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Device for Taking Travel Notes?

the Anonymous Wanderer writes "When I go in vacations, I like to take notes and upon return write a travel story for my friends. Until now I've been using a paper notebook, but found that I'm so busy when I come back that the notebook sits for weeks or months unopened. On the other hand, I have some 'dead' time during trips and I'd like to take the notes electronically (final editing could be done upon return). I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB? Thanks, the Anonymous Wanderer."

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  1. A different option by strictnein · · Score: 5, Informative

    A calculator is always nice to have. And you can plug in a keyboard. And while you're out traveling, you can also be collecting data!

    1. Re:A different option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can get a palm zire and a keyboard for much less than that.

    2. Re:A different option by Blastercorps · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Heh, it'd be cheaper to buy a PDA.

    3. Re:A different option by mokomull · · Score: 2, Interesting
      GET A 49G+!

      Here's what it has that no TI has:
      • Secure Digital memory slot: 64 megabytes of memory is only $30!
      • Infrared (standard IrDA, except it only travels like 15cm at best)
      • 75MHz ARM9 processor (yes, seventy-five megahertz!)

      -MrM
    4. Re:A different option by ibbey · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd second a Zire (or another cheap Palm compatible), but recommend Fitaly over a keyboard. More compact then even the smallest keyboard (since it's software only), and allows extremely fast input. The current record is more then 81 words per minute. Personally, I can input text almost as fast on my Palm as I can on my PC (Granted, I'm a slow typist). Of course, this means that you can't get away from computers completely, but it's cheap, small and flexible.

      I'd probably recommend getting one with an expansion slot, so you can back up your notes in case of loss or theft. I'd also recommend you try to find an older black & white one that uses AAA batteries instead of a built-in recharger. Unless you are in extremely remote areas, I'd assume that you'd be able to find replacement batteries, and then you won't need to carry a charger. B&W also means much more life between replacement/charges. And, they're dirt cheap to boot.

    5. Re:A different option by ob0101011101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used a Palm M515 and a keyboard to record a diary every night of a 12 week bicycle tour. Each night in the tent I would type in a new entry. The palm notepad app was a bit low-tech for this (limited ot 4k entries), so I'd download a better editor like SiEd. In addition to this I used GPilotS to extract the track-logs from a Garmin (ETrex Vista) GPS. So for each day of riding, I have a ~100m spacing bread-crumb trail of where we rode. I have used this setup on subsequent tours since, and will use it again next year for a similiar 2-month ride. I backed-up every night (onto a SD card), and charged every three or four days. The palm survived the camping and constant vibration flawlessly. I wouldn't consider doing it without a full-size keyboard. I did grafitti small changes (like my beer tasting list), but for the most part a keyboard is essential. When you get home, you can simply extract the journal back to plain-ascii files ready for markup to HTML, or however you want to present the stuff. My first travel diary (for 5 month trip) took me about a year of elapsed time to type back out.

  2. You know by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are cheap pdas. And you can buy keyboards for them. I doubt you will find anything much better than a pda.

    1. Re:You know by chimpo13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That sounds like the best idea if you don't want paper. I looked into it too. Old PDA that runs off AA rechargebles and a fold-up keyboard.

      Although after screwing with it, I figure a paper notebook would be better. I like having something to screw around with. Easy to flip through, insert stuff into and something permanent. Electronic copies just aren't as neat as paper.

      When I type my travel reports, I'll be able to edit them down.

    2. Re:You know by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

      with about 60 seconds of searching on eBay (check user BuyEssex) I was able to find a Sony Clie (monochrome) PDA for under $20 and a keyboard to go with for under $1.

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    3. Re:You know by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "There are cheap pdas. And you can buy keyboards for them. I doubt you will find anything much better than a pda. "

      Get one with a voice recorder then use the keyboard on your pc. And before everybody comes by saying "Why not use a tape recorder?", think about what a PITA it'd be to scroll around an audio tape instead of clicking on a filename.wav with a time and date stamp that can be renamed to anything you like.

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    4. Re:You know by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "You'll need a monster pda to have enough memory to record your travel diary as .wav... (even at shitty 11khz 8bit mono so bad you can barely recognise your own voice)..."

      You bring up a good point, but I don't think you meant to. Pocket PC's used compressed audio. I don't remember the data rate, but it's pretty darned low. And I have personally used a PocketPC this way so I can personally verify it works just fine.

      So what's the good point you inadvertently brought up? Desktop PCs don't come with the codec, and the audio recordings don't automatically sync to the PC (?!) so you have to manually back them up. You can find the codec, and you can manually back it up, but I do want to stuff my foot in MS's ... for that little oversight.

      These aren't "No!!! Don't do it!" reasons, but more like "pay attention or you could lose important stuff" reasons. If I got back into that type of work again, I'd still use a PocketPC for that purpose.

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    5. Re:You know by LoztInSpace · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right. Depending on where in the world you go, paper can have advantages. In certain parts of the world it can be great to have your precious notes in an essentially valueless form. Even if you don't find yourself bargaining with a mugger for your possesions, just leaving stuff in hotels can be hazardous but a notepad rarely proves tempting. Even just having a quite drink can draw unwanted attention if you're clicking away at something.
      That said, I wish I'd had the facilities to record sounds - markets, rainforests, etc. as well as pictures. The ability to upload piccies & stuff to home regularly would be a great boon too - not that it's happened to me yet, but losing your holiday films is pretty crap.

