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The FragBook

Petaris writes "For all of you hard core gamers out there a new choice is availiable for gaming notebooks. Introducing the Falcon Northwest FragBook. This notebook will be in direct competition with gaming notebooks from several competetors including Alienware and VooDoo. Falcon-nw, VooDoo, and more recently Alienware are the place to look for insanely high end and usually fairly expensive gaming systems. The gaming notebook, a more recent arrival in the industry, promises more recent processors than are commonly available for notebooks. Just make sure you stock up on batteries or settle in next to an outlet. :)"

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  1. Don't get it by Gilesx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I want to play an FPS, I want my 21" monitor, my 6 channel surround sound with booming bass and a nice mouse to move around - I just don't think the experience could translate so well to an LCD screen, tinny laptop speaker, and a pressure pad to move about. And it'd probably cost a hell of a lot more too.

    I guess I'll just stick to using my laptop for pr0n when I'm away on business trips...

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    1. Re:Don't get it by Trent05 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Plus it won't burn your nuts after about 20 minutes!!

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    2. Re:Don't get it by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I want to play an FPS, I want my 21" monitor, my 6 channel surround sound with booming bass and a nice mouse to move around - I just don't think the experience could translate so well to an LCD screen, tinny laptop speaker, and a pressure pad to move about. And it'd probably cost a hell of a lot more too.

      Call me silly, when I go FPS, for audio I go headphones. Laptops amazingly enough are much closer to you then your 21inch screen. I'm a full yard back from my 20inch and am perfectly comfortable. Most people i've observed choose a monitor placement that is roughly the same as a piece of paper letter sized at arms lengh.

      I have played quake many a time on a laptop... pentium II class, headphones and a tiny trackball control. While there was no contast between it an my desktop system, I could pick it up and take it with me.

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    3. Re:Don't get it by Squirrley · · Score: 5, Funny

      i've used laptops at lans before, and it's really cool when somebody hits the power strip, and everybody dies exept you.

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    4. Re:Don't get it by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 4, Informative


      "Call me silly, when I go FPS, for audio I go headphones. Laptops amazingly enough are much closer to you then your 21inch screen. I'm a full yard back from my 20inch and am perfectly comfortable. Most people i've observed choose a monitor placement that is roughly the same as a piece of paper letter sized at arms lengh."

      Not at all silly. As a 'Professional Gamer' (as in, I compete in leauges and attend large lan competitions), I can safely say any gamer worth anything has headphones. Most popular are the plantronics Audio.90's which are nice, decent quality, and insanely cheap($30). A lot of people say theirs broke easy, but at $30, its worth the risk. Then theres more expensive stuff like the pc150's and other high end phones. Pretty much anything listed here is good for gaming.

      That site(thegamercompany.com) is filled with great hardware for gaming.

      My oppinion is a nice high end desktop for gaming, maybe a lower end shuttle for lanning (which can double as your desktop, depending on pricerange), and a fujitsu lifebook for actually working. The only gaming I'd want on a laptop would be simple things like 16bit console emulation, anything more just wouldn't work. Laptop lcds are small and can ghost/have dead pixels. Laptop keyboards are flimsy plastic (as is the Logitech Elite keyboard which has became standard, but of course I won't abandon my model-m). And of course you'll need an external mouse and power source for any real use.

      If you really wanted to make a FragBook (LanBook?) I'd say build a laptop without a keyboard and just a real nice screen thats durable, easy access to plug in keyboard/mouse/cat5/power, and just market it for the lanners.

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    5. Re:Don't get it by Surlyboi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Plus it won't burn your nuts after about 20 minutes!!

      That kinda depends on the pr0n, don't it?

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    6. Re:Don't get it by Necr0maN · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/hardware/ups/btups/

    7. Re:Don't get it by zaffir · · Score: 3, Informative

      For LAN gaming, nothing beats a Shuttle + LCD combo. While slightly less portable than a laptop, you can actually upgrade them - unlike laptops - and they're far less costly. My current shuttle setup - SN45G w/ 3200+ athlon XP, Radeon 9700 pro, and the other essentials - would cost about $1200 including my Viewsonic VP171B 17" LCD (which is perfect for gaming, btw). It's far more portable than a regular desktop, and costs half as much as any of these new gaming laptops. Plus i can throw in a new CPU or video card (or even a new motherboard with some work) and get a noticable speed increase. With these laptops you need to buy a new one to upgrade, or send it in to the company and have them upgrade it for you.

