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Mandrakelinux 10 Now Available To All
EvilAlien writes "Mandrakelinux has released the ISOs for Mandrakelinux 10.0. Mandrakelinux 10 is one of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default. As always, you can download the release via FTP or Bittorrent. Remember, if you use Mandrakelinux, join the club or buy a box to support them."
I've been using the v.10 Community Edition on one of my older PCs for my little sister. It's easy enough for her, but powerful enough to run what I throw at it. I'll definately be upgrading to the Official Version now.
I started learning Linux with Mandrake Linux and it really made things very easy. Then I moved to RedHat by accident (I lost my Mandrake CDs, couldn't get a replacement and thought, 'well, Mandrake is based on Redhat...'). After reading the previous slashdot stories about Mandrakesoft's financial challenges, I am happy to hear that things are progressing. However, I'm sticking to Fedora since most of my Linux work is server-side; Redhat and Debian happen to be the standards these days and lots of free online support (via google!)is available for them. I have written this personal stuff because I think there are many people in my shoes. 'We like them, but we really can't use them'
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by the way I Am A Fantasia Barrino fan
It is very heartwarming to see some major Linux vendor is interested in the individual home Linux user after RedHat dumped them like yesterday's trash.
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On a side note, I am wondering where they are getting their currency exchange rates. Wish I could buy Euros from this rate and trade on the free market
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For comparison, the Mandrake Linux PowerPack contains more than 2300 high-quality applications including a complete Office Suite of programs, plus installation support, for approximately 75 Euros ($69 US); whereby the equivalent Microsoft Windows + MS Office costs approximately 750 Euros ($685 US) without any technical support.
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The more I know people, the more I love animals
When will they release a MandrakeMove 10? I want to see if and how well Mandrake 10 will perform on a certain set-up, but can't without commiting to a full install.
Can somebody inform me on which is the difference versus community and official releases?
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in soviet russia mandrake releases you!
bad ok its long enough now
Do you happen to know if Mandrake has a Live CD to test this out? The latest Knoppix with 2.6.?-?? doesn't work on my machine, and I'd like to test it out before downloading three CDs only to find it doesn't work.
"One of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default."
Yep, SuSE 9.1 has already been released on CD/DVD, complete with kernel 2.6.4-54 I believe. However, Mandrake 10 is already available for download while SuSE isn't available for download until June 4th.
Personally I prefer SuSE over Mandrake, but if you really really want a prebuilt 2.6 kernel based system NOW, you can go ahead and grab a copy from Mandrake.
...but does it have a Live CD sampler? I'd like to make sure Mandrakes inclusion of kernel 2.6 will work on my hardware before I go and download 3 CDs worth of data.
Does Mandrake 10 suffer from the same MBR corruption bug that currently plagues Red Hat Fedora? Apparently it's caused by some of the changes to the 2.6 kernel and is affecting other 2.6 distros.
ENDUT! HOCH HECH!
Use the torrents - lots of geeks on expensive synchronous connections are waiting to donate bandwidth to you :-)
Are there any geeks on expensive synchronous connections that can keep a tracker up long enough for us to use the Torrents?
I'm trying to grab them, but tracker down is the usual message.
Do not meddle in the affairs of geeks for they are subtle and quick to anger
Well typing-wise urpmi clearly wins (by about a second), but I'm afraid you picked somewhat poor example in Gnome since 1) Mandrake ships with Gnome so there's no need to go urpmi'ing it, and 2) I can not ever recall Mandrake releasing an upgrade for the Gnome they ship. My last info is that at Mandrake Gnome is still a one-man operation.
Debian unstable/testing OTOH gets a lot of up-to-date Gnome pumped around the network... ;-)
Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?
I am a SuSE believer and thus I am not a Mandrake club member. I like however to play with other distributions and compare them with SuSE (SuSE is ALWAYS the best). I used Mandrake for a while in 98-99 ( v. 5.1,5.3, 6.0); back then it was just Red Hat+KDE.
About one month ago I downloaded Mandrake 10 official by using a bootleg torrent. I got 4 CDs. The currrent official download Mandrake 10 edition has only three CDs. The md5 sums of the current isos are the same as the md5 sums of the first three bootleg isos I downloaded a month ago. The CD #4,
1a85f42a5d25a8336ddb45fa8e8c50a3 Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download-CD4.i586.iso
is missing, it is not even mentioned in the md5sum file! What happened with this fourth CD?
I'm getting 350k/sec down and 390k/sec upload speed with bittorrent right now... so, speed is not an issue at the moment! :D
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else wonder what software companies are going to do to compensate for version numbers that are already at version 10 and up? I know numbering is by far the easiest system for engineer types, but will people start to get annoyed or confused about the difference between mandrake 15 vs suse 12... do these releases actually warrant a whole new number?
And frankly, can't we just call it something new and start from 1 again?
just a thought
my last sig was too controversial... now, a new and improved useless sig!