  3. Tandy by speleo · · Score: 5, Informative

    You want a Tandy WP-2 or Radio Shack Model 100. Go here: http://www.8bit-micro.com/wp2wp3.htm

  4. Solution by VAXGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here's the solution for your problem: just get a really expensive notebook (executive journal). This way, you'll have spent enough money to actually feel bad not using it, and you'll actually save money not buying a stupid electronic device just to jot down some words.

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    1. Re:Solution by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "and you'll actually save money not buying a stupid electronic device just to jot down some words. "

      I really hate when people get modded up for saying "do it the old fashioned way!" Not only is it not the nerd/geek way, but it's also a cheap shot at gaining a +5 Insightful.

      Never mind that PDA's are smaller than journals, that it's hard to organize what you've got since a journal is sorted only in chronological order, that there's value in having digital backups, and the other benefits of having tools such as voice recorder, no no no, the oversimplified pen and paper answer is the real solution to his problem.

      Why don't you use a little brain power to help this guy instead of trying to gain karma by making this guy's request sound non-sensical?

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    2. Re:Solution by instarx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I really hate when people get modded up for saying "do it the old fashioned way!"
      So sorry that everyone does not look at solving a problem the same way you do. Why don't we just get everyone to stop posting and then we can save time by simply reading what you have to say on the matter.

      Why don't you use a little brain power to help this guy...
      The original poster was looking for a possible solution to a problem. It may very well be that he has already found the best solution with paper and pen. In spite of your own techno-bias I suspect paper and pen may actually be the best solution in this case. I have found that the people who actually have the most brain power are those willing to consider all possibiliites, including the traditional. Recommending paper and pen IS helping the guy. It is helping him to not spend hours of his vacation time typing in text on a keyboard and hunting for batteries DURING his vacation.

      Not only is it not the nerd/geek way, but it's also a cheap shot at gaining a +5 Insightful.
      Thank you once again for a definitive statement about what others should be doing and thinking. As for karma whoring, you are the only one who seems to be overly concerned about karma points.

  5. Huh? by jargoone · · Score: 5, Informative

    You want an electronic device, that has a keyboard, you can type on, but is not a laptop or a PDA? Is there a punchline here?

    Christ, buy a Palm IIIe and a keyboard from eBay. Way less than $50. If that's too expensive, stick with your notebook and buy a scanner.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      the reason you're confused is that he has more requirements: he wants to get away from computers for the whole time.

      so, be thinking more along the lines of a clay tablet he can chisel, but it's also a sundial.

    2. Re:Huh? by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      This guy strikes me as someone who would walk into a deli and say:

      "I'll have a BLT, hold the bacon and lettuce, and don't DARE give me a tomato sandwich!"

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    3. Re:Huh? by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm.. You're not going to believe this, but just today I ordered a BLT for lunch. The question I get? "Do you want lettuce and tomato on that?" I jokingly said 'No' (thinking it was a joke) and he served me Bacon, Cheese and mayo on bread. :-)

      I now return you to your regularly scheduled doldrums...

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      - Charles Darwin
    4. Re:Huh? by Nasarius · · Score: 3, Funny

      But the clay tablet also has to implement USB, which could be difficult.

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    5. Re:Huh? by magarity · · Score: 2, Funny

      I once ordered a hot ham and cheeze and was asked if I wanted cheeze on it. I pointed out that would make it just a hot ham. The worker told me so many people get mad about the cheeze that they didn't ask for when ordering a "hot ham and cheeze" by name that she now asks everyone even though she agreed it was a pretty stupid question.

    6. Re:Huh? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2, Funny
      Does it count if we suggest a pencil with some blue and red LEDs? And a piece of paper?

      Or, maybe pencil and paper, then use you digital camera to picture it and recycle the paper.

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    7. Re:Huh? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For fuck's sake guys, we're supposed to be helping him. I know exactly what he means - paper is impractical due to the lack of editing, copying, sorting etc capability. A PDA is not great to type on since you can't do anything long on a touchscreen and folding keyboards (generally) suck. A laptop is too heavy, too expensive and absolute overkill for this task. He thought that maybe a community of geeks would know something that had the advantages of digital without the problems mentioned in the devices above - just because you or he hadn't heard of the solution doesn't mean it's impossible. While you sat there complaining that he tried to take advantage of our wide and diverse collective knowledge, someone else actually came out with the perfect solution, and it isn't a laptop OR a PDA.
      [/rant]

    8. Re:Huh? by l810c · · Score: 2, Funny
      I hate this routine every time I order Dominoes:

      (me)I'll have a small Pepperoni pizza
      (them)Medium
      (me)HUH?
      (them)We don't have small, only medium and large
      (me)How can you have a medium without a small, medium means your mid-size pizza
      (them)HUH?
      (me)Never mind, just give me the smallest pizza you have
      (them)medium
      (me)whatever

  6. oh no! by davidmcn · · Score: 3, Funny

    This sounds like one of those people that sends the annonying 10 page email out to a list of their 50 closest friends detailing all the event on their vacation! Save us! Someone please! :)

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  7. Alphasmart! by harrkev · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try here: Alphasmart. They even have many models which will work off of AA batteries.

