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E3 Wrapup Documented

mindless4210 writes "The new Nokia N-Gage, shown at E3, looks promising, but Nokia better be prepared to compete with Sony and Nintendo. Nokia is betting the N-Gage's wireless communication abilities will set it apart and allow multiplayer gaming to move away from computers and living-room consoles and into consumers' pockets." Reader harikiri writes "According to the BBC, the much-maligned Infinium Labs has showcased their Phantom console at E3. Apparently Infinium have made agreements with AMD and Nvidia to provide the processor and graphics controller. The specs seem very respectable: a 2.5GHz AMD processor, 256MB RAM and a 40GB HDD." Reader Ipingforpong writes "E3, probably the most well known video game trade show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army. Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show."

258 comments

  1. Army Assault by Orgazmus · · Score: 0

    In these days, an assault like this would scare the shit out of me.
    Who knows who they'll go after next?

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    1. Re:Army Assault by PhoenixOne · · Score: 1
      When you are at E3, things like that are tame. :)

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  2. The degeneration of E3 by jaani · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Each year the amount of glitz and frivolous (ie, non-gaming related) material seem to increase quite significantly. Between Army antics and PR fluff, fewer and fewer titles of substance are actually playable, and the attention of the gaming press has become less focused on the games than their promotion.

    Is this to compensate for the decreasing number and quality of the games that are showcased, or does it simply reflect the fact that the Western games industry is increasingly mainstream?

    1. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Jameth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's kinda both.

      Anything mainstream in the US gets glitz like you just don't want. That Army stunt is a great promo, more cool than most, but it is still just a promo.

      However, the issue with game quality isn't so much that it is decreasing, as that it isn't increasing. The problem is, games are replayable. If a game this year is the same as a game from last year, plus arm-hair on the models, nobody cares. The game is As Good, but not better.

      It's the same problem a lot of industries run into: all the best stuff comes out quick. The first video game was revolutionary, even if it had nothing. For a long while, everything moved in leaps and bounds. Now, most of the leaping and bounding is done, and at the same time there is tons more attention from those who are not technologically adept.

      As such, they resort to glitz and psuedo-fraud.

    2. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      "show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army

      Your tax money at work. So did they kidnap people and play out their Abu Ghraib deviant-sex-totrure games too?

      If the Army wanted good PR they should clean up their act instead of spending even more tax $$$$ playing video game promoter.

    3. Re:The degeneration of E3 by wankledot · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Is this to compensate for the decreasing number and quality of the games that are showcased, or does it simply reflect the fact that the Western games industry is increasingly mainstream? "

      When was the games industy 'underground'? exactly?

      This stuff sounds like typical tradeshow biz to me.

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    4. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main problem I have is that most of E3 itself was rendered pretty much irrelivent by the pre-show conferences by the big 3 (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo).
      After all is said and done, most people are left hyping up Halo 2, the PSP, the DS, and most of all Zelda. All of which were effectively covered in a matter of hours.
      As impressive a showcase as they can be, (Nintendos backslapping/crowd pleasing affair expecially), it appears to me that whatever happens on the show floor is being gradually curtailed by the impact of a handful of bombastic conferences.

    5. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Otter · · Score: 1
      I have little interest in gaming news, but every year when Slashdot runs these daily summaries, there are usually several things that catch my interest a little.

      Now I see this posting "from the till-next-year dept" and realized that there was not a single thing in any of the daily stories that called for more reading. Just incrementally more insanely fast hardware and sequels to games that didn't super excite me in the first place.

    6. Re:The degeneration of E3 by MsGeek · · Score: 1, Funny
      Your tax money at work. So did they kidnap people and play out their Abu Ghraib deviant-sex-totrure games too?

      Yeah, that's the new version of "America's Army" that they are going to have Rockstar Games design for them. Grand Theft Auto: Baghdad. Rape a female prisoner, get extra health. :P

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    7. Re:The degeneration of E3 by TheAntiCrust · · Score: 1

      From what I've seen of Half Life 2 in the movies that have come out... it seems to be leaping and bounding quite a bit. I went downstairs to show my mom how the models moved... and I was at a loss, becuase they just move like PEOPLE. It's nuts what the Source engine can do.

    8. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      don't you mean rape a male prisoner? or will this version not allow you to play as a female soldier

    9. Re:The degeneration of E3 by rethin · · Score: 1

      >> I went downstairs to show my mom how the models moved

      Dude, its cool and all you live with your mom.

      But do you really want to be so obvious about it?
      Me, I'd just kinda keep it under my hat and all.

      Rethin

    10. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      Wow, better graphics that require a significantly faster computer. It's certainly cool, but it probably won't really affect that gameplay. Of course, if it turns out to be good and I upgrade my computer at some point in the future, I'll probably pick it up since it's Half-Life.

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    11. Re:The degeneration of E3 by TheAntiCrust · · Score: 1

      If you dont think it will affect gameplay you really need to watch some of the videos. At one point he gets into a huge workable crane, picks up a shipping container, and drops it on some enemies... watching him cruise around the beach running into gaurds and firing his mounted turret while flying over hills and crashing through barrels also feels like a change in gameplay to me =)

    12. Re:The degeneration of E3 by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      I downloaded a 650 MB video from GameSpy (which was zipped for some crazy reason), only to unzip it and find out it was a Quicktime video with one of their crazy proprietary Sorenson video codecs.

      So I didn't get a chance to watch said video. Sounds interesting, though. But keep in mind that Tresspasser had good physics as well =)

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  3. Why is Nokia still trying? by Vthornheart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does anyone have any sales figures on the original N-Gage? I can't imagine that the sales were decent enough that they felt they could give it another shot. Perhaps they just have a lot of extra money that they don't want to be burdened with. Money is a rather cumbersome thing for some people, I guess.

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    1. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      5000 units in the first week. .02 N-Gages per person (assuming 250 million peeps in US)

    2. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Vthornheart · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ouch... brutal. In all honesty, marketing a TI calculator as a game system would probably have sold more copies. =)

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    3. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, as an anonymous coward I shall post a random figure of 39,193 in the first week of its release in Belarus. I shall provide no links in regards to evidence. I am a Nokia fanboi.

    4. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by grepistan · · Score: 1

      It would be more fun, too, I suspect. I can find more fun things to do in emacs than on that entire system. What were they thinking?

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    5. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think anyone had a problem with the idea of combining a cell phone with a gaming system. Convergence of electronics is certainly nothing new, and for handheld electronics, where portability is a big issue, there's an even bigger convergence push. People just didn't like it because it was a BAD gaming system (remove batteries to change games) combined with a WORSE phone (Sidetalkin', anyone?). These are problems which can be fixed with a hardware redesign.

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    6. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      Erm, I seem to remember a Slashdot article where it was something closer to 5000 units sold by the time they dropped the price, which was, what, two months after the fact?

    7. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by hunterx11 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I can find more fun things to do in emacs than on that entire system.

      That's only because emacs uses more resources than an N-Gage game :)

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    8. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Jameth · · Score: 1

      Keeping at it is probably damn cheap. During the first run, they found out about a million stupid bugs, worked out most of the hardware and interface ideas, got a team into full swing working on it, and covered any other such one-time charges. It even has a recognized name--yes, even a scorned name is better than no name. The second edition is just an update on what they've already got. Why not release it?

    9. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by antic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I was in Bangkok and Singapore earlier this year, N-Gage's were available in shops everywhere and people seemed to be buying them. It might be that some of their success comes from the Asian market, and that trying again in the US/Europe is made easier by the fact that it's profitable to sell a revised model elsewhere?

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    10. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by FRiC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm in Thailand and the N-Gage are sold out almost everywhere. In Thailand, phones are not subsidized to the carriers, so N-Gage selling at 9,600 Baht (approx. US$240) with three games included is an incredibly good deal.

      N-Gage is not introduced in China, and it seems that it could be a huge hit there too, as the interest for the N-Gage is high in China, plus phones in China are expensive too.

      Or maybe us Asians don't know what tacos are...

    11. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      The rule in busines is that you never review past success or failure when considering a new business venture.

      The concept of the Ngage was a fascinating one evidenced by it's presence on slashdot.

      Also they don't need to do any more software work or developer work they simply need to rework the hardware and rebuild it probably one of the simplest areas for a company.

      The NGAGe's model of liscencing old titles should make production cheap and they will have to keep updating the design anyway to play to the elusive phone purchasing market (What are there 10 billion phone designs?)

    12. Re:Why is Nokia still trying? by juhaz · · Score: 1

      I can find more fun things to do in emacs than on that entire system.

      Time to port Emacs for Series 60, then?

  4. E3 is not just about games.. by andr0meda · · Score: 5, Funny


    There's also the yearly return of ever delicious boothbabes.

    And since my company PlayLogicGames also exhibited it's line-up on the show, thought I'd say hi.

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    1. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by Staos · · Score: 0

      And the "alternative" booth babes!

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    2. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by jeffehobbs · · Score: 5, Funny


      Are you a game developer or a pimp?

      ~jeff

    3. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing playing logic games doesn't exactly bring in the girls, does it?

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    4. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by shut_up_man · · Score: 4, Funny

      Uh... there's a difference?

    5. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by gedanken · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you can please give props to one particular boothbabe hired by your company named Amelia. She was quite the commando.

    6. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by lwells-au · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are yes, the famous "no underpants" attack...

    7. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Sigh, the thought of women who care about gaming nearly naked drives me mad.

      Also any fashion statement which involves Nylon is cool.

    8. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by dupper · · Score: 1

      Jesus, is this Fark? Do we need a '+1 Boobies' mod?

    9. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you guys show off Xyanide, or is that a different Playlogic? If it's you guys I'd just like to say that's the only game I'm waiting on for xbox :)

    10. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by andr0meda · · Score: 1


      Hey thanks for that nice comment! :)

      The game has been finished for over 3 months but talks to get it on the shelves have been kinda stalling so far.. :/ Guess it gives us a chance to polish even more, which is also kinda cool.

      I'll post a JE when the game gets out of the door in the coming months.

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    11. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Had a Fallout 2 flashback about Myron (a geek that developed a drug called Jet), something like -

      "He stays in his room, all alone with nothing but an endless stream of prostitutes coming and going. Typical Project Manager."

      Remember kids - if you want booth babes, try Project Manager or Marketing (though expect to die young in a drunken speed boating accident in the latter), not programming ;)

    12. Re:E3 is not just about games.. by juhaz · · Score: 1

      Sigh, the thought of women who care about gaming nearly naked drives me mad.

      Care? About gaming?

      Bah. These are actors/models/pr folks.

      They're there because they get paid for it, and that's just about all there is to this "caring".

  5. Ngage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, give up Nokia! You are never going to be able to sell those things. Just saying N-Gage will get you laughed out of the building.

    What a joke.

  6. I'll tell you for free by ProudClod · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been exhausting covering it, especially when you get slashdotted half way through!

    Still, at least I get a rest from E3 action until e3 2005, which is scheduled for May 18-20 2005

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  7. E3 Extravaganza by Trent+Polack · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a writer for FileFront.com, and let me tell you, this year's E3 was great. There are a ton of great games coming out in the next year, and although you hear day-after-day about all the new MMORPGs coming out, make sure you keep an eye out on the great FPSs (Half-Life 2 and Doom 3), 3rd-person action/adventure (Fable and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) and RTSs (Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War) coming out this year as well.

    Check out all of the coverage that my coworkers and I put together at our E3 2004 Coverage Page. Lot's of great stuff there.

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    1. Re:E3 Extravaganza by AresTheImpaler · · Score: 1

      S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is not a 3rd person action adventure. It's a FPS that, IRC, has some roleplaying elements. you can see more here.
      If you go to the engine features, you could see that this game has lots of potential.

