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First Ten Programs on New Install?

reddigitaldragon asks: "Some people re-install once a year, but if you're anything like me your machine is formatted at least once a month. After the OS is in, then come the favorite/must have/most used programs to install. My first installations for Windows (I use it; get over it): Trillian, Winrar, Firefox, Winamp, SmartFTP, Azureus, NMap, GKrellM, PowerDVD. What are your First 10 installed programs?" What are the first 10 programs you would install on a Windows machine? How about for a Unix machine?

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  1. My First 10... by inertia187 · · Score: 5, Funny
    On Windows (XP), my first ten are as follows:
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB810217
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB820291
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB821253
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB821557
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB822603
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB823182
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB823559
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB823980
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB824105
    • Windows XP Hotfix - KB824141
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    1. Re:My First 10... by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot the very first program that is installed automagically: Win32Blaster. :-)

    2. Re:My First 10... by Soko · · Score: 5, Informative

      Myself, I prefer to roll those into my install CD via slipstreaming. (Google for "XP slipstream hotfix" for more) That way, I get as much protection as possible OOTB.

      Slip-streaming isn't possible though with those confounded restore CDs from OEMs though. Grrrr....

      Soko

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    3. Re:My First 10... by nocomment · · Score: 4, Funny

      klez, sobig, blaster, traxg, beagle, gator, savenow, mydoom, hotbar, and that's as far as I get before I have to format and install unix!

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    4. Re:My First 10... by Russellkhan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Who in their right mind (excluding users) would think of installing software without installing ALL the patches for the OS they are using..."

      Not sure, maybe the same person who ends up having to format and reinstall his OS at least once a month? (Not saying poster was in his right mind...)

      Seriously though, a note to reddigitaldragon:
      If you know you're gonna reinstall and you know what you're gonna put on the system after installing, you really should invest in a copy of Ghost (or DriveImage, but I haven't worked with that, so I can't personally vouch for its functionality). It'll save you several hours each month. Do your install once, install your progs, defrag (for good measure) make a Ghost image, burn it to CD along with ghost.exe and next time the whole process will take you ~10 minutes.

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    5. Re:My First 10... by pnutjam · · Score: 5, Informative

      I user partimage from the Linux Rescue CD, you can get it here. Works like a charm and it's free.

    6. Re:My First 10... by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "invest in a copy of Ghost "

      Or, just "cp /dev/hda /dev/hdc".

      And yes, I have heard about 'dd'. cp works just fine

    7. Re:My First 10... by skilef · · Score: 5, Interesting

      well you're right, windows does require a lot of tweaking before I even get around to installing apps...

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    8. Re:My First 10... by hummassa · · Score: 4, Informative

      google for slipstream.
      Now, serious: 7-zip is better and is Free Software.
      I always install Mozilla and the PuTTY family.
      Cygwin if I think I will use the machine a lot.
      VIM !!!

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    9. Re:My First 10... by CatKnight · · Score: 5, Informative

      How about the first 10 things you UNinstall from a fresh WinXP install?

      1) Drive Indexing Service
      2) System Restore Service
      3) MSN Explorer
      4) MSN Messenger
      5) Games
      6) ISP Services (who uses prodigy anymore anyway?)
      7) Outlook Express
      8) Internet Explorer
      9) QoS Packet Scheduler Service (I never figured out what this even does...)
      10) Extra services (like WMP auto DRM retrieval, MP3 player auto detector, etc)

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    10. Re:My First 10... by semifamous · · Score: 5, Informative

      I use a thing I found over at Neowin.net that some of the guys have put together.

      Autopatcher contains all of the current hotfixes and lets you change some other settings. It's great! Check it out if you have to reinstall Windows in the near future... One of the best parts for people who set up multiple puters is the ability to set all of your options as the Default settings before you burn the CD so that you don't have to check and uncheck all of your options on each computer.

      So that's number 1 in my list of the first 10 things I install.

