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Mandrakelinux 10 Now Available To All

EvilAlien writes "Mandrakelinux has released the ISOs for Mandrakelinux 10.0. Mandrakelinux 10 is one of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default. As always, you can download the release via FTP or Bittorrent. Remember, if you use Mandrakelinux, join the club or buy a box to support them."

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  1. Excellent Distro!!! by drsmack1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have upgraded from Mandrake 9.2 and I can say that this is the finest Linux distro made today. I bought Suse 9.1 and checked it out for a while; but went back to Mandrake. I am a club member and as such can easily install realplayer, flash, and Java right from pre-compiled rpms. URPMI keeps me coming back!

    1. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by nocomment · · Score: 4, Funny

      nooooo! I hadn't finished downloading it, great, there goes my downlaod speeds. Hey people! the swedish mirror is the fastest one! Go download from them, er I mean from here.

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    2. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      apt-get install foo
      urpmi foo
      So it looks like the Mandrake way takes less time to type, and is therefore easier :-P

      Debian is superior in some ways, but for now I'm sticking with Mandrake and if you're going to shout the virtues of Debian I'd say you're best off sticking to things that Mandrake doesn't do in nearly the exact same way.
    3. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by nocomment · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With debian its even easier to install things with apt-get.

      how is it easier to type 'apt-get install gnome' (as an example) over 'urpmi gnome'? It's just as easy. A little less typing the urpmi way. The cool thing with urpmi is rpm's are already compatible with it. urpmi checks the dependencies and then downloads those also.

      I like debian, but it's no easier.

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    4. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Use the torrents - lots of geeks on expensive synchronous connections are waiting to donate bandwidth to you :-)

    5. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by PReDiToR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Use the torrents - lots of geeks on expensive synchronous connections are waiting to donate bandwidth to you :-)

      Are there any geeks on expensive synchronous connections that can keep a tracker up long enough for us to use the Torrents?

      I'm trying to grab them, but tracker down is the usual message.

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    6. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 3, Interesting
      how is it easier to type 'apt-get install gnome' (as an example) over 'urpmi gnome'?

      Well typing-wise urpmi clearly wins (by about a second), but I'm afraid you picked somewhat poor example in Gnome since 1) Mandrake ships with Gnome so there's no need to go urpmi'ing it, and 2) I can not ever recall Mandrake releasing an upgrade for the Gnome they ship. My last info is that at Mandrake Gnome is still a one-man operation.

      Debian unstable/testing OTOH gets a lot of up-to-date Gnome pumped around the network... ;-)

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    7. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by eltoyoboyo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The pclinuxonline folks have, IMHO, a really good Mandrake live CD put together. You can find it here. They are currently working on the next release which is due...anytime... (They had put an ISO out on the mirrors, but then yanked it right away.)

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    8. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by wemgadge · · Score: 5, Informative
      urpmi.addmedia waschk http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Man drake/10.0 with hdlist.cz

      to add Gnome 2.6 to Mandrakelinux 10

      http://www.thebrix.org.uk/

      is a site that lists all of the "nonofficial" RPM packager sites for Mandrakelinux

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    9. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by jd142 · · Score: 3, Informative

      but does it have a Live CD sampler?

      Yes. Yes, it does. Mandrakemove is a cd distribution designed to specifically to run from a cd. Buy the boxed edition and it stores your settings on the included usb key.

      http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/

    10. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by TwinkieStix · · Score: 5, Funny

      alias d='apt-get install'
      alias m='urpmi'

      There. Now they are the same length. Can't we all just get along?

    11. Re:Excellent Distro!!! by kdriedge · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's this package 'foo' that everyone keeps talking about? I can't find it anywhere :!

  2. Damn by Stevyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just spent two days downloading each file from FTP!

    Actually, I think the ftp install is more efficient. It allows you do skip the source RPMs and the contrib directory if you don't want it. You can also do a more unattended install because you don't have to keep switching out the cds. And...I'm pretty sure there was a script that made the ISOs for you. Damn, I just invalidated this whole story. Sorry slashdot.

