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IBM tells SCO to Put Up or Shut Up

Jeffrey Johnson writes "The whole SCO and IBM case is coming to a head with new filings from IBM accusing SCO of being 'grandiose' and saying it has 'effectively conceded' that it has no evidence of infringement. It asks for evidence to be produced or the whole case thrown out. According to experts this makes it make-or-break: either SCO has to outline exactly what the issues are with Linux or the whole sorry affair is over."

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  1. put up & shut up by Pikhq · · Score: 5, Funny

    How's about put up AND shut up?

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    1. Re:put up & shut up by Precipitous · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put up AND shut up?
      Put up OR shut up?

      I'd suggest that the situation is most accurated describe by "Put up" implies "shut up", or (Put Up NAND Shut Up) NAND Put Up.

      This gives two cases returing true:
      1) Neither put up nor shut up: SCO keeps making noise, without producing evidence.

      2) Both put up and shut up.
      SCO produces all extant evidence, and they are consequently forced to shut up.

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  2. One for the money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Seriously, who cares anymore? Everyone knows SCO is full of shit, let's just leave it at that.

  3. more importantly by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

    We want to know when the SCO firesale starts! I need a $2000 office chair for my cat to sleep on.

    1. Re:more importantly by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heh. The Salt Lake and Provo LUGs should get together and start a deathwatch. Basically, people would take turns outside their corporate offices, manning a sign that says, "I bid $5." Victory comes when Darl comes out and accepts the offer.

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  4. Re:About damn time by mckniglj · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were too busy laughing. I believe that they are just now done wiping the tears from their eyes...

  5. Darl's New Job by RPoet · · Score: 5, Funny
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  6. Re:(sigh) by ductormalef · · Score: 5, Funny

    I agree. The headline should read:

    IBM tells SCO to Put Up or Shut Up for the 23rd time (this time we really mean it, but if you don't we'll wait a few months and demand it again)

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  7. Interesting clause... by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought that this was a particularly interesting clause in the filing and one that you don't often see:

    "IBM further requests extensive injunctive relief from litigants, viz, their fields shall be burned, and sown with salt; their buildings torn assunder; their leaders beaten and hanged; their animals slain, and left unto the beasts; their wives enslaved and set to lamentation; their names and images expunged from the histories and chiseled from the monuments; and their children's teeth set on edge, yea unto the seventh generation. So shall vengeance be wreaked upon those who look with enmity upon Big Blue."

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    1. Re:Interesting clause... by jonadab · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot the parts about their bodies being cut into pieces and licked by
      wild dogs and eaten by carion birds and their houses turned into piles of
      rubble and their cities rained upon with brimstones and their journey through
      life henceforward being without stops and their bladders always full and
      their children and their children's children making war in the back seat and
      the famine and the locusts and the pestilence and cafeteria food and thousand
      pound senior citizens in white spandex...

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      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  8. Re:About damn time by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lawyers are paid by the hour.

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  9. if they win? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if SCO actually wins?

    1. Re:if they win? by arevos · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if legions of small, zombie bunnies attempt to take over the world?

      Sometimes, there are more important and more likely things to be worried about.

    2. Re:if they win? by Keith+McClary · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if legions of small, zombie bunnies attempt to take over the world?

      Are you referring to female corporate spokespersons?

  10. Re:Yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Fucking right, man! ROCK ON! You sir, are a pundit of the highest order. I salute you and your willingness to go out on a limb and state your opinion, even when it's not expressed by the majority! If I could, I'd give you a medal.

  11. Is this really such a good thing? by Dizzle · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know we've all been calling for a conclusion to this absurd lawsuit, but isn't it possible that this is a bad thing?

    What stories will go under the Caldera section now? "Caldera makes actual product"?

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    -Dizzle
    "I most likely AM so interested in myself."
  12. Re:(sigh) by SeanAhern · · Score: 1, Funny

    If it's gonna be like that, maybe we should send this whole thing to the United Nations.

  13. Humble suggestion by Syncdata · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why not forgo the whole "sale" route, and just have a fire? I certainly wouldn't want to be the next tenent in their office complex.

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  14. Re:(sigh) by Scott+Richter · · Score: 5, Funny
    Why are we even still reading these things? I'll believe it when I see it.

    I don't know. Why are you?

  15. I know what this is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "This is like...uh.... *nothing* ...

    --Daryl M. 2004

  16. If this were a drinking game... by dacarr · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I had a beer for every time that either SCO said that Linux is for all intents theirs, IBM or others said no it's not, or Slashdot posted about this, I'd be a puddle of organic goo on the office floor.

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  17. how do you pronounce SCO? by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was just thinking about this since Sarah of The ScreenSavers on TechTV (soon to be the monstrosity known as "G4techtv") pronounces it "Skoh" instead of spelling it out S-C-O like I would assume most of us do.

    I mean, nobody references IBM (I-B-M) as "ibbbb'mmmm" or SGI as "sss'gee" or "sss'guy."

