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FSF Subpoenaed by SCO

An anonymous reader writes "Bradley M. Kuhn on the FSF website: Late last year, we were subpoenaed by SCO as part of the ongoing dispute between SCO and IBM. Today, we made that subpoena available on our website. This is a broad subpoena that effectively asks for every single document about the GPL and enforcement of the GPL since 1999. They also demand every document and email that we have exchanged with Linus Torvalds, IBM, and other players in the community. In many cases, they are asking for information that is confidential communication between us and our lawyers, or between us and our contributors."

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  1. Look on the bright side! by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least they got a check for $30 out of it!

    1. Re:Look on the bright side! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      At least they got a check for $30 out of it!

      I presume, by SCO's own twisted logic, that the $30 check is a donation for the FSF's excellent work. Time for a press release.

  2. St. Ignucius by Chemicalscum · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will RMS testify in his St. Ignucius costume.

    1. Re:St. Ignucius by jjeffries · · Score: 5, Funny

      that's a costume?

  3. Overburden them by eyeball · · Score: 5, Funny

    I say you should download every mail list, usenet archive, and online discussion group, then print it all out on 10,000 pages. Throw in RFCs and source code to bulk it up a bit.

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    1. Re:Overburden them by nocomment · · Score: 3, Funny

      then print it all out on 10,000 pages

      Then on the way over there, drop it, so all the pages go flying and put them all back together out of order.

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    2. Re:Overburden them by McNally · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's possible, in fact, that they'll bill for 500 hours of reading these papers when they don't bother to read any of it at all;
      how would SCO prove that they didn't do it?

      Based on prior behavior, I'm guessing that SCO would just claim to have super-duper extra-secret evidence proving their case against the lawyers and that the burden of proof was therefore on the law firm to discredit evidence no-one had seen. I mean, why mess with a so-far successful formula?
    3. Re:Overburden them by Bombcar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Knowning SCO's complaints, it probably was: /mnt/cdrom/AIXSource.tar

      and they couldn't figure it out. After all, a tarball is a concatenated file!

    4. Re:Overburden them by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1, Funny

      then print it all out on 10,000 pages

      That's a bit wasteful - with the right command line options you can squeeze 16 A4 pages onto a single side.

  4. here's what to do... by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Assure them that you have the documents they, and also that you have undeniable proof of the documents. Refuse to provide them, on ground that it would violate agreements you have with certain parties (don't mention who these parties are).

    If all else fails, claim that you cannot provide the documents because it is a matter of national security.

    2003 was a very good year for learning new stonewalling techniques...

    1. Re:here's what to do... by Phillup · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better yet...

      Tell the JUDGE that you have been required because of an ongoing investigation that is SECRET because of the patriot act... that you can't fork over the data.

      You can't actually tell him about the trial because it is SECRET.

      And he can't find out if it really exists... because it is SECRET.

      Get them caught in a big 'ol catch 22 re: the secrecy bs of the patriot act.

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      Can you say BIRTH TAX
    2. Re:here's what to do... by Surt · · Score: 1, Funny

      If Neo had only taken both pills, the overdose might have spared us the sequels.

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      "Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
  5. What a crock of Bull puckey.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Time to warm up the paper shredder Mr Stallman.

    "Documents? - What documents? Oh, you mean the ones I threw out in my yearly spring cleaning?'

  6. They mentioned a $30 check... by trp642 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its apparently for copies or something. They should ask for more. Perhaps they should ask for $699 to cover the licensing fees for the postal service.

  7. Haha by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The law firm misspelled their own name in the subpoena: "Boise Schiller & Flexner".

  8. Re:Non issue by mule007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because with all the nonsense lawsuits these days, you would probably get sued for starting said petition. Or worse yet, someone holding a patent on filing petitions would crawl out of the woodwork, and demand $699 from everyone who signs.

  9. Re:Legality, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    IANAL, but is this legal?

    <Darth McBride> I will make it legal. </Darth McBride>

  10. No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The mail and the RFCs are OK, but whatever you do, don't give them the source code!!!

  11. Re:I'm surprised? by happyfrogcow · · Score: 5, Funny

    just print out every resulting page from a goodle search of GNU GPL Linux, including subsearches on images, groups, and froogle. also, print out any non english results by sending them through babelfish.

    print all the results on 3x5 notecards, in 7 pt font. in binary. naw, binary would be too easy to scan and convert to digital with OCR. make it some crazy bubble letter font. any resulting images convert to ascii art. any froogle results, purchase them and have the sent Cost on Delivery to SCO Headquarters. Which by now is probably the backseat of a Pinto, about to blow up because they shut the door too hard.

  12. Re:Non issue by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 4, Funny

    I actually have a rubber stamp on my desk that stamps the phrase

    THIS DOCUMENT OFFICIALLY
    -------DOES NOT EXIST-------


    See here for a scanned image of the impression.

    I have yet to see it held up in court, but any time I print a document I don't want to have to worry about, I smack it with the stamp and put it in a file drawer.

    I keep it right next to my What the *#*$# were you thinking? rubber stamp that I had custom made. That one seems to be getting an awful lot of use recently...