    1. Re:Damn by Siniset · · Score: 5, Insightful
      10.0 is the first release I did the ftp install for and I'm really happy about it. I used gentoo for a while, and loved the fact that i could go to the command line, type emerge foobar and in a couple of minutes (or hours) have foobar on my computer. I loved my gentoo box, but found myself playing with it too much to get it to work just right, which is why I went back to Mandrake, because it's pretty amazing how much they are able to make work just by default. Also, their control center is the best one that I've used, better than fedoras, imo.

      Anyways, I recommend people using it if they are interested in begining on linux, because it gives the ease of use that a beginner needs, but its pretty powerful under the hood.

  3. /. Effect to the Extreme by bobhagopian · · Score: 3, Funny

    It becomes impossible to open a 100k HTML file once it gets slashdotted... god help that poor soul that is trying to download those huge ISO files right now.

    1. Re:/. Effect to the Extreme by jomas1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The /. effect should help the bittorent along greatly though. The more people who get http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/Mandrakelinux-1 0.0-Official-Download.torrent the faster it goes right?

  4. Community Edition by Xshare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been using the v.10 Community Edition on one of my older PCs for my little sister. It's easy enough for her, but powerful enough to run what I throw at it. I'll definately be upgrading to the Official Version now.

  5. SuSe 9.1 is on sale at their online store by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 3, Informative

    It comes with 2.6.4-54 (off the top of my head, so I may be wrong about the sub-revision)

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    1. Re:SuSe 9.1 is on sale at their online store by SKPhoton · · Score: 4, Informative

      So you say you wanted to grab a copy of the Mandrake LiveCD?

    2. Re:SuSe 9.1 is on sale at their online store by nocomment · · Score: 4, Informative

      MandrakeMove is what you're looking for. You can even use a USB key to save files on. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#move --Bryan

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  6. Nice, Thanks, but no thanks. by osewa77 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I started learning Linux with Mandrake Linux and it really made things very easy. Then I moved to RedHat by accident (I lost my Mandrake CDs, couldn't get a replacement and thought, 'well, Mandrake is based on Redhat...'). After reading the previous slashdot stories about Mandrakesoft's financial challenges, I am happy to hear that things are progressing. However, I'm sticking to Fedora since most of my Linux work is server-side; Redhat and Debian happen to be the standards these days and lots of free online support (via google!)is available for them. I have written this personal stuff because I think there are many people in my shoes. 'We like them, but we really can't use them'
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    1. Re:Nice, Thanks, but no thanks. by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      RedHat *was* the standard back in the day, but others have cought up, and they pretty much blew any other advantage off with their Fedora vs Enterprise debarkle. RedHat users faced the choice of a distro in continuous state of Beta, or paying large fees for updates. Not good. I've been through Debian, MkLinux, Mandrake, RedHat, SuSE, Adamantix, and a few others, and I'll say that these days Mandrake and SuSE are the real players. Mandrake has got the desktop figured out, and SuSE has got the Novell juggernaut behind them. Aside from "only RedHat supported" 3rd party apps, and maybe business folks who want the well-known name when first move to Linux, I just can't see much room for RedHat anymore... It's certainly been ousted from this office and replaced with alternatives.

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  7. Big claps to Mandrake ... by nomad63 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is very heartwarming to see some major Linux vendor is interested in the individual home Linux user after RedHat dumped them like yesterday's trash.

    On a side note, I am wondering where they are getting their currency exchange rates. Wish I could buy Euros from this rate and trade on the free market :)

    [quote on]
    For comparison, the Mandrake Linux PowerPack contains more than 2300 high-quality applications including a complete Office Suite of programs, plus installation support, for approximately 75 Euros ($69 US); whereby the equivalent Microsoft Windows + MS Office costs approximately 750 Euros ($685 US) without any technical support.
    [quote off]

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    1. Re:Big claps to Mandrake ... by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Informative
      How is Fedora dumping the home user? It's fantastic! What's more, yum and apt are much better that up2date, and moving out from RedHat (the company) has allowed them to migrate.