I've tried Community Edition recently, and I wonder when will they make UTF-8 locales work right. While I'm using KOI8-R locale (I am from Ukraine) it's fine, but there is a lot of troubles with Unicode locales - complete mess in logs, broken fonts in mc (BTW, why doesn't it installs by default ?) and some other apps, to name a few. I mean Unicode is good , but in its current state it useless as for me.
P.S. It seems like Mandrake CE is slightly slower than my Slackware - one more reason to stay with SlackOnce thing I was promised was my voice to be heard. Another one - to get some benefits.
My voice was heard, but only by other members. I asked once - "are we gonna get a dvd iso as well ? (regarding 9.2)". Not a single answer from MDK. When 9.2 was released, Gold members were given an ISO download, but not bronze/silver (I can't really afford a Gold membership, I'm just a student). What I really disliked is that they didn't tell me anything. And nobody can really argue that they didn't notice my message, since the traffic on MDK club is very small.
The benefits - well, the package system is reasonably good. Other than that ... it certainly doesn't feel like a subscription service. There are many products (like the x86-64 distro) that are not available for club members at all. For the main distro itself, it felt that I was paying to be a betatester more than a priviledged downloader.
I think that the way to go for MDK is to convert the club into a true subscription model (not the very ambiguous hafl charity, half business thing that the club currently is). Until then I'll be happily using MDK on my laptops without being a member, but won't be too sorry if I have to switch to Debian.
The Raven
First of all, I've used just about every distro out there, and even some you've never heard of...
Way back since the slackware days, even kernel 1.0 days and before that... Yes floppies were great.
Mandrake has had its troubles, not the least of which has been the financial stuff that it's now finally out of...
But even before Red Hat 7.0 it was a better distro. Its always had better package management.
I see people whine that Debian is better JUST because of "apt get", well guess what? Mandrake has that too! so get a clue...
and RPM? well it does that... and it does it all better. I have yet to see a better packager than URPMI... ever.
also, through all my testing over the years, I have never, EVER seen a distro support all my hardware "out of the box", I mean, it JUST WORKS. On all the wierd laptops I've owned, it installs and runs like a charm, every time, supporting all the whacky devices without me having to do a thing. ever...
wireless? yep, it was there, done and work, weird ass DSL setups, it worked. and it detected it all and set it up right, the first time... during install.
Package support? it has soo many different packages, for desktops, for servers, for whatever you want, even if you want everything. Me, of course, I experiment, so I literally install EVERYTHING, and it still works!
Today, for newbies I always point them at Mandrake, its dirt simple to install, and it gets it all correct, the first time, no weird questions, no BS, ever. it just works. period. and thats what people want.
for the hardcore people, I still recommend it, for servers, I still recommend it. always.
no matter what you are trying to do, it'll support it, no matter what your hardware, it'll work.
if it doesn't, you did something wrong. I hate people who say "Well I just installed it and it doesn't work" well guess what, it is STILL possible to do "something wrong" even then.
I watched friends do this, and they complain that whatever doesnt work afterwards, and I noticed during install they didnt select those packages... well, guess what? it wont work... duhhhh... and they even claim they selected "everything"... uh, no, I was watching bubba, you missed more than half of it. hello...
if you have a specific use, need a specific package, and specifically DONT choose it during install, of course it wont be there... jeez, get a clue...
I dont know of a better distro, I've been supporting them since way back when, and always will, I pay support, I buy extra stuff, you name it.
right now on the market there aren't many choices...
Debian - forget it.
Fedora - this thing is a joke
SUSE - I hate Yast with a passion
slackware - they ruined it after 7.0
nuff said.
I use Mandrake....9.2 with some cooker stuff added (newer postfix, mailman and a 2.6.6 kernel). Before that, I used 3 different versions of Caldera (3.0, 2.x and 1.3) before they became the evil SCOmpire.
/rant
I used to support Caldera by buying a box set of whichever version it was. I could usually pick it up at my neighborhood Costco for under 30 bucks. It was a good deal for me and it put some money in Caldera's coffers. TANSTAAFL. Everyone was happy.
rant
With Mandrake, I want to do the same thing and I'm continually astounded by HOW FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is...$50USD for the 2 CD set (which gives less than the download) and $90 for the full-featured 8 CD set.
So then I say, well, let me see what it costs to join the Mandrake Club: $66...and you don't seem to get anything other than the ability to download the ISOs earlier than anyone else for that level.
I'm a Mac user. I'm used to paying for software, but this is ridiculous, especially since a distro is current for only ~6 months and support's for 2 years.
I have to say I agree. I tried Mdk 10 for a fortnight. While it had plenty of great features and very good hardware support (even auto-detected and configured my HP laserjet 1000), it was just too unreliable for me to use it for work. SuSE 9.1 seems much more stable to me so far.