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SGI Sells Alias Subsidiary to Accel-KKR

dmehus writes "SGI on Thursday announced it has agreed to sell its Alias subsidiary for $57.5 million in cash to Accel-KKR. Interestingly enough, Accel-KKR owns GroceryWorks, which powers and provides the online version of Safeway. After transaction costs and other items, SGI said it expects net proceeds from the sale come in line at $50 million. Slashdot covered this story in February, saying that SGI was rumoured to be in talks with an unnamed private equity firm, but now it is confirmed."

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  1. $57.5? by matticus · · Score: 3, Funny

    "SGI on Thursday announced it has agreed to sell its Alias subsidiary for $57.5 in cash to Accel-KKR."

    I'll pay $58!!

    1. Re:$57.5? by CdBee · · Score: 2, Funny

      ..but they expect net proceeds of $50m

      As an accountant, I'd be wary of these guys

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    2. Re:$57.5? by matticus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now they fixed the story. Now my joke just seems obscurely incorrect.

  2. Interesting combination by 53cur!ty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Blah, blah blah.

    Accel-KKR also owns globalCoal and Savista just another shark trying to get a corner on the market so they can control it. I am interested where globalCoal fits into the big picture though...

    Look, see, understand

  3. They outsource as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Troll

    They will probably sell a lot more of the non essential business units as they have done with Cray and Alias Wavefront. They have even resorted to the ever so sleazy practice of exporting jobs to India.

    It is said a fox will knaw off its own leg to escape from a trap. We can see the same is true of two bit companies with outdated technology.

  4. Open Maya? by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would like to see Maya at Sourceforge. THAT would be a news for nerds and stuff that matters.

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    1. Re:Open Maya? by symbolic · · Score: 2, Insightful


      I don't have a problem with the C++ part, but I do have a problem with the implementation - it seems like the interface was designed around the programming, rather than the other way around. No where else have I see a "bend" function, and a "bender" object. This duality permeates much of the functionality, and I just can't seem to figure out why the distinction is even necessary.

  5. Slightly OT... by ksdd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...but damn, I do love seeing that old-school Silicon Graphics logo /. uses for the increasingly rare SGI post. Whatever mojo SGI had left was certainly gone after they went with that Comic Sans-looking text logo...

  6. Good move... by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SGI doesn't have any other consumer products, and what the Maya product needs now is marketing. There's really not too many other things they can do to develop the product left... it's a matter of sales more than development.

    1. Re:Good move... by quantax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      " There's really not too many other things they can do to develop the product left... it's a matter of sales more than development."

      You've obvously haven't worked with Maya too much as thats a rather ridiculous statement given the following:

      1. Maya cannot export or import animations in any really useful way. I myself have programmed as a result, my own importers and exporters for the program.

      2. Maya's ability to import skin weighting is more or less broken.

      3. MEL, maya's built-in scripting language doesn't support multi-dimensional arrays (it does, but theyre weak), and has only a couple data functions for arrays and strings.

      4. Certain rendering functions such as 3D blur are buggy.

      5. Polygon modelling tools only recently gained the ability to split parallel polygons, still needs a couple more functions.

      6. MEL UI scripting powerful, but would be nice if we could use XML as well.

      I could go on, and this is ONLY what I know, this hasnt even touched on any particle or dynamics issues, which have their own complexities. Don't get me wrong, I love Maya and enjoy working in it, but would not for a second say "Alias should stop developing Maya". No, the moment Alias even insinuated they were going to mostly stop development on Maya, you'd see many animators switch to Softimage or other 3D packages. And also, Maya enjoys a larger install-base amongst individual animators than does Softimage, so they don't need marketing that bad, especially marketing at the sacrifice of development.

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  7. Mean while... by 53cur!ty · · Score: 2

    The Oakland tribute reports that a Billionaire increases Safeway stake. Accel-KKR owns GroceryWorks which is Safeway, Inc. exclusive online shopping provider.

    Answers and more...

    1. Re:Mean while... by dthree · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can a fully-3D online Safeway store with advanced texture mapping, particle physics and inverse-kinematics be far off?

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  8. Net proceeds by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Funny
    So is the $7.5 million legal fees?

    IANAL but sometimes I wish I was.

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  9. What is left at SGI? by becker · · Score: 3, Informative

    A company in the position of SGI needs press releases to keep saying "I'm still here". A large percentage of the press releases were about Maya and Alias.

  10. Whats the future of SGI now? by Viol8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this a futile attempt at selling off the family silver in an effort to keep their failing business solvent or is it some shrewd move to raise cash for more profitable enterprises?
    Is SGI a lost cause or is there life in it yet?