      Please, try Fedora before you bash it. And, since when is the quality of a distro tied to the support of a corporation? Wouldn't that mean that Debian and Slackware suck? Odd, since they don't.

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    2. Re:Big claps to Mandrake ... by harikiri · · Score: 4, Insightful
      He's probably referring to the fact that for a home user today, to get a well-integrated desktop Linux system (like what many of us used RedHat for), we have very, very limited options.

      Today, if you want a freely available desktop-oriented Linux distribution, you have to hunt far and wide. If you looked a week ago, you would have Fedora Core 2, which suffers from this major bug, Mandrake 10 Community - which is a pain to update. Knoppix is good but it's not really meant for installation though it can be done. A quick look on SuSe's downloads page shows that they do offer it free (minus commercial components), but it's either in LiveCD format or has to be installed via FTP.

      So, unfortunately today, we don't have the luxury we used to of being able to simply grab the 3 iso's for RedHat and installing them onto our system. Sure we could use Debian, or Gentoo, or even go out on a limb and try FreeBSD - but none of these are desktop-oriented, though you can achieve a nice desktop system if you work at it.

      I think that's what he's talking about. :)

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    3. Re:Big claps to Mandrake ... by Chris+Siegler · · Score: 3, Insightful
      How is Fedora dumping the home user? It's fantastic! What's more, yum and apt are much better that up2date, and moving out from RedHat (the company) has allowed them to migrate.

      fantastic? It trashes Windows partition maps, breaks NVIDIA drivers, screws up X configuration files, has missing popular packages (XCDroast), and NO firewire support! And that's just what I personally experienced! It's the biggest piece of horsesh*t distribution that has ever shown it's head and it's a RELEASE for goodness sake. I would rank it as the worst test release ever, never mind comparing it to something normal users are supposed to use. What's staggering is that they're blaming everybody but themselves for the problems, like people's time is free and they've got nothing better to do than learn about Grub and the fun details of recovering a partition map.

  8. MandrakeMove by vigilology · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When will they release a MandrakeMove 10? I want to see if and how well Mandrake 10 will perform on a certain set-up, but can't without commiting to a full install.

  9. What's the diff? as they would say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can somebody inform me on which is the difference versus community and official releases?

    in soviet russia mandrake releases you!
    bad ok its long enough now ...

  10. The Good Ole Days by YodaToo · · Score: 5, Funny

    With BitTorrents of CD & DVD ISO's transporting data over all these fancy high speed lines, do you ever long for the good ole days of having to install distros like Slackware on 3.5 floppy or sending off in the mail for a Walnut Creek CD to load up linux via your fancy new 1x cartridge based CDROM?

  11. 2.6 kernel by SKPhoton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "One of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default."

    Yep, SuSE 9.1 has already been released on CD/DVD, complete with kernel 2.6.4-54 I believe. However, Mandrake 10 is already available for download while SuSE isn't available for download until June 4th.

    Personally I prefer SuSE over Mandrake, but if you really really want a prebuilt 2.6 kernel based system NOW, you can go ahead and grab a copy from Mandrake.

  12. Already tried it. by bmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every so often, I pit one OS against another. I picked up a copy of Mandrake 10 from Linux Format. Of course it was the download version, but I saw it and I had to check it out.

    The French and the Germans battled it out yet again on my PC. As usual, the Maginot line crumbled instantly as the Germans, with their technical superority *from LAST OCTOBER* (SuSE 9.0), totally cleaned the floor with Mandrake 10.

    And thusly, I cleaned Mandrake off the drive.

    Hello SuSE 9.1

    This again proves that you should get your food from France, technology from Germany, and women from Poland.

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    1. Re:Already tried it. by Cornelius+Chesterfie · · Score: 3, Funny

      It was about Canadians. The joke went something like:

      "The sad thing about Canada is that they could've gotten british culture, french cooking and american technology. Instead they got french technology, british cooking and american culture."

