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HHGTG Screenwriter Interviews Himself

Overly Critical Guy writes "The screenwriter for the upcoming Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy film has interviewed himself. A snippet: 'Who am I? "Not Douglas Adams" is the answer that concerns most people.'"

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  1. Actually.. by MooCows · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. this guy strikes me as a good person for this task.

    And when I told him of my "I'm not worthy" moment, he said "I think you're perfect for it and that attitude will probably help you."

    And he seems to really grasp the bizarre HHGTtG humor :)
    (Let's just hope the rest of the movie will be made by equally promising folks)

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  2. A film ? .. by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being the imaginative , day dreaming type , I've always seen stories rather than read them ...

    Like seeing a sandworm while reading dune or seeing the patronus (made of glittering points of light) from a low angle (only hooves visible) making ripples on the lake as it runs ... Or see Arthur Dent flying around trying to grab his bag with the bottle of retsina ...

    The Harry Potter movie literally destroyed that picture I had in mind, because a movie still cannot give me the "real" feeling the book gave me ..

    But I guess , illusions provided by a book cannot be enjoyed by everyone... some just need a little "CG" help.

    1. Re:A film ? .. by __aatgod8309 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is when instead of 'a little CG help' they instead rely on 'the huge CG crutch'. Lets hope they focus on the original material, and don't end up with $$$ of flashy sfx trying hide the failings of the finished product...

    2. Re:A film ? .. by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sorry, it just really annoys me when you get that stereotypical person in a movie thread complaining about a movie being made, usually in reference to a 'sacred work of fiction'. DON'T WATCH IT AND SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Allow me to elaborate...

      But I guess , illusions provided by a book cannot be enjoyed by everyone... some just need a little "CG" help.

      Some of us like to enjoy the creative visions of others as well.

      Many people get a thrill from watching a well-constructed 2-minute trailer for a good movie, just as some of us like to watch a well-constructed 2-hour "trailer" of a good book.

      It's not the same as reading the book, they are two separate types of enjoyment.

      And sometimes the movie is actually better. E.g., IMO, The Shawshank Redemption. In my book-reading, I don't have the benefit of great actors, the voice over of Morgan Freeman, or the music of Thomas Newman to enhance the story.

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    3. Re:A film ? .. by ctr2sprt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But I guess , illusions provided by a book cannot be enjoyed by everyone... some just need a little "CG" help.
      Don't be such a snobbish elitist. Just because I like the Harry Potter movies doesn't mean I lack an imagination, which is what you're claiming. All it means that I have the ability to enjoy watching someone else's imagination without sacrificing my own. After all, no interpretation is really perfectly correct, even if your name is J.K. Rowling - you make the books your own when you read them.

      The diversity of interpretation is one of the really positive aspects of art, including movies and literature. Shakespeare's works are still hotly debated (among academics in the field, anyway) hundreds of years after his death. So it's good that you can read the books and get a vivid impression of the world. But if you refuse to consider other interpretations, even those which directly contradict your own, you're missing out on half the experience.

      Seriously, try it. You may not like those other viewpoints, but you'll probably find them interesting - and if you get together with a few other Harry Potter (or whatever) fans, you'll probably have a great time talking about them.

    4. Re:A film ? .. by MilenCent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some of us like to enjoy the creative visions of others as well.

      I can understand that. But in our culture, movies carry ten times the cultural weight that books carry. If a book and a movie made from that book are both equivilently popular, relative to the size of their audiences, then the culture will tend to remember the movie to the exclusion of the book.

      This is why, when a movie is made from a book, the book suddenly gets back into print, almost always with cover graphics that match the movie. They even did this with The Lord of the Rings.

      Many people get a thrill from watching a well-constructed 2-minute trailer for a good movie, just as some of us like to watch a well-constructed 2-hour "trailer" of a good book.

      I'm not one of the people who particularly enjoys movie trailers. Many times they give away story secrets, they often miss the whole point of the movie they're promoting, and I get tired of seeing giant CGI letters get set aflame, become lit with the sound of a knife sharpening, have a sun rise behind them, or vibrate towards the viewer in lewd fashion.

      In any case, trailer is not to movie as movie is to book. Not that it's wrong that a movie should inspire anyone to read the work upon which it is based, but that I can't help but think reading a book after the movie must be a different experience than reading the book first.

      But then again, I can imagine there being some books that are so confusing that I imagine that seeing the visual Cliff Notes version could be helpful.

  3. The Radio Shows by TaxSlave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm glad to read that he followed up his script-reading and hiring by going straight to the radio shows. Both the TV shows and the first two books showed amazing genius, primarily because they sprung forth directly from those radio shows.

