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Intel Releases New Pentium M Processors
doormat writes "Its been known for a while, but now it's official, as Intel releases Dothan, the 90nm version of Banias, aka the Pentium M processor. It also debuts Intel's new numbering scheme. The fastest new part is a Pentium M 755 2GHz w/ a 100MHz FSB, and 2MB of L2 on die cache. Reviews are starting to tip up as the NDA expires. One is at Tom's."
For some reason I don't think it is a coincidence that intel basically stole BMWs numbering scheme...
I'm more excited about the change of naming scheme than anything else. I was afraid they were going to call it the Super-ultra-mega-fantastic PentiumEXTREME X32000. "Pentium M 755" sounds like a car.
...over an AMD-style rating system instead of GHz.
the resulting transfer of angular momentum changes the Earth's orbit moving it slightly further away from the Sun.
the increased distance and lower temperature makes cooling easier. AMD stock set to skyrocket.
The results of the battery life benchmarks show the benefits of 90-nm process technology. The two test systems were identical, except for the CPUs, and gave nearly the same results."
From here.
Blue skies, Barthy Burgers, girls...
Couple of more reviews of the Dothan I came across around the web as Tom's isn't the only site reviewing new kit.
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TrustedReviews - http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=42
Digit-Life - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/as
PC Mag - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/as
Intel now has more chip models then users. In their quest to sell to all markets at the same time, they now have have more then 6 billion choises, where the current planet population is about 5.2 billion.
Here
(yeah, yeah, it's in French. Machine translate it for the text, and after all the pictures and chart don't need much of an explanation, do they?)
AMD is switching to the Mercedes numbering scheme while releasing the two new processors: Duron A 160 and Athlon64 SLK 600 KOMPRESSOR
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Motorola embedded PowerPCs power those German luxury cars don't they?
Just a tad ironic.
I just can't wait until they start using really stupid and cryptic numbers, like the GPU companies :
...I think websites with benchmarks like toms' will get more popular...
Will the Pentium 5 X159-XL-SE be more power full than a Pentium 5 X150-Pro-Ultra ? Or less powerfull than a X160-LE ?
Does it compare to an Athlon 64 Dual FX-95e 4699+++ ?
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Laptops get faster but laptop users don't get any smarter. Every day I see people with a brand new processor and 128MB of memory on windows XP. They insist that their laptop is slow but refuse to spend the extra 50 bucks to get a decent amount of ram in the machine. oh well.
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...Is why more hardware vendors aren't using these CPUs in Blade configs. They seem perfect for high density computing power.
I beg to disagree, if those guys can be trusted. Sure, a better FSB would clearly help, but look at what they achieve with a single-channel FSB100.
These new names seem about as useful as self confessed penis inches. Real world benchmarks?
If you're interested in Intel's future processors and how they'll be numbered, please look at the handy chart available here.
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Umm.. no. First its Quad-pumped, meaning that it acts like a 400MHz bus. I believe the P4 at 800MHZ quad pumped is somewhere in the 6GB/s range. So this should be sufficent since the architecture is less dependant on bandwidth.
You could even bother to do a back of the envelope calculation.
BW = (100*10^6)(4)(2 words)(4bytes/word)/(1024^3 GB/byte) = 2.98 GB/s
So yeah, its sufficent.
My ageing duron 1.3ghz does everything I want it to.
If someone made a reasonably priced, Pentium-M desktop using low power and heat components, I would consider buying it. Especially if it had no fan.
The energy savings alone would make it worthwhile.
If you can read French, there's an article on x86-secret where they opened a laptop, installed a big cooler, and overclocked a 2.0 Ghz Dothan to 2.4 Ghz. It remained stable during 2 hours of BurnP6 and stayed under 30 degrees C. The 2.4 Ghz Dothan beat the 3.4 Ghz P4 in all their benchmarks, and is comparable to the Athon 64 3400+.
TrustedReviews
Digit-Life
PC Mag
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The large cache is probably more likely used to lower the power consumption of the processor. It's far cheaper (in terms of power) to drive short chip level wires to get commonly used data from a cache than it is to drive long, high capacitance, board level wires to memory.
As soon as the new Centrino generation will be available on laptops and notebooks, there will be Linux information about Dothan machines here.
I don't suppose anyone knows if it the new Dothan CPUs are compatible with existing Banias notebooks at all? I very much doubt it, but I've not seen it expressly said thus far. It would be nice to be able to upgrade my ~3 month old 1.5ghz Banias to a Dothan, heh.
:)
Also, if they are not compatible, is Intel planning to take the Banias chips further, or will I be stuck at 1.7ghz max (or is it 2.2ghz?) until I buy a new one?
Excuse me for being a little ignorant.
Not sure how to read the comparison table between Banias and Dothan.
Peak thermal power is 24.5W for Banias and 21W for Dothan. But it looks like average thermal power is 6W for Banias vs. 7.5W. Sleep power, deep sleep power, and deeper sleep power are all higher for Dothan.
Does this mean if you're not doing a lot of number crunching, your battery life will be less than a Banias system? Maybe the cache has something to do with this... whatever. I would be more impressed if the power requirements were lower across the board. And the lower peak doesn't seem that low. What's the best case thermal advantage going from 130nm to 90nm of an identical circuit?
its quad pumped, like DDR but more so. its effectively a 400MHz bus
hm... "cut me up" seems to indicate that the person has a knife and they're about to carve you like a side of roast beef. Then again, "cut me off" has a rather eunuch connotation to it.
Now I have to wonder which new chips are faster. To (blatantly) steal from an earlier post:
I hate the "consumer electronics" style of naming things, incrementing a model number in order to sell an inferior product. Who here honestly thinks that Intel won't do exactly this when they release a product that bombs? I still remember the to-do when Tom's Hardware published a pre-release review of the Pentium II, showing that it was inferior to a Pentium MMX of the same clock speed.
What I would REALLY like to se is AMD seize the MHz banner now that Intel has abandonned it. I mean, now AMD doesn't have to give performance "numbers" to convince people to buy it. They could go back to simple MHz ratings, forcing Intel to keep itself honest. After all, we all know that the whole reason we all hated the MHz rating was because AMD had superior performance at inferior speeds and it just wasn't fair. I don't remember too many people complaining when AMD went back to MHz specs with the Athlons. Here's hoping to see it again soon.
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(My point is, reprinting inane press releases does nobody any good.)
I'm surprised that the marketing department missed the upcoming opportunity to label dual-core CPUs with 'twice' the clock speed, as is done for bogomips.
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Here is a link about TCPA as a threat to free software.
Slowing TCPA adoption is enough of an benefit to me to prefer a TCPA-free processor even if it costs $50 more for the same performance. I just hope I'll have that option for a while, as Intel is not the only company promoting TCPA.