    2. Re:E3 Extravaganza by Trent+Polack · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can get a third-person view; at least the videos and demo I saw allowed it.

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    3. Re:E3 Extravaganza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn, most of those "great games" were at last years E3.

    4. Re:E3 Extravaganza by AresTheImpaler · · Score: 2, Informative
      from their FAQ:
      Q: Some screenshots show the stalker from the back. Does this mean that there will be a third person view?
      A: No. The game will only feature a view "from the eyes" - a first person view.
  8. If you're going to fight, clash! by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Funny

    E3, probably the most well known video game trade show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army. Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show.

    They performed the same stunt, last year, right as I was about to cross the street to walk in. A guy in full green camoflage, green and black facepaint and carrying a machine gun walked up to me and told me to please stand back for a few minutes. Applying my rule of never arguing with people holding real machineguns, I did as he asked.

    Sadly, given my never argue rule, I never did get to ask why the in God's name the US Army thought it was intelligent to wear GREEN camoflage in Los Angeles of all places. Concrete gray mixed with a dirty smog brown, perhaps. Green though...?

    I guess the Army finally listened to Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam:
    We've got a special man in the audience today right now. Its Mr. Leo. He's a fashion consultant for the Army. 'Why thank you Adrian. I'm just very happy to be here. I want to tell you something. You know, this whole camoflague thing for me doesn't work very well.' Why is that? 'Well you...because you go into the jungle I can't see you. You know, its like wearing stripes and plaid. For me, I want to do something different. If you go into the jungle, make a statement. If you're going to fight, clash.

    1. Re:If you're going to fight, clash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      carrying a machine gun

      More likely an assault rifle, I expect.

      (The real sort, that is, as opposed to the label people have tried to apply to other sorts of guns that merely "look military".)

      why... GREEN camoflage in Los Angeles... Concrete gray mixed with a dirty smog brown, perhaps

      The military has different camo patterns, including urban camo. No doubt they went with green either because it was handy, or because they wanted that look. This was, after all, a marketing stunt, and the uniforms in this case are really acting as merely costumes. Meeting the expectations of the audience or matching the interior set design were the priorities in this case.

    2. Re:If you're going to fight, clash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a promo, they were trying to be seen.

    3. Re:If you're going to fight, clash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Exactly, if they were wearing the correct camo the people at E3 would have been more freeked out by seeing the M16s flying through the air without troops holding them.

    4. Re:If you're going to fight, clash! by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Applying my rule of never arguing with people holding real machineguns

      What are you, a coward?

      Sadly, given my never argue rule, I never did get to ask why the in God's name the US Army thought it was intelligent to wear GREEN camoflage in Los Angeles of all places.

      I'm surprised they picked a Los Angeles convention center to assault in the first place. The average LA resident would probably return fire when they saw them coming.

    5. Re:If you're going to fight, clash! by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Hey I'm a complete coward and I've argued with several people holding machine guns. (AK47/M16 count?)

      They might have used green camo because in the game that's what they wear?

      This whole American army things sounds like a pretty super idea, great marketing for the army and with free online distribution (No publisher) they can get it out the door for a reasonable price.

  9. Nokia N-Gage by haggar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am used to read a lot of bad press about the Ngage, including Slashdot. You might have the impression that such a bad and unpopular phone/console would be cheap to snatch up on eBay and similar places.

    When I decided I wanted an MP3 player built into a phone, and that I would try to getthat combo by buying a second-hand Ngage, I was very disappointed: Ngage are auctioned off at very respectable prices. High enough that I am made to wonder if I would rather buy a separate MP3 player after all.

    So, the only logical conclusion I can draw is: Ngage customers seem to be very satisfied with it. There just isn't enough people parting with their Ngage, to have the prices drop.

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    1. Re:Nokia N-Gage by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Or, it's cool enough in enough people's minds that people will still try to buy them, and thus aggressively bid each other up to almost-retail. That's often the case with relatively new video game units, since there's typically some games for it that can't be played on anything else.

    2. Re:Nokia N-Gage by vxvxvxvx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or hardly anyone bought them in the first place.

    3. Re:Nokia N-Gage by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Funny
      'So, the only logical conclusion I can draw is: Ngage customers seem to be very satisfied with it."

      I guess there will always be a few people who enjoy talking into a taco.

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    4. Re:Nokia N-Gage by branchingfactor · · Score: 1

      Wrong! Dissatisfied customers ask for refunds.

    5. Re:Nokia N-Gage by Txiasaeia · · Score: 1

      Better conclusion: everybody wants to try out Sidetalkin'.

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    6. Re:Nokia N-Gage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i like to mumble to pink tacos, in my dreams.

  10. Phantom vs. Xbox by News+for+nerds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Though everyone mocks Phantom and Infinium Labs's aggressive attitude toward internet users, if Infinium Labs can persuade some notable PC developers to join in its camp, it may be nice competition to Xbox, as "better Xbox without Live". Or is it supposed to have reasonable network support? If it has network multiplay, it's almost like Xbox 1.5.

    1. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Listen, I'm just impressed and very very surprised that it turned out to be an actual system rather than a VC scam.

    2. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by News+for+nerds · · Score: 1

      Yeah, me too, but if it can run Xbox emulator and Linux, with slightly higher price than Xbox, it's not bad at all.

    3. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by 0racle · · Score: 1

      Well I was disappointed. There was just something about vaporware named 'The Phantom' that just always made me laugh. Its not funny anymore.

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    4. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't see any actual system. I saw a piece of plastic that looked nothing like their promo literature.

    5. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by discogravy · · Score: 1
      I heard when they made a working prototype of the phantom they went through like 10 dogs at once.

      Jokes aside, wtf is the army doing there, fucking around at a gaming convention? Don't they have a war to fight or something? Despite that "mission accomplished" photo-op-BS, I'm fairly sure they're not done over there.

    6. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, we don't have enough troops to run an occupation there. But, we can't keep our troops there forever either. We need to cycle them out.

      If we go much longer, we'll all just get drafted.

    7. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Raztus · · Score: 1
      Console box with these components for $200? Can you say ultimate media center?

      Let the hacking begin!

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    8. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      Its not a gaming platform...you don't develop games for the Phantom. It plays PC games. I have a serious feeling they spent a large amount of available capitol on the gigantic booth they had. There were plenty of couches for sitting and entertaining prospective VC, the kind they're going to need to cough up the cash needed to make the million or so boxes they're going to need to make the business profitable. In case you don't know, they're giving the boxes away when you sign a two year contract. You download all the games you want to play once you have the subscription, and never pay for the box or the games, just the monthly fee. A) they need to make the hardware, B) they need to get people to sign up to put their games on this subscription model. I'll believe it when I see it. This thing could have been great 5 years ago when people watched money burn for fun and warmth, but in todays skeptical market, forget it. Of course, when pressed for such details as what launch titles they'd have or the amount of the monthly fee, the answer was mum. We'll see...

    9. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by ocelotbob · · Score: 1
      wtf is the army doing there, fucking around at a gaming convention?

      Like any large organization, they have to recruit, get volunteers. Everyone's got to advertise. Unless of course you like the draft.

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    10. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They need new recruits... apparently they're expecting to run out of troops soon, like they did in 'Nam.

    11. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Triskele · · Score: 1
      Listen, I'm just impressed and very very surprised that it turned out to be an actual system rather than a VC scam.

      It WAS a VC scam. Trouble is it worked. They got the money. Then they had to spend it. So now they've hired Kevin Bacchus and actually had to make good on their promises. Who knows it might even pay off.

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    12. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by PhoenixOne · · Score: 1
      "better Xbox without Live"? Why would anybody want to trade Live (which is like $70 a year) for Infinium's service which costs $30 a month?

      Oh...because they don't have to deal with Microsoft right?

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    13. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by PhoenixOne · · Score: 1
      Oh, but the Phantom is "hack proof", they said so at their booth! ;)

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    14. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by PhoenixOne · · Score: 1
      "and never pay for the box or the games, just the monthly fee."

      Who said this? I remember at the booth they talked about being charged for the games you download. I'm sure there will be a bunch of free ones as well (like Free-cell and a dozen pin-ball games) but you will not be able to download Doom3, Unreal2004, and Halflife2 for free.

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    15. Re:Phantom vs. Xbox by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1
      I bet the negotiations went a little something like in :
      Ted: Hmm. Okay, I'll buy from you.
      Tommy: Well I... What?
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  11. The future, Conan? by Throtex · · Score: 4, Funny

    Innovation: How long before someone releases yet another PC-in-a-home-theater-acceptable-box that can combine the functionality of all the other boxes?

    All we need is a single damned box that can work as a DVR, play games on a Microsoft OS, purchase new games over the Internet, and play against other people over the Internet as well.

    Whoever can come up with ONE SINGLE DEVICE that can do all these things will be rich! Perhaps we can call it the "Plethora of Consoles" (PC). It'll be like nothing else!

    1. Re:The future, Conan? by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 1
      You can get a standard PC to do all of these things, pretty easily. First take a reasonably powerful computer, add a video encoder, some PVR software, a DVD-RW drive, a broadband internet connection, and maybe Yahoo! Games on Demand and you can have all of that.

      The trouble comes in that it is practically impossible to have one machine do lots of things well. It may do them all, but not as well as a machine designed just to do that single function would.

      Examples: an actual TiVo is vastly superior to a PC w/ video capture and PVR software (with the notable exception that you can't burn shows to DVD... I'm talking strictly UI and stability). A DVD player may be great for watching movies, but the built in MP3 playback is usually pretty crappy.

      I used to be an all-in-one kinda guy too... now I am starting to move towards a single machine for a single use philosophy. My TiVo is great, I am going to get a Gamecube soon, and just forget about dual booting XP so I can stick to Linux for all my desktop needs, etc.

      Just my $.02.

    2. Re:The future, Conan? by 0racle · · Score: 1

      Im already working on it. I'll ave the CG mockups compleated soon. I call it the specter.

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    3. Re:The future, Conan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um.... re-read the parent to your post. It was a joke - the "plethora of consoles" is abbreviated as PC.

      Get it?
      (Alternatively, I realise you may have got the point, but decided to make your own point anyway, in which case we should both be thankful we are far down the comments to escape the wrath of drug-hazed mods).

    4. Re:The future, Conan? by Throtex · · Score: 1

      I think he understood my joke. He was merely adding to what I said that a PC could do with tangible examples of each. Then he went on to voice a preference to having each device separate.

      Personally, I too would like each device to remain separate and thus optimized at its task. My post wasn't so much a jab at that all the functionality could be replaced by a PC, but rather that eventually we'll probably actually SEE someone tout this all-in-one component as the killer app of Home Theater.

      Some guy got thrown in jail for taking pictures of his teenage girlfriend with a cell phone camera and posting them on the Internet. His probation will prohibit him from using a cell phone at all. Since when were cameras an integral part of cell phones? :)

      You get my drift... my jab at all-in-oneness was basically to wonder what the situation would look like when we merge into one device components that were all spawned from one device.

    5. Re:The future, Conan? by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 1
      (with the notable exception that you can't burn shows to DVD... I'm talking strictly UI and stability)

      Just got one of Pioneers Tivo/DVD-R's for christmas. not only will it record to dvd, it simply transfers over the tivo's already compressed info, so a four hour dvd burns in about 30 minutes. As an added bonus the dvd menu's look like tivos menus

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  12. A handheld year by typobox43 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the focus on recent years' E3 seems to have been on consoles, handhelds seem to have been the primary focus, with the DS, PSP, and N-Gage 2 all seeing the light of day. In this age of ever-shrinking technology, is there any chance that this could be the direction that the video game industry is headed? Could consoles go the way of the dodo ten years down the line? At least two of the handheld offerings this year seem very strong, and with their wireless connectivity abilities and graphics similar to those of home consoles, the handheld system may begin to be seen as little more than a cheaper alternative to a console system.