      Then:

      Firefox
      Winamp
      Miranda
      UltraVNC
      StrokeIt (because Mouse Gestures are too cool to be limited to Internet Browsing.)
      Filezilla
      OpenOffice.org
      Media Player Classic
      Slowview

    11. Re:My First 10... by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Not sure, maybe the same person who ends up having to format and reinstall his OS at least once a month?"

      My thinking exactly...why would anyone need to re-install their OS monthly???


      Here's why. I don't want to spent $150 on a copy of windoze XP. But I prefer it over my copy of 95/98 because it's easy to install, it's stable, and has true multitasking capabilities. Windows is, has been, and probably always will be the PC gamers OS(As there is still no OS answer for DirectX on Linux).

      Here's where the 1 month re-format comes in:

      XP allows a 30-day "grace period" before you need to register online. So what I do is install my fathers copy of WinXP, use it for 30 days...then I have to go through my monthly ritual of completely reformatting the HD and then reinstalling XP. It sucks, but this is the world of the broke PC gamer today.

      Now you know.

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    12. Re:My First 10... by jonfelder · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why don't you just circumvent the activation? A bit of google searching should take care of getting the details. It's not difficult to do, and you're already pirating it anyway. You might as well avoid having to reinstall every 30 days.

    13. Re:My First 10... by jonfelder · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why are you relying on antivirus products to stop the worm?

      Why don't you enable the built in firewall before putting the machine online?

      If you don't like that, download a copy of zonealarm, stick it on removable media and install it before putting the machine online.

    14. Re:My First 10... by aldousd666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      two things here. One: the bzipped image is a file, just as 'easy to work with' as a .gho file, and Two: Ghost doesn't make disk images, it only copies files into that monolithic .gho. That's actually one of the primary differences between ghost and dd -- you don't get anything but allocated files with ghost, and for this reason ghost only supports certain filesystem types (though indeed they get most of the big ones, ntfs, fat, fat32, and ext2) but dd doesn't care what it's copying -- filesystem or not -- "Them's all just bits" God forbid that you would try to use a ghost image for forensic analysis, but dd, that's the good stuff for that. If you just want a backup of your working hard drive, ghost or a like alternative 'file' imaging program is probably what you're looking for. If you want the story that the unused portion of a hard drive can tell you, then dd it. Also, to my knowledge, bzip2 doesn't only 'not know enough about ntfs' it simply compresses an input data stream to an output datastream, so it's not supposed to 'know enough about' any filesystem at all, it doesn't know about ext2 or 3 or ReiserFS either...

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    15. Re:My First 10... by lga · · Score: 4, Informative

      You need to get yourself a copy of Windows XP 120 day evaluation edition. It's free to order from the website and you can activate it and update it online as it's a legitimate version with its own product key. It is licensed for 10 computers, so I figure I can install it 10 times in a row on the same computer instead!

      If you're in the UK you can order just about every microsoft product from free from this page. I can't find the US link, but search for windows xp evaluation edition.

      While you're there, order yourself a security update CD, it saves a hell of a lot of downloading. (I don't know why MS isn't forced to post these to every windows user.)

    16. Re:My First 10... by omicronish · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about the first 10 things you UNinstall from a fresh WinXP install?

      2) System Restore Service

      I used to wonder what System Restore does, but apparently it saves backups of your registry on your hard drive when various things happen, such as installing a hotfix or Windows Installer package. This has saved me a couple times when the registry got corrupted; a simple boot into recovery mode and copying over the HKLM registry file fixed things (of course, the problem of corruption still remains). Keep that in mind when you disable System Restore.

    17. Re:My First 10... by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a huge index of all your files designed to help you search them faster, how often do you need find? Can you wait an extra 15 seconds or is it worth a couple of hundred meg of space on your disk?

    18. Re:My First 10... by Reteo+Varala · · Score: 5, Informative

      cp? *shrug* dd? Meh.

      cat's my tool of choice.

      cat /dev/hda | bzip2 > Image.bz2

      Image-based Backup and compression, without the hefty expense. Add in gpg to that chain, and it's encrypted, too.

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      Okay, back on-topic.

