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Best Results From Bartering Computer Services?

silicon not in the v writes "Last night I was over at some friends' house. They had cable modem with no firewall and tons of spyware, etc. on their system. They complained about all the popups and how bad it was that they were afraid to let their kids on the computer, so I set them up with ZoneAlarm, Ad Aware, and Firefox to get it cleaned up. In return, the husband, who is a chiropractor, gave my wife and I a free adjustment. What other interesting services or benefits have people been able to get by bartering IT/programming services?"

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  1. I'll take... by ebh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will fix your computer in return for one of these.

    1. Re:I'll take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      best thang i ever got fixing a computer was a view up the users skirt.. no panties and all landing strip baby.. i would have stayed under that table for hours if id had more napkins... ;-)

    2. Re:I'll take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I will fix your computer in return of one of these.

    3. Re:I'll take... by Suppafly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have one of those shirts, but oddly enough everytime i wear it, I actually get more requests from people to fix their computer problems..

      I've had waitress's ask me computer questions while I was waiting for food to arrive because of that shirt. All it does is tip people off that you know about computers.

    4. Re:I'll take... by SalsaShark79 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is a third-party story, but still relevant.

      My Dad commutes to work every day on the train. He's gotten to be pretty friendly with the conductors/engineers over the past couple of years. One of them mentioned his troubles setting up a wireless network in his home, and my Dad offered his services to work the kinks out for him. It was a frustrating day's work getting everything tweaked just so, but it turned out to be worth it - he hasn't had to pay for a train ticket in about 3 years now. As an added bonus, whenever there's a concert or a Red Sox game, the conductors leave one car empty for my Dad and the other 'regulars' so they don't have to ride home with a train full of drunken yahoos.

    5. Re:I'll take... by Feanturi · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've had waitress's ask me computer questions while I was waiting for food to arrive because of that shirt. All it does is tip people off that you know about computers.

      Perfect, this gives us the v2.0 of that shirt, which should read:

      No, I will not fix your computer

      then in smaller text, lower down:

      ...unless you give really good head

  2. Benefits. by saintlupus · · Score: 5, Funny

    What other interesting services or benefits have people been able to get by bartering IT/programming services?

    Beer. And lots of it.

    --saint

    1. Re:Benefits. by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny
      Beer. And lots of it.
      Yes, and preferably while doing the work. Pizza/Chinese food afterwards.

      Girlfriends and mothers get tech support for free, because one puts out and the other put me out. (Not in Soviet Russia)
      --
      It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
    2. Re:Benefits. by ChadAmberg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Kinda scary, but at one point I actually had too much beer. I was helping out a roommate who owned one of those movie theater/bars with the cute waitresses.
      Lotsa free suds later I found myself playing the criminologist in the Rocky Horror Picture Show...

      And someone out there even has pictures!

    3. Re:Benefits. by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My only barter experience was in the early-mid nineties when people were just starting to talk abouut cyber-cafe's. A friend called me late one night saying the proprieter of the local coffee house was haveing a problem with his computer getting connected to AOL. I came by and fixed the problem and he said I could have anything on the menu.

      This is were it got good. I asked him what he would recommend, not becaus I didn't understand what a latte was but because the proprieter always knows what he does best. He suggested I try a Turbo Cola. I said, "huh?"

      Here's ther recipie:

      3-4 ice cubes of frozen, high quality coffee.
      2 shots of espresso
      Fill the rest with Coke.

      This turned out to be my all time favorite coffee drink. The creamy head is equal or superior to Guiness, the flavor is perfect and I've never gotten a better rev.

      The monetary value of this barter is nothing to get excited about, but the store went out of business a short time after this event and I know I'm one of only a select few that got a crack at one of these drinks. I make if for myself fairly often and know that this recipe is worth far more than the drink itself. If you've never tried a coffee-cola give this recipe a try. Every person who tries one of these and loves it just increases the value of that one, simple job I did.

      TW

    4. Re:Benefits. by jjp5421 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cubs playoff tickets? You would never get paid...

