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Mandrakelinux 10 Now Available To All
EvilAlien writes "Mandrakelinux has released the ISOs for Mandrakelinux 10.0. Mandrakelinux 10 is one of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default. As always, you can download the release via FTP or Bittorrent. Remember, if you use Mandrakelinux, join the club or buy a box to support them."
I have upgraded from Mandrake 9.2 and I can say that this is the finest Linux distro made today. I bought Suse 9.1 and checked it out for a while; but went back to Mandrake. I am a club member and as such can easily install realplayer, flash, and Java right from pre-compiled rpms. URPMI keeps me coming back!
Humor from a Genetically Molested Mind
I just spent two days downloading each file from FTP!
Actually, I think the ftp install is more efficient. It allows you do skip the source RPMs and the contrib directory if you don't want it. You can also do a more unattended install because you don't have to keep switching out the cds. And...I'm pretty sure there was a script that made the ISOs for you. Damn, I just invalidated this whole story. Sorry slashdot.
It becomes impossible to open a 100k HTML file once it gets slashdotted... god help that poor soul that is trying to download those huge ISO files right now.
I've been using the v.10 Community Edition on one of my older PCs for my little sister. It's easy enough for her, but powerful enough to run what I throw at it. I'll definately be upgrading to the Official Version now.
It comes with 2.6.4-54 (off the top of my head, so I may be wrong about the sub-revision)
My mom says I'm cool.
I started learning Linux with Mandrake Linux and it really made things very easy. Then I moved to RedHat by accident (I lost my Mandrake CDs, couldn't get a replacement and thought, 'well, Mandrake is based on Redhat...'). After reading the previous slashdot stories about Mandrakesoft's financial challenges, I am happy to hear that things are progressing. However, I'm sticking to Fedora since most of my Linux work is server-side; Redhat and Debian happen to be the standards these days and lots of free online support (via google!)is available for them. I have written this personal stuff because I think there are many people in my shoes. 'We like them, but we really can't use them'
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by the way I Am A Fantasia Barrino fan
It is very heartwarming to see some major Linux vendor is interested in the individual home Linux user after RedHat dumped them like yesterday's trash.
:)
On a side note, I am wondering where they are getting their currency exchange rates. Wish I could buy Euros from this rate and trade on the free market
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For comparison, the Mandrake Linux PowerPack contains more than 2300 high-quality applications including a complete Office Suite of programs, plus installation support, for approximately 75 Euros ($69 US); whereby the equivalent Microsoft Windows + MS Office costs approximately 750 Euros ($685 US) without any technical support.
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The more I know people, the more I love animals
When will they release a MandrakeMove 10? I want to see if and how well Mandrake 10 will perform on a certain set-up, but can't without commiting to a full install.
Can somebody inform me on which is the difference versus community and official releases?
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in soviet russia mandrake releases you!
bad ok its long enough now
With BitTorrents of CD & DVD ISO's transporting data over all these fancy high speed lines, do you ever long for the good ole days of having to install distros like Slackware on 3.5 floppy or sending off in the mail for a Walnut Creek CD to load up linux via your fancy new 1x cartridge based CDROM?
This way to the egress...
"One of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default."
Yep, SuSE 9.1 has already been released on CD/DVD, complete with kernel 2.6.4-54 I believe. However, Mandrake 10 is already available for download while SuSE isn't available for download until June 4th.
Personally I prefer SuSE over Mandrake, but if you really really want a prebuilt 2.6 kernel based system NOW, you can go ahead and grab a copy from Mandrake.
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Every so often, I pit one OS against another. I picked up a copy of Mandrake 10 from Linux Format. Of course it was the download version, but I saw it and I had to check it out.
The French and the Germans battled it out yet again on my PC. As usual, the Maginot line crumbled instantly as the Germans, with their technical superority *from LAST OCTOBER* (SuSE 9.0), totally cleaned the floor with Mandrake 10.
And thusly, I cleaned Mandrake off the drive.
Hello SuSE 9.1
This again proves that you should get your food from France, technology from Germany, and women from Poland.
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BMO
Does Mandrake 10 suffer from the same MBR corruption bug that currently plagues Red Hat Fedora? Apparently it's caused by some of the changes to the 2.6 kernel and is affecting other 2.6 distros.
ENDUT! HOCH HECH!