      1: OpenOffice.org
      http://www.openoffice.org

      2: Winamp
      http://www.winamp.com

      3: Mozilla
      http://www.mozilla.org

      4: SpywareBlaster and SpywareGuard
      http://www.javacoolsoftware.com

      5: Spybot Search & Destroy
      http://www.safer-networking.org

      6: Trillian
      http://www.trillian.cc

      7: 7-Zip
      http://www.7-zip.org

      8: Really Slick Screensavers
      http://www.reallyslick.com

      9: X-Setup
      http://www.xteq.com

      10: BigFix
      http://www.bigfix.com

      I know number 4 is two proggies, but I figure that they're closely related enough to be considered one solution.

  2. Wimp. by monstroyer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Real men don't install programs, they write them.

    -1 : TACO! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?

  3. Gator! by strictnein · · Score: 4, Funny

    Easy.... all of those wonderful Claria (Gator) products!

    eWallet - Give you personal info to a spyware maker!
    Dashbar - I don't know what it does, but it must dash!
    WeatherScope - I've got to know my weather!
    PrecisionTime - I've got to know exactly what time it is.
    DateManager - How else do I know date it is?
    WebSecureAlert - Who else to trust your security to than a spyware maker?

    and then...

    AOL 9.0!
    Internet Explorer 6.01
    Windows Media Player 9.0 - DRM Special Edition
    Pr0n

    1. Re:Gator! by prockcore · · Score: 5, Funny

      What a waste, you can install *all* of those things at once just by installing Kazaa Media Desktop.

  4. forget winrar by WhiteDragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I use 7-zip, it is free (speech and beer) and reads and writes most archive formats, including zip, rar, tar, tgz, etc.

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    1. Re:forget winrar by notasheep · · Score: 5, Informative
      Thanks for the 404 link, "idiot boy". :) Here's a link that isn't broken: link that works

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  5. Six...Seven...Eight... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    My first ten for Windows (I use it; get over it):
    1. Trillian,
    2. Winrar,
    3. Firefox,
    4. Winamp,
    5. SmartFTP,
    6. Azureus,
    7. NMap,
    8. GKrellM,
    9. PowerDVD.

    Might I suggest adding a calculator to round out that list?

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  6. linux/openbsd/freebsd by quelrods · · Score: 4, Informative

    bash less enlightenment wget vim screen nmap phoenix/firebird/firefox Eterm xmms

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  7. Bonzi Buddy by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bonzi Buddy's pretty high on my list; not only that, I don't even have to ask to install it! Friendly lil thing ends up there on its own.

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  8. A list by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative
    Heres my list:
    • Putty - A free (GPL) SSH terminal emulator
    • Winzip - Yeah, you know what this is
    • VLC - Free media player
    • OpenOffice.org - I should stop doing these descriptions, its not as if youve heard of these things before!
    • GIMP for windows - Yup, the infernal/eternal image editor
    • Editplus - Possibly the best editor ive found, not free im afraid, costs around $25
    • Sharpdevelop - Free (GPL) .net IDE, requires the .net framework and SDK
    • Bloodshed Dev-C++ - Excellent free (GPL) C and C++ IDE, using the Windows GCC port
    • Thunderbird - Mail client
    • Firefox - Web browser
    • Adobe Acrobat Reader - PDF Reader
    • PDFcreator - GPL PDF print driver for windows
    • MessengerPro (Clickatell) - Non free SMS sender for windows, company does good bulk buy sms rates, i buy 500 at a time for less than $5
    • Lavasoft Adaware and Spybot - For the essentials in life
    • Topstyle - Free version of the excellent CSS editor for webdevelopment, if anyone knows a good free alternative, im open to suggestions :)
    • SmartFTP - Great free for personal use FTP client, not found a better one yet!
    • MySQL-Front - Old version of the MySQL windows front end, much much better than the new one you pay for. Source isnt open and the old developer discontinued development, possibly one of the best advertisements for why OSS is good :(

    Thats about it, everything I install after a reimage of my machines!! Other things get tagged on, but those are the core!