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  2. My laptop is running Windows by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 5, Funny
    My laptop's running Windows.

    I call it the DeFragBook.

  3. I tried by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gaming a while ago on my Inspiron 8200 which has well better specs than my normal destop and it came nowhere near the performance on my desktop. The sceen refresh seemed to be struggling badly to keep up with the game. Crappy sound takes a lot away from enjoyment of the game as well.

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    1. Re:I tried by jollis · · Score: 5, Informative
      Disabling vertical sync can help, since it unclamps FPS from your monitor refresh.

      A few hints on the fps/refresh subject:
      • For Q3A/RtCW engine based games, there's a console variable called 'r_displayRefresh'. This allows you to have the game set its own display refresh. I personally use r_displayRefresh 120 @ 800x600x32. Make sure you don't exceed your monitor's specifications.
      • Disabling vertical sync can greatly improve game performance for those stuck with low refresh rates. For example, one can easily do steady 125+ FPS while the monitor runs as 60Hz.
      • Use a mouse with a decent sampling rate and/or check its settings. Choppy performance (during turns especially) can often be attributed to low mouse rates and not frame rates.
  4. Absolutely... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...if you're staying in one place. If you're going to gatherings, LAN with friends or otherwise move the machine round alot (e.g. because you need to put it away to make room), all the cables and weight is a hassle.

    If I was about 15-18 somewhere again I might have gotten one of these (translation: I may have suckered my parents into buying me one). Would be perfect for the kind of computer use I had back then. Newer LCDs work very good at games, just add an USB mouse and some good headphones. It's a gaming system in a backpack.

    Kjella

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  5. Build a system by Like2Byte · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just built a system using some of the high end hardware on their System Configuration Page. The cost? Over $8700 using a 19" CRT instead of their ~$1500 21" LCD.

    Of course, if I wanted to park something that costs as much as a compact car on my desk I'd let Billy Joel do it.

  6. professional use by scheveningen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first time I saw a gaming labtop was during a meeting. Discussing CAD or visual simulation works fairly well on such machines!
    It is great to see all you gamers drive the market, so I can work better.

  7. ARGHHOOOOOWWWW by moxruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hark!

    Hear the cry of a thousand geeks who gamed too long with a laptop on their lap. May their manhood rest in piece.

  8. "The computer you want always costs $5000". by Forge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "The computer you want always costs $5000".

    I can't remember who said it but it remains true. Fully tricked out this baby is a 5G+ machine.
    I specked it with RAID 0 (yes, on a laptop), DVDRW (With a RAID 0 your Documents must go elsware), TV Card, Bluetooth, 1 GB RAM, 3 year warranty and little else. Now if they could offer an unpainted version and pass on the savings from that...

    I care about how my PC runs, not how it looks.

    PS: I chose XP Home (-$70) because I know I don't need pro to play games. I have herd that XPHome functions better under gamming loads than Pro. Is this true?

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    1. Re:"The computer you want always costs $5000". by rgsmith · · Score: 5, Funny
      I have herd that XPHome functions better under gamming loads than Pro. Is this true?
      ...someone with a 4-digit ID is asking the /. crowd for Windows tech support...

      Priceless.
  9. We are high. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The benefactors of the boom economy and the tech era have lost touch with reality. A 3000 dollar game machine? Get some perspective! Where can your head be if you would actually buy something like this. I mean, sure, you are rich compared to the rest of the world, but, thats not the issue, its that you choose to spend your supposedly valuable time playing video games on a hyper expensive yet inferior machine.
    Looking on how the other 99% live maybe we should realize that our prosperity is an aberation, and use our money and time more wisely.

  10. Anyone for Linux on a Falcon FragBook? by wehe · · Score: 4, Informative

    I couldn't find a Linux installation report about a FragBook yet. But since the FragBook TL is based on Intel's Centrino technology here is some generic information about Linux on Centrino laptops. The FragBook DR comes with a 17" display. Here is some generic information about Linux on laptops with 17" display.

  11. Re:raid in a notebook?!? by kfg · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, you don't use it for striping in a gaming system. It's purely a hardware failsafe. Level 1 mirroring. Pure redundency.

    You only need to spin the drive when you write to it, which in a gaming system is a very occasional occurance. We're not talking "Enterprise" order processing database here. We're talking writing back to the config file after a gaming session is over and the ability to switch to that drive if the primary drive fails while actually gaming.

    So it's a drain on the battery, but nowhere near twice the drain.