    5. Re:Benefits. by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

      I too started out playing Crim, moved on to Dr. Scott, Riff Raff, and ended up playing Frank-N-Furter... I think that the people who took pictures destroyed them for the good of mankind.

      It was a helluva good way to meet easy women. At least I think they were women...

      --
      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  3. The Geeks Dream by cflorio · · Score: 5, Funny

    Isn't this the story line for some cheap porno film??

    1. Re:The Geeks Dream by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, it is, but it's sometimes not far off. I have offers of free room and board should I ever visit the areas of Sacramento, CA; Tacoma, WA; Denver, CO; Winona, MN; New York City; Memphis, TN; Gulfport, MS; and Ocala, FL, based on remote tech support over the years. A couple of them have promised even more. :: sigh :: What a burden it is to be loyal to one's mate....

      --
      You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
    2. Re:The Geeks Dream by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Back in my dorms days I got rep from an all female dorm that I could quicly set up thier PC's to use the college network instead of the dialup they were all used to using at home.

      Anyway I ended up troubleshooting problems for some of them for two semesters, which didn't bother me(see section about "all female dorm")

      Turns out two of the girls pc's that I fixed very spotted in an episode of Girls Gone Wild.

      Ahhhh good times.

      --
      500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
    3. Re:The Geeks Dream by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Turns out two of the girls pc's that I fixed very spotted in an episode of Girls Gone Wild.

      Only on Slashdot would you find a group of people that could watch GGW and spot a PC they recognize instead of a girl....

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    4. Re:The Geeks Dream by cookiej · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please feel free to post their names and numbers.

      Could give new meaning to the concept of "being slashdotted" ...

  4. Will Work For Bandwidth. by karmatic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I do some work for an ISP, and I get a couple of servers hosted for free, including bandwidth.

    I also have a nice thing going where I host his users (on my servers), and he sends people needing web design to me.

    It works out nicely.

    1. Re:Will Work For Bandwidth. by antic · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did some work for an adult DVD company and thought it quite amusing when the proprietor said of payment when we were negotiating:

      "Cash or product?"

      --
      'Thats they exact same thing a banana wrench monkey.'
  5. taxes by dbizzle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I get my taxes done for free after setting up a Samba domain for a local accountant here in my area. Pretty nice if you ask me.

    1. Re:taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, big deal...

      After "fixing" a computer for the government I get my taxes for free.

      Beat that...

      Ps. In case you work for the FBI, disregard the statement above.

  6. Slave and Master by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well my comp sci teacher lied to me. Apparently, you can't barter computer skills for sex. Bastard!

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    1. Re:Slave and Master by sndtech · · Score: 5, Funny

      yes you can, you just need to know how to barter better

    2. Re:Slave and Master by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's a new game we like to play, you see
      An OS with added functionality
      Won't treat you like a dog or give you BSOD's
      We call it - we call it UNIX

      (It's posts like this that explain why I sleep alone, dammit.)

  7. Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by mrwonton · · Score: 5, Funny

    About all I've ever managed to get for helping my friends with their computer troubles is their recommendation to their friends to bug me to help them. A losing proposition all around.

    --
    Not more than you need, just more than you want
    1. Re:Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by Grrr · · Score: 5, Funny

      Too true.
      What are we doing wrong?

      (I'd like to think that all of the time spent on my parents' computers would lead to the eventual "barter" of an inheritance, but it seems the casinos will keep that from ever happening.)

      <grrr>

    2. Re:Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by TLouden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At the right price you can get them to pay you AND recomend you to friends who in turn do the same. Hasn't failed for me yet though I'm sometimes needed at 3 places in one day and with school and a couple of part time jobs that can be quite a trick to pull off.

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      -Tim Louden
    3. Re:Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by maximilln · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I get the same thing.

      My friends will always complain and moan and complain and moan about their computers being hosed and their connections being slow. One even complained constantly that he couldn't get his new wireless AP to service the whole house, or how he was going to have to run a separate hardline down to the basement so that he could hook up his new Xbox.

