingerprinting, and I'm amazed that AT&T can make this happen, given the reduced fidelity of a wireless phone connection. Music fingerprinting technology is a smaller (and more approachable) problem domain than open-ended speech recognition, but still this is quite an achievement.
I congratulate them on the technical achievement, but I think that $0.99 (which is the price quoted in the review) is way too high a price for this service-- for that I could actually buy the song on iTunes or Napster. Unless they drop the price, I don't think this service will be terribly successful.
On an interesting note, it is not clear from their TOS whether or not you still have to pay for a song recognition even if the service is unable to accurately provide you with the song title.
Cool idea, but not for a buck.
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Turn this on next to will hung and watch a phone kill itself.
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Thanks.
You know, it used to be the responsibility of the DJ to make sure listeners knew the name and artist of the tracks they played. They didn't have to say it every song, but they should do so before or after any new song that might not be familiar to the listeners yet.
Of course, that was before Clear Channel laid all the local DJs off in most markets. Now, the same network DJ banter can be heard before different songs in some cases...
whenever I want to find out the name of a song that I heard on the radio, I just go to google and type in a lyric or 2 that I remember, and the word 'lyrics'.
it hasn't failed me yet!
having been in use here some time ago, maybe a year ago, or two?
can any other Finnish people confirm?
I thought it to be just a cool gimmick, not something that real people would use.
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Yes, yes it does... As the article clearly states: "The service is provided by Musicphone in cooperation with UK-based Shazam Entertainment. Shazam claims that their pattern recognition technology can identify recorded audio even under noisy conditions. Their music information database is Europe's largest, holding over 1,600,000 music tracks."
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How much you'll pay for what you used to get for free
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
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And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ
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Its called Shazam and its been available for at least a year now. From what I've tried of the service, it works quite well.
Cost is 59pence per call (which must be about 35 cents or something in US of A money).
Obviously this has to cater to the top 40 kinda crap that's be marketed as actual music to everyone today. what would really impress is being able to hold it up to some obscure jazz/electronic album and having the phone identify it. if you listen to any top 40 station for an hour, you can just as easily identify one of these songs as this phone can
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The radio data system that is in a large chunk of new stereo's should make this service fairly ineffective. Most major radio stations now broadcast the song title and artist along with the music, and many new stereo's can do this. Why pay a buck for each song when you can buy a decent stereo and get the same thing for EVERY song. An example of a stereo with RDS can be found here. Not to mention satellite radio. If you look up a song every few days, you'd be able to pay your satellite radio bill instead.
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[Digital Operator type voice] ... Spears. Please hang up, and listen to something good.
I'm sorry, the song you are trying to ID is by... Brittany
[/Digital Operator type voice]
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AT&T still sucks...
I'd like to see when they introduce the new feature that allows me to actually make a call...and maybe a new feature that allows me to promptly speak with a customer rep.MY SECRET DIARIES
No seriously, I've tried this on some really random music and it generally gets it right.
For example, I tried it on a bit of music in the film "The Shawshank Redemption", and it correctly named it as being composed *for* the film - and named it too (it was something like "Shawshank prison music").
It made me go "ooooh", big time.
More useless services from cellphone companies.
Like personalized ring tones and bust-your-thumbs instant messaging? B-)
They're TELEPHONE companies, dude!
They learned a long time ago that millions of customers dribbling in a buck here-and-there for "value added" services add up to BIG BUCKS! They COULD have provided this for free, as a convenient side-effect of the computers they used to cut the cost of their switching equipment. It's just a bunch of software hacks. But why give it away when they can CHARGE for it, and people are willing to PAY?
When will they get to lowering rates and giving cheap internet access? Hmm?
Cheap? Probably never. Or when they're going broke due to competition from other companies that ARE providing such a service cheaply. Even then they're probably price it at "all the traffic will bear" and count on their broad coverage to get them customers despite cheaper competition.
They WILL roll out non-cheap portable internet services - eventually. But don't hold your breath. Expect it to be folded into some other upgrade to their cell systems (like the upcoming move to QoS-enabled-IP based voice transport) rather than a standalone upgrade.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
so I wonder what it'll tell me about my rendition of "rubber ducky" while I take a shower?
it'd probably come back with "don't quit your day job" by "at&t".