    And I certainly never said that using a laptop for a LAN party makes a lot of sense anyway.

    KFG

  12. Re:Ugly resolutions by TrancePhreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    almost all LCD's look poor when you have to scale. That being said, most modern video cards (NVidia does it, I can only guess ATI does too) should run in that resolution if your output device supports it. I have a laptop that runs at 1400x1050 and it looks really nice. I play games on it in that res too. It looks very very clean and has a good sharp picture.

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  13. Actually, wrong thread for Mac advocacy by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Informative

    A 17" PowerBook for unixy needs (i.e. Mac OS X and Linux). That 1.5ghz is roughly equivalent to a P4 running at 2.5 ghz

    In many applications it really is, but unfortunately, gaming is not one of them. In games, 1 GHz of a G4 is actually quite like 1 GHz of a P4 (there's no noticeable difference to the player, that is). No, I made no scientific research on this topic, but I played a lot on Macs and PCs since many years. There's also circumstantial evidence to my claim - system requirements of Mac game ports usually state the same CPU clock as their Windows equivalents. Being as much a Mac addict as I am, I wouldn't recommend powerbook as a "fragbook", even if the recent models should be quite capable with the 128 VRAM Radeon 9700 Mobility cards. But even if you put the lack of some titles aside (what if the LAN party you are invited to plays "Counterstrike"?), the 1.5 GHz CPU is exactly what it is, a 1.5 GHz CPU.

    I am a Mac user. I am even a Mac gamer. I am even a Mac LAN gamer (as a geek parent, I play strategy games with my kids on iBooks/iMacs connected via Airport). I agree that Macs have interesting advantages in this case, like the incredible ease of the wireless LAN creation. But I wouldn't qualify any of the current Apple machines as a "fragbook" - and they certainly don't need that kind of publicity.

  14. Astroturfing today by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The last two articles...

    First "TheTechLounge" writes about an article on... thetechlounge.com! Not that I'm complaining about the content, it's a good article, but why couldn't you have just posted it on Slashdot directly?

    Then this article, does anyone else think that this was written by the guy that makes these laptops? I suppose it still has some interest to nerds (and people who care about what matters), but it doesn't seem right to allow free advertising like this...

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  15. Some things to remember... by Mindcry · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just cause it says 9700 pro doesn't mean that it is... the mobile cards go a good bit slower than the equivalently rated desktop parts...

    techbargains.com + dell OR powernotebooks.com will save you a good bit over your voodoos and alienwares...

    also busses/ram/hard drives tend to be slower in laptops as well, just a few things to remember. Laptops have come a long way, and now they'll even play the newest games at good res without freezing, but due to heat and size (and therefore monetary ;) ) constraints, they're not gonna be as cool as the upper end desktops... but then again, that has always and will always remain true. On the plus side, they're easy to carry and the wifi is nice.

  16. Sager by Rinisari · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get yourself a Sager Notebook from PC Torque and save yourself a couple thousand dollars.

  17. Disappointed in Falcon-Northwest by SilentChris · · Score: 3, Informative
    I purchased one of their Fragboxes a few weeks ago, and was terribly dismayed by their service, construction and performance. My first Fragbox took over 10 days to arrive when the website originally said it'd take 2-3 to process the order (they since changed the website). When it did come, it came with a screw lying on the box floor (someone, when putting it together, had tried to bend a chassis panel that wasn't meant to bend; anyone could tell that's not good for durability). I returned it and they sent me another one, which was fine construction-wise but a dismal performer on benchmarks and games.

    Now, granted, this is a box that was meant to be more portable than powerful, with limited upgradability, but I sent it back. Since then, I've purchased parts for a fairly decent Athlon 64 system which should wipe the floor with the Fragbox for a few hundred more. It's one of those "If you want it right, build it yourself" things.

  18. This is nothing special! by poofmeisterp · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can get a gaming laptop that's of equal or better quality at JS Custom PCs for less money. You get a 3-year warranty in some cases. You get the no-dead-pixel guarantee. JS Custom PCs was actually ranking higher on Google searches for custom gaming laptops until Alienware bought a higher rank.

    Why would you pay $500 more for a laptop to get a little green guy or a threatening-looking face sticker? You can get a damn good laptop from the place I mentioned and stick your own threatening-looking sticker on it for $2. *shakes head in disbelief*

    Look here for the already-configured laptops. You can click on the "customize" link and trick it out even more.

    It's a shame to see a great company like this go unnoticed. I love my JS systems and recommend them to everyone.