    1. Re:A handheld year by bravehamster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interesting point. Here's how I see things heading regarding handhelds vs. consoles:

      You handheld becomes your controller when in the living room. The console is replaced by a reciever that can coordinate the action between multiple handhelds and display it to the screen. This way you can have many more people playing, no cords necessary if you throw some bluetooth or similar tech into the handheld.

      I believe Nintendo already did something similar to this with the Crystal Chronicles for Gameboy Adv. Watch for more of this to happen as handhelds catch up graphically with the consoles.

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  13. Konami got hit? by DragonMagic · · Score: 0

    Saw this on a forum earlier today:

    http://www.b2g3.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&i d=1084620601&user=ukresistance

    Anyone know whether this is accurate?

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  14. Ofcourse by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    E3, probably the most well known video game trade show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army. Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show.

    Emphasis mine. No sane army in the world would use real weapons with real live ammo in a non-combat situation. Doing so pretty much breaches every protocol, regulation and whatever else there is regarding safety. Maybe they used training rifles ( You know, often seen on Discovery... M16 variants with tiny orange thingy at the end of the barrel ) that fired blanks, perhaps. I doubt that in a non-combat situation even blanks would be allowed, loaded in rifles.

    So less hype and more common sense, please.

    1. Re:Ofcourse by typobox43 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nowhere was it said that they were loaded. :)

    2. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely real rifle with empty clips... Since it makes no mention of them firing ammo

    3. Re:Ofcourse by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

      I certainly felt more threatened when some evangelist(Pat Robertson I think) flew to my highschool years ago in a helicopter to deliver a speech. They converted a spot on the main parking lot into a helipad and security was everywhere. I'd rather have soliders drop in from a blackhawk. That would be much cooler, and certainly makes for a good recruiting gimmick.

    4. Re:Ofcourse by MrNixon · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm in the military, so perhaps I can provide some insight here.

      Though I wasn't there, I would say that the soldiers were carrying real weapons, though I can pretty much assure you that they were not loaded with any kind of ammunition.

      Those 'training rifles' you speak of? They're the soldier's personal weapon with what is called a Blank Firing Attatchment (BFA) fitted to the end.

      That is a real weapon, and all the BFA does is provide a seal for the gases to recock and reload the weapon (so that the semiautomatic and automatic fire functions of the weapon will work).

      Basically, the barrel of a gas-operated weapon (like an M-16 or just about any machine gun) has a little hole near the end of it that allows the gases that are propelling the bullet to travel down a gas tube and force the bolt of the weapon backwards to extract the casing in the chamber and put another round in.

      When you fire blanks, there's no bullet to provide a seal and force the gas back down the tube. That's what the 'tiny orange thingy' (BFA) is for.

      That said, replicas do exist for training purposes. They're made of solid rubber, and they're actually heavier than the service rifles!

    5. Re:Ofcourse by jjeffries · · Score: 1
      Untrue. The Marines are training in and around my town, right now, some with live ammo, and with many very real helicopters and other war-type toys. Many are not pleased.

      Here is an article about it in the local paper.

    6. Re:Ofcourse by ChipMonk · · Score: 4, Informative

      #1 rule of gun safety: Always assume the gun is loaded. No gun safety instructor will ever tell you otherwise.

    7. Re:Ofcourse by Reducer2001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The American military seems a little light on discretion these days....

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    8. Re:Ofcourse by boredMDer · · Score: 1

      Who said they were using live ammo?

      They were, likely, real rifles (M-16s probably), but just as likely, unloaded.

      Sure, they may have had a mag inserted, but the chances of there being ANY ammunition in the weapon whatsoever is slim to none. If there was any, they were blanks, but there would be no point.

      You're right, though, they would NEVER bring live rounds to any sort of demo.

      The BlackHawk was a nice touch, though.

    9. Re:Ofcourse by psychosis · · Score: 1

      Actually, the training weapons are usually "real" rifles outfitted with the red blank ejector guard on the muzzle and lazer tag-type attachments that tell the other guy when he's been "shot".
      So, in all truth, they were probably "real rifles", but were certainly not "ready to fire".

      So less speculation and more background research, please. :)

    10. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ALL Guns are ALWAYS loaded. That's the rule. There is no such thing as an unloaded (== safe) weapon.

    11. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but it's not worth getting your panties up in a wad over it either.

    12. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't blame the American military for its lack of discretion. Blame the American voters for theirs.

    13. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

    14. Re:Ofcourse by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 1
      The M16 you see on TV with the orange thing is a REAL FUNCTIONING M16. The orange bit is called a blank adaptor, which is there the provide sufficient back pressure to move the bolt back and load the next round into the chamber. Normally, the round being ejected from the barrel provides this back pressure.

      I know this from my seemingly endless days in basic combat training.

      I apologize if this is redundant.

    15. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every soldier has his/her own rifle and they are not allowed to let it out of their sight. That's because a soldier without a rifle is useless in battle. Anyone who's served in a military knows it's reasonable to assume the soldiers at E3 had their own rifles loaded with *empty* clips. The risk of someone misplacing their rifle is pretty non-existant.

      The orange thingies are attached to a real rifle in order to prevent splinters from flying all over the place when firing practice rounds with a wooden tip. Also they make the recoil more powerful, as to simulate firing live ammo (at least that's what the thingy's name in my native language implies).

    16. Re:Ofcourse by shaitand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blame the American Corporations. After all, who you vote for has little or no impact on what is going to happen. All your voting for is who the Corporations pay to do the exact same thing.

      Oh, you also vote for the manner in which they will candy coat the exact same bullshit. The only issues changed are non-issues. They get people all hyped up over the insignificant crap so they won't notice when the REAL policy is implemented.

      Examples of bullshit issues they'll distract you with:

      Tobacco laws (either side)
      Abortion (either side)
      Environmental Protections (either side)
      Equal Opportunity (again, either side)
      Legal Marijuana
      etc

      These are all bullshit issues, yes they need decided or already have been. But at the end of the day it really makes no great impact which way these things go.

      At the end of the day there may or may not be legal abortion, but your rights such as free speech WILL be eroded. Each day you lose a little more freedom, government and law enforcement gain a little more power and you have a little less. Each day corporate entities grow a little stronger.

    17. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but this is slashdot, home of the getting-panties-up-in-a-wad-over-trivial-things-no body-else-gives-a-damn-about

    18. Re:Ofcourse by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      and lazer tag-type attachments that tell the other guy when he's been "shot".

      Does the attachment automatically adjust for range? Or is the emphasis of the exercise that the person hit was exposed?

    19. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm... the little orange thingy (aka "Blank Adapter") lets the pressure from the blank, when fired, to force the bolt back in order to reload another round into the chamber. There are not special M-16's used for firing blanks compared to firing live rounds.

      There are pseudo-M16's, that have like a plasticised body and stock molded around other parts of the gun, but these are primarily used by ROTC units. These things suck, because they weigh about twice as much as an M16. But they look like an M16. The Army guys rappelling out of the choppers probably weren't carrying these.

      Cleaning an M-16 after a day or two of firing blanks through it sucks. They get a lot of crap all over inside them compared to cleaning them after firing live ammo through them.

      I imagine that the army guys were carrying real M-16s, with empty magazines on them.

    20. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The orange thingies are attached to a real rifle in order to prevent splinters from flying all over the place when firing practice rounds with a wooden tip. Also they make the recoil more powerful, as to simulate firing live ammo (at least that's what the thingy's name in my native language implies).

      Completely and utterly wrong. The blanks used for military weapons are just like the blank .22 shorts used for track-starting guns, Powerlodes, etc. They are filled with gun powder, and the end of the casing is crimped to keep any powder in the casing before it is fired, but there is no wooden tip on the end of the case. The BFA is used on gas-charged automatic weapons (i.e, M-16, SAW, .50 cal, M-60) to allow enough pressure to remain in the barrel to force the bolt back to reload the weapon. The recoil of the bolt provides enough "kick" to feel real enough, at least for the M-16 and M-60.

      M16's are nasty enough to clean after firing a bunch of blank rounds through them to not need things to be complicated by any wood shit getting jammed in the end of the barrel, which would ruin the barrel anyways in short order.

    21. Re:Ofcourse by rzbx · · Score: 1

      These "examples of bullshit issues" you have provided are important. True, in part they are a distraction, but they are issues we should have nearly solved a long time ago. Unfortunately, there is enough propaganda and enough people that are extremists in their beliefs and don't mind pushing them on others that the issues are still there. Let us take a few examples. Gay marriage, why is this even being discussed by our government? Why should any other person care if two people of the same sex want to get married? Marijuana, this is one of the most important because of the amount of problems associated with it. Why should the government have any authority over a persons own free will to injest any substance one wishes? As much as these two examples and many others are about distracting us from other things, they are real. These are freedoms we do not have but should. Where do we start fighting for our freedom? If these issues are distractions, then what issues do we work on? Free speech is important and by ignoring these "bullshit" issues, we allow them to censor just a little more. How much research related to harmful effects of tobacco was thrown aside by the tobacco industry decades ago? How much research related to the uses of the marijuana plant has there been? How much of this research was destroyed by our government? These are REAL issues. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech whether it be about an issue you personally care about or not. If you let one issue slip by, you make it easier for them to win another. There is no "bullshit" issue when it comes to freedom of speech.

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    22. Re:Ofcourse by entrigant · · Score: 1

      When you pull the gun out of your parents closet THEN you assume it's loaded. If you unload it yourself it's probably safe to say it is REALLY unloaded. Seems you missed the point of that tidbit of advice.

    23. Re:Ofcourse by Kumiorava · · Score: 1

      Good explanation, here is some additional information. I don't know M-16 but when Finnish army shoots "blanks" they are actually ammunition with wooden bullets. Reason why there is orange (yellow in finland) tip is exactly what you explain, wooden bullet doesn't have enough energy to push always the lock back. It also has second function to break the wooden bullet so nobody gets hurt. Wooden bullets can be fired for a short time but sooner or later the rifle jams.

    24. Re:Ofcourse by IKnwThePiecesFt · · Score: 1

      Though they can bring their loaded m16's onto school busses, and wave them at the kids. (Speaking from experience... my highschool is on the USAFA)

    25. Re:Ofcourse by __aawwih8715 · · Score: 1


      don't be stupid.
      keep your pants on.
      treating it as loaded == not pointing at anyone.
      100 bucks says there weren't any magazines in them.

    26. Re:Ofcourse by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      > No sane army in the world would use real weapons with real live ammo in a non-combat situation.

      Real Rifles Real Live Ammo. Or any ammo at all, for that matter.

      Chris Mattern

    27. Re:Ofcourse by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      > No sane army in the world would use real weapons with real live ammo in a non-combat situation.

      Argh, frickin' HTML. Try again

      Real Rifles != Real Live Ammo. Or any ammo at all, for that matter.

      Chris Mattern

    28. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely and utterly wrong. The blanks used for military weapons are just like the blank .22 shorts used for track-starting guns, Powerlodes, etc. They are filled with gun powder, and the end of the casing is crimped to keep any powder in the casing before it is fired, but there is no wooden tip on the end of the case.

      Ah, but I myself have fired these wooden tip bullets, while using the yellow thingy, or BFA as you call it. At least one army (the one I served in) uses this kind of practice bullets. No idea how that stuff is done in America for example.