    If anyone has suggestions for alternatives, im open. But they have to be good! Im currently looking for a new .net IDE as sharpdevelop has a few bugs, and since its written in c#, i cant help fix em :(

    As for UNIX, I use OpenBSD so its got a pretty sane base install. I usually drag in a few custom admin scripts ive developed over the years, and my .profile for ksh, but thats about it. The box then gets configured for its custom job.

    1. Re:A list by ichthus · · Score: 5, Informative

      SmartFTP - Great free for personal use FTP client, not found a better one yet!

      I haven't tried SmartFTP, so maybe it's better, but I really like FileZilla. It does sftp too - great for crypto xfers.

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  9. Just one by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 5, Funny

    Emacs. Hell, that is ten programs. And it is as big as one hundred.

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    1. Re:Just one by KFK2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      He/she asked what 10 programs you install after installing your OS.. not what OS you install..

  10. First thing to install on a Windows machine... by Torqued · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linux!

  11. TweakUI by Paladine97 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    TweakUI is the first thing I install. I can't stand the default Windows Explorer setup.

  12. My choices by avij · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think you missed Windows security fixes, Adobe Acrobat and WinSCP.

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    1. Re:My choices by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 4, Informative

      After Windows and Drivers, and before it touches the network:

      1) Anit-Virus
      2) AdAware
      3) Firewall (if necessary... if it's for home, it's behind 2 already)
      4) SP xx (From a CD)
      5) Security Updates (From CD)
      6) Mozilla/Firefox/etc. (From CD)
      7) Zip/RAR Proggie of the week (From the CD)
      8) The Windows CAB files
      9) From here on it depends on the purpose of the build, but the machine can now join my network

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  13. Most important of all on Windoze Boxen... by SnowDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if AVG/Mcafee/FProt/Norton Antivirus was among those 10, you wouldn't need to reinstall every month?

    Updated drivers followed by Antivirus and Mozilla is what goes on my Windoze boxen first.

    1. Re:Most important of all on Windoze Boxen... by Kenja · · Score: 4, Informative

      Maybe if you stop laucnhing all those "hotgirlz.jpg.exe" attachments and downloading warez you wouldn't need to install an antivirus program right away? Beleve it or not, but a virus will not just sneak into your system. It has to be put there.

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  14. Mine? by grub · · Score: 5, Informative


    Well, I use my PC as a game box with some browsing only (with SSH if I need to access one of the unixish machines) so here's my stuff:

    10 : Spybot Search & Destroy (Excellent spyware killer)
    9 : Spyware Blaster (Recommended by Spybot author to run concurrently)
    8 : Some form of browser.
    7 : PuTTY (SSH client w/ tunnelling)
    6 : Thief (awesome game)
    5 : Thief 2 (more Thief!)
    4 : Darkloader (allows one to run custom fan missions in the Thief games)
    3 : System Shock 2 (creepy sci-fi rp/fps)
    2 : For those days I feel like a slug-fest? Doomsday and the ol' Doom games. (adds real 3D and all the video card eye candy to Doom/Heretic/etc. A MUST HAVE!)
    1 : Half Life You know it! (still has one of the best stories of any game around)

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  15. Quick Everyone! He uses Windows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the long honored tradition of slashbots, we must all mark him as foe and shame him for using an OS different from our own. For shame! For shame! How darest thou useth Windows, and how darest the Editors post a story that proclaims that windows is a good OS!!! Mark him as foe, mark him as foe I say!

    For those who are wondering, I use Linux, but have many friends who use windows because, quite frankly, they have no business using Linux. All they do is play games. Windows is great for certain uses, just not any of my uses... uh, I mean, FOR SHAME!

    1. Re:Quick Everyone! He uses Windows! by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In the long honored tradition of slashbots, we must all mark him as foe and shame him for using an OS different from our own. For shame! For shame! How darest thou useth Windows, and how darest the Editors post a story that proclaims that windows is a good OS!!! Mark him as foe, mark him as foe I say!


      This is too good to be true. Not only are we asked to not make fun of a windows user, but one who re-installs his OS every month!

      What I want to know is *why* he reinstalls his OS every month. As much as I like to make fun of windows, there's no way it should degrade this fast (or at all with proper care and feeding).