I remember some (though not all) of the FTP sites had CD 4 available with the community release (it was later taken down). Has anyone else come across it?
Get on that bittorrent people! I'm only getting 1KiB/s, so the Slashdot effect can't have hit the bittorrent. I know it's hard, but you can all use BT instead of the FTP download. It's inverse slashdot effect, really. The more of us there are, the faster the site is. So hop to!
My Systems
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
That story was saying that the Official release was available to payign Mandrake Club members. Now it's freely available to anyone.
I cannot figure out why my post is offtopic.
This is the second "offtopic" modded posts I've seen today (the other post was not mine) that I don't think is reasonable.
In general, people seem to be at least reasonable with "Troll" and "Flamebait" tags. Even "Overrated" is somewhat sane, if someone just wants something modded down for a non-mentioned reason. I cannot tell why on earth my post would be considered "Offtopic", though. It was a direct, relevant response to an on-topic post.
May we never see th
Check out that features page, it says it includes ATI, NVIDIA and Matrox video cards. Just what I needed, a linux distro that comes with free video cards! woot!
Community is like a final release candidate. They consider is stable enought to release but not to sell. All the bugfixes from community go into the official release. The official is the one in the boxes in the shops and is considered stable.
Finding the download is elegantly simple, as I discovered. Google is your friend: search for "mandrake linux download." The first result is to their download page.
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at last! the wait is over. downloading right now. soon all my boxes are belong to Mandy 10 :-)
I am a SuSE believer and thus I am not a Mandrake club member. I like however to play with other distributions and compare them with SuSE (SuSE is ALWAYS the best). I used Mandrake for a while in 98-99 ( v. 5.1,5.3, 6.0); back then it was just Red Hat+KDE.
About one month ago I downloaded Mandrake 10 official by using a bootleg torrent. I got 4 CDs. The currrent official download Mandrake 10 edition has only three CDs. The md5 sums of the current isos are the same as the md5 sums of the first three bootleg isos I downloaded a month ago. The CD #4,
1a85f42a5d25a8336ddb45fa8e8c50a3 Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download-CD4.i586.iso
is missing, it is not even mentioned in the md5sum file! What happened with this fourth CD?
Why did I install community on this box last night!?
-makoffee
Mandrake 10 Official plays just fine with a Windows partition. I've been using it for a while no with no issues booting to Windows. Also it was my understanding that it wasn't the 2.6 kernel that caused the issue but something to do with Fedora Core 2's installer.
I have been downloading the Suprnova torrent for a fuking week.
Is there anything better than clicking through Microsoft ads on Slashdot?
I was previously unsuccessful at installing MandrakeLinux because I couldn't find a driver for widescreen monitors. My laptop is widescreen and all the resolutions looked like crap on it.
If Mandrake really wants to be user-friendly, it needs to at least compete with Windows XP (which automatically found the perfect resolution) in terms of video ability. Let's face it, 2D video code is so arcane that any software developer should be able to manipulate it perfectly.
the byproduct of years of oppression by the white man
Dupe?
No. That was about the official release, but to MandrakeClub members. This is about the free release of the ISOs.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Just update mandrake-release-10.0-1mdk then:
o fficial/updates/10.0/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.czm andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/ RPMS with ../base/hdlist.czm andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpi.removemedia -a
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/
urpmi.addmedia main ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/
and finaly
urpi --update --auto-select
[sigh] All I get is complaints about QM_MODULES. None of my modules install which makes my system entirely useless. This is on a supposedly clean install, though I also tried an upgrade. I tried with kernel 2.4.x and 2.6.x, no go in any case.
It's a shame. I paid $160 to Mandrake for this and it doesn't work. I was a happy Mandrake 9.2 customer but 10.0 just doesn't work.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Here's one:
g e=6)
In Heaven: All the police are British, all the mechanics are German, all the lovers are French, all the chefs are Italian and everything is run by the Swiss.
In Hell: All the police are German, all the mechanics are French, all the lovers are Swiss, all the chefs are British and everything is run by the Italians.
(Fished from http://www.1jma.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=607&whichpa
The first time I heard a joke like this was in reference to European unification about 15 years ago. One guy says to another, something like, "My hope is that unification will mean all the police will be...". After which some other guy says something like, "Yes, but my fear is, all the police will be..."