      Your statement about "the barrel getting ruined" by some wood shit is also untrue, since I've never found anything except more of the regular shit in the barrel of my rifle after firing these rounds

    29. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep (I also just completed military service in Finland ;) ). Specifying a bit more, the blank fireing attachment or "impulse amplifier" (as the finnish term could be loosely translated) consists of a piece of metal tube that goes inside the barrell and is attached to the flash suppressor by a screw, and a bent metal plate fastened to the tube in front of it. The wooden bullet in the blank round helps feed the ammunition clean, and when it's fired, it temporarily gets caught in the tube, which has a smaller diametre than the calibre of the weapon, allowing for a sufficient gas pressure to build. Then it is forced through the tube, which should already shatter the bullet, and the shards are deflected by the front plate. Standing beside someone shooting with these may give you a nasty rash from the flying debris, and as a safety precaution, generally one isn't allowed to fire directly at training opponents closer than 50 metres. In CQB training, people wear goggles to protect from the shards. I've seen the same system on light machine guns (including the russian PKM), the AK 47, sniper rifles (including dragunov) and the heavy (12,7mm) machine gun, so I suppose it's pretty universal for weapons operating on gas pistons.

      This attachment is one of the articles most often lost on training exercises, btw ;)
      Also, a real bullet accidentaly included in the magazine is supposed to just pierce the thing clean and hit anyone who happens to stand in front of it.

    30. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, and by the way, when guns are used in movies, they most often are modified so that the attachment is fitted into the barrell. Finnish military training videos have not done this, so the director has gotten clever with hiding the attachment through camera angles (first, you see a soldier with an empty gun from afar, then, when he fires, the frame has moved in closer so the muzzle isn't seen).

    31. Re:Ofcourse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should any other person care if two people of the same sex want to get married?

      Presumably because the religious right is secretly scared that their god is too weak to enforce his own laws.

      I'm religious too, but I at least give God that much credit. My creed involves this thing called free will which says that we have a literally God-given right to choose whether we want to live by his morals or our own. Gays may well be going to burn in hell, but that's their business, not the government's.

    32. Re:Ofcourse by psychosis · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure of the details, but it will chirp with one sound if you've had a "near miss", and buzzes incessantly when you've been "hit" while de-activating your own gun... As for range, I believe they are tuned to reflect the effective range of whatever weapon they're attached to. Google for "MILES gear" for more info though...

    33. Re:Ofcourse by aftk2 · · Score: 1

      But at the end of the day it really makes no great impact which way these things go. At the end of the day there may or may not be legal abortion, but your rights such as free speech WILL be eroded.

      I invite you to inform your wife or mother that the freedom of her uterus is less important than the freedom of your mouth.

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  15. Sounds like to me by Aexia · · Score: 1

    Metal Gear 4: Code Recovery Alpha

    Solid Snake's on the case!

    1. Re:Sounds like to me by real_smiff · · Score: 1

      hey, this is great publicity. it'll probably work out for the best for them. I didn't even know there was an MGS3 coming out until i read this story.. but that could be cause i'm not really a gamer :p Assuming the demo is leaked on the 'Net, I still can't see how it'll hurt sales.

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  16. Multiplayer? What's that? by despik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Max Hoberman, multiplayer lead developer at Bungie Studios, told BBC News Online: "When we made Halo we never realised that the multiplayer element of the game would be so popular.

    Now this is, ladies and gentlemen, what I call a silly tit. Who would have guessed? Multiplayer? Popular? And this is supposed to be a spokesman of Bungie, of all companies -- apparently he hasn't noticed how wildly successful their previous multiplayer games were, from Minotaur (with no singleplayer option!) to Marathon to Myth.

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    1. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by Hast · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's a console game, and MP hasn't been as big with consoles as with PCs historically. So it's not very strange at all that they didn't foresee the large MP rush.

    2. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Anybody who looked at game history for more then 30 seconds should know that multi-player for console will be a hit, if it can be done easy enough, and with the right kind of game.

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    3. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called lead-time - it usually takes 2 years to make a console game, and Halo was in development for much longer than that (on the PC before coming to consoles).

      Add in the year or so that it took to sell a bunch of copies of Halo - and there was no way that they'd have been able to predict that multiplay (especially online play) would have taken off so much by the time Halo was in it's mid-life.

    4. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they did support multiplayer. Xbox Halo had 4-system network play (built-in network port, remember) which supported up to 8 players. It was an excellent game for lan parties:

      players per machine: 1 to 4
      machines per LAN game: 1 to 4 (LAN)
      maximum number of players per LAN game: 8

      Xbox Live hadn't launched at that time, so they did the best that they could with the resources available to them - and they did an excellent job.

    5. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Two things to take into account here:
      • Multiplayer mode is not nearly as popular as multiplayer game players think it is. There are a vast number of Halo, Myth, and Marathon players who have never tried MP and may not be aware that it exists. Gamers who are active on the Internet remain an extremely vocal minority.
      • The rise of Xbox tunnelling programs like XBConnect. This made Halo's multiplayer accessible to a vastly greater number of people than it would be if it really was limited to LAN play only. These programs appeared well after Halo was released and it's easy to believe that they took the original developers by surprise.
    6. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was probably referring to how popular it got for 2-4 players all sharing an X-Box or linking up, as distinct from online gaming.

      I'd never seen anything like it either, to be honest, heaps of non-gaming friends started saying "come over we'll play halo".

    7. Re:Multiplayer? What's that? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      But the fact remains, they released a game with "multiplayer" features that had no bots!

      Sure, I like playing against humans more, but sometimes you just fancy a skirmish, or you and your mates want to go up against a much larger force of AI.

  17. E3 - Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas by pheph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the biggest surprises at E3 was Rockstar's publication of info and screenshots of Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas. There was much speculation that there would be no releases until much later (it is, after all, a late October release). For info/screenshots, check GTA-SA.com. They're f*#$ing brilliant.

    1. Re:E3 - Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was more a surprise they didnt show a playable version of the game - E3 is normally a place to show playable demos of games to be coming out later this year (september, october, november, december) - ala halo2, resident evil 4, etc. heck, e3 also is a place to show movies and screens of games not going to be out until mid NEXT year (see doom3 last year, the new zelda). so yea, one of the biggest surprises (for ps2 anyways, for nintendo it was zelda and for microsoft it was halo 2's confirmed release date, among other things) - was that rockstar didnt let people play GTA - SA.

    2. Re:E3 - Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas by rhuntley12 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't want people to realize they are buying the same thing they bought with Vice City. Regular GTA3 with some new looks and tunes.

    3. Re:E3 - Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So are the screen shots on that site real or not?

      Time to delete the fake one(s) if some of them are. Nuke the fake covers while you're at it.

    4. Re:E3 - Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      But it's not like people disliked Vice City after playing GTA3. Yes, interaction with the environment is pretty similar (running, jumping, carjacking). And sure, random acts of violence were more satisfying in the sequel.. but there was a whole new story to experience and - perhaps more importantly - a whole new city to explore.

  18. Phantom at E3 by enditallnow · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I submitted an article on this subject but it didnt make the cut, ce la vie.

    I think its worth pointing out that the mouse and keyboard combo looks like an interestingly designed piece of technology. Its shaped so that the entire thing can sit on your lap comfortably. The keyboard appears to be adjustible and the thing itself acts as the mouse mat. I would be slightly concerned that the mouse mat area is too close to the keyboard so perhaps that limits its use. IGN has a CGI mockup of it here and a real once can be seen in the BBC article linked too in the story.

    Hardware aside I haven't actually seen any reports of software that runs on the thing. Did anyone who attend E3 get the chance to playtest one? As far as I can tell it was only the box on display and it may of only had a basic running demo.

    The last thing I want to mention is about their distribution model. They claim they want to make software downloadable via broadband internet connections. Thats all fair and well but does anyone out there remember The Sega Channel? Long story short it was a cable channel that allowed you to download Genesis games directly onto your console. I don't believe it faired to well but given the popularity of XBox live and PS2 Online it shows that there is more of a likely uptake.

    BTW, anyone interested in the Sega channel should have a look here and here.

    -- Enditallnow

    1. Re:Phantom at E3 by Tezkah · · Score: 1

      Its kind of interesting that even though everyone makes fun of the Phantom. Sony and Microsoft are talking about "broadband delivery" of games for their PS3, PSP, Xbox2, and its already occuring in limited things like patches and extra content on the current Xbox.

      It could be a good idea, I am really tired of waiting for the stupid stores in my area to grab a hold of a copy of the latest obscure game I want (it took them at least 3 months to get Skies of Arcadia for Dreamcast when it came out, and Disgaea is nowhere to be found since a few weeks after launch, until its rereleased...

      Then again, I like having a physical copy of the game in my posession, so if my console dies, I dont lose my games.

    2. Re:Phantom at E3 by DAtkins · · Score: 1

      Does no one else notice that the Phantom looks just like a George Foreman grill?

      Obviously a fake!

  19. Ohh yeah, I forgot too mention.... by enditallnow · · Score: 1
    Tycho mentioned over at Penny-Arcade that he had a run in with the CEO of Infintum Labs who was quick to confirm what we all wanted to know, it seems he really does need to murder dogs to have an orgasm. Good to hear that he's got a good sense of humor. :)

    -- Enditallnow (F.A.O the Mod's: 'cause im getting that funny "Your a troll feeling" here is the link to the strip that started it all. )

  20. Any recording of E3's army stunt? by antdude · · Score: 1

    I'd love to see it in video. Did anyone record it?

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    1. Re:Any recording of E3's army stunt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love to see it in video. Did anyone record it?

      Yep, teh Army itself (wadda ya think :p)
      http://www.americasarmy.com/gallery/videos/E3 2003_ BlackHawk.mpeg
      http://www.americasarmy.com/galler y/videos/E32003_ CSAR.mpeg
      http://www.americasarmy.com/gallery/vid eos/E32003_ Stryker.mpeg

      (the last one really isn't anything special though) ...and I just saw that these are from last year... but it won't be that much of a difference I think. (still using M16A2 or whatever, are they?)

    2. Re:Any recording of E3's army stunt? by akeyes · · Score: 0

      http://www.americasarmy.com/gallery/videos/E32003_ BlackHawk.mpeg So, they recorded it last year.

    3. Re:Any recording of E3's army stunt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and I just saw that these are from last year... but it won't be that much of a difference I think. (still using M16A2 or whatever, are they?)

    4. Re:Any recording of E3's army stunt? by not5150 · · Score: 1

      Yes... I recorded two of the drops. Video is 2 Mins 30 Secs, and in Divx format.

      It will be on the E3 Summary Article on www.tomshardware.com.

      Also is my writeup of Phantom versus DISCover. I took video of the interface, outsides, lapboard, and the back of the Phantom.

      Both should be up Monday or Tuesday..

      not5150
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    5. Re:Any recording of E3's army stunt? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Thanks not5150. :)

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  21. Where is Rummy on this one? by softspokenrevolution · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All right, so we spend a couple of million dollars developing the game (by we I mean, US taxpayers), and now they pull expensive stunts to promote the game.

    I'm sorry, but I'm just a little bit upset about that? I mean, couldn't they be using that kind of money to, oh, I don't know, armor some Humvees?

    1. Re:Where is Rummy on this one? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, it comes out of there advertising budget. That monay is already slated for something besides HumVee armor.
      Should there be less money in the advertising side of things? who knows. From what I have heard, America's Army has been a huge success for recruitment. People jumping out of cool helicopters is always good for recruitment.
      So its result per dollar has been very high. It seems to me they are saving money. More recruits per dollar, means fewerdollars needed.

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    2. Re:Where is Rummy on this one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd just like to add that since the majority of the crowed at E3 are the exact people that the Army likes to recruit (males between 18-24), I couldn't think of a better place to pull a stunt like that.