      So, fess up, what *are* you doing wrong?

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  16. For me.. by hookedup · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I _race_ furiously to download and get a firewall installed, then do the windows updates. I've had machines be comprimised while downloading the firewall for the first time, damn those subnet scanning kids move fast :)

    1. Re:For me.. by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Informative

      Might I suggest that you burn a firewall program onto a CD? Then the next time you reload your machine, you can install the firewall and *then* connect to the Internet.

  17. The OpenCD by Siener · · Score: 4, Informative

    When installing a Windows PC, it's a good idea to have The OpenCD handy. It includes (among other things) CDEx, Mozilla, GIMP, PuTTY, TightVNC and WinPT.

  18. Don't reformat: use Knoppix/Partimage/NFS by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do yourself a favor: next clean install, apply XP-SP1, then Clean=(Delete LocalSettings\Temp, Windows\Temp, Defrag) & boot Knoppix and backup your partition with Partimage (to a network location mounted with NFS), if needed.

    Then apply all Windows Updates, and image again. Then install your drivers, and "core apps" (be very conservative), and tweak your profile a little, and image again.

    Then restore one of these three images as needed, and update as needed. Install your games on a separate partition.

    It gets tricky if you actually use your XP partition for real work (MSOffice, VStudio) instead of just for video editing and games and use the much superior Debian Sid for web browsing, email, and programming. Unlike games, its hard to put apps on a separate partition and simply "install" them with a .reg file or something. Imaging with 3 or 4 gigs of apps to back up takes a long time and gets to be a pain in the ass.

  19. I don't reinstall, I update by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have a hard drive image (Ghost, but anything would work about as well) that I revert to every few months. It has all my essentials, configuration, and such. Windows is on its own partition, My Docs is mapped to D: partition, so the only thing I need to back up is Docs and Settings (I could map that to another partition too, but it's nice to have it be cleaned out as well).

    So now I just do my mini-backup, revert to ghost image, apply pending windows/app fixes and upgrades (with a text file on my desktop to keep track as I do them the first time), install any new "needed" software, clean up stuff etc, and then make me a fresh image of that for next time.

  20. Mac OS X by jared_hanson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, I decided to reformat my PowerBook's drive just for the experience. It wasn't at all necessary, as it is with Windows after a few months of use.

    Heres my list of programs installed since the reformat a month ago:
    LaunchBar

    Yep, thats the beauty of the Mac: a rock solid system that doesn't necessetate reformating, and a good suite of software preloaded.

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  21. That's funny, I don't install Gator... by plover · · Score: 5, Informative
    The first programs I install on my own box include these:

    I install Mozzie first, then I download and run Spybot Search and Destroy and run the cleanup/immunize functions, and then I install AVG. Nothing else is an "absolute" but I usually install them. (I don't install Visual Studio on other people's boxes, of course!)

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    1. Re:That's funny, I don't install Gator... by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 5, Informative

      Office & Design
      - OpenOffice.org
      - AbiWord
      - GIMP

      Internet & Communication
      - Mozilla
      - FileZilla
      - TightVNC
      - WinHTTrack
      - PuTTY

      Multimedia & Games
      - Audacity
      - CDex
      - Crack Attack!
      - Sokoban YASC
      - Celestia
      - Really Slick Screensavers

      Utilities & Other
      - 7-Zip
      - SciTE
      - WinPT
      - NetTime

      Source: TheOpenCD

    2. Re:That's funny, I don't install Gator... by dillkvast · · Score: 5, Funny

      • America's Army

      That was actually the first thing they installed when they rebooted Iraq.
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  22. On MacOS X by numbski · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fink
    Sendmail
    Bring Perl Current
    SpamAssassin and SpamAssassin Milter
    Microsoft Office (Yuck! Please get us an Aqua Native Open Office!)
    Mozilla Firefox
    RealMediaBurner (as close to Nero as you're going to get)
    BitTorrent
    MultiDesktop
    CarbonCopyCloner

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  23. Immediately followed by by devphil · · Score: 5, Interesting


    the Cygwin installer.