      Now these are people I've known all my life. One time I discussed, with a third-party friend, the possibility of offering my services for a fee. We both agreed,"Look, if you try to charge them for it not only will they decline, but they'll redouble their computer complaints, everyone will have to listen to it, and you'll be lucky if they offer you a beer next time you're over to watch the football game."

      So I cleaned their computers and set up their wireless AP with full WEP and MAC filtering for free. Sure I got a few beers and a chicken dinner out of it but it's still a bit of a kick in the pants. I save them $200 and I get the luxury of watching the football game with them? How about they pay me $200 and get the luxury of watching the football game with me?

      Ahhhhhh... to have a house, a big screen TV, and a well-stocked refrigerator. Then people would be jumping to fix _MY_ problems.

      Yeah right...

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      +++ATHZ 99:5:80
    4. Re:Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      being known as "the computer guy" gets a lot of, "Hey, can you look at my computer." I also do quite a bit of auto mechanics, "Hey, can you look at my car."

      My next skill, OBGYN!

      --
      Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
    5. Re:Unwanted but favorable recommendations... by pclminion · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Does the cost of my time fixing my friends' computer problem equate to a net personal benefit to me

      The fundamental problem with this analysis is the assumption that the worth of your time is a constant. For nearly everyone, it certainly is not.

      I've seen plenty of people on Slashdot evaluate their time in terms of their hourly wage. This is completely bogus. If you work a 9-5, then the value of your time between the hours of 7 and 8 PM has absolutely nothing to do with your work wage. You aren't at work between the hours of 7 to 8 PM anyway, so it makes no sense to value your time based on that standard.

      For some, their off-work time is worth less than on-work. For example, people who are paid double-time to work weekends might jump at the chance to give up a few hours lounging around on Sunday in return for a few hundred bucks.

      On the other hand, you have people like me, whose off-work time is so valuable that I doubt there is a quantity you could pay me (ok, within reason) to get me to come to work on Saturday. I don't think I'd do it even for $1000 a day. Okay, maybe as a one-time deal, but not consistently.

      Personally, I think I'm better off with friends that actually like me enough to not try taking advantage of me.

      That's why I have very few "friends." People sometimes ask me if I'm lonely. I respond that I have just as many friends as they do, it's just that I don't refer to my casual acquaintances as "friends." The three or four close friends I do have, would probably give up limbs for me, and I'd do the same.

      I realized long ago that the effort of maintaining the less serious casual acquaintances just wasn't worth it. Pick your real friends and then direct all your energy toward those people. Nobody else matters.

  8. Way back in the early 1990s by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was a student, I set up an old 8086 "XT" class machine with DOS and 8-in-1 office software for a small restaurant. Basically just duplicated their ledger in the spreadsheet. I ate breakfast there all summer for free.

    --
    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  9. Lodging in a foreign country! by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Not direct bartering per se, but I have received number of creative offers from fans of my game.

    My favorite thus far was an offer from a couple in Ireland who offered a night's lodging and a hearty Irish breakfast should we ever visit their fair country--in exchange for the bonus level pack.

    Even though we probably won't hav ethe opportunity to take them up on the offer anytime soon, it was made in earnest, and I was happy to send them a copy of the level pack in return. Even though I can't buy beer 'n' pizza with it, this "barter" has proven far more memorable than the typical few bucks plonked in the PayPal account...

    --

    Obliteracy: Words with explosions

  10. IRS by rawgod0122 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Better watch out for the IRS. You have to claim barter on your taxes!

    1. Re:IRS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What if you get sex for bartering computer skills? Would that be prostitution? Do you have to itemize? Can you deduct it? I'm intrigued.

