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Mitnick Helps Bust Bomb Hoaxer

PhrostyMcByte writes "According to The Register/SecurityFocus: 'Ex-hacker Kevin Mitnick is a hero to the small town of River Rouge, Michigan, after using his tech skills to help officials nab the culprit behind a harrowing series of bomb threats.'" According to the piece, Detective Lt. John Keck "began searching the Internet for technical guidance, which led him to Kevin Mitnick, who'd earlier demonstrated a technique for spoofing Caller ID on the specialty cable network TechTV." Mitnick's comment on the bomb hoaxer? "He wasn't really hacking... he was really just being a jerk."

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  1. move along. by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the hoaxes unnerved some residents of the Detroit suburb, which boasts a population in the high four digits.

    "It is kind of funny, I'll admit, but this is not the time for these kinds of games," says Keck.


    No, it wasn't kind of funny. It was stupid... Really stupid. It wasted a lot of people's time. The bomb threat is one thing. Diverting police cars, forcing evacuations, searching for false bombs, making someone research how to track telephone calls, and having a writer tell a sensationalized story was a huge waste of time.

    This had nothing to do with phone phreaking, hacking, or anything. It was a dumbass kid who made a call from a cell phone and someone doing their job and finding Mitnick (who of course was willing to look like the good-guy) to solve the problem.

    For once I don't recommend that you RTFA.

    1. Re:move along. by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What a dumbass. Phoning in a bomb threat to your school from your cell phone...how do you expect not to get caught?

    2. Re:move along. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only halfway notable incident in this story is that Mitnick did some "good". That's it, and only for passing on some basic info on how to trace a phone number. Silly really.

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      The cesspool just got a check and balance.
    3. Re:move along. by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Phoning in a bomb threat to your school from your
      > cell phone...how do you expect not to get caught?

      Actually, he got away with it. Several times.

      He fell prey to the number one rule of getting caught though; not stopping. If the kid had only done it once or twice, the officer would have never sought Mitnick, would have never figured out how to query the phone companies, and the kid would have made the perfect crime.

    4. Re:move along. by dave+cutler · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think you missed the subject of "It is kind of funny." The young man called the bomb threat in FROM HIS CLASSROOM. Apparently he was in shop class on the cellphone dialing in a bomb threat. The fact that the childish misbehavior occurred under the noise of the school itself is the part that amused the Detective, and I would have to agree with him. It was funny.

    5. Re:move along. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would have thought that call tracing would be automatic and available upon request to any law enforcement officer.

      To find out this isn't the case is the most enlightening part of this story.

      TV Cop shows for the last 30 years have been lying to us!

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
    6. Re:move along. by pubjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I disagree. They just fly under the radar.

      Very true.

      When I worked in banking security my more experienced collegues told me that in the banking industry hundreds of millions of dollars go missing every year to organised criminals. You don't read about it in the papers because the banks don't want you to know about it.

      And I'm not talking about petty credit card fraud, I mean sophisticated hacking of the international banking networks to create false transactions and electronically move the money to countries where it can be quickly and anonymously removed from the system in cash or gold.

  2. The "in crowd" gets slap-on-wrist by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The detective is to be applauded for his creativity in finding the culprit. And let's also have some sympathy for him, 'cause you know this outcome has got him seeing red:

    The prankster confessed, and this week pleaded guilty to a single count of making bomb threats. He's not expected to spend any time incarcerated. "They're going to try to come up to some sentence that will put him on track to be more productive," says Keck.

    I'll bet five bucks the kid is in the "in crowd". Football season's over, and he's sitting in "gimme an 'A'!" shop class with the other jocks, figuring out what to do after they're done lifting the cheerleaders' skirts. "Hey, I know, let's call in a bomb threat. They'll strip search the geeks while we laugh our a$$ off!"

    Here in Texas, 15 year olds who aren't in the "in crowd" get sent to jail for life, and nobody even seems to care. And there are plenty of ridiculous examples of innocuous behavior being punished by schools.

    And this kid, a serial terrorist, is going to get off with a suspension -- probably because he's some bigwig's son, or else he's on "the team". What a load of crap.

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    1. Re:The "in crowd" gets slap-on-wrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tell me about it. at my school last year three jerks were accused of raping a girl in the year below them. They were let off with fines and immediately returned to school because there was doubt over whether it was rape or consensual. Why? because she'd once dated one of the guys involved for a month.