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    1. Re:Alphasmart! by nova20 · · Score: 2, Funny
      They even have many models which will work off of AA batteries.

      I *have* to get my mind out of the gutter.

      /nova20

    2. Re:Alphasmart! by C.+E.+Sum · · Score: 2, Informative

      It definatley depends on what you want to do with it.

      First thing, the AlphaSmarts are available on ebay (usually for $200). I'll sell you one for $100 if you want :)

      Secondly, if you only goal is to write text without worrying about weird UI's, crashing, etc, this is the machine for you. If you want to be able to use Palm software, do other stuff, the Alphasmart isn't a good deal. It's one of those "pick one thing and do it well" kinds of products.

      I am very happy with my 15" Powerbook, and not unhappy with my Treo 270, but neither of them would be very good at taking travel log notes in the same way the Alpahsmart would.

      When I travel, I tend to write email to my friends, and the AS would be great for that too. A good fraction of the cybercafes I've been too (in Eastern Europe, India, Australia, the US) have accessible USB ports. Since pasting from the AS is just submitting keystrokes from what looks to the PC like a USB keybaord, it would be pretty trivial to pre-write your email and then send it off in much less time (and maybe much fewer smoke-filled breaths :) than if I had to type it myself.

      It's NOT good for everything, but for what it's designed to do, it works really well.

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  8. Cell phone text messaging by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative
    You may want to consider using a cell phone that opens up into a keyboard. (The Nokia 6800 is a nice choice). This would allow you to send text messages to your email address. Some of these keyboard cell phones are really cool.The Nokia 6800 opens into a QWERTY keyboard and works quite nicely. I've used it and was surprised at how fast I could enter text.

    Happy Trails!

    Erick

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  9. Here's a suggestion by metlin · · Score: 5, Informative

    If too expensive is the reason you do not want to carry a laptop or a PDA, then I strongly suggest you get one of those el-cheapo Palm Vx's off eBay for like $20 or something.

    You can also get a foldable portable palm keyboard for less than $5.

    It's really portable and quite comfortable to type in too.

    I always carry these around when I go wandering -- they are good companions in the wilderness (read books, take notes etc) and you can read them in the dark too (they come with a back-lit display).

    Besides, using them does not make you feel like you are using a computer-ish device, just think of them as nothing more than advanced note-taking tools with alarm clocks and games :)

    And oh, if you are the type who hikes/climbs mountains etc., you could hook up a GPS to your Palm to look up directions using something like Cetus GPS - that way you have a GPS tool, alarm clock and a note-taking tool all bundled into one.

    1. Re:Here's a suggestion by metlin · · Score: 2, Informative

      My room-mate has Linux installed on his IPaq and carries that around, with a small portable keyboard.

      Here's a how-to on installing Linux on an IPaq and here's the keyboard for it.

      I hear that there are also IR versions of these things that've come out, but I've not seen one yet.

  10. Why Not A PDA? by datastalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Travel Clock + KeyBoard + Memory + USB = PDA If you're worried about cost, a Zaurus SL-5000D or SL-5500 can be gotten on eBay for a reasonable price. Of course, if you're not concerned about price, then the Treo 600 would do what you need, and comes with a (albeit poor) camera.

  11. The more they over-tink the plumbing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Your notebook and pen will likely never fail you, won't break if you drop it, will cost little to replace if someone steals it, and you're more likely to actually use it on your trip.

    But this is slashdot, so let's discuss electronic toys we can add to our debts. We like paying for things after they've become landfil.

  12. no PDAs? by mikeee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not sure why you're ruling those out. An obsolete Palmpilot (say, a Vx) with an external keyboard will fit the bill nicely, down to being a decent alarmclock, too.

  13. Eh? by jdbarillari · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB?

    This almost sounds like a troll -- "I don't want to carry a PDA, but I want a device with a keyboard and USB. A travel clock with a keyboard? What universe are you from?

    Anyway, I recommend getting a cheap early-model Palm Pilot (circa $100 or so, especially if you get 'em used) and a keyboard. I used the Palm m500 and a Logitech keyboard (about $75, less used, I assume) to write a travelogue on a trip this summer. The battery life on the plam impressive, and if you lose it, you're only out less than $200. Or much, much less if you buy used.

    One caveat: the accuracy on those tiny keyboards sucks. Expect to spend some time cleaning up yuor speling on your home pc.

  14. a phone by riffenator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    like a sidekick

  15. Sony U70 by konfoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.dynamism.com/u70/

    Seems like just the ticket - but it may empty out your wallet considerably. I've used the U101 a lot when travelling for everything to photo editing, dv editing, notes, watching movies on 10 hour plane flights, or wifi net connectivity -- but the U70 (although the 800x600 screen seems too small for my liking) seems more flexible / portable.

  16. I recommend... by All+Names+Have+Been · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recommend this device. Small, relatively lightweight, not a PDA or notebook, and is called Stallman. What more could an aspiring Slashdot geek want?

    It is, however, missing your travel clock and USB connectivity requirements.

  17. Palm + mini keyboard by zerosignal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You say you don't want a PDA, but it sounds like that's exactly what you need. You can get a basic Palm and a mini keyboard for under $100.

  18. Seriously...nothing like a Digital Camcorder by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB? Thanks, the Anonymous Wanderer.