    2. Re:IRS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As long as you are not exchanging money for sex, you are not in danger of breaking any laws. In fact, that's how "Escorts" still survive, you pay them for their time, anything you decide to do with that time is not included in the price. Or you're just "tipping" them.
      Of course if prostitution was legalized, there would be a lot less crime in this country, and the spread of diseases would be WAY down (ala the red light district in Amsterdam). I've known people who have traded various smokeable items for computer work in the past, that and car service are the two most memorable exchanges. Generally if somone is willing to trade sex for computer service, you're either already dating them, or the sex isn't worth the price paid ;-)

    3. Re:IRS by YankeeInExile · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is some information on just that.

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      How does the Slashdot Effect happen given that no slashdotters ever RTFA?
  11. Not sure how great of a deal it was... by YodaToo · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I have this friend who is a proctologist and he was having computer problems and...

    1. Re:Not sure how great of a deal it was... by tbase · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and you're still trying to figure out how he gave you that exam with both hands on your shoulders?

      --

      666-607: 6th floor apartment of the beast
  12. Cue the funky music by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm here to fix the comptuer."

    "It's in the bedroom."

    "This is going to be a long, hard job."

    "Maybe my roommate can help."

  13. In college... by djcreamy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I fixed computers for hundreds of women. I think one of them later smiled at me. Sure she was nailing my jock roomate, but I still think I came close to losing my virginity...

  14. maybe... by Giganight · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe if you gave them linux you could've gotten the "happy ending"

  15. Oh, come on by varjag · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could just name this story "I am a geek and married".

    --
    Lisp is the Tengwar of programming languages.
  16. Plastic Surgery by hanssprudel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had plastic surgery to my face (the removal of six ugly moles) in return for doing some SEO (nothing unethical, just getting the right search terms in the right places) to the surgeons homepage that brought it into the first place on most search engines when one searched for "breast enlargement" (in the local language).

    I think that beats your bone bending...

  17. Spyware for Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have this neighbor who works at the NSA. He isn't really the bartering type. He, instead, prefers ominous threats.

    Anyway, one day he walked over to my house, knocked on the door, and demanded that I help him get all the crap off his computer. Since he's never too nice to me, I asked him why I should do this. He said if I didn't he'd make me an NSA test case for subdermal tracking devices. Empty threat, I thought to myself.

    Well, I was wrong. Now I have the black vans that seem to track me at a distance. They do a good job of staying out of sight, but I know they are following me. I guess I'm comforted by the fact that someone, somewhere knows my neighbors IP and what web sites he visits.

    1. Re:Spyware for Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Somehow I don't think posting as AC will help...

  18. I have gotten... by dlur · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In return for my services in fixing friends and family's PCs and printers I have recieved:

    Beer
    Free labor on replacement of my water heater.
    Free server hosting
    A kitchen faucet (a nice lifetime warranty Moen one, but not the kitchen sink to go with it)
    Discounted closing on my home mortgage
    Supper
    More Beer
    Lots more food, including gift certificates to nice restaurants

    --
    Duris MUD - The best pkill MUD. Ever.
  19. My eternal soul... by ErnieD · · Score: 5, Funny

    I fixed up my pastor's PC, and in return he has saved my eternal soul. :)

    1. Re:My eternal soul... by medscaper · · Score: 4, Funny
      and in return he has saved my eternal soul

      I don't think I'm alone in saying this...

      You got screwed.

      --
      Any sufficiently well-organized Government is indistinguishable from bullshit.
    2. Re:My eternal soul... by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      God can 'save' you

      Moderation: -1 Fairy tale


      -Colin

  20. Sex in exchange for a small perl script by FictionPimp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yep you heard me.

    Actually, I was going to get the sex anyways, the small perl script was just what I did to prolong the sex.

    1. Re:Sex in exchange for a small perl script by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did she wear a perl necklace?

      --
      "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
    2. Re:Sex in exchange for a small perl script by cuzality · · Score: 5, Funny


      You didn't have to write a perl script for that -- next time just set your media player to loop the video...

      Hmmmph... perl script...

    3. Re:Sex in exchange for a small perl script by medscaper · · Score: 4, Funny
      Did she wear a perl necklace?

      Depends on your definition of "wear", I guess...