    In radio, you must build your images in the spoken word with minimal sound effects. You must do it clearly and succinctly. This translated very well to the TV screen, because they didn't throw away the descriptions altogether and replace them with images. They just added TO the descriptions.

    The first two books were very dialogue driven, and dialogue is where Adams' genius really showed through. The other books in the "trilogy" never felt quite the same, and I stronly believe that feeling came from the lack of basis in well-formed radio drama/comedy.

    I can't wait.

  4. Nice attempt at a pre-emptive strike by Tuvai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But I doubt this stunt will be enough to silence the most rabid of followers of Douglas Adams' work, that particular camp will only be content if this movie is never released at all. After all, not even Peter Jackson, with his vision, scope, funding and love of the books could silence the complaints following the rings trilogy.
    He has to realise that with book-to-film adaptations, whether it be Harry Potter or Battle Royale, you can never satisfy the lunatic fringe. In fact, in the end, you can never win, all you can do is please as many people as you can.

    1. Re:Nice attempt at a pre-emptive strike by aheath · · Score: 4, Insightful
      When I was a kid, there were many movies I avoided because I loved the book so much. As an adult, I've come to realize that it's the story that's most important. A movie is just a different way of telling a story than a book is. Book's encourage active imagination. Movies do all the imagining for you. Now I always make it a point to read the book before I see the movie.

      My 11 year old son just discovered HHGG and Douglas Adams. He's read the radio script, read the books, and seen the BBC TV show. Each version is slightly different from the others. I fully expect that he and I will both enjoy the HHGG movie because we will accept it for what it is instead of comparing it to the source material.

    2. Re:Nice attempt at a pre-emptive strike by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who cares about the fringe people anyway?

      If they don't like the movie, I'll read them some Vogon poetry and that'll take care of even the strongest opponent!

      The point is to get DA's incredible stories out to people who have never heard of him or his work and at the same time be as true as possible to the original work.

      Fringe lunatics running around with dual papier mache heads are not the target of the movie.

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  5. American to be the screenwriter for h2g2 .. hmmm by themadcaplaughs · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well, with Doughlas Adams not around, someone of course had to do the screen-writing. I wished all along that the chosen someone be British.

    I am not any of the "ists" .. but then as a neutral observer, I would say let the duck float and and let the fish swim. J D Sallinger is funny no doubt, but then comparing him with G B Shaw would be injustice to both. For the more literally challenged of my friends here, check out the difference in the humour of Blackadder or Monty Phython and Friends or Will and Grace. I don't think Brit and American humour can be mixed. None of them is inferior ( ok that is being neutral to the point of getting irritating, so the confession : I do admire the Brit humour more ). Hoping this guy proves my doubts to be plain paranoia.

  6. execs have the infinte power to $@~$ things up by Random_Goblin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you've read through "the salmon of doubt" you get a sense of just how difficult it's been to get this film made. Adam's was repeatedly told "there's no market for a funny sci-fi film". I don't recall his exact words on the success of "Men In Black", but you can feel the head bashing against a brick wall.

    there is more film goodness here including what I think is a picture of marvin.

    You know what? It just might work, after all Pete Jackson did a damn good job, and everyone thought he would suck.

    Lets just all pray George Lucas doesn't walk near the studio. [shuddering at the thought of Ja-Ja Marvin]

    1. Re:execs have the infinte power to $@~$ things up by TomV · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Looks to me like just the sort of design the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation would come up with for "your plastic pal who's fun to be with". Any Sirius product that doesn't look infinitely tacky in the film will represent a missed opportunity, IMO.

  7. Problem isnt the sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the problem is the HHGG is based on an undercurrent of very British humour, particularly jokes about class, beaurocracy and the like (do Americans really get the references to British Rail etc.?). E.g., Vogons aren't funny because they are grotesque green aliens, they are funny because they are the local council town planning department in space. It is a well known fact that cricket makes no sense to Americans whatsoever. But theres a reason that he didn't write about the "baseball wars". Etc. The zany sci-fi stuff floats along top this. I'm a little concerned its going to end up all the latter and none of the former.

    1. Re:Problem isnt the sci-fi by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
      the problem is the HHGG is based on an undercurrent of very British humour

      Yeah that's probably why the book did so poorly over here in North America.

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    2. Re:Problem isnt the sci-fi by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Incompetent monopolies, stupid governments, and incomprehensible sports are pretty much universal human experiences.