I have been a bit slow on developments in consumer computers (having not purchased a new computer in about 6 years). Anyway, can one buy an OS-less PC nowadays? Of course i am looking for one whose price reflects the fact that you are not paying for windows. Or is it possible to buy a pc with linux preinstalled, that would be even better!
Since i no longer have time for games i see no reason in dual booting.
So if I can buy a OS-free pc or a linux PC, could you guys recomend a good reliable place to get it from?
And please do not say "build one yourself". I am not a college kid anymore (unfortunately) and dont have the time/patience to build my own pc.
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else wonder what software companies are going to do to compensate for version numbers that are already at version 10 and up? I know numbering is by far the easiest system for engineer types, but will people start to get annoyed or confused about the difference between mandrake 15 vs suse 12... do these releases actually warrant a whole new number?
And frankly, can't we just call it something new and start from 1 again?
just a thought
my last sig was too controversial... now, a new and improved useless sig!
RedHat did dump the home user when they discontinued they home os and when to just enterprise distros.
Fedora is an spinoff that core redhat devs use to test things for their enterprise releases.
They weren't bashing fedora, just the redhat company, there is a difference.
(and yes i use fedora for my server os)
I've installed Mandrake 10 official on 3 systems and it works fine.
I've tried Community Edition recently, and I wonder when will they make UTF-8 locales work right. While I'm using KOI8-R locale (I am from Ukraine) it's fine, but there is a lot of troubles with Unicode locales - complete mess in logs, broken fonts in mc (BTW, why doesn't it installs by default ?) and some other apps, to name a few. I mean Unicode is good , but in its current state it useless as for me.
P.S. It seems like Mandrake CE is slightly slower than my Slackware - one more reason to stay with SlackMy dad has a box that's no good for any Windows past 98, and now that it's EOL'd, I'm thinking about recommending he move to Linux. (I'm a FreeBSD guy myself, but it looks like a lot of the Linux distros are more friendly to the Windows emigrant.)
All he uses the box for is email, web, and reading his digital camera.
Can anybody comment on Mandrake 10's suitability for such a user? Ease of use (particuarly when the geek is four states away)? Any anecdotes about Mandrake's support?
I'm going to install it here on a VMware box to evaluate myself, but would like some opinions from longer-term users.
I've been running Mandrake Cooker(10.1?) now for a couple of months, and it's great. I think I just like the feeling of being so bleeding edge that my laptop gets a little soaked sometimes. I mean, Mandrake 10! Come on, that's so last month. /. crowd only liked a distro if you have to recompile your test kernel to even get it to boot.
I thought the
What are we coming to...before you know it we'll be saying that Linus didn't come up with Linux.
Oh, wait...
I'm getting 28k down, 23k up. Did you remember to cap your upload speed? That's a common problem with bittorrent on asymmetric links; you've got to cap your u/l speed or your downloads will suck.
You can also use bandwidth shaping to make sure that the outbound ACKs are getting enough of a chunk of the pipe. That's what I do here. It keeps my web and ssh at good speeds, and gets the ACKs out so my d/l doesn't suck.
Woah there cowboy.. you're forgetting the _*best_ linux distro available.
;)
Ahemm...
(sound of thunder crashing - deep voice of God)
SlackWare Linux
Now forget mandrake, be a man and get out there and pick yourself up some slack.
Mr. Dobbs loves you.
* Actually I take that back.. feel free to reply with what you think is good or not good with slack.
I tried mandrake 7 and 8 and they were both a bit wanting but overall pretty good - at least I was able to connect and pull in system updates. But I've reinstalled this goddamned OS at least thirty times (yes, literally) on two different machines and it's always broken roughly the same way. Since I get no error messages and the discs checkout fine with the disc checking tool I can only assume this is another example of why .0 releases are bad news.
That said, tomorrow it's off to the library to fetch the new fedora core.
Still looking for that linux release that will let me confidently wipe my windows partition for good...
Anyone knows when it will be released? :)
One thing that's holding me back on linux is the less-than-stellar wireless support. Keeps my PC on Windows XP when I'd rather be using linux.
How is Mandrake 10's wireless support? Can it work with a D-Link DWL-G510 card? Can it be made to work?
Ive found my download speed will soon catch up as Bittorrent connects to more and more people im currently getting 26kbs and climbing
Once thing I was promised was my voice to be heard. Another one - to get some benefits.