      --
      Any sufficiently well-organized Government is indistinguishable from bullshit.
    4. Re:Sex in exchange for a small perl script by f97tosc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your sex toys run PERL???

      Tor

  21. anyone by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Funny

    anyone wearing that shirt rightly deserves the social ostracization that will ensue.

    --
    Photos.
    1. Re:anyone by rdewalt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have one, it was bought for me. Many people who know me, know I've no problem at all if people ask if I can help, nearly every one has offered me something in return. (A couple bucks, a 6 of beer, a pizza, some home-made cookies...).

      But there are too many people out there who -DEMAND- that you help them, and not only have no intention of saying thanks, or even "Hey, what do I owe you?" but "You get paid for this? All you did was press keys."

      You're right. I've had total strangers in the grocery store, read my shirt, and you can -see- the "Maybe he can help me/No wait, he looks like he'll tear my arms off..." conflict. The ones that I see, I -do- offer my services to...

      I get paid quite well in my 9-5 to repair computers, servers, you name it. When I am home, the last thing I need is to hunt down nine hundred copies of "Gator" and so forth because they clicked "Yes" on every gaim window and so forth.

      The chiropractor in the above, wouldn't crack and pop my back into place for free... He, like I, have bills to pay, food to eat, beer to aquire... For friends and family, always free. Total strangers owe me guinness and a promise to never, ever, click "Yes" on those "trust content from...." boxes.

    2. Re:anyone by pestie · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're not kidding! In this LiveJournal post I describe my experience with that shirt in a strip club.

  22. I'm here to fix your hard drive... by twofidyKidd · · Score: 5, Funny

    [woman in nightie]: ...but I don't have a hard drive... *bow chica bow bow*

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    Hades, PoD: Official Advocate
  23. Shiny new Columbia 300 Spirit by 72beetle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I did some REAL minor graphic work (changing 3 buttons for their website) for a firm a few months back... one of the provisions of my day job's contract is that I'm forbidden from doing any outside work, so I asked my boss if I could do a little one-off on the side as long as no money changed hands, and he agreed... so I got the side folks to give me a new bowling ball instead of cash - everyone happy all around!

    By the way, the new ball added almost 30 pins to my average right out of the gate. If you can lay your hands on an original Spirit, they're awesome!

    --
    -Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music.
  24. It went something like... by blystovski · · Score: 5, Funny



    [ex girlfriend] I'm having problems with my PC, I keep getting popups and it freezes all the time.

    [me] That stinks...

    [ex girlfriend] Would you come over and fix it for me?

    [me] I'm kinda busy lately...

    [ex girlfriend] I'll make it worth the trip ;) ;) ;)

    [me] Leaving now!!!

    ...and it was really gwood, too! :-D

  25. some geek's wife by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last night I had some geek come over to my house who wanted to install some crap on my computer. I let him, and in return I got to fondel his wife. I called it "adjusting".

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  26. Re:Chiropracters == Quacks by VanillaCoke420 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Homeopathy is not medical science, and it's not accepted in Europe, not among real scientists and doctors anyway. Please don't lie.

  27. Got my first apartment furnished for free by Jtheletter · · Score: 5, Interesting
    One of my mother's coworkers was having a lot of trouble trying to get her ancient (read Pentium I) computer updated and online so I did about 6 hours total work on the machine over the course of a few weeks in my spare time. I hooked her up with NetZero service and various other programs she wanted, and set the computer up for ease of use by an extremely amateur user. Despite her trying to pay me each time I was there, I only accepted sodas while I worked, insisting that it was such an easy job that that was all the compensation I needed.

    A month or so before I moved into my first apartment she was moving out of her one-bedroom to live with her new fiance, and so in return for my work she called me up and gave me all the furniture from her old apartment provided I move it out.

    I ended up getting a futon, couch, kitchen table and chairs, two clothes chests, a couple end tables, and a slew of kitchen stuff (plates, glasses, pots etc), all in excellent condition. She essentially totally furnished my new place and it cost me nothing.

    I consider this to be the best example of good karma at work I've experienced to date.