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    3. Re:Problem isnt the sci-fi by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      See, I thought you wouldn't understand....Yanks. You do realise Ford Prefect was a joke at your expense with regard to "getting" British culture don't you? Anyway, moving on...

      I find it amusing that you would assume that I am American, but not nearly as funny as the idea of you explaining a joke to me that we weren't even talking about.

      I'll just leave it with this thought: comedy, even clever comedy, does not have a nationality.

      Now, you just carry on with the classist British curmudgeon bit, and I'll go on not caring. Deal?

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  8. Re:its gonna suck by admbws · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the problem is not with the script writers and producers, but the funders, the film company. You see, script writers tend to have a great sense of humour. However, when a film company sees this, they see this. This means that film companies only feel particularly jolly when it's pushing hundreds of thousands through the turnstiles. They don't care how many people laugh, just how many people cough up.

  9. Re:its gonna suck by Mononoke · · Score: 4, Insightful
    just like every single British film that Americans touch
    Terry Gilliam is an American, and he did ok with the Python movies.
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  10. Re:Douglas Adams by mek2600 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    LOL. Awesome post. I wonder how many people actually caught the reference.

    That could be the best line DNA ever wrote.

  11. Lunatic Fringe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He has to realise that with book-to-film adaptations, whether it be Harry Potter or Battle Royale, you can never satisfy the lunatic fringe.

    The problem is, with something as bizarre as this "trilogy", the lunatic fringe is a rather large percentage of the whole readership...not meant as a troll but you have to admit, these books are strange.

  12. Re:Who is interested in the questions... by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, and that's probably the real one.

    Since Douglas Adams has said he just did this. Picked a number. Source

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  13. Worrying extracts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful



    he was watching CHICKEN RUN (with his sons? I don't know. In my head, he watches it weekly) he thought "hey that writer seemed to create a feature film that worked as a big studio movie while still keeping an existing and uniquely British sensibility.

    Speaking as a Brit, I found Chicken Run hugely disappointing. It was a good idea with poor execution, like it was dumbed down. It felt like a sell out from beginning to end, with much of the quirky and inventive humour of the three Wallace and Gromits completely missing. I thought Nick Park had just struck a bum note in scaling up to feature length, but I guess it was partly this guys fault too. It was laugh free.

    one of those guys who quoted Holy Grail

    There is nothing more nauseating than someone who quotes MP at length, trying to be funny. It's basically the sure sign of someone who just isn't funny at all. Al Gore probably does it at parties.

    (brilliant ideas, too -- truly humbling),

    This whole Adams worshipping strikes the wrong note with me. I mean, the guy was great, but like the rest of us, he had his occassional shit ideas. I've read the early draft of the "Salmon of Doubt". He worked over and over on scripts to bring them up to par. If you're blinded by adoration, and don't have the talent to rewrite, maybe you're just not the right guy. He seems to go from

    "I'm not good enough"->"I'm really excited about the project, but I'm not good enough"->"This is my project, but I'm not good enough"->"I'm just like Adam's in many ways."->"I can rewrite his stuff better."

    Putting "I felt a certain amount of freedom to continue carrying that torch, mostly with the new concepts, characters and plot devices that Douglas had already created" together with "More has been made of the Arthur/Trillian relationship and the Arthur/Trillian/Zaphod triangle. Douglas knew, as I know, that in order to make a feature film bankrolled by an American studio that is to play on the global stage there needs to be a certain amount of attention paid to character, character relationships and emotion." suffuses me with dread. Let's say Douglas experimented with a number of lame ideas to make the film more appealling, such as more love triangles and jealousy. Shouldn't be in the final film, but will be in the process outlined here.

    Hammer and Tongs: the music video specialists. A 3 minute music video direction to a feature film direction? That's a hell of a leap. I'd worry with this project in experienced hands. Jackson analogy doesn't hold here, he cut his teeth on a number of low budget horror flicks like "Bad Taste", and one more mainstream "Heavenly Bodies"(?) before moving onto LotR. Anyone think of even one music video director who has gone on to make a successful full length feature? I can't.

    The tide has receded and left his admission he wrote the script for "Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves!" indelibly impressed on my mind like a hulk of a wrecked ship. Prepare yourselves: HHGTG will be a wreck of a film.

    1. Re:Worrying extracts by macthulhu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mmmmm.... Spike Jonze?

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  14. Can we stop bashing the US by kahei · · Score: 4, Insightful


    There are a lot of posts here claiming that Americans just won't be able to get the subtle British humor of HHGTTG, and pointing to various great Brit comedies to support this. The thing is, when people talk about 'British comedy', they mean the comedy of one particular period, the golden age of really great British comedy from about 1965 - 1985, when Fawlty, Python, and HHGTGG flourished.

