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Google Files for IPO

bobwyman manages to be the first to submit this story, apparently by using his own web service: "Well, the PubSub.com SEC Edgar notification system just sent a message a few minutes ago saying that Google has finally filed their S-1 to go public. See: Google's S-1 which was accepted by the SEC at 2004-04-29T13:53:49-04:00. If you had had a PubSub.com SEC Edgar subscription, you would have been one of the first to see this filing."

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  1. More information by tiltowait · · Score: 5, Informative

    "In the filing, Google said that it generated revenues of $961.9 million in 2003 and reported a net profit of $106.5 million. Sales rose 177 percent from a year ago although earnings increased by just 6 percent." - LISnews.com.

    More stories are available from CNN and The Associated Press.

    1. Re:More information by strictnein · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Google's doing things the right way?

      From the yahoo.com link:
      The Mountain View-based company earned $105.6 million, or 41 cents per share, on revenue of $962 million last year. Google got off to a fast start this year, with a first-quarter profit of $64 million, or 24 cents per share -- more than doubling its earnings of $25.8 million, or 10 cents per share, at the same time last year.

      It's refreshing to see an internet company actually pulling a good profit. Hopefully google will be able to use the money it raises to actually grow their business, and not do as so many other companies have done and just go out and spend their new cash on worthless crap (*cough*mp3.com*cough*). It'll also be very interesting to see how an auction-based IPO works for a company with as much interest as google. Interesting quotes from the SEC form:
      We will not shy away from high-risk, high-reward projects because of short term earnings pressure.
      It is important to us to have a fair process for our IPO that is inclusive of both small and large investors.

  2. If you... by gleepskip · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you had had a Slashdot subscription, you would have been one of the first to see bobwyman's advertisement.

  3. My prediction by eschasi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google stock will go up, then down, then up, then become unpredictable. There, that ought to be vague enough.

  4. Any day now by DeputySpade · · Score: 5, Funny

    w0000t! Does this mean they'll have the money for the moon base?

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  5. I sense a disturbance in the force... by sampowers · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... As if a million investors cried out in simultaneous orgasm,

  6. Risks by cwis42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Risks Related to Our Business and Industry

    [...]

    We face significant competition from Microsoft and Yahoo.

    We face competition from other Internet companies, including web search providers, Internet advertising companies and destination web sites that may also bundle their services with Internet access.

  7. Auction by dpille · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looks like they're going with the share auction plan. Seems like the SEC filing is buried, but the key details seem to be:

    1) Underwriters manage the auction
    2) You pre-qualify, etc.
    3)You bid (and can multiple bid - ie, one bid for 9K shares at $20, another bid for 1K shares at $40, you'll get 10K shares if the price is $15)
    4)The reject "manipulative" or "speculative" bids
    5)They calculate a clearance price that'd sell all the shares offered according to the bids, and accept bids accordingly
    6)They determine whether to hand out all the shares bid, give everyone 80% of what they asked for, give the bid/little guys everything they asked for, or let original bid price determine who gets everything they asked for.

    I'd be really interested in what some professional equity people think of this process, it seems really interesting to me.

    1. Re:Auction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is almost exactly the same method that the US Treasury uses to sell government bonds. It is viewed by many academics as the most stable price discovery process.

      Check out this link for more info:
      http://www.googleinvestor.com/auction.asp

  8. Re:IPO - not a great idea... by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, because every company that has gone public has stopped innovative R&D and constant steady growth. Look at some of the major public companies out there (3M and General Electric) to see what R&D can really accomplish. Add in the fact that Google will gain at least $2 billion that they can use towards more services, current research, and increasing infrastructure. Your comment is baseless.

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  9. I thought this very interesting by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 5, Interesting
  10. Re:Too much hype by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look into how a Dutch auction IPO works, which is how Google will be doing this. It is a much smarter method for a dot-com type company, especially when people are afraid that the stock will be overpriced. They're doing this the right way.

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  11. Upcoming Open Source Alternative to Google... by cybrthng · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.mozdex.com :)

    Search engine built on Open Source technologies and will never have to worry about coming too corporate.

    Goal is to use an open api, open algorithm and disclose everything there is about search and search technologies. Will even be launching a blog shortly.