  13. Fedora Dual-Boot Bug? by astrosmash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does Mandrake 10 suffer from the same MBR corruption bug that currently plagues Red Hat Fedora? Apparently it's caused by some of the changes to the 2.6 kernel and is affecting other 2.6 distros.

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    1. Re:Fedora Dual-Boot Bug? by lokem · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think it still is according to this . But somehow the bug is marked as FIXED. More info here. Only a temp solution is provided :(

    2. Re:Fedora Dual-Boot Bug? by Nailer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes.

      See bugzilla bug.

      To make the problem apparent, you must partition whilst using kernel 2.6. Not upgrade an existing system to 2.6 after having already partitioned.

      Also, the bug only appears on particular drive geometries.

      But you can fix it with sfdisk, writing out a new partition table with a different geometry.

      See the parent posts link.

    3. Re:Fedora Dual-Boot Bug? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 3, Insightful
      But you can fix it with sfdisk, writing out a new partition table with a different geometry.

      *shudder* No thanks. I don't care how easy it is to do, I'll wait for them to produce a fix.

      I don't care whose fault it is, but speaking as an average joe user, if you want to crowbar that copy of Windows XP from me, then I want to be able to install Linux without having to faff around repairing/rebuilding stuff that I know very little about in the first place.

      When you're the underdog, or up against something which is established, in any industry, you have to accept that sometimes you may need to "fix" something that wasn't really your fault in the first place.

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  14. Bittorrent... by Roguelazer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get on that bittorrent people! I'm only getting 1KiB/s, so the Slashdot effect can't have hit the bittorrent. I know it's hard, but you can all use BT instead of the FTP download. It's inverse slashdot effect, really. The more of us there are, the faster the site is. So hop to!

  15. Nope by NineNine · · Score: 3, Informative

    That story was saying that the Official release was available to payign Mandrake Club members. Now it's freely available to anyone.

  16. WOW!!! by shaitand · · Score: 3, Funny

    Check out that features page, it says it includes ATI, NVIDIA and Matrox video cards. Just what I needed, a linux distro that comes with free video cards! woot!

  17. sure by mrsev · · Score: 5, Informative

    Community is like a final release candidate. They consider is stable enought to release but not to sell. All the bugfixes from community go into the official release. The official is the one in the boxes in the shops and is considered stable.

  18. Re:As much as I'd like to recommend Mandrake ... by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 3, Informative

    Finding the download is elegantly simple, as I discovered. Google is your friend: search for "mandrake linux download." The first result is to their download page.

  19. Re:Yay Linux! by ChiaKemp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mandrake 10 Official plays just fine with a Windows partition. I've been using it for a while no with no issues booting to Windows. Also it was my understanding that it wasn't the 2.6 kernel that caused the issue but something to do with Fedora Core 2's installer.

  20. There have been many, many variations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's one:

    In Heaven: All the police are British, all the mechanics are German, all the lovers are French, all the chefs are Italian and everything is run by the Swiss.

    In Hell: All the police are German, all the mechanics are French, all the lovers are Swiss, all the chefs are British and everything is run by the Italians.

    (Fished from http://www.1jma.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=607&whichpag e=6)

    The first time I heard a joke like this was in reference to European unification about 15 years ago. One guy says to another, something like, "My hope is that unification will mean all the police will be...". After which some other guy says something like, "Yes, but my fear is, all the police will be..."

  21. I used to be a club member by vlad_petric · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For two years, as a matter of fact. I joined for three reasons - 1. I could give back to MDK without paying the 2. Duval's March call (2 years ago) 3. Subscription is the way to go for Linux, IMHO (because of the very rapid movement in the Opensource World)

    Once thing I was promised was my voice to be heard. Another one - to get some benefits.