My voice was heard, but only by other members. I asked once - "are we gonna get a dvd iso as well ? (regarding 9.2)". Not a single answer from MDK. When 9.2 was released, Gold members were given an ISO download, but not bronze/silver (I can't really afford a Gold membership, I'm just a student). What I really disliked is that they didn't tell me anything. And nobody can really argue that they didn't notice my message, since the traffic on MDK club is very small.
The benefits - well, the package system is reasonably good. Other than that ... it certainly doesn't feel like a subscription service. There are many products (like the x86-64 distro) that are not available for club members at all. For the main distro itself, it felt that I was paying to be a betatester more than a priviledged downloader.
I think that the way to go for MDK is to convert the club into a true subscription model (not the very ambiguous hafl charity, half business thing that the club currently is). Until then I'll be happily using MDK on my laptops without being a member, but won't be too sorry if I have to switch to Debian.
The Raven
Actually, it only caused a problem when Windows was on a seperate drive. If Windows was one the same drive but different partition then its fine. The problem occurs because Windows, as usual, didn't follow the standard for the partion indexes(not sure if thats the right word), Fedora saw a screwed up index and fixed it. All the sudden windows is broke because your computer was fixed. Kinda like, w3c compliant HTML will render fine under Firefox, but IE may sometimes screw it up.
Regards,
Steve
I really love my Mandrake installation, I think it is 8.x.
I've downloaded some 9.x distro and 10 before but cannot use them. You install all the packages then you get some disabled version that only has a few applications and that it unless you join the club. Is that what Linux is about, limited OS unless you pay licensing fees.
Euphemism, what is that a euphemism for something.
I got my copy of Mandrake 10.0 on ebay weeks ago.
Funny thing. I paid for it immediately with PayPal, and it arrived a few days later. But then eBay followed up with a letter telling me I didn't have to follow through on my end (the buyers end) of the deal because the seller's account had been deleted.
Kinda sucked, because I was all ready to give the dude positive feedback for shipping it so fast.
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Choose any two.
Hassle the http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/ team for this, not the http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net "team" (ie, me) for it.
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RTFS Assmonkey, the club is as little as $66, any only $132 for silver which gets you the "powerpack" versions of the ISOs.
The boxes start at $50 for the "Discovery" version, $85 for the powerpack, and $230 for the powerpack plus
The more expensive ones ($380 for PowerPackPlus subscription) entitle you two CD sets for the next two releases as well (10,10.1 and 10.2 for example, assuming version inflation doesn't happen)
Please send all UCE to scally@devolution.com so I can f
Thanks.
Mod parent up.
First of all, I've used just about every distro out there, and even some you've never heard of...
Way back since the slackware days, even kernel 1.0 days and before that... Yes floppies were great.
Mandrake has had its troubles, not the least of which has been the financial stuff that it's now finally out of...
But even before Red Hat 7.0 it was a better distro. Its always had better package management.
I see people whine that Debian is better JUST because of "apt get", well guess what? Mandrake has that too! so get a clue...
and RPM? well it does that... and it does it all better. I have yet to see a better packager than URPMI... ever.
also, through all my testing over the years, I have never, EVER seen a distro support all my hardware "out of the box", I mean, it JUST WORKS. On all the wierd laptops I've owned, it installs and runs like a charm, every time, supporting all the whacky devices without me having to do a thing. ever...
wireless? yep, it was there, done and work, weird ass DSL setups, it worked. and it detected it all and set it up right, the first time... during install.
Package support? it has soo many different packages, for desktops, for servers, for whatever you want, even if you want everything. Me, of course, I experiment, so I literally install EVERYTHING, and it still works!
Today, for newbies I always point them at Mandrake, its dirt simple to install, and it gets it all correct, the first time, no weird questions, no BS, ever. it just works. period. and thats what people want.
for the hardcore people, I still recommend it, for servers, I still recommend it. always.
no matter what you are trying to do, it'll support it, no matter what your hardware, it'll work.
if it doesn't, you did something wrong. I hate people who say "Well I just installed it and it doesn't work" well guess what, it is STILL possible to do "something wrong" even then.
I watched friends do this, and they complain that whatever doesnt work afterwards, and I noticed during install they didnt select those packages... well, guess what? it wont work... duhhhh... and they even claim they selected "everything"... uh, no, I was watching bubba, you missed more than half of it. hello...
if you have a specific use, need a specific package, and specifically DONT choose it during install, of course it wont be there... jeez, get a clue...