    Now, that was indeed a great flowering of the comedian's art, the like of which has not been seen elsewhere. But it's not an eternal immutable aspect of the US & UK population; it's an event that happened to occur in the UK. There's junk UK TV -- in fact, they produce rock bottom TV by the ton -- and there's great US TV.

    So please can we discuss this with reference to appropriate cultural phenomena, sure, but not with reference to this imaginary 'irony gene' that only British people have? It's only encouraging that class of annoying English people who go on and on about Americans not understanding irony like it was the only way they could think of to make themselves feel special.

    Hrm, well, my rant is over.

    I'll get me coat.

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    1. Re:Can we stop bashing the US by sela · · Score: 2, Insightful


      I beg to differ.

      The point isn't whose better. The point is: what's the best way to keep the true spirit of Douglas Adams's books when doing a movie out of it.

      True, not everything americans are doing is bad. I like Seinfeld and the Simpsons and Southpark, and lets not forget that the Coen brother are american as well ... but yet, when I have to choose, still Monty Python, Douglas Adams and the Black Adder would win (for me), hands-down over the best american show you can think of.

      And one more thing: as you can easilly tell from my poor grammar, I'm not english speaker myself, which means I'm neither British nor American.

    2. Re:Can we stop bashing the US by nathanh · · Score: 5, Insightful
      There are a lot of posts here claiming that Americans just won't be able to get the subtle British humor of HHGTTG, and pointing to various great Brit comedies to support this. The thing is, when people talk about 'British comedy', they mean the comedy of one particular period, the golden age of really great British comedy from about 1965 - 1985, when Fawlty, Python, and HHGTGG flourished.

      Umm... Black Adder, Red Dwarf, Men Behaving Badly. The golden age never ended. The Brits keep churning out brilliant comedy.

      The only good comedy sitcom to ever come out of America was Frasier.

    3. Re:Can we stop bashing the US by Cryogenes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And don't forget 'Yes, Minister', a true gem of british comedy the like of which patriotism-blinded America could never do.

      But I will admit there is one american comedy series I really did appreciate for its often-times absurd humour - Ally McBeal.

  15. Re:Douglas Adams by cmeans · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You're not sane if you don't question yourself every-once-in-a-while.

  16. Re:One thing not to loose: subtlety by Scarblac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think he gets that, actually. Read the part where the directors ask him to "clarify" the infinite improbability drive concept:

    Each time we tried to clarify the I.I.D, we'd look through the script and say, "It's in there, isn't it?" By lunch, we moved from coffee to wine and the I.I.D. concept was gaining clarity. By late afternoon when we moved from wine to more wine, we had deduced that we were, in fact, brilliant and that the script was flawless. So we decided to go with the "less is more" theory and left the script alone. And then we had more wine.

    Less is more. He gets it.

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  17. Chicken Run == Hollywood formula by acb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The character development arcs in Chicken Run were done to Hollywood formula (i.e., the Mel Gibson character's journey of self-discovery). It could well have been plotted using the screenwriting software commonly used in Hollywood (and probably was).

    The Wallace & Gromit films, in contrast, have a charming naivete about them. The characters aren't instances of a Hollywood-developed psychological model, embodying drives and motivations and moving along like cogs in a well-oiled machine, but just characters, gleefully violating the rules. To a Hollywood studio executive, this would be crude, sloppy characterization (and if Hollywood money was involved, it would be sent to a script doctor to fix it before it ever got to filming); yet it works, and seems to have more soul than the products of Hollywood.

  18. Re:a$!#&#@ by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dude, the "*#&!" crap in his interview wasn't about self-censoring. It was humor. Look into it.

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  19. Re:One thing not to loose: subtlety by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like to know where the subtlety is in the Vogons, and in most of the other Adams villains who are evil simply because they exist. Or in any of the passages where Adams seems to be saying, "Look! Look at the funny horrors that have happened due to modern hypocritical beaurocracy!" I find that this kind of subtlety hits "like a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick."

    If anything separates British from American films, it's not so much the direction of the plot as it is devotion to the plot. In most American films, you see the plot, you grab on to it, and it is the sole driving force for everything the characters do. Wheras in most British films, plot is more of an afterthought to explain why the characters are doing anything in the first place. The plot is there to eventually tie the next segment in with this one. It can be very disjointed...try following the plot through an episode of the Young Ones, you'll see what I mean.

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