      Same school, same year, kid borrows a laptop from the school for a weekend as he'd done for months, but this time didn't sign out for it correctly. Suspended and grades withheld. There you go. Borrowing a laptop without proper authorisation is a worse crime than rape in School Land.

      (not to mention the ridiculousness of the logical conclusion that if you date one person you could be consenting to have forced violent sex with all their friends)

    2. Re:The "in crowd" gets slap-on-wrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Borrowing a laptop without proper authorisation is a worse crime than rape in School Land.

      The more I hear of the insane bureaucratic messups that are happening in schools, the more I realise that kids today who say "There's no use learning nuffing in school cos it don't apply to da real world" aren't being young naive and stupid... but damned insightful.

      Leave adulthood for kids to become jaded & cynical dammit, don't make them that at 15!

    3. Re:The "in crowd" gets slap-on-wrist by emilymildew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you think you know a situation that you obviously know nothing about, based on this guy not knowing anything about the situation?

      I'm so fucking sick of people dismissing rape claims because there are those who cry wolf.

      (And here's a fucking novel idea - how about guys treat girls with respect and not as pieces of meat? Or how about girls get taught to respect themselves and not GO to frat parties and get trashed while wearing as little as possible?)

      Ugh.

  3. Here we go again... by MysticalMatt517 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To the media, what's the difference? Anyone who commits a crime involving a computer is considered a hacker to them...

  4. uh.... by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 5, Funny
    He'd apparently made the calls, unnoticed, from class. "It is kind of funny, I'll admit, but this is not the time for these kinds of games," says Keck.
    br uh... exactly when is the RIGHT time for calling in bomb threats from class....?
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    for a minute there, i lost myself...
    1. Re:uh.... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny
      "exactly when is the RIGHT time for calling in bomb threats from class....?"

      When there's a test you didn't study for?

      --

      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  5. A good example? by david_reese · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'd have to say that it's good we can show a clear example of a "good hacker"... and what's best is this is a local effort. Good will for white-hats will be best done at the grassroots level.

    You can make a difference by doing good hackerly things and at the same time denouncing the draconian measures.

  6. re: move along by ed.han · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OTOH, mitnick did say it wasn't to him that people ought to be grateful but rather to shimomura. to me, that says something about mitnick.

    but i agree the keck saying it was "kind of funny" is stupid.

    ed

  7. New TV show: Hax0r Doo by Aslan72 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Said by the kid when captured "I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling haxors and your dog!"

  8. Re:Mitnick Speaks In Third Person by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wasn't really robbing the bank. I was just testing the security. Here's my business card.

    Now you can pay us to do it all over again thru our security break-in firm.... blah blah.

  9. Re:Mitnick Speaks In Third Person by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Wait... can't the exact same thing be said about Kevin Mitnick?"

    Kevin was hacking, but he was also being a jerk. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  10. Hi-tech means to cover his tracks. by Fubar411 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The dead-end led Keck to suspect that the caller was employing some hi-tech means to cover his tracks. *67?

  11. Schools in texas are ran by idiots. by DAldredge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Case in point. Longview, Texas (where a very large portion of the senior class can not read at 8th grade level) is paying over 500,000 to have artificial turf installed on the damn football field.

    They might not be able to read, but they have a kickass football stadium.

    1. Re:Schools in texas are ran by idiots. by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 5, Funny

      Schools in texas are ran by idiots.

      Res loquitur ipsa.

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      Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
  12. Hackers1 - Crackers 0 by carvalhao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wether people like it or not, there will always be someone that will misuse technology and its loopholes.

    Isn't it nice that there are some people that KNOW those loopholes and that don't misuse them? How can we defend ourselves against something we don't know?

    These kinds of actions bring the focus right to the differences between hacking and cracking most society is led to believe don't exist. Let me add that the good publicity comes in handy :)

  13. You know... by Poster+Nutbag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think this is an issue of technology as much as it is an issue of teachers needing to pay attention to their damn students.

  14. who is this? by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 5, Funny
    Imagine you have just cracked your way into a UNIX login. Looking around a bit, you soon get a msg:

    Message from kmitnick@localhost on pts/1 at 13:31 ...
    Um... dude... you picked the wrong freaking box to hack into today...