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  13. Save your time... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Funny
    Here's a transcription of the subpoena:


    Dear FSF,

    All your documents are belong to us. Here's 30 bucks to cover your copying costs (in case you didn't get that this is a big "fuck you", let us clarify that for you - "FUCK YOU"). Toodle-oo!

    Yours truly,

    Your buddies at Dewey, Stickham and Howe

  14. Re:I just read this too! by Tarantolato · · Score: 2, Funny

    AFAIK, in the only legal case regarding BSD, the judge ruled that he thought it would be extremely unlikely that AT&T would be able to prove that they still owned the source code, after scientists had gone through and improved/rewritten much of it.

    At the end of the case, there were like 2 or 3 BSD files that had to be rewritten. At the end (rumor has it), the case was settled in a hurry because the judge pointed out that there was more (unattributed) Berkeley-infringing code in AT&T Unix than AT&T-infringing code in Berkeley.

  15. To whom it may concern... by raider_red · · Score: 4, Funny

    At the hearing: "Your honor, it was addressed to whom it may concern. None of us were particularly concerned, so we trashed it."

    As an alternative, they could just send backup tapes of the hard drives off of every server which FSF earns, and let Boies and company figure out how to extract the data. Extra points for using an obscure/obsolete tape format.

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    1. Re:To whom it may concern... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow. You've finally found a use for "tar --swap-every-third-byte --emulate-vax-post-1993 --include-hurd-source-but-backward". I've always wondered what all of those weird extra GNU options were for.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  16. Re:Nothing to hide? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    But if you (that is, you personally, not the passive you) don't mean me -or do you (personally, not the passive)? I'm confused.

  17. A Sad Day by A.+Pizmo+Clam · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is a very sad day for the Shareware movement. It just breaks my heart to see fine people like Rick Stahlmann and the Electronic Frontier Foundation being hauled into court for minor violations. I mean, seeing as how all this NU GLP software is only for hobbyists anyways, how much could they really have stolen? I fear this will distract them from more important things, like the fine work they've been doing on the eMac.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping it will all blow over soon.

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  18. Re:Now That's A Good Question! by Rorgg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bless me, Father, for I have GOTOed.

  19. RTFM, STFW by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, I guess it's the typical help forum approach.

    SCO: PLEEZ SenD MEE a11 1Nf0 YOU HAvE ON C I waNT to HAXXOR
    FSF: RTFM, STFW, FU, HAND.

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  20. I believe.. by fizban · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the correct response is:

    "These are not the documents you're looking for. Move along."

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    +1 Insightful, -1 Troll. What can I say, I'm an Insightful Troll.

  21. St. Ignucius of nigeria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear SCO, I am respectfully contacting you confidentialy for your information assistence. My father, the late Prime Minister of Free Trade Software Foundation, was assinated and left me with 32,000,000 GPL related documents {THIRTY-TWO MILIONS). To get access to these documents I need access to a foreign company. For your assistance I will reimburse you 15% (FIVE MILIONS U.S. DOCUMENTS). If you are willing to help me, please sent me a supeena with your name, address, and contact on it. I hope this reaches you with respect, my sick mother needs the documents quickly before her illness takes her to heaven.

  22. Re:Legality, please? by iabervon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Plaintiff: give us everything.
    Subpoenee: we give you nothing.
    Plaintiff: okay, how bout half?
    Subpoenee: we'll give you everything RMS has said about software licensing.
    Plaintiff: uh...
    Subpoenee: and everything he's said to women at cons.
    Plaintiff: got a court date, talk to you later. Subpoenee: and a recording of the song.
    Subpoenee: Hello?

  23. Re:Non issue by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny
    I actually have a rubber stamp on my desk that stamps the phrase

    THIS DOCUMENT OFFICIALLY
    -------DOES NOT EXIST-------

    Thank you, now we know what to ask for.

  24. Re:Nothing to hide? by Mr+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good reason would be as defined by the home owner.

    P:Excuse me sir, we have reason to believe an axe murderer has broken into your house, can we check your attic? There's something that appears to be blood dripping out of your awnings.

    You: SCREW YOU PIGS GET A WARRENT OR BLOW ME

  25. OT Sig response... by powerlord · · Score: 2, Funny
    What if Neo took both pills?


    Well ... thats easy.

    If he took the Red pill AND the Blue pill it would be the equivalent of having taken the Purple pill.

    The obvious effect would have been to alleviate symptoms of Acid Reflux for up to 24 hours, while helping to repair any damage to his esophagus.
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  26. Re:Also subpoened: by hesiod · · Score: 2, Funny

    > RMS's love letters from numerous female admirers

    Isn't it illegal to ask for documents you know do not exist?

  27. Re:Nothing to hide? by corvair2k1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    So... Using your disclaimer, if we reading this post think that you are talking about those reading this post, then we reading this post are wrong. But you also say that you isn't personal you... Does that mean "you" refers to Cowboy Neal? That's really confusing!

  28. Better yet, get them to sign an NDA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...before you'll show them any of your code or docs.

  29. Re:I'm surprised? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can't kill electrons, the worst thing you can do is send them on long trips in which they are not interested.

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