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  24. Once a month...? by NineNine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't this guy's time be better spent reading a "Computers for Dummies" book so he wouldn't have to re-install every month?

  25. Forget 7-Zip by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't like 7-Zip, there are some compatibility issues I've found with encrypted Zip files, and the user interface is really clunky.

    Instead, use the other free alternative, IZArc. It handles everything, plus 7-Zip, actually. The user interface is very clean and contains at least as many features as WinZip. Gets a full recommendation from me!

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  26. Textpad by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've long wished for WinBBEdit, but I've been quite happy Textpad user for years.

    A fine text editor!

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  27. Re:What? by ghostlibrary · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is proof that Windows is easier to install than Linux-- obviously, Linux users are too scared to reinstall their OS every month, whereas for Windows, it's a joy!

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  28. On windows? Here's the whole interoperability kit by rwa2 · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Cygwin - get the POSIX environment on!
    2. PuTTY - the only terminal I've found that handles colors and stuff right.
    3. TightVNC - get to some other computer
    4. OO.o
    5. vim - I'm not even a VI guy, but it's fast and has nice hooks into explorer and I'm too lazy to deal with registering TextPad or whatever. JEdit's also nice, but way too slow for casual use... I usually go straight to emacs for that kind of editing.
    6. Mozilla / Firefox / etc. - and the plugins:
    7. Winamp - get the groove on
    8. MPlayer - it handles just about all the codecs
    9. MultiDesk - usable multiple desktops for Windows... like getting that 10% productivity improvement for having dual monitors without having to pay 100% more in displays. If only it had a visual pager...
    10. Windows PowerToys - because every little option matters
    Usually hit windowsupdate several times first, of course.

    More on Linux and MacOS X later, I guess...

  29. Software firewall == BAD by grioghar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Black Ice is a ridiculous product with many security issues of its own. Do your own Googling.

    The best of the worst in software firewalls IMHO is Norton Internet Security. Good support, and if it hoses your TCP/IP stack (like most any software-based firewall has a tendency to do over time...), there's at least well documented support.

    If they're a dialup user, security patch the hell out of the box and be done with it. If they're broadband, figure out a way to put a hardware solution in there. Don't compromise the stability of the TCP/IP stack with software filtering. I don't know how many machines I've had to rebuild the stacks on because of shitty software-based firewalls for Windows.

    And, as always, YMMV.

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  30. Re:You forgot some essentials! by RazzleFrog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nobody in their right mind installs either of those crapware apps. Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative work great.

  31. What about the bottom 10? by gregarican · · Score: 4, Funny

    The least likely to apps/options to reinstall:

    1) Gator.

    2) Bonzi Buddy.

    3) Microsoft Bob.

    4) Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6 (the one that broke TCP/IP and led to the rush release of SP6a).

    5) Any recent RealPlayer release chock full of adware/spyware.

    6) Any release of Microsoft Outlook Express.

    7) Microsoft KB835742 Security Update (the recent one that causes random Win2K boxes to reboot to a BSOD or have 99% CPU utilization).

    8) The Microsoft Office "Clippy" option.

    9) Microsoft Outlook Preview Pane.

    10) Universal Plug n Play.

  32. Are there even 10? by Feztaa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any linux distro comes with so much stuff, I don't think there are even 10 things that I install after I'm done the OS install...

    I'll grab bittorrent (official client), firefox, thunderbird, and I think that's about it.

  33. After Os X install by seven5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Heres an Os X user's list

    • Transmit
    • SubEthaEdit
    • NetNewsWire Lite
    • Desktop Manager
    • Clipboard Sharing
    • iTerm
    • iKey
    • VLC
    • blank
    • blank

    That was actually hard. So much comes with Os X, that it REALLY is a great Os right out of the box. Anything else at the end of the list is just little apps that really aren't important. Also, i just don't format as much as i used to when i was on Windows, which was a little more conservative than the poster at about every 3 months.

  34. An OS X install by kitzilla · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Top 10 programs I load on OS X machines, no particular order:

    * Drag Thing: A highly addictive replacement for OS X's Dock. Really improves productivity.