    That's when you log off and unplug your computer from the net, maybe move, get a different ISP, change MAC addresses... etc...
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    MORTAR COMBAT!
  15. Humm.... by eww · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It sounds like the phone companies were not that interested in helping the police out. Instead the police had to ask someone else to help them out. Other wise the police wouldn't have know which information to request on the warrents.

    I wounder if the phone companies would have been more helpfull if there actually was a bomb that exploded?

    Typical big biz...

  16. Re:Mitnick Speaks In Third Person by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, set a jerk to catch a jerk. Jerks who repent often spend their time in attonement.

    That doesn't mean we should ignore his having been a jerk, but neither should we hold that against his works of attonement.

    KFG

  17. What is strange... by 0xC0FFEE · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Mitnick didn't do much, he just taught the police officer what kind of information to ask the TelCo. What I find particularly disturbing is why the TelCo people weren't more involved. I mean:

    What happened: Officer: I need this TelCo: Searching... Nothing.. Try Again...

    instead of what should have happened: Officer: We need to catch this haxor TelCo: Ok, ..., there it is!

  18. Inherent problem with RBOCs? by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is there a reason there isn't a standardized procedure with the phone company whereby the cops say "there was a bomb threat made at 1pm to this number" and the phone company says "these were the incoming calls and where they came from"?

    Seems ridiculous that the cops in Podunk need to know how to request the info specifically.

    Before anyone jumps on me about privacy issues and overzealous cops with warrants, in cases where the customer (the school in this case) agrees to have their call records searched, this wouldn't really be an issue.

    -PM

  19. How long until this story morphs? by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    River Rouge, MI (AP)- Notorious hacking mastermind Kevin Mitnick has been spotted by Michigan law enforcement teaching people how to circumvent security protocols. His peripheral involvement in a series of bomb threats has been noted by officer Keck and is being investigated.

    "...showed me how...hack...phones", said Keck (extraneous text removed for clarity).

    Mitnick, known for his evil attacks against such pillars of the community as Sprint and AT&T, may also have been seen eating a puppy. - AP

  20. Re:Broken man by GeneralEmergency · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having worked with him personally, I can tell you that Kevin **knows** what he did was wrong. He has never made any statements to the contrary. He has complained about the abuses of the Justice system that occured in his case, but he would never use those abuses to justify criminal activity.

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    "A microprocessor... is a terrible thing to waste." --
    GeneralEmergency
  21. Social Engineering by whoda · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mitnick wasn't rehabilitated.

    He has just used his super-powerful skills of social engineering to make people 'think' he has been rehabilitated.

  22. l33t detectivez! by mabu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sad part of this is that the detective couldn't figure out what to ask for, or that SBC refused to cooperate fully. I think it's great that Mitnick gets some positive press and furthers the idea of white hat operations, but the more disturbing thing this story illuminates is how totally inept law enforcement is when it comes to tech issues.

    The boy didn't even employ anything creative or hacker-like. He just dialed a number on his phone, and the authorities needed an ex-con hacker to help them with this?

    I think stories like this call attention to the fact that there is a *desperate* need for more training of law enforcement people in tech issues.

    1. Re:l33t detectivez! by bloggins02 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The sad part of this is that the detective couldn't figure out what to ask for

      Wait, the police detective was supposed to just know that he had to ask for a "terminating number"? I don't think so. (OTOH, you're correct for calling out SBC for requiring these "magic words" in the first place).

      I look at this detective and see a guy who didn't know what to do, ADMITTED he didn't know what to do, and then found the right person to ask who DID know what to do. The guy seems pretty resourceful to me. I'll give him props, even if he didn't know what a "terminating number" is.

  23. Re:Heh by necro2607 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I doubt it's a matter of the system not being broken. I'd say it's just more likely that Kevin is a decent guy at heart, and that's what allows/allowed him to learn from his unwise choices.

    One other thing - breaking the law doesn't exactly make a person a "criminal"; they aren't suddenly some evil hateful person who only does bad things and so on. Defining a person by their actions is easy to do and is considered "reasonable" but usually results in inaccurately classifying someone's whole personality and overlooking other aspects of his or her personality and behaviour.