    A camcorder may not have a keyboard, and may not be easy to take notes on - but believe me, there's nothing like audio+video to make a memorable/enjoyable memoir of your trip.

    I never thought of a camcorder (usually $300+) as a worthwhile investment, but my recent experiences changed that view - my parents're visiting and they've got a camcorder along (Sony, about $500.00, I think).

    Nothing beats a camcorder to take audio/visual notes including a running commentary. It's even fun to plug it back in to the computer and edit it and relive the memorable portions of the trip later. Give it a try.

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  19. Calculscribe by rodgling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Try the calcuscribe. Light, small, fullsize keyboard and runs for months off three AA batteries. Oh yeah, and it connects via the keyboard port so it works with everything.

    On the downside, they're staggeringly overpriced ($240) for a keyboard + flash memory + LCD screen.

  20. Okay...so you essentially don't want a solution? by Grandmaster+Mort · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to turn your notes into an electronic format, then you WILL need to use a computing device. SURPRISE!!! You're just being lazy if you don't translate what you've written down on paper to a word processing program on a computer to store and potentially print out later.

    It just appears to me that you're being a whiny little bitch for 2 reasons:
    1) if you use paper, then you're bitching about how you need to spend extra time on transferring it to a computer
    2) if you use a laptop or PDA, then you're bitching that it's "too expensive"

    I think you need to be realistic in your expectations and then just make up your fucking mind in light of those realistic expectations.

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  21. From reading the article......... by xintegerx · · Score: 4, Funny

    If the notebook is so boring after the trip that you don't even want to subject your own mind to reading it, why the hell do you think anybody else would care?

    Sorry, I am just being very straightforward.

  22. Psion! by WegianWarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm seriously in love with my trusty old Psion Series 5 for writing stuff on - I mean, the odd short note is fine to do on the Palm M130 I got, but nothing can beat the Psion for datainput. True, it has only a serial conector, but then, nothing is perfect. A Psion 5MX or a Revo might be just what you need.

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  23. Psion 5 to the rescue! by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have the Visor with the collapsible keyboard and I used to take that with me for my travel writing and although it worked ok it kept crashing like crazy. I bought a Psion 5 on eBay and it ROCKS! Comes with a keyboard ( a little small but usable ) built in voice recorder. Notably it takes a standard CF card and I shoved a 40 something meg card into it. It comes with reasonable versions of Word, thesaurus, spell checker, etc and it works great. I even have an Ethernet adaptor for it.

    You can see see the eBay Psion 5 stuff here. Runs on two AA batteries. I wouldn't have thought to get one but I got the recommendation from Robert Young Pelton author of the World's Most Dangerous Places. If it's good enough for him....

  24. alphasmart by srobillard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out a thing called the alphasmart.

    http://www.alphasmart.com/

    it has all the features you are looking for.

  25. PDA by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dude... ok, call me an ASS, but this is EXACTALLY the point of a PDA.

    As for expensive, what exactally IS your budget? Sure there ARE $500 PDA's, but there are also $50 PDA's. You can't justify your avoidance on cost and I personally think the "I like to get away from computers...." arguement is rediculous. If you were a bus driver, this would be equivilent to saying you want to go on vacation, without being subject to a car/bus/whatever-can-be-driven.

    Hell, if its notess you want, get a $10 mini-cassette recorder, and just talk into it. It will be much easier to deal with then pen and paper anyway.

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  26. Away from computers? by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB?

    If you want to be away from computers, use pen and paper to take your notes, like all those guys wearing flannel shirts at your local Starbucks. If a device has USB, keyboard and memory, it's a computer according to the classic definition with embedded software - just as any PDA, but more limited. So... why not to use the PDA anyway?

  27. Pick one by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 4, Informative

    You want to be away from a computer, but you want an electronic way to take notes? Does Not Compute.

    Honestly, get yourself a Palm and the Palm UT Keyboard or even the wireless IR keyboard they sell. OK, so it's electronic. It's still the most convenient you'll find, and has a ton of other features as well. Like reading ebooks on the plane on the way to your vacation, then taking notes while on the vacation, then playing games on the way back from your vacation. It works out quite nicely. :-)

    These guys can give you great advice on which model you want to get. They've reviewed just about every handheld in existence.

    Disclaimer: I am one of "those guys". :-)

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  28. Bwah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What you describe is a PDA or notebook, or some bastard version of the same.

    Is this "I am bored so lets ask /. stupid questions"?

    That said if you really want to get away from computers for your vacation, get a dictation recorder (not sure on proper english term). You know the devices people used to use to dictate letters etc for their secretaries to write up. Digital storage versions existed last time I checked. Take voice notes, then transcribe later. Maybe you could even hook it up with some speech recognition software.

  29. Are digital cameras and camcorders better? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

    I take a regular film camera with slide film, since I have a kodak slide projector with a top mounted slide charger (with cable remote!).

    No one ever shows up for my slide shows, however.

    Do other people bother to look at your digital travel photos and/or videos?

  30. Voice- faster notes by snoochyboochy · · Score: 4, Informative

    On our recent honeymoon in NZ I used a USB MP3 player with a mic to record short notes. Worked great, got lots of ambient sounds to go with the pics, plus now I'll always know how dorky I sound in person....