    * MS Office: Open Office isn't ready for prime time on OS X. I'm not sure it will ever be ready for professionals who exchange complex documents, though it's great if you have a small shop and use OOo's default file format.

    * Toast 6: The most convenient disk duplication suite I have ever used.

    * Fink: There aren't many Linux programs I *must* have on OS X, but this will get 'em.

    * Photoshop: I have an older iBook with a small drive that gets GIMP instead.

    * Corel Graphics Suite: Gotta have it for layout. Now that Corel has abandoned Mac, however, I'll be moving to Adobe Creative Suite.

    * Thunderbird: I'd probably use Thunderbird fulltime if the Mac version were to be integrated with the OS X addressbook. But it's pleasant to play around with.

    * Mozilla Firefox: Safari is my default, but it's a very young browser. Firefox renders whatever Safari won't.

    * Starry Night: An entertaining and useful program for backyard astronomers. You needn't own a telescope to appreciate SN. Explore the universe from your armchair.

    * Updated iLife suite: I've become addicted to iTunes and use iPhoto to organize my personal snaps.

    --
    This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
  35. Comments + Links! by Famatra · · Score: 4, Informative
    Some links to your great suggestions, and some comments at the end :)

    • Putty - A free (GPL) SSH terminal emulator
    • Winzip - Yeah, you know what this is
    • VLC - Free media player
    • OpenOffice.org - I should stop doing these descriptions, its not as if youve heard of these things before!
    • GIMP for windows - Yup, the infernal/eternal image editor
    • Sharpdevelop - Free (GPL) .net IDE, requires the .net framework and SDK
    • Bloodshed Dev-C++ - Excellent free (GPL) C and C++ IDE, using the Windows GCC port
    • Thunderbird - Mail client
    • Firefox - Web browser
    • Adobe Acrobat Reader - PDF Reader
    • PDFcreator - GPL PDF print driver for windows
    • MessengerPro (Clickatell) - Non free SMS sender for windows, company does good bulk buy sms rates, i buy 500 at a time for less than $5
    • Lavasoft Adaware and Spybot SS - For the essentials in life
    • Topstyle - Free version of the excellent CSS editor for webdevelopment, if anyone knows a good free alternative, im open to suggestions :)
    • SmartFTP - Great free for personal use FTP client, not found a better one yet! (I have, Filezilla it is excellent AND fully GPL, none of this non free shit, bub. :-) )
    • MySQL-Front - Old version of the MySQL windows front end, much much better than the new one you pay for. Source isnt open and the old developer discontinued development, possibly one of the best advertisements for why OSS is good :(
    • Editplus - Possibly the best editor ive found, not free im afraid, costs around $25

    VLC -, like you mentioned, Free media player is a great media player, it blew me away. Better then Window's media player, and I know that my porno viewing habits are not going straight to Bill Gates.

    One you didn't mention is Filezilla which is a good GPL ftp program instead of SmartFTP if you want to try another one out. (I must confess I use LeechFTP since I haven't gotten use to Filezilla just yet, although if you are into hosting files Filezilla is even better).

  36. Auto-Install DVD of Windows XP Pro by Kevin98003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just finished creating an automatic install DVD of Windows XP Pro. On this DVD it installs Windows XP Pro, installs my programs silently, and automatically installs all patches and hotfixes. This saves me a bunch of times from doing this the manual way. Right before I wipe Windows and reinstall, I move all my important data to my second hard drive.

    For more information please visit the MSFN Unattended XP CD at http://unattended.msfn.org/index.htm.

    In keeping with the direction of the first post, here is my list of my first 10 installed programs...

    1. Hotfixes and security updates galore!
    2. .NET Framework
    3. Windows Media Player 9
    4. DirectX 9.0b
    5. Office XP with Service Pack 3
    6. TweakUI
    7. Winamp 5.0.3a (no video codecs)
    8. K-Lite Mega Codec Pack
    9. WinRAR 3.30
    10. ETrust Antivirus 6.0

    I have a bunch of other installed programs on the DVD, but I thought I would share only a couple. ;)

    Cheers!

