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"Buffalo Spammer" Gets 3.5 to 7 Years

jfruhlinger writes "Howard Carmak, aka the 'Buffalo spammer,' has been sentenced to jail time for his spamming activities. Interestingly, the conviction was not for spamming per se, but rather stealing someone's identity, which he then used to launch his spam messages."

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  1. 3.5-7 Seems a little light by KoriaDesevis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    The jail sentence is the maximum allowed under the law, due to Carmack's prior felony conviction for fraud in a federal case involving fake money orders, McCarthy said.

    7 years is the maximum for identity theft? That actually seems a little light. I would think they'd lock him away for 15-20 for something like that. Theft + potentially ruining someone else's credit and/or reputation.

  2. It serves him right.... by millahtime · · Score: 5, Funny

    It serves him right for stealing identities. I am still in counseling for getting that email from my grandma telling me to enlarge my penis.

  3. Good... by hookedup · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The old cop trick, cant get em for what the biggest problem is, get them for what you can.

    Should be this way more often, arrest spammers for using machines they have no proper access to, not for just for spamming.

    1. Re:Good... by greendoggg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, I'm of the opinion that identity theft is a more important issue than spam. Don't get me wrong, I think spam is a big issue, but spam (usually) doesn't mess up a person's life completely, whereas identity theft can really leave someone in a world of hurt. But either way, since this guy was guilty of both, I'm glad to see he got some jail time.

  4. How he got caught. by Valejo · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Meanwhile in Jail by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Meanwhile in Jail, inmates have added him to their "My new Bitch" list. Carmak has complained repeatedly that their unsubscribe feature is both inhumane and doesn't work, which has led to arthritis in his right hand.

  6. One down... by PoisonousPhat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    200+ to go:

    "The Register of Known Spam Operations (ROKSO) database collates information and evidence on known hard-line spam operations that have been terminated by a minimum of 3 consecutive Service Providers for serious spam offenses.

    200 Known Spam Operations responsible for 90% of your spam.

    90% of spam received by Internet users in North America and Europe can be traced via redirects, hosting locations of web sites, domains and aliases, to a hard-core group of around 200 known spam operations, almost all of whom are listed in the ROKSO database. These spam operations consist of an estimated 500-600 professional spammers loosely grouped into gangs ("spam gangs"), the vast majority of whom are operating illegally, and who move from network to network seeking out Internet Service Providers ("ISPs") known for lax enforcing of anti-spam policies."

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  7. Re:Good by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Didn't we just go through this? All this macho GW Bush "Bring it on" wannabe talk isn't going to do anything but get people killed.

    If the death penalty applies to spam, and someone might get caught for spamming, then they may as well just go kill someone while they are at it. Maybe kill the witnesses. It can't increase the severity of the penalty, so why not?

    Part of justice is appropriate punishments. Walking with a swagger and carrying a noose might impress people who failed to graduate high school, but it doesn't make us any safer, or freer.

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  8. Re:shall we start taking in a collection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Serious question: why do Americans think prison rape is amusing? Whenever there's a story about someone or other going to prison there's always a comment to be found making light of this; and it's always modded up.

    Are you people seriously telling me, that a suitable punishment for spamming is being fucked up the arse?

  9. since you asked... by tuxette · · Score: 5, Funny
    Are you people seriously telling me, that a suitable punishment for spamming is being fucked up the arse?

    Why, yes.

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    1. Re:since you asked... by Greedo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I bet he's hoping that his 6'4", 235 lb cell mate didn't get his penis enlarged.

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  10. Re:Sounds to me a little excessive by chromatic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think of it as a deterrent. "Not only are murder, theft, and rape wrong, but if you're caught, you might have to share a cell with a spammer!"

  11. Sentencing suggestion by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Funny

    >7 years is the maximum for identity theft? That actually seems a little light.

    How about seven years and the victims get to pick his cellmate?
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    1. Re:Sentencing suggestion by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > > 7 years is the maximum for identity theft? That actually seems a little light.
      >
      > How about seven years and the victims get to pick his cellmate?

      How about three years... but he has to opt out of every ass-raping.

      Of course, if he gets out in three years and claims that it wasn't rape, his cellmates can claim that he opted in anyways, and just forgot about it.