  22. Americas Army is the model for next gen online FPS by nerdb0t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AAO has nailed it. it's all about the "Honor" system that they created - it's an implicit anti-idiot feature which all but eliminates the morons that show up online when you are playing.

    BF1942 would be a great game, if it weren't for all the tards that show up. they need the honor system - AFAIK AAO is the first and only online game that uses it. here is why this is important.

    the gaming industry is HUGE - it is bigger than the theaterical movie theater industry (ie. revenue from ALL movies in ALL theaters in the US doesn't even come close to touching the revenue from GAMES.)

    in fact, if you combine all the money made by LOTR it's about the same as Madden Football (and that game didnt cost a zillion dollars to make)

    anyway - so dis the US army all you want, but they are paving the way for serious anti-idiot game play.

    w00t.

  23. Any specs released about Nintendo DS? by Drift3r · · Score: 1

    Where's the good stuff? I want to know *everything* about the hardware. I want to know the resolution of both screens, the levels of sensitivity of the touch screen, the proc speeds, whether or not you can run both CPUs at the same time, RAM size and type, and all the other cool stuff.

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    1. Re:Any specs released about Nintendo DS? by Rallion · · Score: 1

      The one they showed wasn't final, which almost certainly means they aren't positive what the final specs will be. Maybe they don't want to act like Sony, and just lie about their machines, or talk when they have no idea what the truth is.

      I don't deny the good qualities of Sony products, but I hate how I really need to tke everything they say with a grain of salt. The latest was their statement that PSP will likely be sold at a loss, when a few weeks before they said they would definitely sell it for a profit. In the end, of course, gamers prefer it to be sold at a loss, but saying it'll be sold at profit tends to generate more hype.

    2. Re:Any specs released about Nintendo DS? by jx100 · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly sure they were only referring to the aesthetic design of the hardware when nintendo said the hardware wasn't final, and that the internal electronics were finalized.

      They also seemed to be downplaying the power of their units, with the emphasis that power doesn't matter anymore.

  24. Not sure... by nobodyman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're right: handhelds definitely had the spotlight this year. One odd exception was mobile phone based gaming -- even with NGage 2 it seemed like it was a hotter topic last year than now.

    Personally I doubt consoles are going away any time soon -- I think there's a lot to be said for playing a game on a big screen on your couch. That said, I do think that the PC market will continue to decline -- mobile devices will cater to the solitaire/minesweeper type gamer, while consoles (with their increasing cpu power and online capabilities) will make further inroads into genre's typically reserved for PC's. But who knows...

  25. Where's mention of Myst IV? by GaelDesign · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's only one thing out of the entire E3 news that interests me: Myst IV. They were demoing it at E3 and even Rand Miller showed up a couple of times and was mobbed by a few rabid Myst fans! :)

    Myst IV looks like it will be fantastic, possibly the best title in the Myst series yet. Check out the developer's blog at:
    http://revelatione3team.blogspot.com/

    Cheers,

    Jared

  26. Re:Sales by grub · · Score: 1


    Thats around .02 ngages per person in the US.


    The US has a population of 250,000?

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  27. I don't understand the Army's interest in this by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The army is basically using first person shooters to promote recruitment.

    Yet, think about it. Play these games, have a lot of fun, then realize "Hey...if that had been real, I wouldn't have been able to respawn those 20 times I died...do I really want to do that kind of thing in real life???" and then run at warp 10 away from the recruiter. That's what I'd do, anyway.

    Doesn't seem like it should be a good recruiting tool at all.

    1. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by dukeisgod · · Score: 1

      But the kid that 0wnz043d j00 is itching to turn 18, sign up, and try the real thing.

    2. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Drift3r · · Score: 1

      If experience has taught me anything, it's that all people that play video games all day and get really good at these games are not army material. They're a lot like the comic book guy from the simpsons, could you imagine him fighting for the army?

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    3. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The army allocates a certain amount of funds towards recruitment each year. This money could be spent on things like more television advertisments etc, but apparently people who come to the army after playing the game have the highest follow-though rate of any other recruiting method.

      They're also using this tech now internally for things like land navigation theory.

    4. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Private Comic Book Guy was a fine soldier when he served. The only negative marks on his record were multiple complaints about him over using the phrase "Worst MRE ever!."

    5. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by tukkayoot · · Score: 1
      A lot of gamers are like the comic store guy, and, I agree, probably not Army material at all. On the other hand, teenagers are gamers too. A lot of them may be brats, but they're young, and (to some degree, at least), they can be molded/programmed/trained/ect. into better material for the Army.

      The fact that gamers will tend to be at least somewhat comfortable with technology doesn't hurt either. Plus gaming requires coordination, reflexes, teamwork, strategy, ect. qualities that I imagine are useful in battle. Of course casually played games like America's Army aren't useful as training tools in and of themselves, but I don't imagine they hurt either.

      The parent makes a good point about how getting killed repeatedly in a video game that's supposed to simulate the Army experience perhaps not necessarily being the best recruitment tool.

      Still, I'm not sure your average gamer gives it much thought. On the other hand, it's a nifty piece of propaganda. As a player improves in skill and has more and more success in the game, passing tests, winning exercises, winning medals(?), advancing in rank(?) (I'm not sure the last two actually happen in America's Army, I didn't play it for very long), you feel a sense of satisfaction, as you would in any game, but when you're playing AA, you are being constantly reminded that the Army that the game is simulating is real. You could do all of that stuff in real life, and of course, the feeling of accomplishment would be much greater, plus they get to work in the patriotism angle, ect. The same angles they work in their television advertisements, but in game form it may be even more compelling.

      Another thing I wonder is if there are any kids out there who have spent so much time playing America's Army that they started doing poorly in school and as a result, their options coming out of High School seemed bleak, and decided to enlist in the armed forces as a result. I wouldn't be surprised. Not that I necessarily think this is intention, but it's kind of interesting to contemplate nonetheless.

    6. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by prockcore · · Score: 1

      "Hey...if that had been real, I wouldn't have been able to respawn those 20 times I died"

      If you had actually played AAO you would've known that there is no respawn.

    7. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by rhuntley12 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I personally think it may work for those guys who are just about to finish high school or have been out for a year with nothing to do but play online games. I'd like to see some hard data on it though, if they even ask people if they played AAO when they sign up. It's atleast your tax dollars spent better then more TV ads I think. Atleast you get to play the game instead of a dumb commercial. I wouldn't doubt it at all if some people have signed up after saying, "Holy shit, you mean I can use this same weapon in real life and get paid for it? And I get to move out of mom and dads basement?"

    8. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the way the Singaporean Navy goes about it. They give away Stikfas!

      I won't enlist to protect my country, but I'll do it for a three-inch tall action figure!

    9. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt the effect is people joining up thinking it'd be the same in the real army.

      The recruitment success probably just comes from simply product exposure: every young guy who plays it is essentially seeing a whole recruitment promo along with the game, when otherwise they might never have even seriously thought about joining.

      Then they get it in their head, think about the benefits, call up the recruitment hotline, and bingo. Classic marketing, the actual game is just there to keep their attention.

      Besides, the percentage of people in the army who actually run around the battlefield shooting is much, much lower than you'd think. Take your average army, subtract the logistics, support, signals corp, artillery corps, transport corp, catering corps, engineers, and there's not many left jumping out of choppers.

    10. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think what happens with "America's Army" is that it secretly talks back to a secret server at Area 51, and those who do really well are vetted by alien clones modded to look like Albert Phinney, who shows up at their doorstep one day.

      Odd things happen, and the Albert Phinney character steps out of his costume, and it's really a Duke Nukem-looking guy wearing a Speial Forces gillie suit, gives the kid an M16, and says to watch out, because Al Kayda is driving around the neighborhood.

      Lo and behold, an ice cream truck drives down the street the next afternoon, the kid feels the urge to go get a Bombpop or whatever, and notices something freaky about the driver. Some guys start to come out of the back of the ice cream truck with funny magazine belts strapped to their chests and do-rags that cover their faces, and the kid runs back to the house, grabs the M-16, and manages to shoot the bad guys as well as the driver of the ice cream truck.

      The Albert Phinney character then shows up in his car (which morphs into a super turbo hyper Humvee), and says to the kid, "You see? The threat is real. America needs you. Are you ready to go?" ...and if he says yes, then that MH-60 Blackhawk, that has been orbiting the neighborhood (odd, he didn't notice that before...) zips down into a hover, and the smiling SF crew on the helo welcomes him in...

      If he says no, he wakes up with a bad headache, and it all seems like a bad dream...

    11. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 1

      If you join the Japanese navy you get to dance... I think.

    12. Re:I don't understand the Army's interest in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the thing to remember is that in real life, the match is generally uneven. The actual U.S. army usually has complete air/armor/weapons/etc superiority.

      Usually the only advantage the enemy (occasionally) has is surprise, but even then the kill ratio is vastly in our favor.

  28. More importantly... by 404notfound · · Score: 1

    Can you insert a new game cartridge without removing the battery now?

    1. Re:More importantly... by blackeye · · Score: 1

      It's great, they call it a "hot-swap" game loading slot... like it's a feature that we're lucky to have.

      http://ngage.ign.com/articles/506/506283p1.html

  29. Nice city to live in by fluxrad · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's Fallujah like this time of year?

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  30. nice by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good to see the phantom is a real company after all. but...
    a 2.5GHz AMD processor, 256MB RAM and a 40GB HDD. and It comes free only if customers sign up for a two-year subscription - it costs $199 without a subscription.
    That's a lot of system for $199. How long until it gets hacked and turned into a l33t gaming box. I can't imagine making a profit on the system with a price scheme like that, so watch for Phantom related DMCA lawsuits about a month after launch. If it can be done on an Xbox, which was nice at 300, it will be done twice as fast on this 200 dollar system. Also, a few of these will most likely end up at garage sales for 20 bucks once the suburban kids want the next gamer-toy, which is a nice price for just the RAM.

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    1. Re:nice by geekoid · · Score: 1

      by the time it's realeased, the hardware will be worth about 50 bucks, OEM. QED.

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    2. Re:nice by TravisWatkins · · Score: 1

      It won't have actual sticks of RAM. Its all soldered in.

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    3. Re:nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, and they said that they were going to plastic coat everything inside...so either 1) they were BS-ing (very likely with their record) or 2) this is going to be one hard-ass box to crack...

  31. Phantom is nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    financially there is no way Phantom will be had for $200 with that $30/mo subscription. this is a tiny company that doesn't have microsoft $ to soak up losses per box so those numbers are bogus. plus what OS is being used and who wrote it?? they may have shown somthing but it's still vaporware as far as I'm concerned

    1. Re:Phantom is nothing by Incoherent07 · · Score: 1

      Now, of course, I'm sure you just forgot about the whole cell phone company-style "free with 2 year subscription" option. And if you look back a few days in the games section, maybe you'll find the specs, which involve (among other things) Windows XP as an embedded OS.

      That said, at $30 a month I'll go buy my own games.

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    2. Re:Phantom is nothing by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      financially there is no way Phantom will be had for $200 with that $30/mo subscription.

      This will be a very low spec PC (it's quite poor now, in a year or two when they might ship it will be laughable), mass produced as a unit rather than plugged together. Wouldn't suprise me if they could build it for $200-$250 (a low spec real PC is, what $400-$500 retail?). So they only need a couple of months subscription at most to break even on the hardware. After that it's all jam.

      I'd be more skeptical about them getting XP at a reasonable price to compete with the XBox. Not to mention the pressure M$ will put on games developers not to deal with them.

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  32. phantom is a pack of spammers by Indy1 · · Score: 1

    i got them terminated off ibm's hosting service about 9 months ago. Here are the spams they've sent.

