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Mandrakelinux 10 Now Available To All
EvilAlien writes "Mandrakelinux has released the ISOs for Mandrakelinux 10.0. Mandrakelinux 10 is one of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default. As always, you can download the release via FTP or Bittorrent. Remember, if you use Mandrakelinux, join the club or buy a box to support them."
I have upgraded from Mandrake 9.2 and I can say that this is the finest Linux distro made today. I bought Suse 9.1 and checked it out for a while; but went back to Mandrake. I am a club member and as such can easily install realplayer, flash, and Java right from pre-compiled rpms. URPMI keeps me coming back!
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I just spent two days downloading each file from FTP!
Actually, I think the ftp install is more efficient. It allows you do skip the source RPMs and the contrib directory if you don't want it. You can also do a more unattended install because you don't have to keep switching out the cds. And...I'm pretty sure there was a script that made the ISOs for you. Damn, I just invalidated this whole story. Sorry slashdot.
It becomes impossible to open a 100k HTML file once it gets slashdotted... god help that poor soul that is trying to download those huge ISO files right now.
I've been using the v.10 Community Edition on one of my older PCs for my little sister. It's easy enough for her, but powerful enough to run what I throw at it. I'll definately be upgrading to the Official Version now.
It comes with 2.6.4-54 (off the top of my head, so I may be wrong about the sub-revision)
My mom says I'm cool.
I started learning Linux with Mandrake Linux and it really made things very easy. Then I moved to RedHat by accident (I lost my Mandrake CDs, couldn't get a replacement and thought, 'well, Mandrake is based on Redhat...'). After reading the previous slashdot stories about Mandrakesoft's financial challenges, I am happy to hear that things are progressing. However, I'm sticking to Fedora since most of my Linux work is server-side; Redhat and Debian happen to be the standards these days and lots of free online support (via google!)is available for them. I have written this personal stuff because I think there are many people in my shoes. 'We like them, but we really can't use them'
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by the way I Am A Fantasia Barrino fan
It is very heartwarming to see some major Linux vendor is interested in the individual home Linux user after RedHat dumped them like yesterday's trash.
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On a side note, I am wondering where they are getting their currency exchange rates. Wish I could buy Euros from this rate and trade on the free market
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For comparison, the Mandrake Linux PowerPack contains more than 2300 high-quality applications including a complete Office Suite of programs, plus installation support, for approximately 75 Euros ($69 US); whereby the equivalent Microsoft Windows + MS Office costs approximately 750 Euros ($685 US) without any technical support.
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When will they release a MandrakeMove 10? I want to see if and how well Mandrake 10 will perform on a certain set-up, but can't without commiting to a full install.
Can somebody inform me on which is the difference versus community and official releases?
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in soviet russia mandrake releases you!
bad ok its long enough now
With BitTorrents of CD & DVD ISO's transporting data over all these fancy high speed lines, do you ever long for the good ole days of having to install distros like Slackware on 3.5 floppy or sending off in the mail for a Walnut Creek CD to load up linux via your fancy new 1x cartridge based CDROM?
This way to the egress...
"One of the first commercially available Linux distributions to feature the 2.6 kernel by default."
Yep, SuSE 9.1 has already been released on CD/DVD, complete with kernel 2.6.4-54 I believe. However, Mandrake 10 is already available for download while SuSE isn't available for download until June 4th.
Personally I prefer SuSE over Mandrake, but if you really really want a prebuilt 2.6 kernel based system NOW, you can go ahead and grab a copy from Mandrake.
Every so often, I pit one OS against another. I picked up a copy of Mandrake 10 from Linux Format. Of course it was the download version, but I saw it and I had to check it out.
The French and the Germans battled it out yet again on my PC. As usual, the Maginot line crumbled instantly as the Germans, with their technical superority *from LAST OCTOBER* (SuSE 9.0), totally cleaned the floor with Mandrake 10.
And thusly, I cleaned Mandrake off the drive.
Hello SuSE 9.1
This again proves that you should get your food from France, technology from Germany, and women from Poland.
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BMO
Does Mandrake 10 suffer from the same MBR corruption bug that currently plagues Red Hat Fedora? Apparently it's caused by some of the changes to the 2.6 kernel and is affecting other 2.6 distros.
ENDUT! HOCH HECH!
Get on that bittorrent people! I'm only getting 1KiB/s, so the Slashdot effect can't have hit the bittorrent. I know it's hard, but you can all use BT instead of the FTP download. It's inverse slashdot effect, really. The more of us there are, the faster the site is. So hop to!
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$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
That story was saying that the Official release was available to payign Mandrake Club members. Now it's freely available to anyone.
Check out that features page, it says it includes ATI, NVIDIA and Matrox video cards. Just what I needed, a linux distro that comes with free video cards! woot!
Community is like a final release candidate. They consider is stable enought to release but not to sell. All the bugfixes from community go into the official release. The official is the one in the boxes in the shops and is considered stable.