    My voice was heard, but only by other members. I asked once - "are we gonna get a dvd iso as well ? (regarding 9.2)". Not a single answer from MDK. When 9.2 was released, Gold members were given an ISO download, but not bronze/silver (I can't really afford a Gold membership, I'm just a student). What I really disliked is that they didn't tell me anything. And nobody can really argue that they didn't notice my message, since the traffic on MDK club is very small.

    The benefits - well, the package system is reasonably good. Other than that ... it certainly doesn't feel like a subscription service. There are many products (like the x86-64 distro) that are not available for club members at all. For the main distro itself, it felt that I was paying to be a betatester more than a priviledged downloader.

    I think that the way to go for MDK is to convert the club into a true subscription model (not the very ambiguous hafl charity, half business thing that the club currently is). Until then I'll be happily using MDK on my laptops without being a member, but won't be too sorry if I have to switch to Debian.

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  22. Re:How's the wireless support? by Akai · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just did a raw install of MDK 10 official last week (I'm a silver member) on my work laptop since I get so frustrated using windows I want to hit things.

    Anyways, I was at a conference and borrowed an Orinoco wireless card, slammed it in the side and powered up the laptop. It detected a new wireless card, asked me for SSID type stuff and came right up.

    Mandrake also supports hotplugging of network interfaces, so if there's no carrier on your built-in-ethernet it doesn't try to bring it up.

    As for the dlink card, you might want to check here and see if they list it.

    good luck

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  23. a review of various distros by RouterSlayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First of all, I've used just about every distro out there, and even some you've never heard of...

    Way back since the slackware days, even kernel 1.0 days and before that... Yes floppies were great.

    Mandrake has had its troubles, not the least of which has been the financial stuff that it's now finally out of...

    But even before Red Hat 7.0 it was a better distro. Its always had better package management.

    I see people whine that Debian is better JUST because of "apt get", well guess what? Mandrake has that too! so get a clue...

    and RPM? well it does that... and it does it all better. I have yet to see a better packager than URPMI... ever.

    also, through all my testing over the years, I have never, EVER seen a distro support all my hardware "out of the box", I mean, it JUST WORKS. On all the wierd laptops I've owned, it installs and runs like a charm, every time, supporting all the whacky devices without me having to do a thing. ever...

    wireless? yep, it was there, done and work, weird ass DSL setups, it worked. and it detected it all and set it up right, the first time... during install.

    Package support? it has soo many different packages, for desktops, for servers, for whatever you want, even if you want everything. Me, of course, I experiment, so I literally install EVERYTHING, and it still works!

    Today, for newbies I always point them at Mandrake, its dirt simple to install, and it gets it all correct, the first time, no weird questions, no BS, ever. it just works. period. and thats what people want.

    for the hardcore people, I still recommend it, for servers, I still recommend it. always.

    no matter what you are trying to do, it'll support it, no matter what your hardware, it'll work.

    if it doesn't, you did something wrong. I hate people who say "Well I just installed it and it doesn't work" well guess what, it is STILL possible to do "something wrong" even then.

    I watched friends do this, and they complain that whatever doesnt work afterwards, and I noticed during install they didnt select those packages... well, guess what? it wont work... duhhhh... and they even claim they selected "everything"... uh, no, I was watching bubba, you missed more than half of it. hello...

    if you have a specific use, need a specific package, and specifically DONT choose it during install, of course it wont be there... jeez, get a clue...

    I dont know of a better distro, I've been supporting them since way back when, and always will, I pay support, I buy extra stuff, you name it.

    right now on the market there aren't many choices...

    Debian - forget it.
    Fedora - this thing is a joke
    SUSE - I hate Yast with a passion
    slackware - they ruined it after 7.0
    nuff said.

  24. Re:Where is the CD #4? by opkool · · Score: 3, Informative

    CD4 is only available for MDK Club members. If you are not a member, you will not have aces to the ISO.

    Although, don't worry. All the contents are accessible through urpmi/rpmdrake (Mandrake's YasT/apt-get/yum software installation rpogram) . Just add the "main" and "contrib" sources to urpmi from the Easy URPMI page here:

    http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/

    See? All nice and easy.

    Peace