  31. outsource by lordrhett · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just use a little microcassette recorder and outsource the transcription to India.

  32. Tape recorder? by JonMartin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or the digital equivalent. Something small that you can carry in a pocket. Pull it out whenever you want to take some notes. You can do improv stuff or record a more organized daily summary. And you can grab sounds from the environment. Nothing connects people more than the sound of voices (particularly if the voice is of a friend or relative). Instead of describing the ocean with words, just record "I'm at the ocean. Listen." When you get back to a computer all you have to do is encode it and put it on the web. You can probably do that at Internet cafes while you travel.

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  33. What about a tape recorder? by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why not get a tape recorder and use voice recognition software?

    I remember seeing the olypus digital recorder comming bundled with software and connecting wires.

  34. Alphasmart is a great product by uglyMood · · Score: 2, Informative

    My wife is a novelist, and has used her Alphasmart for years. She loves it. It's lightweight and easy to type on.

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    1. Re:Alphasmart is a great product by C.+E.+Sum · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would say that they are generally reliable, though not indistructable. I have an AlphaSmart 3000 that my wife used to take notes all through law school.

      Physically, the 3000 is a small full-sized (or nearly so) keyboard with a 4x80 (I think) character cell display. It runs FOREVER on 4AA batteries and can paste text to a PC or Mac via USB or IR. (Some models ISTR have different connectors). No pasting mode is quick (19.2kbaud?), but it works just fine.

      The pastica case is relatively tough, and if not beautiful, at least not butt-ugly. My wife essentially tosed it in her backpack for 3 years and it had 0 problems as far as I know. It is probably not waterproof, but I would not fear it geting damp or even a bit of rain on the outside. It has few phsyical ports onit for junk to get inside, and no moving parts other than the keyboard.

      My only reservation for travel work is that it's not exactly small. It is relative light (700g?), but it will take up as much space as a very portable laptop.

      If you have room for it, though, it would make a great travel log. The text editing software works reasonably well (more featurers than pico, fewer than Wordpad/TextEdit).

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  35. Why write notes? by Sean80 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Why write notes when you can hear yourself talking! Maybe I'm missing the point of the question, but wouldn't it be easier to buy one of those cool digital voice-recorders, and later write the notes from that, when you get home? I understand you can even get ones that will download content onto a PC at the end of the day.

    Been meaning to buy one for myself for ages. Especially in the traffic in the morning, when I have a bright idea, hell of a lot easier to speak it than write it down.

  36. stop hiding form the solution by wastedbrains · · Score: 2, Insightful

    a PDA is not to expensive you can find them for 100 bucks. Your not going to get away from a computer... if you having a keyboard plugged into any type of device that is a computer. You can use the pda for nothing but typing if you want to be away from the computer. Also install nothing else on it and you will be unlikely to use it for anything but typing. It would offer you the best solution of typing editting (if you want) and portability if you plug a keyboard into it. This is part of what PDA where made to do. Your asking for a solution to a problem that doesn't involve the correct solution. (I want to paint a wall red, using only non red paint... it can be done, but there is no reason to make it more complicated than nessary by requiring mixing paints and such....)

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  37. One option not mentioned yet by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why does it have to be written? It sounds like since you were writing it down on pen and paper you had todo lots of transposing already.

    Why not invest in an mp3 recorder and use it to keep an audio journal of your vacation.

    Then when you come home you can just sit down and listen to the entries and use them to write your story.

    Firstly, mp3 recorders and the memory they use are cheap.
    Secondly, it's alot smaller and lighter than a pen / notebook.
    Thirdly, if your've near the right facilites you could even upload your log entries to a server just in case you use lose the thing.

    You could even setup a webpage so your friends and family to co surf to your site and listen to your log entries.

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  38. My Experiences... by bobej1977 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I had a similar dilemma, where I used to carry pen and paper around to make notes or write down observations. Innevitably, these notes all end up in a box in my closet which I'm sure I'll lug around until the end of time without ever seriously going through. Upon buying a PDA, I realized that electronic notes are just as bad, in that, I still needed to weed through them, and they lacked the visceral context that a pen & paper provides (small spills, crumpled pages, shaky writing) which I found I enjoyed quite as much as the text. I then tried using my cellphone, which got back some of the context (noisy bar, excited voice, 3am) but put me deeper into the transcribing hole.

    In the end, I'm back to pen and paper and decided that if it isn't important enough that I'm not willing to transcribe it, then off it goes to the 'black hole of ideas' box. Maybe when I die, someone will edit and publish it. More likely, it will mislead a future team of archealogists into thinking we were all a bunch of crazy bastards.

    I'd try the phone thing though, if you're traveling locally. Get familiar with a sound editor and you can give your audience something a little cooler than text.

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  39. Got iPod? by hondo77 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're taking along an iPod (and I have no idea if you are or not), how about getting an iTalk to go with it and dictate your notes?

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  41. Take a look here... by black6host · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Try taking a peek at a calcuscribe. Might be what you're looking for...

  42. Psion series 5 by ColourlessGreenIdeas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They don't make them any more, but they're great. Find an old one on E-Bay. Great keyboard, runs for over a month on a pair of AA batteries, about twice as big as a palm.It can take CF cards for storing things. No USB, but the sync software works over serial or infra-red, or you can get a CF USB adapter.