  37. HOSTS file by Naito · · Score: 4, Informative
  38. top programs. by Foresto · · Score: 4, Informative


    NETWORKING

    * Mozilla Firefox
    * Firefox extensions: RadialContext, User Agent Switcher, bookmarklets, Magpie
    * Filezilla (an ftp client that looks a lot like CuteFTP)
    * Klipfolio (a news ticker / rss viewer)
    * Trillian (an instant messenger, with the microscopic skin)
    * PuTTY (a set of SSH clients)
    * Cygwin/X (a port of X11, including an X server)

    MEDIA

    * BSplayer (a media player that handles DivX files well, even on SMP machines)
    * foobar2000 (an audio player, uglier but leaner than Winamp)
    * AC3Filter (a DirectShow filter for decoding AC3 audio)
    * Subtitle Workshop (for converting between subtitle files of different formats)
    * HACP (a lightweight cd player that understands CD text and online CD databases)
    * IrfanView (an image viewer similar to ACD See)
    * XnView (another image viewer)
    * Exact Audio Copy (an excellent CD audio extractor)
    * Real Alternative (a replacement for Real Player, without the bloat)

    UTILITY

    * Ad-Aware (for finding and removing spyware from your computer)
    * Spybot - Search & Destroy (another spyware removal program)
    * AVG Anti-Virus (not crashy like Norton AV, but updated less frequently)
    * IZArc (an archive & file compression utility similar to WinZip)
    * pdf995 (for easily converting your documents to Adobe PDF files)
    * ListXP (a lightweight raw file viewer modeled after Vernon D. Buerg's list for DOS)

  39. Partimage works fine on NTFS by waferhead · · Score: 5, Informative

    I reinstalled my sons Win2k box, (dual boot Linux) applied all patches, defragged, and shut down.

    Booted into Knoppix, made a bz2 compressed image of both his installs in ~5 minutes. Burned to 2 CDs.

    Wrote it back to disk, worked fine. Took ~3 min to overwrite.

  40. Contents of my install "thumb" drive. by OgGreeb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I keep a 250MB USB flash drive loaded with these installers for when I go to my friends and families' houses and have to fix their computers. This, plus a Bart's PE WinXP boot disk and a SP1-slipstreamed XP install disk pretty much can get me to the point of pulling down anything else I need from the Internet. Which ten are most important depends on the computer and the person I'm helping.

    • Adobe Acrobat Reader 6
    • AIM 5.5
    • DirectX 9
    • DiVX codec
    • D-Link DWL-122 WLAN drivers for the "thumb" wireless LAN adapter I also carry.
    • ITunes 4.21 (includes QuickTime install). QCD and/or Winamp 5.
    • Java RE
    • LimeWire
    • McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.01. I update the SuperDAT file once a month at least.
    • Lavasoft Ad-Aware 6
    • Mozilla Firefox
    • Nero 5
    • PuTTY and WinSCP
    • Macromedia Shockwave
    • Timbuktu Pro
    • TimeRC 3.0
    • Tweak UI powertoy
    • WCPUID
    • WinZip 9
    • Zone Alarm (free version(
    • As many of the MS hotfixes as can fit. Learning how to slip-stream these would be useful, but I would have to burn a new disk every month to keep up.

    If I can get a bigger thumb drive, I would add PowerDVD, the XP SP1, all the hotfixes, Audiograbber, Mozilla Thunderbird, a VNC client and server, Retrospect Desktop and one game. I'd like to add Partition Magic and Ghost but can't figure out how to use it and stay legal under the licensing. I will also add an OpenOffice disk when I get a moment.

    If I encounter Win9x I make them upgrade before I will help them (I'll perform the upgrade if they ask.) I make them pay for the licenses for anything I use though. I also make sure they have a backup protocol and run at least one backup so I don't have to repeat my work.

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    -- Gary Goldberg KA3ZYW 301/249-6501 AIM:OgGreeb Digital Marketing Inc., Bowie, MD //www.digimark.net/