Finding the download is elegantly simple, as I discovered. Google is your friend: search for "mandrake linux download." The first result is to their download page.
I am a SuSE believer and thus I am not a Mandrake club member. I like however to play with other distributions and compare them with SuSE (SuSE is ALWAYS the best). I used Mandrake for a while in 98-99 ( v. 5.1,5.3, 6.0); back then it was just Red Hat+KDE.
About one month ago I downloaded Mandrake 10 official by using a bootleg torrent. I got 4 CDs. The currrent official download Mandrake 10 edition has only three CDs. The md5 sums of the current isos are the same as the md5 sums of the first three bootleg isos I downloaded a month ago. The CD #4,
1a85f42a5d25a8336ddb45fa8e8c50a3 Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download-CD4.i586.iso
is missing, it is not even mentioned in the md5sum file! What happened with this fourth CD?
Mandrake 10 Official plays just fine with a Windows partition. I've been using it for a while no with no issues booting to Windows. Also it was my understanding that it wasn't the 2.6 kernel that caused the issue but something to do with Fedora Core 2's installer.
It is on EMule, along with CD 5.
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
Just update mandrake-release-10.0-1mdk then:
o fficial/updates/10.0/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.czm andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/ RPMS with ../base/hdlist.czm andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpi.removemedia -a
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/
urpmi.addmedia main ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/
and finaly
urpi --update --auto-select
[sigh] All I get is complaints about QM_MODULES. None of my modules install which makes my system entirely useless. This is on a supposedly clean install, though I also tried an upgrade. I tried with kernel 2.4.x and 2.6.x, no go in any case.
It's a shame. I paid $160 to Mandrake for this and it doesn't work. I was a happy Mandrake 9.2 customer but 10.0 just doesn't work.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Here's one:
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In Heaven: All the police are British, all the mechanics are German, all the lovers are French, all the chefs are Italian and everything is run by the Swiss.
In Hell: All the police are German, all the mechanics are French, all the lovers are Swiss, all the chefs are British and everything is run by the Italians.
(Fished from http://www.1jma.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=607&whichpa
The first time I heard a joke like this was in reference to European unification about 15 years ago. One guy says to another, something like, "My hope is that unification will mean all the police will be...". After which some other guy says something like, "Yes, but my fear is, all the police will be..."
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else wonder what software companies are going to do to compensate for version numbers that are already at version 10 and up? I know numbering is by far the easiest system for engineer types, but will people start to get annoyed or confused about the difference between mandrake 15 vs suse 12... do these releases actually warrant a whole new number?
And frankly, can't we just call it something new and start from 1 again?
just a thought
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I've tried Community Edition recently, and I wonder when will they make UTF-8 locales work right. While I'm using KOI8-R locale (I am from Ukraine) it's fine, but there is a lot of troubles with Unicode locales - complete mess in logs, broken fonts in mc (BTW, why doesn't it installs by default ?) and some other apps, to name a few. I mean Unicode is good , but in its current state it useless as for me.
P.S. It seems like Mandrake CE is slightly slower than my Slackware - one more reason to stay with SlackOnce thing I was promised was my voice to be heard. Another one - to get some benefits.
My voice was heard, but only by other members. I asked once - "are we gonna get a dvd iso as well ? (regarding 9.2)". Not a single answer from MDK. When 9.2 was released, Gold members were given an ISO download, but not bronze/silver (I can't really afford a Gold membership, I'm just a student). What I really disliked is that they didn't tell me anything. And nobody can really argue that they didn't notice my message, since the traffic on MDK club is very small.
The benefits - well, the package system is reasonably good. Other than that ... it certainly doesn't feel like a subscription service. There are many products (like the x86-64 distro) that are not available for club members at all. For the main distro itself, it felt that I was paying to be a betatester more than a priviledged downloader.
I think that the way to go for MDK is to convert the club into a true subscription model (not the very ambiguous hafl charity, half business thing that the club currently is). Until then I'll be happily using MDK on my laptops without being a member, but won't be too sorry if I have to switch to Debian.
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I just did a raw install of MDK 10 official last week (I'm a silver member) on my work laptop since I get so frustrated using windows I want to hit things.
Anyways, I was at a conference and borrowed an Orinoco wireless card, slammed it in the side and powered up the laptop. It detected a new wireless card, asked me for SSID type stuff and came right up.
Mandrake also supports hotplugging of network interfaces, so if there's no carrier on your built-in-ethernet it doesn't try to bring it up.
As for the dlink card, you might want to check here and see if they list it.
good luck
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Mandrake 10 Official for AMD 64 was released on May 4th. Looks like it'll cost you about $129.00 (U.S.) unless your a club memeber then you get a discount or a pony or something.
Hassle the http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/ team for this, not the http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net "team" (ie, me) for it.
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First of all, I've used just about every distro out there, and even some you've never heard of...
Way back since the slackware days, even kernel 1.0 days and before that... Yes floppies were great.