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  43. Re:PDA != Evil Technology by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2, Funny

    She actually printed out my emails and had a bookbinder friend of hers bind them into a journal. It was a really touching gift when I got back.

    and that, /., is the definition of sappy love.

    *barf*

  44. Buy one of these.. by scrubmuffin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/5c3 8/

    Write all of your notes in your notebook then when you get back, just throw away the notebook.

  45. I have the perfect device! by ArcticCelt · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have the perfect device for you my friend:

    Cheap, not really a computer and with a keyboard! It's called a P-P-P PowerBook

    Where do you want me to ship it?

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  46. Use your digital camera for timestamps by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In addition to keeping your notes, make sure your digital camera (if you have one) is set to the correct time and take lots of pictures. Even the photos you don't use will give you the date and time of the highlights of your visit. This lets you enjoy the sights without being a slave to your watch.

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  47. Poqet or Psion by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative
    Another option is an old Poqet PC. It was a PC-XT in a package the size of a VHS cassette, and runs for days on a couple AAs. It's not as easy to type on as a "Model T" (as the TRS-80 100's are affectionately known), but it's smaller and has a 80x25 character screen. You can easily run the DOS text editor of your choice (or even WordPerfect 5.1) on it, and transfer files via serial or PCMCIA cards.

    I'd also suggesting looking at Psion's old PDAs (Series3, Siena, Revo), which were even smaller, had reasonably good keyboards, and excellent software that you can also use for tracking your schedule, calculating exchange rates, storing phone numbers, etc. This is what I've usually used as a travelling companion... except for the times when I really wanted to get away from the 'tronics, and instead used a notepad of paper and a pencil for keeping a journal.

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  48. One word . . . by Goronguer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Typewriter.

    Seriously. Get an old mechanical typewriter. They have relatively small ones that come in their own briefcase-like case. I'm sure you can pick one up dirt-cheap at a thrift shop or antique store.

    You'll feel really hip and literary typing up your travel notes on an actual typewriter. Then when you get back home, scan your typewritten pages into your computer with through an OCR program, clean it up a bit, and you're good to go.

  49. Nokia Digital Pen by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Nokia Digital Pen could be the answer to your prayers.

    It can store up 100 A5 pages...

    I haven't tried it myself, but I would love to.

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  50. Ah, the perfect solution! by CarrionBird · · Score: 4, Funny

    All he needs is a P-P-Powerbook! Infinite battery life too!

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    1. Re:Ah, the perfect solution! by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Funny

      So you're saying a Powerbook isn't a computer?

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    2. Re:Ah, the perfect solution! by superdaver9999 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you're not going to read Slashdot on Sunday how do you expect to get the jokes on Monday? Sheeesh.

  51. I have a similar question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I like to do spacewalks, but I don't like taking a cumbersome and expensive spacesuit with me. Is there some low-tech solution to keeping oxygen in my lungs and pressure surrounding my body? Like a fishbowl attached to a bag?

  52. Logitech digipen by Annirak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously... Dump the keyboard requirement and use the digital pen. It has built-in hadwriting recognition and will keep a memory of everything you write with it. It's not a computer--at least in the sense you meant--so it should fit the bill.

  53. Re:Hate to tell you... by srussell · · Score: 2, Insightful
    My recomendation is to look on ebay for a first or second generation Windows CE devices

    A first or second generation PalmOS device with a keyboard would be better for travel. The PalmOS devices could run literally for months without a recharge and some took AAA batteries, which are easily replaced while on the road. WinCE devices -- especially the first and second generation devices -- were notorious battery hogs, and that's bad news when you're on vacation.

    Having a built-in keyboard, rather than a foldable external one, is nice, but I'd trade it for extended battery life if I were using on vacation. I'd also rather have a more normal-size, foldable keyboard than a thumb-pad if my primary use of the device is writing a log.

  54. Most are missing the obvious answer... by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not get a voice-recorder that supports voice-to-text conversion?

    Nothing simpler than just speaking your notes into a tiny electronic device, then have a speech-to-text converter "type" it into your favorite word processing program.

    I use one from Olympus that has really good record time/battery life.

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  55. Couple of ideas... by rusty0101 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have, and have used, a Tandy 200. Connect via serial port, dump the data. This, as well as the Tandy 100, plus the WP-1, and other varients are really primarily text entry devices today, though they have the ability to be somewhat more. (I know the Tandy's come with a rudimentary spreadsheet, as well as a database. Not sure on the WP-1)

    The biggest problem is going to be cost. For what they do, they are very expensive for the casual user. If you are a reporter, or freelance writer who can get a lot of use out of one of these, I would say go for it.

    Folding keyboards for Palm and PockPC devices are reasonably comfortable for most people to enter text with. I am not fond of the thumbpads for entering text, but if you are comfortable text messaging on a cell phone, or with a Blackberry, you might want to take a look at a Zaurus 5500, which has been comming down in price.

    If you prefer to "write" there are notepad data entry devices for the various PDA's as well.

    Further on the "write" path is the data pen that keeps track of the movement of the pen and then downloads it via a USB port. I do not know how much memory they have, and would suspect that they are designed around taking notes at a meeting, vs. keeping track of the two week trip to Tibet.

    If you don't mind a piece of electronics, but want to stay away from a computer/pda, you might want to look into a small typewriter. Type your notes, then when you get home scan them, OCR the scanned text, and post the results.