I dont know of a better distro, I've been supporting them since way back when, and always will, I pay support, I buy extra stuff, you name it.
right now on the market there aren't many choices...
Debian - forget it.
Fedora - this thing is a joke
SUSE - I hate Yast with a passion
slackware - they ruined it after 7.0
nuff said.
I use Mandrake....9.2 with some cooker stuff added (newer postfix, mailman and a 2.6.6 kernel). Before that, I used 3 different versions of Caldera (3.0, 2.x and 1.3) before they became the evil SCOmpire.
/rant
I used to support Caldera by buying a box set of whichever version it was. I could usually pick it up at my neighborhood Costco for under 30 bucks. It was a good deal for me and it put some money in Caldera's coffers. TANSTAAFL. Everyone was happy.
rant
With Mandrake, I want to do the same thing and I'm continually astounded by HOW FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is...$50USD for the 2 CD set (which gives less than the download) and $90 for the full-featured 8 CD set.
So then I say, well, let me see what it costs to join the Mandrake Club: $66...and you don't seem to get anything other than the ability to download the ISOs earlier than anyone else for that level.
I'm a Mac user. I'm used to paying for software, but this is ridiculous, especially since a distro is current for only ~6 months and support's for 2 years.
But I assume that even if Windows and Mandrake are on seperate drives, Mandrake won't succumb to this same problem?
Not to my knowledge. At least it shouldn't.
'Nuf said.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
I bought the Powerpack last week and reviewed it:
Mandrake 10.0 Official Powerpack Review
On the whole, I love it.
I've got a mandrake 10 (com. ed.) running now. for a commodity box. it does the job. but the drakx (system config tool) installer sucks. I thought I had a (real - guts) problem with it. It was interesting to use mandrake 5.3 (with the redhat installer) to get the network card to install. It turned out to be a raid problem and ripping it out solved it.
from there, drakx was a usability (lipstick) problem. option selection is the biggest problem. not a showstopper but a PIA.
peterrenshaw ~ Another Scrappy Startup
Just on little note in case you are a fan of kdevelop. Lots of mandrake 10.0 users are having problems with projects of any complexity in kdevelop. The current recommended fix for the brave is to recompile from source. Personally I'm just going somewhere else till .1
Combination - fun iPhone puzzling
-Yenya
-Yenya
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While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it has to be. --Linus
Highly annoying.
Yes it works, but it doesn't work well.
That said, MDK is still my favourite distro and I gladly run it. I'm just hoping for the AMD64 version to come out.
You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. -- Harlan Ellison
The rest of it's about right though...
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This sig is inoffensive.
hi, I downloaded the Mandrake ISOs yesterday (twice! just to be sure), and neither time did the md5sum's of the files match those listed on their web site. Is it me? Or have others noticed this as well?
sTc
Most things worth doing are worth doing twice. -- me I think or was that my boss' methodology?
Warning: these packages aren't updated anymore, they've been merged into Cooker, which will become 10.1.
The university's admins must hate me for linking my page on /. :-)
While MandrakeSoft is a French company, the distribution community has members from all over the world. I'm from Germany, others are from Canada, China, South Africa and other countries. So I wouldn't call mdk a French distribution.
yeah, a bit offtopic, but nevermind. a friend of mine lives in a house where a lot of other students live and they're running their own lan (yeah, still mostly used for quakeworld) but also use it for this funny internet/intranet thingy. since most of the students are, erm, not that geekish, he came up with the idea to build a custom distro that includes all they need for their net activities. they all use standard, well supported hardware (like old geforces and stuff). since i like this kinda thing, what would be a good starting point for that? debian? lfs? i mean, i crossinstall hurd once a month (i know, i'm sooo brave), so i'm a bit biased in terms of usability.
beer as in "free beer"
You can go to a big comptuer store and probally buy Mandrake in less time and support Mandrake in the process.
p hp
If you can wait about a week you can get Mandrake for about $4 from
http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/index.
I have also seen some impressive prices on linux, even Suse on ebay.
Steve
Because I wanted to be able to download it. A forum user named only "Bruno of Amsterdam" let a few of us know before it was posted anywhere.
You know it will be impossible to download now that it's on Slashdot. That's probably why it took a full day for Slashdot to post it. I'm sure there are some anonymous cowards out there who did the same thing.