  11. Showing a loss because of 3DS Max and cheap VPUs by Slashdot+Hivemind · · Score: 2, Informative

    Increases in computer power and wide availability of previously obscure and expensive software has led to big problems for CGI companies. Expect massive losses to be posted by ILM later this year

  12. Also .... by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Oakland tribute reports that a Billionaire increases Safeway stake. Accel-KKR owns GroceryWorks which is Safeway, Inc. exclusive online shopping provider.

    Not only that, but KKR (not Accel-KKR) used to own Safeway. This was a few years back. They purchased it cheap, held on to it for a while, and made an absolute killing when they sold it. KKR are no fools (RJR notwithstanding).

  13. Re:Why are there so few comments on this thread? by TheDigitalRaven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's good for SGI. They're in a position of a) needing money -- and $50m is nothing to be sneezed at, and b) needing publicity. This gives them a way to show the business world that they are still alive (even if they are selling their own organs to remain so) in the hopes that other companies may look at what SGI are working on and make an offer for some of it. If that happens, SGI gets more revenue, and slims down it's business to the point where it can focus on key projects to increase its revenue stream.

    I am not any kind of business analyst, I just play one on the internet.

  14. Why is this company buying Alias? by ScottGant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean, I could see a FX company buying it...but an investment firm that handles grocery technology and coal services?

    I'm sorry, but it brings to mind that back in the 70's when AMF bought Harley-Davidson...and look at THAT fiasco.

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    1. Re:Why is this company buying Alias? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe they want to use Maya to make it look like there are vast hordes of customers in their client's grocery stores?

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  15. Shame, by xirtam_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had almost expected Apple to buy the rights to Alias. The Mac OS X version rocks, and they've got billions in the bank, $50m would have been pocket change. It could have complemented Shake and Logic, bring 3D into their professional tools. And then we could have looked forward to iModel, or whatever, as the low end consumer version.

    Ah well, wasn't to be.

    1. Re:Shame, by rampant+mac · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "And then we could have looked forward to iModel, or whatever, as the low end consumer version."

      That's sort of pushing it, don't you think? I mean, the applications in the iLife suite are consumer applications that "most" consumers actually use.

      Digital camera? Hell, my parents owned one before I finally broke down and purchased mine. iPhoto works great for me.

      Digital camcorder? I don't have one, but someday. iMovie would fit the niche perfectly.

      Music? iTunes works like a charm (so much, in fact, that I couldn't see using anything else!).

      iDVD is there to tie each of those separate applications into media that can easily be shared with friends and family.

      GarageBand is really nice, but lacking features for anyone beyond intermediate musical talent. If there was a teenager in the house, it would probably be the most used application, though.

      But, "iModel?" Where would that really fit into the digital hub? I honestly don't know too many people interested in 3D modeling on a consumer level.

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    2. Re:Shame, by quantax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not really by my count. Look at your current highend Macs, the G5's; these systems do not come with serious 3D cards, they come with mid-end gamer cards. Let me ask you, how are you supposed to do serious 3D animation work on a Radeon 9800 Pro? Have you ever tried? It isn't very productive.

      If Mac is serious about the 3D market, (and it honestly hasn't demonstrated it is, atleast for professional level work), they will start offering highend cards to their customers, cards such as the Nvidia Quadro FX 1100. Until it offers such cards, they are merely talking out their ass about 3D and Macs.

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  16. The original SGI/Alias/Wavefront deal by vasqzr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SGI paid $500 million to buy them in the first place. Boy, how times have changed.

    NEW YORK, Feb. 7 / -- Silicon Graphics, Inc. (NYSE: SGI), Alias Research, Inc.
    (Nasdaq-NNM:ADDDF), and Wavefront Technologies, Inc. (Nasdaq: WAVE) today
    announced that they have entered into definitivemerger agreements. The
    combined organizations bolster Silicon Graphics' commitment to the
    entertainment andcreative design markets, and allow the company to architect
    the foundation necessary for software partners andcustomers to build the
    digital studio of the 21st Century.

    As a result of the mergers, Silicon Graphics will form a wholly owned,
    independent software subsidiary that will focus on developing the world's most
    advanced tools for the creation of digital content. Rob Burgess,
    currentlypresident and CEO of Alias, will become president of the new company,
    and Mike Noling, currently president andCEO of Wavefront, will report to
    Burgess as vice president of operations. Martin Plaehn, currently
    Wavefront'sexecutive vice president of corporate and product development, will
    also report to Burgess to lead the technical team.

    Under terms of the agreements, which were approved by the boards of directors
    of the respective companies, Alias stockholders will receive the equivalent of
    0.90 shares of Silicon Graphics' common stock for each share of Aliascommon
    stock owned. Wavefront stockholders will receive 0.49 shares of Silicon
    Graphics' common stock for eachshare of Wavefront common stock owned. The
    closing prices for Silicon Graphics, Alias and Wavefront commonstock on Fr
    iday, February 3, 1995, the last trading day prior to the board meetings to
    approve the transaction, were$31.25, $20.875 and $12.625, respectively. The
    shares to be issued by Silicon Graphics have a current market valueof
    approximately $500 million.