    You may also find that whatever hotel you stay at as you are visiting have typewriters available for guests. This may not be handy when riding on the train and the muse strikes you, but you could use such to transcribe whatever notes you have taken into something you can scan.

    For that matter, you could just do as you are, with the itterative step of scanning in your current notes, posting them as images, then manually typing the notes and decide if you want to have both the original scan and the text, or one or the other.

    Another variation on that if you happen to have a cammera with a macro lens, or even a cell phone with a built in camera, would be to take photos of your notes that you can post along with whatever photos you take of the area. This would be also handy for keeping track of what you are photographing. This would work also with a film camera, but you would have the additionall wait involved in getting it developed and scanned in. Though some camera shops will allow you to get the pictures on disk or CD instead of or in addition to the prints.

    Lastly you can also find digital voice recorders that you can dump the recorded audio to a computer at a later time. Memory costs dropping have really improved the amount of time you can record on these with. You might also contemplate the same with a DV camera.

    Just some ideas, others will have more.

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  56. Re:I recomend the Egotron 2000 by C.+E.+Sum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Heh.

    Been ther eon both sides of the issue.

    Honestly, the biggest reason to write the stuff down (in my mind) is for yourself. It's FUN to go back through your old travellogs and find all sorts of "Oh! I had totally forgot about that time we were in X and Y happened."

    One thing that would be kind of unfun about not having a notebook though is that pictures are a nearly universal language. When I look at my travellogs, they're filled with all sorts of hand-drawn maps, clocks with hands drawn on them, etc.

    Which is not to say that you couldn't have both an electronic note-taking device and a notebook, but ...

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  57. Re:Pocket PC + Voice Recorder by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " Every time I add some new story ideas, I quickly go read up on how few writers actually make a living writing and how hard it is to live on a poverty level."

    Perhaps that's the way it is. But if you write something in your spare time and get it published, you start getting a fairly regular check for a while. Content is an interesting way to generate income. Doing it exclusively, though, is a bit worrisome. I wouldn't call it futile.

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  58. CrossPad by enigmae22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Try out a crosspad, I bought one of these things about 4 years ago, and it was awesome, just a pad of paper, a pen (RF no less) and a clip-board type interface. Then you hook it up via serial port and use IBM's digital Ink program to convert your chicken scratches to e-text. It was a little expensive and mine is collecting dust now but it was essential when i was in college collecting notes etc... The one problem was that there wasn't an eraser, however this was offset by the ultra-cool pen, that takes a aaaa battery, i never knew they got that small. I would imagine you could pick one up off ebay for not too much money, or use the newer nokia pen thing, which i think is pretty slick, however it might have it's own issues.

  59. Jornada 820 by corporate_ai · · Score: 2, Informative

    I love my Jornada 820. Windows CE device with full laptop keyboard, 8.2 inch 640x480 vga screen, built in v.90 56k modem and an 8 hour battery. For writing, nothing does better.

    I picked one up on eBay two years ago for around $250 and it is worth every penny. Not a lot of options for upgrade since the OS is on a ROM but I wouldn't trade mine for anything.

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  60. TRS-80 by abrinton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like what you need is a Trash-80. It'll take notes and it's ancient enough that you really won't feel like your using a computer! Also, it's not flash enough to attract attention when travelling. A quick homemade serial interface when you get home and you're formatting in Word before you know it!!

  61. MP3 or Voice Recorder and Dragon Speak Software by nyc_paladin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not get digital voice recorder or a MP3 Player that can record voice memos? Then transfer the recordings using dragon natural speak to convert it to a word document? If you already have an MP3 player see if it will allow you to record voice memos. Sounds easy to me and keeps your hands free during your trips.

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  62. Logitech IO Digital Pen by sabNetwork · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe the Logitech io Digital Pen is the only device that satisfies your requirements. I can't give you a recommendation because I haven't tried it myself. Epinions has a couple reviews as does ZDNet

    It's about $160, plus the price of a compatible journal.

  63. 386 laptop on ebay by Darth+Cider · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a friend who bought a 386 laptop on ebay for exactly your purposes. Cost about $25 and worked out wonderfully for her.

  64. p-p-p-powerbook? by shallow+monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could try the p-p-p-powerbook...

  65. Nokia 3650 driver works with Palm keyboard by yelvington · · Score: 2, Informative

    Symbian phones can use Palm keyboards. Note that the Nokia 3650 is a GSM world phone, so you can take notes (and send email) from pretty much anywhere.

  66. don't cheap out ! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Go for the high-cost, and highly satisfying option of a sexy personal secretary. One who can take care of all typing needs, as well as any other needs you may have while travelling (or not).

    Trust me on this.

  67. Depending on Size by Jameth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have to plug the AlphaSmart 3000 here. I have one, and it is great. The only downside is that it isn't collapsible, so it's about 12x8 inches. If all you want to do is type, it will do that, as it has a keyboard. It holds a good amount of text (a bit over 80 pages at 80 chars wide).

    The real advantage is that it gets at least 500 hours on three AA batteries. For me, that is a lifesaver, because I absolutely hate charging things and have a tendency to forget to do so (particularly while travelling).

    Also handy, It can output over USB or a printer cable, and can send to any computer because it can emulate a USB keyboard and just type really frickin' fast.