    Well, this isn't about the Google IPO, but it is about an open source project with ambitions to play the game google does without all the corporate mumbo jumbo and no need to IPO.

    Index is about 50 million pages during beta but we are about to roll out our 250 million page corpus.

    Let us know what you think :)

    1. Re:Upcoming Open Source Alternative to Google... by bigHairyDog · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not trolling, I'm just a pessimist...

      I'm sorry, but it's not going to beat Google.

      You see, the open source community is capable of some amazing feats, but half of the most skilled search engineers in the world work for Google. They have an obscene collection of fantastically talented people working on theory that few others understand.

      As others realise the money in search try and compete with Google the premium on employing search experts will go up so high that there won't be many with the principles to work on open source.

      It's sad but true.
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  12. Goo by MagicM · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope they get a "GOO" ticker symbol.

    Sweet precious GOO.

  13. Long Live Google! by ZackSchil · · Score: 5, Informative

    News.com.com reports that you are wrong. To quote:

    In an unusual provision for a technology company, Google will create two classes of shares with different voting rights, a move that aims to guarantee founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin will maintain decision-making authority...

    "In our opinion, outside pressures too often tempt companies to sacrifice long-term opportunities to meet quarterly market expectations. Sometimes this pressure has caused companies to manipulate financial results in order to 'make their quarter.' In Warren Buffett's words, 'We won't smooth quarterly or annual results: If earnings figures are lumpy when they reach headquarters, they will be lumpy when they reach you."

    The founders have also fought to maintain their control over the company even as it hired Chief Executive Officer Eric Schmidt in 2000. According to the document, Page and Brin said that they will run the company as a "triumvirate."

  14. cute choice of numbers by zatz · · Score: 5, Funny
    Proposed Maximum Aggregate Offering Price: $2,718,281,828
    I wonder what inspired the choice of e billion dollars.
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    1. Re:cute choice of numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That was a natural choice.

  15. Re:from the WSJ by abhisarda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's the wsj article(for subscribers).

    An interesting paragraph-
    "According to the filing, Chief Executive Eric Schmidt made $ 250,000 in salarly and got a $301,556 bonus last year, plus other compensation of $2,894. Co-founders Mr. Brin, now president of technology and Mr. Page, now president of products, both got salaries of $150,000 and bonuses of 206,556.".

    And you can compare the pay with other US companies. Other companies can learn from google here.

    For those worried that Google will become a wall street pawn, here's what the founders are doing about it-
    "The offering documents were filed with a lengthy letter, called the "Owner's Manual" for the company. In it, co-founder Larry Page said he and co-founder Sergey Brin have worried that the "standard structure of public ownership may jeopardize the independence and focused objectivity that have been most important in Google's past success and that we consider most fundamental for its future."

    As a result, the founders "have designed a corporate structure that will protect Google's ability to innovate and retain its most distinctive characteristics."
    Part of that will be a dual-class structure, in which the founders will hold a higher-vote class of stock that will allow them to control much of the company's fate."
    .

    Bottom line? Once you go public, wall street makes you ride to its tunes. Preventing that at google will establish it not only as the intelligent company but a financially astute one too.

    Side note-Berkshire hathaway is planning to soak up as many shares are available.
    Any ideas what Google will do with the money it raises?

  16. Are you worried google will loose focus? by Pranjal · · Score: 5, Informative



    This will stop your worries

    In an unusual provision for a technology company, Google will create two classes of shares with different voting rights, a move that aims to guarantee founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin will maintain decision-making authority. Such structures have proven beneficial in media companies, such as The New York Times, the filing states.

    So this mean Larry and Sergey will still drive Google and everyone knows how they work. I don't think they will just react how wall street wants them to react.

  17. Re:Rollercoaster Time by santos_douglas · · Score: 5, Interesting
    except:
    Although we may discuss long term trends in our business, we do not plan to give earnings guidance in the traditional sense. We are not able to predict our business within a narrow range for each quarter. We recognize that our duty is to advance our shareholders' interests, and we believe that artificially creating short term target numbers serves our shareholders poorly. We would prefer not to be asked to make such predictions, and if asked we will respectfully decline. A management team distracted by a series of short term targets is as pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half hour.