    Phantom is a complete bunch of assholes that deserves to be ignored and blacklisted.

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  33. Stop Me If I'm Wrong.... by Tsali · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... and I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but doesn't the Phantom console look like the Deluxe George Foreman grill?

    If it grills my hot dogs while I'm fragging people, well, then the only thing left is a cupholder in the lap pad.

    Maybe they had the right idea all along....

    [Dennis Leary]Naaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!![/Dennis Leary]

    T.

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    1. Re:Stop Me If I'm Wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, the hot dog feature is unofficial, it comes from putting a 2.5GHz AMD processor in such a small space. we haven't worked out how to keep your drink cool yet.

  34. Hot vs. Not. by nobodyman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm curious as to what people thought were some of the more notable surprises / letdowns. I didn't spend a lot of time at the show, but here's some random thoughts:

    PSP: Clearly this was shown only because of the Nintendo DS. Someone told me that Nothing shown on the PSP looked even remotely close to being complete. I heard some analyst predicting March 05 but I think even December 05 would be optimistic. That said, I think that it has potential -- it's just too soon to tell.

    Nintendo DS: For me, this was the biggest surprise of the show. I had low expectations, and had serious doubts as to how dual screens or a touch screen could add much to gameplay. Boy was I wrong. The games they were showing were amazing. It turns out that the stylus makes FPS gaming on a handheld quite workable. For the Metroid game, you move/strafe with d-pad, and pivot/shoot by moving your stylus on the touch-pad... genious!! Even the chat program was a blast. If this thing sells for less than $150 I think it will do quite well. Very curious to see the pricetag.

    Half-Life 2: Still impressive, but you can tell that the community good-will is fading. At the demo I attended, when Gabe Newell said the release date would be sometime this summer, some guy got a few laughs by blurting out "For real this time??". Gabe was not amused.

    Doom 3 (X-Box): While I'm sure the PC version will be quite awesome, I was unimpressed by the X-box version. Obviously it can't look as good as the PC version, but it didn't even seem to set a high-water mark for XBox. Didn't seem very fun to play. Still, I'll reserve judgement for the final product.

    Chronicles of Riddick: Much like Vin Diesel's performance in Knockaround Guys, this game was surprisingly good. This could have easily been shovelware, but this is a game that could stand on its own without any licensing. Seemed like it had some innovative ideas for an FPS. It's hard to explain, but the viewpoint is more immersive. For example, you could look down and see your feet, your character casts his shadow on the wall, and a lot of little touches that gave you the environmental "perspective" of a third-person shooter.

    NGage 2: Doomed. Booth had very little foot traffic. There were always more kiosks than people (a bad sign at e3), and half the people there were Nokia staff. New form factor is better, but the hardware is the same (still underpowered) and it still feels awkward both as a phone or a portable gaming device. What is Nokia thinking?

    Nintendo showing (not including DS): Impressive, just like last year (though the konga game seems a bit silly).
    XBox Showing: Impressive, unlike last year.
    Sony showing: generally a disappointment.

    Lots of other little things (maybe I'll add to this thread later), but those are the standouts. What did you guys think was neat / lame?

    1. Re:Hot vs. Not. by fr0dicus · · Score: 1
      Doom 3 (X-Box): While I'm sure the PC version will be quite awesome, I was unimpressed by the X-box version. Obviously it can't look as good as the PC version, but it didn't even seem to set a high-water mark for XBox. Didn't seem very fun to play. Still, I'll reserve judgement for the final product.

      It looked like they have dynamic lighting and a decent framerate, as well as the usual quality of textures.... what were you looking for? It looked mightily impressive in the videos I saw of it.

    2. Re:Hot vs. Not. by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      Nintendo showing (not including DS): Impressive, just like last year (though the konga game seems a bit silly).

      So in what alternate universe did Nintendo have an impressive showing at E3 last year?

      For some strange reason they decided not to promote GBA-GC connectivity this time, I wonder why? :D

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    3. Re:Hot vs. Not. by nobodyman · · Score: 1

      They did, though not as prominently. Maybe nobody's biting? Dunno. They showed off 4 swords for the gamecube. I think that was at last years e3 but can't remember.

    4. Re:Hot vs. Not. by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      HL2
      I think the community good will is actually spiking up again after a depressing year. It all still rests on whether Valve puts out the stuff they claim is coming (SDK components, the funny little Codename Gordon "Metal Slug-life" Flash game, official steam inclusion of mods, etc.), but there is a lot more "the end is near" signs now than back in the errie silence of pre-Sept. 24 of last year.

      Doom 3 (X-Box):

      I'm a PC purist, so I can't claim to want to cripple this game by playing it on an Xbox. But I was impressed by some of the effects (the melty skin effect is sweet), and I do think it'll fairly fun to play. I think the real downer in games like this is knowing how great it could look on a PC, and having to settle for the Xbox version. It has pretty much the lowest quality of dynamic lighting that the engine runs. Bah.

    5. Re:Hot vs. Not. by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Oh, and geez: they announced that they are porting their ENTIRE line of games over to Source, giving them all new art, models, animation, effects, sounds, etc. That's a pretty darn big deal for the community, especially the Counter-Striker zealots.

    6. Re:Hot vs. Not. by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Dunno maybe less frame rate loss in the movies?

      Sure it looks nice for an XBOX and while it may end up being a fun game - it belongs on the PC and that's where it will shine.

    7. Re:Hot vs. Not. by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      That is true - I should have clarified. Last year they made a huge push, that this GBA-GC connectivity was the wave of the future, better than online play, etc. No journalists really bought it, and AFAIK sales have really been not too hot for stuff like Crystal Chronicles. So basically I was just being a sarcastic bastard. :D

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  35. Main Problem.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The main problem I have is that most of E3 itself was rendered pretty much irrelivent by the pre-show conferences by the big 3 (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo).
    After all is said and done, most people are left hyping up Halo 2, the PSP, the DS, and most of all Zelda. All of which were effectively covered in a matter of hours.
    As impressive a showcase as they can be, (Nintendos backslapping/crowd pleasing affair expecially), it appears to me that whatever happens on the show floor is being gradually curtailed by the impact of a handful of bombastic conferences

  36. Thoughts on "E3 for Everyone" ? by Brightest+Light · · Score: 1

    Did anybody else give theGuild Wars "E3 For Everyone" promotion a try? If so, what'd you think of the game?

    1. Re:Thoughts on "E3 for Everyone" ? by rpj1288 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was in it. A Elementalist/Ranger by the name of EagleR Jansen. I enjoyed it. The missions and PvP were good, and the solo area was a nice touch. The end of the event party in Town district 28 was great fun.

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  37. 2.5 ghz AMD? by Pidder · · Score: 0, Redundant
    2.5GHz AMD processor, 256MB RAM and a 40GB HDD

    AMD doesn't even have a processor that fast available afaik. They are probably talking about a processor rated at "2500" (i.e. 1.8-2.0 ghz depending on cache-size).

    1. Re:2.5 ghz AMD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      according to the infinium website, it's an XP 2500+. Here's a link to the actual specs.

  38. 2.5GHz by ImpTech · · Score: 3, Informative
    Apparently Infinium have made agreements with AMD and Nvidia to provide the processor and graphics controller. The specs seem very respectable: a 2.5GHz AMD processor, 256MB RAM and a 40GB HDD.

    I'm sure something got lost in translation here. We all know AMD doesn't have any 2.5GHz processors. Possibly they meant a 2500+, I dunno.

    Regardless, looks like the Phantom is actually just a PC under the hood with some interface for downloading games off the web. Not too terribly different from the ApeXtreme when all is said and done. Except of course that they want you to pay $30/month, which I guess isn't bad if they have a large selection of quality games with no ugly restrictions on play. That being the case, it might compare well in terms of cost/benefit to conventional systems, but I wouldn't bet money on it...

    1. Re:2.5GHz by oberon1987 · · Score: 1

      the fact is, why would people pay extra money for a worse PC that has no upragadability factor, and has big brother constantly monitoring what you do. this is going to be a failed experiment in trying to bring PC's to TV's. Does anyone remember anything else that tried to cross platform barriers. I vaguely remember something like this being tried before.

    2. Re:2.5GHz by theguitarizt · · Score: 1

      yep... 2500+. It even runs XP embedded... Specs here.

  39. The military attacked E3? by Sarth · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought it was the video games that were violent!

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  40. Re: Blanks by binarysearch · · Score: 1

    Yes, blanks can, in fact, be dangerous. I remember a comment from one of the guys responsible for the guns in the Matrix, and he commented that at close range, the force from a blank can be almost as deadly as a regular bullet. Shoot someone, at close range, with a blank, and they just might die. Not good when that person is a civilian paying your salary.

  41. Not so quick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, it still could be a VC scam... of the legal variety. What these people do is just bail out at some point selling all ownership in the company before it tanks. It's done all the time, and because there's an actual real company there, with employees and a real product, it's all (generally) legal.

    I've heard of one such person (investor/founder of companies) who would purposely make himself such a pain in the ass to everyone involved, that no one would object when he then made his move to have all his shares bought out (at a nice profit).

    Personally I'm very impressed with the Phantom's console design. It's absolutely beautiful.

    But my only concern, other than the lack of developer support, is that this being a PC based console, playing PC games... it will have to be constantly upgraded. How is that going to be handled?

  42. Is anyone else disturbed by this? by amuro98 · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that the US Army can be hired out for publicity stunts like some over-priced birthday clown?

    Aren't government agencies forbidden from private endorsement/advertising?

    What's next? Navy Seals advertising Old Navy pullovers?

    Maybe the Green Berets are available for that special corporate event?

    Lord knows the military needs the money :p

    1. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by kidgenius · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not a private endorsement. The game actually was made by the US Army. Therefore, they were endorsing themselves.

    2. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative

      "America's Army", the game, is a recruiting tool for the U.S. Army, paid for and run by the U.S. Army. Much of the operation is outsourced, but the whole point is to recruit people into the U.S. Army. "Going to the next level" has a special meaning there.

    3. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      America's Army was developed by, and is owned by, the US army itself. There was no third party involved here, the stunt was run directly by the Army.

    4. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "There was no third party involved here,"

      Yes, there was. IIRC it's Ubisoft that will eventually publishing the console version. For profit.

    5. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1
    6. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by HoppQ · · Score: 2, Funny
      Much of the operation is outsourced, but the whole point is to recruit people into the U.S. Army. "Going to the next level" has a special meaning there.


      Let me guess, at the end of a map, a talking shrub comes and says "I'm sorry Mario, but Osama bin Laden is in another castle. Go invade another country"?
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    7. Re:Is anyone else disturbed by this? by AzraelKans · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "America's Army", the game, is a recruiting tool for the U.S. Army, paid for and run by the U.S. Army. Much of the operation is outsourced, but the whole point is to recruit people into the U.S. Army. "Going to the next level" has a special meaning there.
      Uh sure can I have that X-files dvd when you are done with it?
      Sorry, I didnt want to be rude but I couldnt help myself, what you are saying actually looks like the truth to many , but if you were a bit more into games and fps in general you'd probably knew that the army actually uses FPS in their training exercises NOT because it teaches them weapon use (like the media has tried to convince us) or because they have some brain washing technology but because it allows them to create realtime battle strategies and ammo conservation (among some other things) actually full spectrum warrior was before a full classified game made for squad leaders so they can understand advance alfa-bravo zulu procedures (team1 do this, team 2 do this, at the order of zulu).

      At the last instance the game does work as a recruitment tool of sorts, but the actual reason they are giving it away for free (now that is unclassified) is because YOU paid for it with your tax dollars (you didnt thought they would use it to fix roads or build schools did you?). They SHOULD do the same with full spectrum warrior but somehow they were able to sell it to another publishing company.