    I expect you want something smaller than that, as it is close to laptop size. It costs about 300 dollars, which is unfortunate.

    Unfortunately, Motorola is refusing to release the specs on the chip, so you can't program your own applets for it. It's only ever good as a word-processor and a primitive calculator, but that's all many people need.

    Also unfortunately, the company which makes them doesn't seem to want to make a smaller one, although it can't be too difficult. I've looking inside there: it has almost nothing in it. If they would make one with a smaller screen and a stowaway keyboard, I would be in heaven.

  68. How about an old Newton eMate? by Mr.+Protocol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Newton eMate, (very) dead technology from Apple, is available for cheap on eBay. It's very rugged, having been designed for kids. It has a built-in keyboard and no disk drive (FLASH RAM instead). It runs for hours and hours on a charge. The LCD display is shock-mounted and highly readable in direct sunlight. It doesn't wash out, it just gets easier to read. There's a backlight too. And it's very light.

    It's fun to use one of these on a long plane flight. After two hours, everyone else is either changing batteries or folding their laptops. After four hours, the battery-changers are folding up, and you're the only one still typing.

    It doesn't have USB. Its only interface is serial. But the Palm Desktop software for the Mac, which is Claris Works in disguise, will export documents from the eMate either as ASCII text, or to Word.

  69. Re:Like the old Apple eMate by Jonathan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was a Newton. Jobs killed the Newton division shortly after he came back to Apple, partly due to poor sales (although they were picking up), and partly because the Newton division had close ties to former Apple CEO Scully (the guy who forced out Jobs the first time).

  70. Why not a hiptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not a Danger hiptop. It's a phone, PDA, HTML web browser, has AIM, does pop email (pushed down to you, you don't have to explicitly check emails) and includes a handy notes type program. You could also type notes into your e-mail or blog on the go. It has a full qwerty keyboard and the T-Mobile version (aka sidekick) is available for $70 (after rebates) from Amazon (if you get new service). Unlimited data access for $20 with any voice phone plan. There's even a telnet/SSH application you can snag for $10. The kicker is that the only way to backup your data is when it is automatically synced when connected to the GPRS network... so if you're not in or going to be in an area where T-Mobile (or whichever carrier you'd go with) has data coverage and the battery dies, then you're notes or email drafts will be history. But as long as your in a coverage area, it's great!

  71. cheap? by zogger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What you want doesn't seem to exist. if you only want to drop a few dollars on something practical, especially for camping and for reading and writing, I'd suggest rethinking the notebook and pen, and for around 10-15$ you can get a headlight/flashlight thing that you slip on your head, they have LED bulbs, run for days on some AAA or AA batteries. Chinamart has several models on the rack, easy to find there or most other department store. I have two of them, great for working and keeping your hands free, comfortable enough to sit down and read books (or write in a journal) with if there's no other lighting available.

    Really, the next best option is just get an real old cheap used laptop, like some old 50$ pentium one or something. Transfer every days notes to a floppy and snail-mail it to yourself with a postcard, daily, then you have a backup if the laptop borks on you. Just make sure it has a decent battery. Don't think of it as a computer, just call it a portable keyboard equipped electronic typewriter for taking notes that's a lot cheaper than the other one you looked at.

    But I still like the headlamp/ dead trees storage combo as the cheapest and best. The headlamp will satisfy geek gadget urges and it actually is quite practical, and the dead trees notebook is cheap and effective.

  72. Cross Pad by VUSE+g-EE-k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See if you can find an old Cross Pad. I have had good luck with these pads in the past while taking notes in meetings. It is nice to have a digital and a paper copy. The handwriting recog. actually works too. They were discontinued in April 2001, so check ebay.

  73. Palm software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you take the palm with keyboard route as a lot of people are suggesting, I recommend SiEd for text editing, it saves files as normal text files on the memory card.
    If you carry around a cellphone, you can then upload the files with VFSFTP. When I went to events before I got my laptop, I used this setup to update my webpage with live information. I could also upload photos as such.
    Ah, one more handy program, Mocha Telnet, it has SSH-2 support. I used it to ssh in to make thumbnails of the photos I'd uploaded.

  74. Why don't you take a Pen? by flipo.org · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...at least some using Anoto Technology:
    info here
    some reviews here
    and here
    and a open source blogging system that has support for anoto pens: http://handwritten.net/

  75. Re:Like the old Apple eMate by p10pablo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Apple Emate left a void in a market, which both the Dana, Earthlink Mail Station, and other Internet mail friendly devices filled the void for. But for Jobs the desire is not to build a PDA but actually a series of consumer devices for the contempary consumer. Will Apple build anoher nice model device which is sub pc and sub Mac; probably not. Apple will continue to offer more, not less.

  76. Starbucks Nomeclameturista by cgenman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I worked at Starbucks we had Tall, Grande, and Venti drinks. There used to be a Short, but after the Venti was added the Short had to be removed. People kept ordering "Medium," most of whom couldn't understand that they cannot order a medium in a 4 size index. Of course, with our smallest drink labeled a Tall the customers had constant questions when we would relay their order to other people, and we had to double-check with everyone who ordered a Tall that they wanted the smallest drink we served. Which in a way was a lie, as you can still order a short, if you want, it's just not on the menu anymore.