    Then again, we're all about to pronounce SCO as "toast."

    And be sure to check out "Unscrewed with Martin Sargent" on TechTV (G4techtv) weeknights. He's a funny mo-fo.

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  18. Whee! by arevos · · Score: 4, Funny
  19. Re:About damn time by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny

    How is this insightful? Can you imagine the trial?

    IBM: "Your honor, I know it's only been a month and we haven't even gotten through the discovery process of gathering evidence, but how about just cut the whole thing short because it's *clearly* a waste of time."

    Judge: "Do you have any evidence to present that proves this conclusively?"

    IBM: "Um, no. But SCO has had a whole 20 business days already! That's an entire month in regular people terms! Sure, we're still fulfilling requests for evidence, but we're *sure* they won't find anything."

    Judge: "Well your certainty is not the law. Perhaps if this case were the only one before the courts and we spent 8 hours a day studying its merits, we could move on that kind of timetable. As it stands, this case sees a couple of hours here and there, so how is that sufficient time to warrant a summary judgment?"

    IBM: "But... but... Linux r0x0rs! We are teh best! Free software... SCO is teh sux0r... patents are evil... FRIST PROST! No? Hello? Anyone? Information wants to be free..."

    Judge: "Motion denied!!"

    [The judge then goes into a long rant about the judicial process and how it's there to protect all parties, and how IBM's lawyers should go back to law school and take Law 101 to learn why it's done this way.]

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  20. and don't forget by phr1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    carving their bones into flutes for Linus's children to play.

  21. Re:(sigh) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, I called my congressman and he said, "Whoa! I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote."

  22. In other news by orcrist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot announced an expected 10% loss in page views once the SCO case is wrapped up. VA Investors are looking for a new company to rally the slashdot readers against...

    -chris

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  23. In the end . . . by dlharper · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . . SCO has about as much a chance of winning as does Andy Kaufman does COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD!

    Hell, even Elvis doesn't have a Blog

    Snopes

  24. Re:Yeah! by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Reminds me of the idiot in the monster movie who makes faces at the creature when he think's its penned up, only to spend the next scene screaming their head off in terror before snuffing it horribly.

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  25. Re:About damn time by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny
    I hear a few of the drug companies are negotiating with IBM to begin medical tests using excess members of their legal department. The reasons are threefold:
    • Lab rats of good pedegree are becoming scarce, there is no shortage of lawyers at IBM.
    • Technicians sometimes develop an attachment an emotional attachment to the rats. This should not be the case for lawyers.
    • There are some things a rat just won't do.

    Yeah, just a rebadge lawyer joke. The Jargon file has an amusing entry about Lion Food

    Two lions who, escaping from the zoo, split up to increase their chances but agree to meet after 2 months. When they finally meet, one is skinny and the other overweight. The thin one says: "How did you manage? I ate a human just once and they turned out a small army to chase me -- guns, nets, it was terrible. Since then I've been reduced to eating mice, insects, even grass." The fat one replies: "Well, I hid near an IBM office and ate a manager a day. And nobody even noticed!"

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  26. Re:Yeah! by mindfucker · · Score: 4, Funny
    Don't you think you're embellishing a tad with this whole 'good vs. evil' thing?

    This looks to me more like one of those videos on "When Animals Attack" where a retarded guy provokes a polar bear by poking it in the ass with a stick.

  27. Quick Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    From a post at Groklaw (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040520 162431732#comments) for those who want it fast.

    Please read PJ's article there for a much better analysis of events.
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    SCO: IBM infringes on our IP!

    IBM: What are you talking about?

    SCO: IBM took our trade secrets and our copyrighted stuff.

    IBM: What trade secrets and copyrighted stuff?

    SCO: We won't tell you.

    IBM: Magistrate, make them tell us.

    Wells: Tell IBM with specificity.

    SCO: We need IBM's source code first!

    IBM: Magistrate, make them tell us.

    Wells: Tell IBM with specificity.

    SCO: Ok we will.

    SCO: We are dropping the trade secrets claim. It's all about derivative works
    now.

    IBM: Magistrate, they didn't tell us.

    SCO: We need IBM's source code first!

    IBM: Bull.

    Magistrate: SCO tell IBM with specificity. IBM, give SCO the appropriate
    source code at the same time.

    SCO: We have complied with the court order.

    IBM: There is no specificity.

    SCO: We have complied with the court order.

    Blepp: I have all the evidence in my suitcase!

    SCO: Hold off on the RedHat case until IBM's counterclaim is settled.

    RedHat: This is weak. Our business is being damaged while we wait for IBM's
    counterclaim to be settled.

    SCO: Dismiss IBM's counterclaim, please.

    Blepp: Our strategy is not to show everything at once.

    IBM: Judge, they told us they had given us everything. They promised us that
    this was everything that they had that we asked for. What they gave us isn't
    even close to proving copyright infringement of SysV in Linux. Please rule on
    this counterclaim.

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