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  43. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1

    Finding no information on the America's Army Honor System in the linked article, I must ask -- is the Honor System similar to the Slashdot moderation system, only for MMORPGs? How does it work?

  44. More on DS, phantom, and N-Gage by LordZardoz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was at E3 for the first two days, and I pretty much agree with your points.

    I tried the N-Gage 2 (the Q-Deck, as they call it). What will ultimately kill that thing is that playing games on it just sucks. The buttons are too close together to press individually.

    I also chose to wait in line for the DS showing. And happily, I also got to play the thing. Metroid Hunters looks pretty good, especially for a 3d game on that small of a screen (the 2nd screen is just an overhead wire frame map). Playing with the stylus is very strange though.

    Pictures of the DS exist so I wont bother describing the appearance. What it does have is 6 buttons (a, b, x, y, l, and r) plus start and select. The lower screen is pressure sensitive, and is intended to be used with a stylus. It will have wirelss communication, and will be WiFi enabled (801.11 compatible), so it will have some internet functionality. The games I tried on it were remarkably complete looking, and there were a decent number of them.

    I spent alot of time in and near the Nintendo area. Aside from the flagship games, I think that Odama (RTS Pinball, yes, thats right, RTS Pinball) will turn out to be a pretty damn good game.

    I also stopped by the Phantom booth. The damn thing does exist, and it does use a controller. The downsides is that the version they displayed had exactly 1 controller port. While network play is a good thing, they should realize that people actually do tend to have friends come over and visit once in a while. The controller is basically decent, but un-impressive. Basically a better version of the 6 button Sega Genesis controller.

    Also, as far as PC games go, one that looked pretty good was Pariah, a FPS game with vehicles. While the gameplay may be revolutionary, it does look pretty damn nice.

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  45. Only in California by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    Reader Ipingforpong writes "E3, probably the most well known video game trade show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army. Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show."

    Good thing it wasn't in another state. Imagine if it was in Idaho or Florida or Pennsylvania. These real soldiers might have gotten real caps popped in their asses.

    LK

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  46. E3 is not only about the big 3 by LordZardoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its also about the smaller, low profile suprises.

    While the big games were crowded, E3 is also the place where you can get early word of mouth about your game in the most darwinian envronment.

    I was at the show, and saw a handfull of suprises that caught my attention. As an example, Pariah (on the PC, and developed by Digital Extreemes Toronto) and Odama (Game cube RTS Pinball) were both very well spoken of by everyone who played them that I spoke to. Also, chronicles of Riddick is getting alot of good word of mouth.

    While E3 may get alot of upfront coverage from the big 3, the show lasts for 3 days, and you have plenty of time to see everything. And the lower profile games are less crowded then the big ones.

    While the top 4 games on a top 10 lists will likely be no brainers (Half life 2, Doom 3, Metroid Echos), E3 is where the gaming media figures out what the other 6 games on that top 10 list will be.

    Its also where developers get a chance to get their eyes and their hands on the competition, and can figure out if their game is able to compete. Its better to see and implement a good idea from a competitor that you saw at E3 then it is to discover a killer feature when your competition hits retail.

    While the press conferences may cover everything in advance for the public, the show is not for the public. Its for the game media, and the developers. Thats why you and the rest of the general public arent invited.

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  47. Re: Blanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They weren't carrying blanks, you can't fire them without the blank firing attachment. What on earth are you on about?

    Also the parent thread is clueless - it's not uncommon at all for soldiers to march in public with 'real' rifles.

    What's the big fuss? Cops carry 'real' firearms around in public constantly.

  48. Re: Blanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like the difference between blanks used for movies and how the military uses blanks.

    A blank-firing adaptor on a hand gun or SMG used in a movie would just not look right, so the blank rounds used for these weapons do probably shoot a wax plug or something down the barrel which, if you were close enough to, could cause damage.

    Also, you have a mass of gas moving at a high rate of speed down a relatively narrow tube that, until they've had a moment to disperse into the atmosphere, could be dangerous if you were close enough to the muzzle. Makes perfect sense to me.

  49. Recruitment by r3n0x · · Score: 0

    E3, probably the most well known video game trade show was assaulted by the U.S. Army in a promotion for America's Army. Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show. I hope they kept this honest and proceeded to beat, torture, rape and pilage their way through the crowd. I mean..... you wouldnt want to give any false impressions of the job would you?

    1. Re:Recruitment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they ran through the crowd beating, raping and pillaging it would be a false impression because the vast majority of soldiers don't and wouldn't.

      Stigmatising the US military is as pointless and unhelpful as those who stigmatise the Iraqi military or police for what went on under Saddam.

    2. Re:Recruitment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never been to E3 have you? Half the time you need to "beat, torture, rape and pilage" because they are the only way to get from one booth to the other.

  50. AMD Model Numbers vs Intel Model Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And this is exactly why Intel fanboys malign AMD model numbers while thinking the new Intel model numbers are ok. AMD model numbers are deliberately confusing where GHz is concerned (not that it really matters).

  51. Free is to much for Phantom by SteveXE · · Score: 1

    Phantom could have been a good idea, except it uses PC games. Why is that bad? Well simple really, pretty much every 6 months you need to buy some sorta hardware to keep the newest games running at full speed, even if you stretched that to a year the hardware would be outdated before your subscription was up, and im sure if you tried to end said subscription you would have to pay for the Phantom or if you wanted a new upgraded phantom you would have to pay for it.

  52. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in fact, if you combine all the money made by LOTR it's about the same as Madden Football (and that game didnt cost a zillion dollars to make)

    Have sales figures to back that up?

    A more accuate statement would be GTA, not Madden. GTA is one of the best selling VG titles of all time and that went a bit beyond $350 million in sales. There's no way Madden football, of all games, sold $900,000+ without it being WIDELY known as "the best game of all time".

  53. Everquest II was AMAZING... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NVidia demo of EQ2 was fucking incredible. That game has one of the most gorgeous looking landscapes I've ever seen. It has a truly cinematic feel. I wonder what kind of monstrous machine we'll need to run it...

    1. Re:Everquest II was AMAZING... by Qwaniton · · Score: 1

      I've found that leaving your house is cheaper :P

  54. N-Gage buttons by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 0

    The buttons might be too close together for you, but remember that a large proportion of mobile phone users are teenage (and pre-teen) kids: buttons too close together for you are probably perfect for them. Besides, there are limits to how far apart you can space buttons on a small form factor device such as a mobile phone.

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  55. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by garyok · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pretty much the Honor systems is like levels and experience points: the better you do at things like your mission, keeping your troops alive, patching up wounded soldiers and not blowing the hell out of your own team with the RPG the higher you score. Your score gets kept as experience points and you increase in Honor levels with success. Higher levels need more points needed to advance, etc. And you can lose Honor levels with Rules of Engagement violations like shooting your own team or civilians (and friendly fire detection is always on). You also get little incentives for to increase in Honor, like unlocking the Special Forces at 15 Honor and official 'Elite' servers that you need to have 25 Honor to join.

    As you sign in with an account and the official servers ban you if your Honor drops below 9 (it starts at 10) then there are very few TKers willing to put up with the crap of creating a new account all the time. Which only leaves the cheaters...

    I was hoping the Army would, you know, hunt them down and gut them - but no such luck.

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  56. The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by DroopyStonx · · Score: 1

    Before you get your mod panties all twisted up, understand that this is simply my opinion.. not intending to troll or start a flamewar here.

    It's safe to say, based on sales for the past 7 or so years, that Sony is the dominant leader in the gaming industry. Nintendo would just LOVE to reclaim this spot, but they made yet another mistake, and this time it's very similar to the one that did Sega in: they're competing against the top dog with a technologically sub-par piece of equipment.

    I'm talking about the DS.

    Until now, Nintendo has had basically NO competition in the handheld market, so there wasn't anyone to set a pace in terms of graphics and performance. The DS is supposed to go head-to-head with Sony's PSP, which is literally a portable PS2, albeit a notch under, while the DS is the spitting image of what the N64 was capable of.

    Why in the world would are they competing against Sony with a handheld system that's not even half as strong? While I don't see them taking the plunge that Sega did, I don't quite understand how they plan on maintaining dominance in that part of the market..

    There's no doubt it will have some fun games, but the technology is there, why not implement it? Why make it an N64, which is 8 years old? Why not make it a portable GameCube? IMO, the DS should've been released 3 years ago instead of the GBA, which is the equivalent of an SNES without X & Y buttons. Sure, it was better than what was out (the original Gameboy), but honestly, it was still a bit dated.

    When all is said and done, your portable choices will be literally a portable PS2 or portable N64. I REALLY have a hard time believing people will actually choose the dated graphics.

    Of course, if the PSP comes out and is $300 while the DS is something like $99, then I can understand why people would pick one over the other, but Sony wants a piece of the handheld market and I don't think they're planning on doing this with THE most expensive handheld system in the history of gaming.

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    1. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There has been plenty of competitors over the years - they all miserably failed. All of the competitors (as I recall) had systems that were technically much more powerful than then-current Gameboy system, but didn't have the game selection, didn't have the battery life, weren't as convenient, were more expensive, etc.

      Polygon count isn't all-important on a system with a 3" screen. Even with home consoles, Sony's PS2 leads, despite being less powerful than the XBox & the Gamecube.

      In addition, the idea of using the PSP to watch movies and play UMD-formatted music is just silly. Perhaps Sony's design team lacks focus? Except for having the more powerful processor, the Gamecube DS looks better & cooler than the PSP in every way.

    2. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by LordZardoz · · Score: 1

      I would say it is because Nintendo is aware that people play different sorts of games on a hand held then they do on a Console (though some overlap certaintly exists).

      You dont play Warcraft 3 on a Console.
      You dont play Mario type games on a PC.
      You dont play 'long' games on a handheld.

      People use handheld games when they are waiting, such as on a Bus / Subway, or waiting at a doctors. If you intend to play for 4 hours at a time, your first choice is not going to be a hand held.

      Also, developers of handheld games really like that they are cheaper to make then current console games. Regardless of resolution, a screen that is about the size of the palm of your hand is not going to be ideal for showing several millions of polygons. You probably dont need the higher processor power to pull off a decent looking game on that size of a screen.

      Anyway, Nintendo has placed plenty of competition from handhelds that had superior specs on paper. Sega Game Gear, The Turbo Grafix 16 hand held, the Atari Lynx, Wonderswan Color, the NeoGeo handheld, etc. Handhelds are obviously not won purely on paper specs. The higher emphasis is on price point and battery life.

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    3. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by DroopyStonx · · Score: 1

      You dont play 'long' games on a handheld.

      That's about to change. IMO, games will *eventually* evolve to the point where you don't need a TV to play anymore. Multiplayer is at the point where it's getting awkward on a TV. Split screen sucks.

      Not saying it'll happen soon, but as handhelds get more powerful and technology becomes better AND smaller... things are bound to change.

      People use handheld games when they are waiting, such as on a Bus / Subway, or waiting at a doctors. If you intend to play for 4 hours at a time, your first choice is not going to be a hand held.

      Somehow, I knew this would come up (it always does). That argument is actually pretty inaccurate. What difference does it make if you play for 30 minutes vs. 4 hours? A system is a system and a game is a game, especially when you can save. Otherwise, why would they re-release Zelda: Link to the Past, or Mario World/Yoshi's Island? Those games certainly take more than a few hours to beat. What about all the other epic titles like Breath of Fire series and Final Fantasy Tactics : Advance (which is selling QUITE well)? Those certainly aren't casual games you'd play for intervals of 5 - 10 minutes while waiting for a doctor.