    1. Re:The original SGI/Alias/Wavefront deal by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Toronto Star reported this as well:
      (BUSINESS, Wednesday, February 8, 1995, p.B1)

      As part of a three-company merger, Silicon Graphics Inc. of Mountain View, Calif., is expected to pay the equivalent of about $500 million (Canadian) in shares for Toronto-based Alias when the deal closes in June.

      Silicon Graphics said it would pay for Alias and Wavefront with shares. The Wavefront purchase price is estimated at about $150 million (U.S.).

      Alias stockholders will receive the equivalent of 0.90 of a Silicon Graphics share for every share of Alias stock. Wavefront shareholders will get 0.49 of a share, the announcement added.

      The new subsidiary will team with Silicon Studio, a unit formed last year by Silicon Graphics to focus on the entertainment market and to develop software tools.

      The software will be used by film makers, game developers and others in the entertainment industry to create interactive titles.

      Analysts were largely supportive.

      "It's a marriage made in heaven," said Charles Finnie, of Volpe Welty & Co.

  17. Lost a ton on Cray too by peter303 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I recall Cray be purchased for hundreds of millions then sold [ to Tera ] for tens of millions.

  18. Oh Oh... by MKalus · · Score: 3, Informative

    If it is the same KKR as in this article in "Der Spiegel" this might not bode well.

    It seems all KKR is known for is in gutting companies and selling the rest for a profit.

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    1. Re:Oh Oh... by jratcliffe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup, this is the KKR, the "Original Bad Boy" of the private equity world. Remember that book, Barbarians at the Gate, about the leveraged buyout of RJR Nabisco? KKR were the "barbarians."

  19. Those Guys are Still Around? by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I thought they went out of business years ago. What can you say about them really? They used to be cutting edge back in the day. I don't see a bright future for many of the old school workstation manufacturers. Their business models have been eviscerated and most of them don't seem to have any idea of how to re-invent themselves in this era. I'm really surprised most of them have managed to hang around this long.

    Maybe if the survivors took a step back and said "Yeah being clever engineers is good and all, but what do our customers need?" Find something Wintel can't or isn't providing right now and figure out how to bring that to the market and a reasonable price.

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    1. Re:Those Guys are Still Around? by telemonster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Price might be the issue. SGI prices their gear pretty much parallel to the Sun equivilent. Whatever a Sun V880 costs with 8 CPUs is probably what you will pay for an Origin whatever with 8 CPUs (whatever the current comparable product is).

      I can only guess SGI screwed up marketing. SGI should still be in competition to Sun, but instead they have kind of faded. There are still certain industries that rely on their hardware, but that appears to be shrinking. Having worked with Power Series to Origin 3800s and Sparcstation 1's to Sun V880s, I think SGI equipment is superior to Sun. Solaris has come further (bigger user base) than IRIX. The lack of Oracle and other big business apps on SGI hardware hurts them. There was some sort of fight between Oracle and SGI I believe.

      Oracle was going to release a scalable database appliance based on the SGI Origin 300, from what I heard. The unit would be expandable by bricks. 4 CPUS now, add a router and 16 more later. During this time Oracle lived on IRIX, and from what I heard Oracle was faster on IRIX/SGI than Solaris/Sun... politics kicked in, Oracle yanked support for IRIX, and the damage is done. Without the business apps, you loose quite a bit of market share.

      SGI still owns it in the video world. I'm not talking Final Cut Pro, but huge Discreet apps that require insane pipes for uncompressed HD video. Big SGIs can move insane amounts of data.

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  20. Re:Why are there so few comments on this thread? by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's good for SGI - they need the money.

    Although it's rather sad for anyone who remembers the mid 1990's when the game indstry was starting to move into 3D and SGI was still growing in every direction; Microsoft bought up SoftImage in order to push Windows NT into the workstation market, SGI responded by buying up Alias and Wavefront for millions of dollars in shares.

    At that time, SGI had a near monopoly on 3D development systems, but management weren't willing to develop competitive PC-priced desktop systems (An Indy cost around $10,000), even though their engineers could see this happening (SGI's engineers designed Nintendo's Ultra-64).

    Selling Alias|Wavefront really marks the end of that era.

  21. Wasn't so long ago.... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Funny

    That that was the price of a single seat license for Wavefront.