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  28. Used to work in a girls dorm, so I got a lot of... by elenaran · · Score: 5, Funny

    cookies, and... My Little Pony stickers...

  29. Dear Penthouse by clintp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Penthouse Letters,

    I never thought I'd be writing to you, but ....

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    Get off my lawn.
  30. Re:Booty haul by Misch · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was supposed to be about love, but in the end it wasn't. C'est la vie.

    At least she didn't give you a virus.

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    --You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
  31. Re:free nookie by Karn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think he means free as in speech.

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    Why do I keep typing pythong?
  32. Re:Wedding and Christening Services. by Misch · · Score: 4, Funny

    So I guess he bartered christian services for MS Office development and support services.

    A sad state of affairs when a minister barters with the devil...

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    --You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
  33. Yoohoo by QuasiCoLtd · · Score: 5, Funny

    No kidding, a year or so back my mother's boyfriend asked me if I could come over to one of his friends house to fix a problem he was having with his computer. It was about 8 or 9 on a Sunday evening , my only day off I might add, but I said "sure". After hearing a description of the problem I determined it was Blaster so I loaded up my trusty pen drive with the removal tool and Ad-aware. After spending 45 minutes removing blaster, patching, removing around 300 bits of spyware (according to Ad-aware),and defragmenting I figured the guy was going to hand me a twenty or possibly even a fifty (he owned a used car dealership) for doing all that work and making it to where his computer was usable again. What was my grand reward for taking over an hour and a half (this includes driving time) of my time on a Sunday night? A yummy bottle of Yoo-Hoo chocolate drink. The sad part is that if I had killed him I would be considered the criminal.....

  34. Re:Used to work in a girls dorm, so I got a lot of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    was this a girls dorm for college or a middle school?

  35. Geek heaven by isomeme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In college, I was approached by one of my girlfriend's dormmates, a good-looking blonde poli-sci major who'd procrastinated on some statistical thing she needed to do on the campus computer system. She was in danger of failing a class if she didn't get it done over the weekend, and she literally didn't even know how to log into the system.

    So, after much hinting and many awkward silences, she blurted out that she'd do anything I wanted if I bailed her out. Surely at that moment I achieved a permanent place in the Geek Hall of Fame, perhaps in the Absurd Fantasies wing.

    But it gets better. You see, I was very happy with my girlfriend at the time (whom I later married), and I didn't want to mess that up by sleeping with someone she saw every day and whom I didn't trust to keep quiet. So I turned her down.

    For the sex, anyway. I had her take me out to dinner instead. The stats thing she needed took me 20 minutes to run.

    I was walking on air for some time after that, just based on the principle of the thing.

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    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a skull.
    1. Re:Geek heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Has having a girlfriend robbed your mind of the geek code?
      1. If you can't fix her computer problem, you send her to another geek who can.
      2. If you can't sleep with her, you send her to another geek who can.
    2. Re:Geek heaven by pipingguy · · Score: 4, Funny


      A classic:

      A graduate student of mathematics who used to come to the university on foot every day arrives one day on a fancy new bicycle.

      "Where did you get the bike from?" his friends want to know.

      "It's a `thank you' present", he explains, "from that freshman girl I've been tutoring. But the story is kind of weird..."

      "Tell us!"

      "Well", he starts, "yesterday she called me on the phone and told me that she had passed her math final and that she wanted to drop by to thank me in person. As usual, she arrived at my place riding her bicycle. But when I had let her in, she suddenly took all her clothes off, lay down on my bed, smiled at me, and said: `You can get from me whatever you desire!'"

      One of his friends remarks: "You made a really smart choice when you took the bicycle."

      "Yeah", another friend adds, "just imagine how silly you would have looked in a girl's clothes - and they wouldn't have fit you anyway!"

  36. Re:A better choice... by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Actually it is the other wayy around. Truckers like computers.

    Trucks now a days are very high tech. They almost all have GPS responders that reveal where they are, what speed they are doing etc. And truckers are lonely, so they often have internet connections for use while they are parked for the night.