Mandrake has had its troubles, not the least of which has been the financial stuff that it's now finally out of...
But even before Red Hat 7.0 it was a better distro. Its always had better package management.
I see people whine that Debian is better JUST because of "apt get", well guess what? Mandrake has that too! so get a clue...
and RPM? well it does that... and it does it all better. I have yet to see a better packager than URPMI... ever.
also, through all my testing over the years, I have never, EVER seen a distro support all my hardware "out of the box", I mean, it JUST WORKS. On all the wierd laptops I've owned, it installs and runs like a charm, every time, supporting all the whacky devices without me having to do a thing. ever...
wireless? yep, it was there, done and work, weird ass DSL setups, it worked. and it detected it all and set it up right, the first time... during install.
Package support? it has soo many different packages, for desktops, for servers, for whatever you want, even if you want everything. Me, of course, I experiment, so I literally install EVERYTHING, and it still works!
Today, for newbies I always point them at Mandrake, its dirt simple to install, and it gets it all correct, the first time, no weird questions, no BS, ever. it just works. period. and thats what people want.
for the hardcore people, I still recommend it, for servers, I still recommend it. always.
no matter what you are trying to do, it'll support it, no matter what your hardware, it'll work.
if it doesn't, you did something wrong. I hate people who say "Well I just installed it and it doesn't work" well guess what, it is STILL possible to do "something wrong" even then.
I watched friends do this, and they complain that whatever doesnt work afterwards, and I noticed during install they didnt select those packages... well, guess what? it wont work... duhhhh... and they even claim they selected "everything"... uh, no, I was watching bubba, you missed more than half of it. hello...
if you have a specific use, need a specific package, and specifically DONT choose it during install, of course it wont be there... jeez, get a clue...
I dont know of a better distro, I've been supporting them since way back when, and always will, I pay support, I buy extra stuff, you name it.
right now on the market there aren't many choices...
Debian - forget it.
Fedora - this thing is a joke
SUSE - I hate Yast with a passion
slackware - they ruined it after 7.0
nuff said.
I use Mandrake....9.2 with some cooker stuff added (newer postfix, mailman and a 2.6.6 kernel). Before that, I used 3 different versions of Caldera (3.0, 2.x and 1.3) before they became the evil SCOmpire.
/rant
I used to support Caldera by buying a box set of whichever version it was. I could usually pick it up at my neighborhood Costco for under 30 bucks. It was a good deal for me and it put some money in Caldera's coffers. TANSTAAFL. Everyone was happy.
rant
With Mandrake, I want to do the same thing and I'm continually astounded by HOW FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is...$50USD for the 2 CD set (which gives less than the download) and $90 for the full-featured 8 CD set.
So then I say, well, let me see what it costs to join the Mandrake Club: $66...and you don't seem to get anything other than the ability to download the ISOs earlier than anyone else for that level.
I'm a Mac user. I'm used to paying for software, but this is ridiculous, especially since a distro is current for only ~6 months and support's for 2 years.
Warning: these packages aren't updated anymore, they've been merged into Cooker, which will become 10.1.
The university's admins must hate me for linking my page on /. :-)
If you want a laptop, go to http://www.powernotebooks.com. They sell OS-less laptops and laptops with Mandrake (and Xig's X server) preloaded.
* Actually I take that back.. feel free to reply with what you think is good or not good with slack. There are bad things about Slackware? I wanted to learn linux about a year and half ago. The first distro I'd picked up (the one you heard most about) was Redhat. The install was easy enough and everything was very Windows-like which surprised me not knowing what to expect from this linux animal. Then after about a week my display suddenly went south. I logged in to find there was no gui in my gui.
So after a bit of tooling around and a couple of reinstalls which always resulted in the same problem (fonts, buttons, toolbars all failing to show up) I gave up and tried Mandrake. It was nice and all but still way too much like Redhat and Windows for my liking. Besides that I wasn't learning anything about the infamous command-line everyone's so hyped about.
At that point (about a month in) I ditched linux for a while and went with FreeBSD which worked really great! At the same time I still found a lot of programs that I couldn't use with it so I once again began a search for another distro.
I found Slackware after reading an article about Linux in the workplace wherein the author got a new job and immediately ditched windows for his favorite linux distro, Slackware. Intrigued (ya gotta admit the name is cool) I sought it out and found out (by reading reviews) that it was difficult to install and had a steep learning curve which made it even more appealing to me.
I have to say, Slackware was just as easy (if not easier) to install than any of the previous three OS's and the dreaded "steep learning curve" is really more of a gentle slope. Slack uses not only its own packaging system but also has an RPM installer as well as the ability to convert RPMs to TGZs. As for a gui, you can install Gnome with a minimum of fuss using Dropline Gnome.
With the recent addition of Swaret to keep your distro current, Slackware really has the advantage of being an easy to use, EXTREMELY stable linux distro that is not only functional but also serves as a gentle introduction to the command line.
You know what they say... once you go Slack, you never go back!