      If I want to play THPS, I'd rather play a version closer to the real deal than an awkward overhead view (like w/ GBA version), and if the handheld systems are more recent, such as the DS or PSP, given the choice, I'd rather play one with a smoother frame rate and better graphics and I'm sure most others would too.

      Play THPS2 on the N64 then play a THPS title on the PS2 and tell me which you'd prefer.

      Anyway, Nintendo has placed plenty of competition from handhelds that had superior specs on paper. Sega Game Gear, The Turbo Grafix 16 hand held, the Atari Lynx, Wonderswan Color, the NeoGeo handheld, etc. Handhelds are obviously not won purely on paper specs. The higher emphasis is on price point and battery life.

      Difference here is there was never competition from a dominant competitor. Sega might've had a superior handheld in terms of technology, but they didn't have good games for it and their business strategies SUCKED hardcore. At the time, Nintendo was #1 and they had ALL the big selling titles and developers on their systems. It was a guaranteed win. The other systems pretty much don't count, as they never really became mainstream. In all my years of going to Toys R Us as a kid, I never once saw a TurboGrafix 16 handheld or Lynx game. I did see plenty of Gamegear games, but most of them sucked.

      With PSP and DS, we're talking big epic titles. Metal Gear Solid, Mario 64x4, etc.. not just simple things like Frogger/Pong.

      Another reason this it'll be different in today's industry is that the developers are now going cross platform, but some titles are only exclusive to certain consoles. While main games like Zelda and Metroid will be DS only, other titles, like THPS, will be on *both* systems.

      Let's say Tony Hawk's Underground 2 is released for the DS and PSP.. that'd be like releasing it for PS2 and N64. You KNOW which one will be better. Personally, given the choice, I'd pick the PSP version and I'm sure most other gamers would too. Again, "people use handhelds when.." is quite irrelevant here.

      I'm not saying the DS won't do good, but Nintendo certainly could've used some better technology beyond the N64 architecture.

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    4. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by Dsal · · Score: 3, Informative

      I played around with the PSP a bit at E3, and I was initially very impressed with it. The screen is especially nice and the movies playing on it looked incredible. The performance for the games really varied in quality from barely PS1 quality to almost PS2 quality.

      However, after thinking about it a while, I realized that there are some big problems with it.

      1. It's a little bit too big to be truly portable. You can't really put it in your pocket, nor is there the built in screen protection that the SP (or DS) provides. The pictures they prepared showed a bunch of people wearing it around their necks, as if that was the recommended way of transporting it. The only thing geekier than that is sidetalkin.

      2. It's going to be expensive. There is no way that piece of hardware is going to be under 200 bucks, even if sold at a loss. Look at all of Sony's other handheld products like the Clies. They are all expensive for what they are even while they have smaller screens and no internal media drive or fancy graphics processing. No Sony rep would even give me a ballpark figure of the price.

      3. The battery life is going to be a big problem. I asked someone at the Sony booth about this and you could tell the response they had prepared was very calculated. "It's 10 hours, but..." and they'd go into this spiel about how it all depends on how the developers do things and how much drive access the game has and such.

      If you've used any of the recent PDAs you know you cannot expect much more than maybe 2.5 hours of gameplay where you have a color screen, lots of on-screen action, and sound turned on. Now that's with no media drive and no memory card read/writes.

      Any PS2 equivalent game is going to use the drive almost as much as a PS2 game would, which as we all know is a lot. If you're going to have a GTA style world you will still need to stream in all the geometry and textures by hitting the disc a lot. If you're going to have the good sports game commentary audio still, you'll have to hit the disc a lot. Basically, if they are going to deliver on the promise of near-PS2 quality games, they are going to have to have games that use the media drive almost constantly.

      Running a motor is going to drain the heck out of the batteries even further, even if it's some sort of power-optimized drive. I really wonder if they can get even a couple of hours of PS2-style disc read usage out of it. Anonymous developer reports that have been posted online recently seem to confirm this problem.

      These issues seem to make the PSP barely qualified as a portable system. A lot of people might say, "Oh, well who needs over an hour or two of battery life anyways?" Anyone who actually plays their portables would instantly say, "Me." And of course, if you were actually going to want to watch a full-length movie you'll need that much battery too.

      If it's not qualified to be a portable, what is it qualified to do? If you're stuck just playing it at home while it's plugged in to a socket, why not just play a regular console game? The console systems are all going to be much cheaper than the PSP anyways, while I doubt the PSP games will be any cheaper. PS2 quality games means PS2 quality development costs which means full price games, while the consumer expects to pay less than console game prices for a portable game.

      As many past failed portables show, a portable needs to be truly portable to succeed. Being extra powerful, which seems like it could only be a plus, becomes an albatross once you don't have the battery life to support it.

    5. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by metroid+composite · · Score: 1
      Exactly the same way the Gameboy beat the better-graphics Gamegear: Cheaper. Better battery life. More games (yes more: backward compatible + roughly even third party support + better first party).

      Oh, and the DS is a reasonable step above the N64 (I've heard it called partway between the GC and N64, but I'm no expert).

    6. Re:The thing I don't get about Nintendo... by LordZardoz · · Score: 1



      Split screen may be inconvenient, but its either that or setting up a LAN for home gaming with a friend. Some of us do actually have friends over to play once in a while. And only racing games really seem to be split screen. The rest either share a screen, or have alternating turns.

      Fair point I suppose. More correctly, I should say that I dont like playing long style games on a handheld. Thats why I own a GameBoy Player.

      Well, if you saw a Turbo Grafix 16 game at all, you also saw the hand held game. Their hand held played the same media as the console.

      I disagree about the scope of games that will be put on the handheld, not from a play duration point of view, but from a development point of view. At lest at the present, the handhelds have games that are simpler to develop being released on them. The long playing games that have come out are mostly ports of SNES and NES titles on the GBA, though there certaintly are exceptions.

      Also, I will say that the experience of playing a game made for the DS (as opposed to a half assed multi platoform "it will run on that system too" port is going to be very different. The dual screens will have a huge effect on the nature of the control interface, assuming the designers adequately exploit it. A DS game is going to be a different playing experience then a PSP game. So while the dominant screen will not look as good as the PSP, the play experience may be that much better.

      Anyway, E3 demos are too pre-mature to adequately judge. Right now, its whos media spin you find more adequately beleivable. We will know which is better in practical terms about 4 to 8 months after the launches.

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  57. The Phantom may not be vaporware no more... by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1

    but IMO it is still "ghost" until I actually see it on store shelves. For some reason I just don't trust Infinuim Labs to actually deliver or succeed due to their hyper-sensitive-lawsuit-threat of reaction to HardOCP's article questioning the legitimacy of Infinuim Labs new console. Still awaiting a comment from HardOCP reaction to the appearance of the console at E3 though.

  58. Actually... by MachDelta · · Score: 1

    ...there isn't.
    Ever heard of Cliffy B?

    Half game designer. Half pimp. You either love him, or you hate him (try both, its fun!)



    (PS: If any Epic staff read this... WHY ARE YOU ON SLASHDOT?! GET BACK TO WORK! I WANT NECRIS FOR MY BIRTHDAY IN JULY DAMNIT!! ;))

  59. Re: Blanks by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 1

    Isn't that how Bruce Lee's son died?

  60. Allow me to say... by acariquara · · Score: 1

    Damn!

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  61. No Earthbound by EnderDX · · Score: 1

    E3 was alright, nothing as cool as in 2001. This year they forgot the obligatory Earthbound sequel announcement.

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  62. No news on Duke Nukem Forever ? by master_p · · Score: 1

    Are there any news on Duke Nukem Forever ? what a pity for 3dRealms. This project will cost them their credibility, if it hasn't already. I am wondering how come George Brussard does not understand it: unless the game is a quantum leap in FPS gameplay, 3DRealms will take a devastating blow in its credibility.

    At least they should have showed some new media on DNF.

    1. Re:No news on Duke Nukem Forever ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sad but true. But the truth is, 3D Realms is, well, not exactly the first game company most people think of these days. Or the second or the third or the 45th.

      What was their last big hit, the first Max Payne? Last I heard, they didn't even do that one in-house, and then they sold the franchise and let it go before the sequel came out.

      I WISH to hell they'd release something and that it would hit really big and make 3DRealms a household name again, because they have the skills and they are good people, but I don't think it's going to happen.

      DNF is the butt of jokes now. If and when it does ship, nobody will care and it will only be notable because 3DRealms will cease to exist a month later.

  63. Honor check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much Honor do you receive forthe torture of prisoners?

    1. Re:Honor check by garyok · · Score: 1

      It depends on the quality of the photos and Reuters biometric identification software.

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  64. Soldiers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Soldiers rappelled out of a real Blackhawk helicopter with real rifles and rushed the show

    ...at which point, Dmitry Skylarov shat himself.

    Oops. Wrong show.

  65. N-gage for 100 Euros. by villoks · · Score: 1

    Nokia is right now dumping the original N-Gage. It's possible to get one in Finland with 105 Euros (not subsidized). Well, that's without games. That price is extremely cheap for tri-band series 60-phone with a radio and MP3-player...

  66. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT UP

  67. America's Army: Torture Pack by Triskele · · Score: 1

    Also announced at E3 was the "Torture" expansion pack for America's Army. As every online gamer knows a lot of the fun is flaming the opposition in the game chat, settling vendettas and generally getting personal. The Torture pack takes this to the next level by letting gamers capture their opponents and force them through all sorts of humiliating and excruciating 'softening up' procedures before proceeding with the real interrogation. Gamers with a high R2I (resistance to interrogation) will not be so lightly hazed by these procedures allowing the leet gamers to stick one up their captors (shouldn't that be the other way round - Ed.). The torture is described as extremely graphic (requiring the very latest nVidia or ATI cards) and follows standard US Army procedures and is based on extensive footage researched in Iraq.

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  68. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by nerdb0t · · Score: 1

    hey FYI - in the first 6 months of 2003 Madden sold 3.5 million copies. it has sold way, way more the GTA. there are several different versions of madden (2002, 2003, 2004).

    btw - i've never played madden and i have no interest in sports games.

    i heard one of the VP's of EA talk about it at a conference a few weeks ago. freakin amazing sales numbers.

    check it out.(crappy registration req'd though)

  69. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by Reapy · · Score: 1

    No, not at all. Roe kicks are nice, but otherwise it doesnt work. When you have 70 honor to burn because you play the game all day, when you're bored and want to tk for the sniper rifle, there's nothing to stop you.

    I like it, and I like being tied to an account for accountability, but it still has some flaws.

  70. Re: Blanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't that how Bruce Lee's son died?

    Sort of. The way I remember it, they didn't have dummy rounds (that look like real cartridges but have no primer or powder), so they emptied the powder from several real cartridges and fired the primers, then reinserted the bullets. Unfortunately they missed one of the primers, and during filming that primer was sufficient to propel the bullet into the barrel. A noise was heard, but when they looked at the rounds in the gun they didn't see anything wrong because all the primers had then been fired. The gun was later loaded with blanks, but somehow the missing bullet from one cartridge went unnoticed and nobody checked the barrel, which seems to me like something they should always do when loading blanks anyway. Since the blanks were essentially every part of a regular cartridge except the bullet, as soon as one was fired it shot the bullet out of the barrel. The rest, as they say, is history.

  71. Re:Americas Army is the model for next gen online by nerdb0t · · Score: 1


    i completely agree with you - the solution is to have a graduated ROE scale.

    ie. the amount of ROE you get penalized is equiv. to the amount of honor you have. that would mean somebody with no life and 85 honor would get brutalized if he tk'd somebody - like knocked down a full honor point instead of just a few hundred ROE.