    I have found many truckers to be computer geeks at heart.

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  37. Law advice by Thagg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was going to college, I was working weekends in NY and going to school in Baltimore, and, well, I had a little accident on the New Jersey Turnpike where I sort of hit a Highway Patrol car in the snow at very low speed. He wrote me up a ticket for "careless driving," which would have sent my insurance through the roof.

    I was embarrassed about it, but I mentioned it to my although-I-didn't-know-it-wife-to-be, and felt that I had to plead guilty to the charge. She mentioned that her uncle was a lawyer in New Jersey, and that he was having trouble configuring his new Unix box (a Fortune computer, this was 1983.) A deal was quickly struck.

    I went up there for the weekend, and got his machine configured, and he told me about this spectacular precedent called the Wenzel case in New Jersey -- where no matter what the evidence is, if the cop didn't actually see you being careless he couldn't charge you with that. He refused to represent me, but he counseled me with exactly what I had to say. Basically, although I was acting in my own defense, I couldn't testify for myself -- I would merely cite the case.

    Well, traffic court in New Jersey was a long slow process, and I was the last one there when the cop finally deigned to appear. He gave his report, and I offered no explanation, but cited Wenzel, and the judge said "Get out of here." And so I did.

    That barter probably saved me many thousands of dollars over the next few years.

    thad

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  38. Re:A better choice... by sacherjj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually there are plent of country boy geeks. When I went to Rose-Hulman a bunch of us geeks would head out to go shooting. We looked like typical rednecks. That is where we coined the phrase "high-tech redneck".

  39. Marriage by wheatwilliams · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Seven years ago I was a 33-year-old bachelor who had a lot of work fixing friends' computers but who had given up on dating, let alone love.

    A nosy friend of my mother's fixed me up and introduction to a young lady. At the time I lived in Atlanta and she lived in Lafayette, Louisiana. We were both in school. We emailed each other and made a phone call or two for three months before she came to Atlanta to visit her mother.

    Now I do Windows, but at heart I'm a Mac guy. As soon as I introduced myself to this lady, I determined that she was a Mac user. She told me that her mother was a self-employed person who ran her business out of her home on a Macintosh, and that her mother needed a great deal of computer help, which she wasn't really able to pay for.

    (Lightbulb goes off).

    We met. Five months later she bailed out of grad school and moved to Atlanta. We were inseparable. And I spent a lot of time, gratis, helping her mother tackle her Mac problems and get her business and office under control. I upgraded both of them to newer Macs, largely at my own expense.

    When I asked the young lady to marry me, and she said "Yes," I went to her mother.

    I said, "Linda, how would you like a lifetime of free technical support?"

    (Wedding bells)

    1. Re:Marriage by Jim_Maryland · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone has to make the comment...

      Are you sure you got a good barter out of that?

      As a happily married guy myself, I say this with a lot of humor.

  40. The start of my business by Thai-Pan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to fix computers for friends for free just as a favour.. Then word travelled locally and I built a good reputation. People started offering me all sorts of things for computer help; free wine, beer, wine and beermaking accessories (all while I was underage), free weights (yeah, like I actually work out), cookies, dates with hot women (I never did and never will take a pity date), and eventually I became good enough at doing it that most of my offers were money. And so I registered a computer consulting business at age 16.

    I soon had people asking if I could build computers for them.. or tell them what to buy.. or better yet, if they could just hand me the money and I'd do it all for them. I mostly do it for money these days, but I regularly get tips because customers are happy with my level of honesty. Most of my tips are cash (about 10% tip on a whole computer, which is pretty big.. especially considering most parts only have 13% markup!) but I am still tipped with a couple cases of beer now and then. I've had customers ask if they could set me up with their daughters, I can get into a number of local clubs for free with no line, a few local gyms, and I get discount pricing on pretty much everything I buy.