Ops, I shuld have usd the prevuwe but in.
The guy probably disappeared before you figured out the difference. I don't think the CD's where available weeks ago.
Ops, I shuld have usd the prevuwe but in.
C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>uname --help
Usage: C:\USR\LOCAL\WBIN\UNAME.EXE [OPTION]...
-a, --all print all information
-m, --machine print the machine (hardware) type
-n, --nodename print the machine's network node hostname
-r, --release print the operating system release
-s, --sysname print the operating system name
-v print the operating system version
--help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit
Without any OPTION, assume -s.
C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>uname -s
Windows
C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>uname -v
4
C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>uname -r
10
Windows was at 10 already in the 98 SE days, which I'm still using at work. I don't hear anyone complaining about that, though. Well, perhaps this would be better interpreted as 4.10 in *nix terms. But, my point is, Windows is up there also.
Ops, I shuld have usd the prevuwe but in.
surprise surprise, i don't have a favorite distro and i can't seem to pick one to standardize on. At home i recently did an ftp install of Mandrake 10 for my desktop and Gentoo on my f-wall router. At work I have gentoo on my desktop, old RedHat & Mandrake 9.1 on the servers, debian on another desktop. Plus one Knoppix to show off to freinds. The truth is that everytime i hate something about a distro i try a new one. And the result is that i end up hating something else about that distro too. Example, Mandrake drove me crazy with the 3cd download every time there was a new version. So i gave debian and gentoo a shot. Debian seemed fine until i somehow started having package dependency problems and it started feeling like RedHat and Mdk (probably my fault). Then Gentoo came in. Other than the long compile times and the changed /etc config files!!!! i love it ;-) RedHat doesn't appeal to me anymore cause of the Fedora thingy, i felt back stabbed by that. Knoppix is cool and can be extremely handy....thats it. I even tried Knoppix's HD install...reminded me of Debian, probably cause it is ;-)
If Mdk has one thing going for them, its that they have a pretty polished free distro thats easier on the newbie but doesn't limit the experienced user.
So for now i'm mostly playin around with Gentoo.
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
You don't have to pay to download and use. Also, don't confuse freedom and no-cost. Linux is free as in freedom.
You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. -- Harlan Ellison
Thanks, I'll try that out. I don't know why Mandrake 10 would install (_not_ update) without installing a required tool like binutils, but I'll certainly check that out. I'd very much like to be running Mandrake 10.
I may try scrubbing my hard drive and reinstalling on a clean system. I have a suspicion that Mandrake 10 ignored my request for a clean installation/reformat.
I'll post my results here when I have some.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
FC won't run under Virtual PC, at least as recently as FC RC3.
For those of us who run several OSs simultaneously on once machine (e.g. client-server development on a laptop), this is another showstopper in addition to all the items mentioned in the parent.
With 10.0, my only recommendation is to get Cooker's 2.6.6 kernel, install it (and the kernel-source package if you wish), and fix up your /boot/ files and /etc/lilo.conf file (and run 'lilo') so that you can have both kernels.
2.6.3 seems a bit raw for me, and 2.6.6 helped with a couple of drivers.
I'm probably going to go to new gnome/evolution/etc before 10.1 comes out too. Too tempting not to try!
Berto
the reason I'm not using redhat is stability. M10 is nice and stable as a desktop. I'm not going to waste my time using a V1.0 (fedora) product.
I've got to agree M10 has done a good job on the desktop. it just works. plus theres a decent supply of documentation
peterrenshaw ~ Another Scrappy Startup
Strange. Some of the greatest composers of all time were German (Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms, Schumann, etc). Even a lot of their modern music isn't bad. :)
But I suspect the joke was referring to the silly Oktoberfest style bands
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Thanks, Ron. I reformatted my machine last night and Mandrake 10 worked this time. I checked, binutils was definitely _not_ the problem, it was installed by default and was plenty up-to-date enough. This time through, I made sure my root wasn't on a RAID partition (I had /boot in a non-raid) and also, I erased EVERYTHING off my hard drives. And it just worked.
I obviously could not have used rpmdrake in a terminal during my prior attempts as the complete lack of any modules meant I had no net access and no CD-ROM access.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
No problem... I had to put mine on a cd. For some reason it was keeping the old version of bin utils. I got the rpm from the internet. Wierd.