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As some others have said, this technology has been around for a while now. Shazam were (iirc) the first to offer it in the UK. They charge 59p or about the same 99 cents. The Shazam service was covered in Scientific American in June 2003 and has been mentioned on /. a few times in the last year.
The only real use for this is to win those contests on the radio where they play a 2 second snippet from a song and you have to guess what song it is.
I have to say though, that I pity anyway who actually participates in these contests.
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Interesting service, but how well will it work with independent, non-mainstream artists?
Susan Gibson wrote and originally recorded the song "Wide Open Spaces" It became a hit for the Dixie Chicks. What happens if I put the phone to the radio while a station that knows the difference is playing the original version?
Would an artist like Slaid Cleaves or Mark David Manders, which you won't hear on your local corporate country channel, even be identified?
I suspect the music library won't be broad enough to support the people who actually care about the music enough to use the service.
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2) Get song title by searing for above lyrics on Google, add "lyrics" to end of search string.
3) Load iTunes to sample song and check other songs by Artist.
4) Download song on favorite P2P network (see www.zeropaid.com for many).
Does the following tell you anything? (I'll leave it to the reader to decide "about what"... if anything.)
Let's see. Red Hot Chilli Peppers, yep. Ludacris, of course. AC/DC (even on the radio), check. Mary Wells (also on the radio), good to go.
Beethoven? Who the hell? "Moonlight Sonata???" Sure it was CD quality, but... Beethoven?
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>Now you can finally figure out the name of that song on the radio that you've been dying to know!
er, been doing that for years in UK with Shazzam Song Recognition thank you.
I just figure they'd outsource it to India and have Indians ID the songs. Just have each Indian listen to one genre of music, weighted by popularity and likelyhood to come up. You can probably attach 3 people to each ID session -- pop/rock, country, and hip-hop and if they can't ID it, pass it on to the next tier of IDers. It would probably still be cheaper than audio fingerprinting, considering how distorted the music must be.
Wanna bet they're making the record companies pay as well?
It's stuff like this (value added services?), Cingular's comics and instant messaging that are turning cell phones into more than just a handset you talk into.
I like it, but I fear that it'll get to the point where it's too hard to figure out how to access a given extra feature. Obviously they'll have to work on the UI to select from all these (marginally) useful features.
That said, I'm still just using my phone as a phone, so maybe they already have that solved, but I wouldn't know.
I love classical, but it's a real bitch figuring out the song names. Hell, most of the time it's something like: "Concerto No. 432, Op. 5341: Andante con margarine" or something equally lame. If this service could help me out with that, it would be worth a buck to me.
I've listened to brilliant classical works, and then the announcer comes on and says (in his heavily-tranquilized drawl) a bunch of words I've never freaking heard before. No doubt it's the name of some obscure foreign composer and the foreign conductor and the foreign symphony that played the tune, which has a name derived from latin. Great. That fucking helps me a bunch.
Oh, and that's another thing; the songs can go on forever. If he plays 3 or 4 movements it can easily be a half hour. Don't get me wrong; I love the station (no commercials!), and I love classical music, but can this service really tell the difference between Handel and Mozart? And for that matter, can it tell me which movement, and who is conducting? Please excuse my skepticism, but I seriously fucking doubt it. The idea is great, and it's useful to me since my tastes range from pop to ultra-obscure, but does it work?
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What if you're listening to songs in a foreign language? or Opera? I doubt the service can identify them properly right now, but I once spent hours trying to identify Pagliacci's "Vesti La Giubba".
Every time I try to ID this one song, it fails.
I can remember what its called, just that its by a guy named John Cage - and is about 4 and a half minutes long...
has had this functionality since it comes out. You can press a button on it, and it will record a 30 second clip from the radio, line in, or mic. The next time you sync with your organization utility on your PC, it copies the 30 second clip over and uses a technology like this to identify the clip. It works pretty well, too.
I wonder if AT&T have licenced technology from shazam. More about their technology here.
Maybe so, but it's been available here in the UK for about a year or 18 months now. Dial 2580 (conveniently, the middle column of numbers on most mobile keypads), hold phone to speaker, and it identifies the music. I've used it even in nightclubs etc., and it's pretty much spot on.
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