    Computer skills can get you seriously networked with people. I think that's the most important part of all. My friends are always shocked at how many people I know. We'll be talking about, say... getting a car alarm installed on my friend's POS that's been stolen a million times. I know a guy who can hook us up on pricing. I know another guy who will install it for me for free. I know a woman at the insurance agency who will pull all the strings she can to see if the new alarm will lower the insurance rates. Knowing people in places will bail you out of a million and one situations.

    Forget favours like beer. Networking with people is important, and computer skills can do that for you.

    I'm now 20 and just finished my second year of university; I work fewer than 10 hours a week and make more money than the average bachelor degree graduate from my school. I usually don't brag, but I think that's a pretty good accomplishment.

  41. Homeopathy and Quackery and Symptoms by billstewart · · Score: 4, Informative
    Homeopathy is a bogus quack theory with two hundred years of trial and error experience. The lack of scientific basis means that their experience has been used less effectively than it could have been, and it means that much of what they write about what they're doing is too silly for words, but they _have_ learned a lot over the years about what works. They didn't catch on to the Germ Theory of Disease, which means it's not something I'd trust for curing real diseases when modern Western medicine can do something for you, but that doesn't mean it's useless.

    Allergies are one area where homeopathy is useful, because you're not concerned with curing the causes, you're concerned with getting rid of the symptoms. ("Yes, I know there are trees blooming outside, I just want to stop sneezing.") Modern medicine has antihistamines that can help block the symptoms, and cause some side effects, and homeopathy has bogus quack formulations that can also help block the symptoms, and have different side effects, and depending on which one does a better job for _you_ with the allergens that are blowing around right now, and which one has more annoying side effects (e.g. drowsiness vs. stomach upset), sometimes homeopathy is the right choice. Or you can get allergy shots, which aren't really much different from well-controlled homeopathy. It's only been the last couple of years that I've found that modern medicine has products that are significantly better.

    Flu is a special case. It's a virus, so if the vaccine didn't protect you this year, modern medicine mostly tells you to stay home in bed, drink hot fluids, and cover your mouth when you sneeze, and otherwise can't do much. Homeopathy is good for this - there are a couple of homeopathic preparations that can take you from feeling really lousy to merely feeling not very good, and that's a big win.

    The nice thing about homeopathy is that its particularl bogus theory is that the more you dilute a medicine, the more subtle the hints it gives your body's immune system about how to attack the real problem, and therefore the stronger it is. (It's similar to the theory of making martinis that says that you should take the vermouth bottle and gesture meaningfully in the direction of the glass without actually pouring any in...) So unlike herbalist medicines, which you take in non-trivial quantities and can sometimes cause liver or kidney damage if you're not careful, most homeopathic medicines aren't going to hurt you, and the "really strong" stuff is no threat at all if it doesn't work.

    Chiropractic is another quack theory that is obviously not useful for curing disease, but sometimes it can help with back and neck pain, and if you think of it as yet another form of massage, it's often somewhat helpful for many people. My first chiropractor was also an MD, which rather surprised both communities. The last one I went to wasn't able to recognize that my shoulder pains were early bursitis, so it was a while before I found a doctor who could do much about it, but at least he knew his limitations and could tell me that shoulder joints weren't something he knew about.

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  42. Join a Barter Group by TaraByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a member of the Valley Barter Group in Phoenix.

    I am able to trade out computer services for barter bucks which I can use to get food catering, so I don't have to spend time shopping/cooking.

    The added bonus of joining a barter group is that people are way more willing to spend barter bucks than cash, so you can get value out of people who wouldn't otherwise pay you. It is also good for increasing business when you don't have a lot of it already.

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  43. People by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People like people who like them. This shirt says that the world pisses me off, and you're part of that world. Therefore, i'm pissed off at idiots like you who can't tell that my time is too precious to spend fixing your broken PC.

    If you're too busy to fix someone's PC just tell them so, nicely.

    That's respecting yourself, AND others. (ok that sounds like an after school special but it's true).

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  44. Well BJ for starters by node159 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats what my girlfreind gave me for fixing her pc, does that count?

    Now if only her twin sister had the same problem :)

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