  24. Beating Caller ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Taken from here.

    To start off with - 15 Ways to beat Caller ID

    (0) This doesn't count as a way to beat CID, but there's a general
    principle to consider when contemplating ways to beat CID.
    Generally, the CID signal your target sees corresponds to the owner
    of the dial tone you call him from. If you call direct, you dial
    from your own dial tone and your line is identified. If you call a
    third party, and by whatever means manage to acquire his dial tone,
    and from there dial out, it is the number associated with that
    second dial tone that your target sees. Some of the ideas following
    this were developed with this basic idea in mind.

    (0.5) This also doesn't count, but remember that beating Caller ID as
    such is only the first layer of your protection. If your calling is
    sufficiently annoying or criminal, there is *always* a paper trail
    (ANI data, billing data, trouble reports, *57 traces, etc) leading
    back to the phone you first called from. That trail is not always
    easy or worthwhile to track you down with. Whether or not the trail
    is followed depends entirely upon how pissed off your target is and
    how much co-operation he can get from the phone company, law
    enforcement, etc.

    (1) Use *67. It will cause the called party's Caller ID unit to
    display "Private" or "Blocked" or "Unavailable" depending on the
    manufacturer. It is probably already available on your line, and if
    it isn't, your local phone company will (most likely - please ask
    them) set it up for free. This is the simplest method, it's 100
    percent legal, and it works. But just remember you will not be
    invisible to business customers with real time ANI (like on
    corporate toll free lines), or to 911, or to the mechanism that *57
    triggers.

    (2) Use a pay phone. Not very convenient, costs 25 or 35 cents
    depending, but it cannot be traced back to your house in any way,
    not even by *57. Not even if the person who you call has Mulder and
    Scully hanging over your shoulder trying to get an FBI trace (sic).
    Janet Reno himself couldn't subpoena your identity. It's not your
    phone, not your problem, AND it will get past "block the blocker"
    services. So it's not a totally useless suggestion, even if you
    have already thought of it.

    (3) Go through an operator. This is a more expensive way of doing it
    ($1.25-$2.00 per call), you can still be traced, and the person
    you're calling WILL be suspicious when the operator first asks for
    them, if you have already tried other Caller ID suppression methods
    on them.

    (4) Use a prepaid calling card. This costs whatever the per-minute
    charge on the card is, as they don't recognize local calls. A lot
    of private investigators use these. A *57 trace will fail but you
    could still be tracked down with an intensive investigation (read:
    subpoena the card company). The Caller ID will show the outdial
    number of the Card issuer.

    (5) Go through a PBX or WATS extender. Getting a dial tone on a PBX is
    fairly easy to social engineer, but beyond the scope of this file.
    This is a well-known and well-loved way of charging phone calls to
    someone else but it can also be used to hide your identity from a
    Caller ID box, since the PBX's number is what appears. You can even
    appear to be in a different city if the PBX you are using is! This
    isn't very legal at all.

    (6) I don't have proof of this, but I *think* that a teleconference
    (Alliance teleconferencing, etc.) that lets you call out to the
    participants will not send your number in Caller ID. In other
    words, I am pretty sure the dial tone is not your own.

    (7) Speaking of

  25. The technique used by the prankster by Powercntrl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you RTFA, it's easy to figure out what how the prankster was blocking his caller ID.

    With SprintPCS, you can call your voice mail and one of the options is to place a call. When you place a call using this method, your caller ID information isn't sent. Of course, Sprint still has logs of who you're calling so the only evil deed it's really good for is calling an ex-girlfriend and telling her you think she's fat and no good in bed. ;)

    Back in my day, kids that called bomb threats into the school used payphones... And they didn't get caught.

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  26. Re: move along by lunartik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cue Websters:

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    Main Entry: 1funny
    Pronunciation: 'f&-nE
    Function: adjective
    Inflected Form(s): funnier; -est
    1 a : affording light mirth and laughter : AMUSING b : seeking or intended to amuse : FACETIOUS
    2 : differing from the ordinary in a suspicious, perplexing, quaint, or eccentric way : PECULIAR -- often used as a sentence modifier (funny, things didn't turn out the way we planned)
    3 : involving trickery or deception (told his prisoner not to try anything funny)
    ------

    It was funny.