  22. What does it mean for Alias? by Genjurosan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In my opinion, I fear that this isn't very good news for the people at Alias; however, it doesn't surprise me. When the product dropped in price, the marketing costs soared in an attempt to reach a larger market. Even last year, Alias must have flown 50% of their staff to SD for SIGGRAPH, and they still held, and sponsored, ridiculous parties, including a private party with 'Rocket From The Crypt' (damn good show). Has anyone seen the Alias office in downtown Toronto? Yes, stainless steel, custom glass, pool tables, and hundreds of fancy display devices cost a LOT of money. The senior leadership at Alias always acted like SGI was the plague.. eventually, your master will write you off when you don't show them any respect. You can read KKRs site to tell that they are not interested in Maya or Studio, they are interested in money. Plain and simple. All this is simply speculation of course......time will tell the real outcome of this development.

    1. Re:What does it mean for Alias? by ameline · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hmmm -- I work here at Alias (and I'm not an authorized spokesperson for them, so this post contains *my* opinions). There's not much stainless steel -- it's mostly plain old industrial steel -- welded. It's a 110 year old brick building that, as far as I'm aware, was renovated by the owners (at their expense) to our specifications, some 6 or so years ago, -- in exchange for this a long term lease is in place.

      50% went to siggraph? Maybe 5% -- probably not even that many.

      Great party -- yes, I admit we know how to throw a good party. We used to party more, but the average age here has been increasing over the years -- that has an impact on how much you drink and party like a madman.

      Pool tables, plural? no -- 1 pool table that's 10 years old -- it was here before SGI bought Alias.

      Hundreds of fancy display devices? Where? Do you mean the standard 19" monitors you'll see at any tech company? Yes there are hundreds of those.

      Is Alias a fun place to work? Yes it is -- I get to work on cool software with some really sharp people.

      I don't know about marketing costs and profit margins on Maya since the price reduction -- but my understanding is that since then we're selling more licences and making more money off the product, while squeezing marketshare from the competition. Seems like a smart move to me.

      As for Accel-KKR being interested in money -- of course they are -- so was SGI -- any owner of a company like this would be primarily interested in money. I don't mean to disillusion all you naieve slashdotters, but most companies are in it for the money -- Studio, Maya and our other products are a means to an end, that end being money. And our customers buy those products because they (correctly IMHO) believe that they will help them make money -- money money money, the root of all evil -- bring it on -- there, that should unbalance more than a few out there :-)

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  23. Re:Why are there so few comments on this thread? by demachina · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Also about this time SGI's ground breaking new system was the O2. It was really good at some niche video functions, including video textures. Unfortunately it had truly dismal memory bandwidth to the CPU, I guess they just forgot that this is one of the most basic building blocks of a computer with good performance. It was trailing just about everything on SPEC benchmarks before it even released(and it was late).

    They sold a bunch of them to people who wanted cheap SGI's, like ILM. I speculate to this day that the O2 was a key contributor to ILM making so many bad movies during the era they relied on those steaming piles. They were just crushingly slow and I imagine any sucked the creativity out of any artist that had to use one, especially after they saw Maya running on a $2,000 PC or a Mac.

    SGI does some really interesting niche technology but they have never had a CPU strategy that worked in any sustained way and they completely lost it in graphics when they kept trying to build multiboard graphics monstrosities while GLINT came out with the first graphics chip, followed by 3DFX, Nvidia and ATI. Carver Mead outlined a long time ago how to design electronics and that was to put everything on a CMOS chip. SGI didn't learn that lesson for some reason so all their graphics systems were big, bulky, somewhat unreliable and most importantly way to expensive to manufacture versus a mass produced GPU.

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  24. Re:No Alias for SGI hardware by keilun · · Score: 3, Informative

    We didn't release a Maya PLE version for IRIX because of the low demand - the cost to make an IRIX version of PLE was too costly. However, we still ship commercial versions on IRIX.

  25. Re:MIPS by Performer+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative

    They didn't sell MIPS to any entity. The spun it off as an independent company and gave the SGI stock holders MIPS shares in proportion to their SGI stock holdings. Basically they gave MIPS to SGI stock holders as an independent company.

  26. Re:No Alias for SGI hardware by Mad+Cheese+Disease · · Score: 2, Informative

    SideFX is a smaller company than Alias and they have demo versions (which are significantly less restrictive than maya ple) of Houdini for both IRIX and Solaris.

  27. Re:The price is very low by voodoo1man · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Alias/Wavefront's Maya package is the leading product in the high-end animation industry today, having displaced Softimage.
    And how large is that market really? I was under the impression that the US 3d animation industry has largely been in decline for the past four years (at least it seems that way from the layoffs and closings of the large studios, and things I've heard and read).
    Arguably, it's SGI's most successful business.
    I've heard that it's SGI's most publicly visible business, but that SGI makes most of their money from selling computers to the government.
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  28. Why didn't Apple buy them? by theolein · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That amount of cash would have been peanuts for Apple and Apple would finally have something in the 3D segment of the market.